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November 15, 2021, 03:18:28 PM |
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy. The problem with betting here is we don't know if this is a pre-arranged fight and they already know who's gonna win even before the fight as it is only exhibition fight. It may even ends up as draw depending on the mood of the judges. So for me, don't bet high because this is not a serious one, you may likely lose your bet for nothing. This is why we shouldn't bet on exhibition fight since we don't know on how they will end up or how they fight in the ring and I don't expect match between this match up so its better to watch without betting since this is the safest thing we need to do. But if someone want to bet out of thrill then you might be right for betting only with small amount so that if we lose on maybe lousy game we will not get hurt or be stressed about the result. the risk is too big when betting in a match like this because there could be another game behind this match. but it would be great to do that when you have a guarantee there if it is true that this match has a scenario game in it. but on the other hand I think this is just a game for fun and doesn't put us at stake there. this will be high risk when done because statistics and strength do not guarantee victory here
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November 15, 2021, 05:50:20 PM |
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy. The problem with betting here is we don't know if this is a pre-arranged fight and they already know who's gonna win even before the fight as it is only exhibition fight. It may even ends up as draw depending on the mood of the judges. So for me, don't bet high because this is not a serious one, you may likely lose your bet for nothing. This is why we shouldn't bet on exhibition fight since we don't know on how they will end up or how they fight in the ring and I don't expect match between this match up so its better to watch without betting since this is the safest thing we need to do. But if someone want to bet out of thrill then you might be right for betting only with small amount so that if we lose on maybe lousy game we will not get hurt or be stressed about the result. the risk is too big when betting in a match like this because there could be another game behind this match. but it would be great to do that when you have a guarantee there if it is true that this match has a scenario game in it. but on the other hand I think this is just a game for fun and doesn't put us at stake there. this will be high risk when done because statistics and strength do not guarantee victory here For exhibition matches then I do simply skip out on making out big bets and if ever there are some odds been given and I do find something interesting then I do only put up on small amounts and its true that statistics and experience or something in regard with that doesn't really work most of the time when it comes to exhibition match because you don't know on whats written behind the script.lol You aren't that blind nor not that dumb on not to recognize on whose gonna win right? On just seeing those names and do knows the background then you could totally tell on whose does have the edge.
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November 15, 2021, 06:01:03 PM |
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Doubts about Jake Paul's abilities will be cleared at last. He will finally fight a real boxer! Unfortunately, it's hard for me to say which one will win, because I have doubts about the form of Tommy Fury. If he's okay and he's prepared well, then he should have beaten Jake Paul without a hitch.
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November 15, 2021, 09:21:58 PM |
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Doubts about Jake Paul's abilities will be cleared at last. He will finally fight a real boxer! Unfortunately, it's hard for me to say which one will win, because I have doubts about the form of Tommy Fury. If he's okay and he's prepared well, then he should have beaten Jake Paul without a hitch.
What would you doubt about Tommy Fury? This guy could fight and definitely could win this fight. Bookies are not fool to make Fury the favorite to win this fight and that's how fans see this fight as well. here are the odds Paul vs. Fury betting odds Jake Paul: +165 Tommy Fury: -185 Draw: +1400 source : https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/jake-paul-tommy-fury-fight-date-time-ppv-price-boxing/1jy5i5c52ikzm1obc4gxhyvr8m
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November 15, 2021, 09:53:03 PM |
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But as his legendary bother says: "No disrespect to Jake Paul, but like I said to Tommy, if he can’t knock Jake Paul out, fly to a foreign country and stay there because he ain’t coming home.” https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-if-tommy-ko-jake-paul-he-coming-home--161893But we all know that this is not a real fight, and it could be set up that there will be no knock down clause, similar to other high profile exhibitions games that we have seen so far. Probably his Tyson just wanted to create more hype on his brother's fight so that it can get a good revenue in PPV. That is certainly a possibility, however I would not be surprised if he was being serious as well, after all we know that Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight at the moment, this means that he obviously takes boxing seriously even if that does not seem to be the case when he is in front of a camera. With this in mind then it is not difficult to imagine Tyson Fury demanding that his brother wins by KO, because if he cannot KO an amateur boxer then what hope he has against the professionals that are way better than Jake Paul?
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November 16, 2021, 05:33:46 AM |
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But as his legendary bother says: "No disrespect to Jake Paul, but like I said to Tommy, if he can’t knock Jake Paul out, fly to a foreign country and stay there because he ain’t coming home.” https://www.boxingscene.com/tyson-fury-if-tommy-ko-jake-paul-he-coming-home--161893But we all know that this is not a real fight, and it could be set up that there will be no knock down clause, similar to other high profile exhibitions games that we have seen so far. Probably his Tyson just wanted to create more hype on his brother's fight so that it can get a good revenue in PPV. That is certainly a possibility, however I would not be surprised if he was being serious as well, after all we know that Tyson Fury is the best heavyweight at the moment, this means that he obviously takes boxing seriously even if that does not seem to be the case when he is in front of a camera. With this in mind then it is not difficult to imagine Tyson Fury demanding that his brother wins by KO, because if he cannot KO an amateur boxer then what hope he has against the professionals that are way better than Jake Paul? Yup, Tyson should be able to knockout Jake Paul to advance to a much higher league where professionals is waiting to take and taste some amateur fighters. No offense, I mean, Jake Paul is also a tough fighter with a clean record but sadly he won't get this fight in his favor. Tyson is much more experienced than him and fought fighters with more experience than him, Jake's recent fights are all debut.
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November 16, 2021, 05:44:59 AM |
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It seems most of the reply here are all in favor Tommy forgetting that in this kind fight everyone could be a winner as I strongly believe that Jake Paul should not be underrated as he has the power and ability to change the odd in his favor during the fight. As for me I will bet in favor Jake Paul to take the lead come December 18th.
That’s ok to go against the odds since anything can happen and this one can also be a fixed match so you can have a good chance to win on betting with Jake. Though, personally I always bet with the crowd and looking at the comments here Fury are more favorite here with a great reason why, so it will be more safe for me to place a bet with Tommy. Well it's your choice @TheEconomists and we respect yours but you should also watch both of their recents fights to analyze it better, don't just go look at their records becausec your boy Jake Paul's recent matches was a 4 debuts while his opponent Tommy Fury takes on average fighter whom exceeds his records. Just saying though but I respect your decision, for now I'm with @Johnyz because we're the same, we prefer to bet among the crowd favorites because it's less risky.
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November 16, 2021, 12:22:55 PM |
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Well it's your choice @TheEconomists and we respect yours but you should also watch both of their recents fights to analyze it better, don't just go look at their records becausec your boy Jake Paul's recent matches was a 4 debuts while his opponent Tommy Fury takes on average fighter whom exceeds his records. Just saying though but I respect your decision, for now I'm with @Johnyz because we're the same, we prefer to bet among the crowd favorites because it's less risky.
Have you looked on Tommy Fury record yourself? Almost every his opponent was crap. Completely crap. What can you expect from an opponent, who has 26 losses and 2 draws in 28 fight ? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) All of his opponents looked like amateur or guys who only did sparring in gyms, than professional boxers. 2 out of 4 Jake Paul opponents, who you call a debutants, had a long fighting career in MMA. You can parry it with boxing is different from MMA, but they do train striking with boxing coaches. So the difference is not an abyss.
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November 16, 2021, 04:51:49 PM |
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Doubts about Jake Paul's abilities will be cleared at last. He will finally fight a real boxer! Unfortunately, it's hard for me to say which one will win, because I have doubts about the form of Tommy Fury. If he's okay and he's prepared well, then he should have beaten Jake Paul without a hitch.
What would you doubt about Tommy Fury? This guy could fight and definitely could win this fight. From what I've seen I'd say they're actually quite evenly matched, though I do think I favour Tommy. Jake has continually impressed and surprised me and Tommy has only been average and has a padded record fighting mostly bums so I think this fight is going to be a big test for both. The pressure is going to be on Tommy though as Jake isn't expected to win and Fury's family has practically said they'd disown him, or at the very least his boxing career would be over and I think I agree with them there. Not much point continuing if you can't even beat a YouTuber and that will follow him around for life. I actually think anything other than Jake getting KOd is going to be an L for Tommy. If it goes the distance then that's going to be an embarrassment for Tommy. If Jake even gives him a good fight then it won't look good for him. Regardless, I think it's a win-win for Paul regardless of what happens. If he loses then he'll just say well of course I wasn't meant to win; I'm fighting an undefeated professional boxer and a member of the renowned Fury family and go on to fight whoever will take him. If it's a draw then that's still a massive embarrassment for Fury. If Jake wins though then his stock will go up massively and don't be surprised if he ends up fighting someone huge like McGregor or Mayweather next. I can see McGregor actually clamouring for that fight the way his career is going. Tommy really needs to win this comfortably if he wants people to take him seriously and just be the little bro of Tyson.
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I'd like to favour Tommy I really would, but he has looked subpar one a number of his fights, and as I mentioned before the hype around him is because of his name, rather than what hes done in the ring. Though, Tommy's previous performances while they may have been disappointing, they were still against professional boxers, and Paul hasn't proven himself publicly against another boxer yet. MMA, and boxing is completely different, yeah boxing is somewhat incorporated in MMA, but nine out of 10 fights some sort of grappling is used, so I'm still questioning how well Jake would do against a real professional boxer. Fury. If Jake wins though then his stock will go up massively and don't be surprised if he ends up fighting someone huge like McGregor or Mayweather next. I can see McGregor actually clamouring for that fight the way his career is going. Tommy really needs to win this comfortably if he wants people to take him seriously and just be the little bro of Tyson.
I don't want to see the Conor fight, that would be just a circus. A Youtuber who loves trolling, and a Conor who has completely deviated from his quick wits, and turned more hostile. I don't think I'd even find the pre fight drama entertaining. Although, with the fans turning on Conor recently, mainly his own doing I must say, knocking out Jake Paul might be a redeeming factor for him.
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I'd like to favour Tommy I really would, but he has looked subpar one a number of his fights, and as I mentioned before the hype around him is because of his name, rather than what hes done in the ring. Though, Tommy's previous performances while they may have been disappointing, they were still against professional boxers, and Paul hasn't proven himself publicly against another boxer yet. MMA, and boxing is completely different, yeah boxing is somewhat incorporated in MMA, but nine out of 10 fights some sort of grappling is used, so I'm still questioning how well Jake would do against a real professional boxer. He did very well against Woodley and whilst obviously he wasn't a pro boxer Woodley isn't a bad one and has several KOs from punches. I think we could probably ask would Tommy even be a pro boxer if it wasn't for his family connections? I'm not sure if he would as even a mediocre fighter would probably be signed on the Fury name alone. It's like how the children of pro footballers also get shoe-horned in to teams. Some of them certainly deserve it but others probably would have never even made it to an academy if it wasn't for their father's connections. Tommy really needs to win this fight as if he doesn't he's always just going to be the little bro of Tyson riding on his coattails not to mention a laughing stock. Fury. If Jake wins though then his stock will go up massively and don't be surprised if he ends up fighting someone huge like McGregor or Mayweather next. I can see McGregor actually clamouring for that fight the way his career is going. Tommy really needs to win this comfortably if he wants people to take him seriously and just be the little bro of Tyson.
I don't want to see the Conor fight, that would be just a circus. A Youtuber who loves trolling, and a Conor who has completely deviated from his quick wits, and turned more hostile. I don't think I'd even find the pre fight drama entertaining. Although, with the fans turning on Conor recently, mainly his own doing I must say, knocking out Jake Paul might be a redeeming factor for him. It would be a circus but I'm sure they'd both make it one worth watching. I wonder if the sort of money is there for McGregor. I'm sure it's a big pay day for Tommy and Jake but they're still not on the same level as Connor or the Mayweather money. Then again, I'm sure Jake would fight McGregor for even 10% of the purse so I guess it could happen. We'll have to see what Connor's next moves are. His stock is going to continue to decline the longer he's out of the ring and even more so if he keeps losing.
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Why would these two guys actually fight ? Ok, it is clear that Tommy is here for money. Jake Paul sells lots of PPV, he know how to promote and has an army of teenagers to follow every step he make. But what Jake Paul wins from that fight ? Except money. Is Tommy Fury a huge star ? No. Is he really famous? Maybe he is famous to somebody, but for me he is an average fighter and not a really huge celebrity. Jake hopes that with this fight he will hype somehow on Tyson Fury name? Tyson could just ignore that fight, skip attending fighting event, ignore in social media.
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Why would these two guys actually fight ? Ok, it is clear that Tommy is here for money. Jake Paul sells lots of PPV, he know how to promote and has an army of teenagers to follow every step he make. But what Jake Paul wins from that fight ? Except money. Is Tommy Fury a huge star ? No. Is he really famous? Maybe he is famous to somebody, but for me he is an average fighter and not a really huge celebrity. Jake hopes that with this fight he will hype somehow on Tyson Fury name? Tyson could just ignore that fight, skip attending fighting event, ignore in social media.
Why does any boxer fight? Money. Tommy isn't really a huge star but he's the younger brother of one of the biggest and one of the best heavyweight boxers in the world so there's certainly a draw there. Both have quite big social media followings but Tommy is more of an up-and-commer in boxing terms and is more of a realty TV star over here in the UK but he's trying to break away from that. It's going to be both their biggest paydays so it makes sense to both of them. In fact, Tommy's last fight on the undercard of the Jake Paul fight was his biggest payday and Paul even forgoed some of his purse so the fighters on the undercard got more which was actually a respectable thing to do. Tommy thinks it's going to be easy money for him and it should be, but the pressure is certainly on him. Like I said above, I think it's going to be win-win for Jake Paul whatever the outcome just as long as he doesn't get knocked out in the first couple of rounds.
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November 17, 2021, 10:59:29 PM |
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the risk is too big when betting in a match like this because there could be another game behind this match. but it would be great to do that when you have a guarantee there if it is true that this match has a scenario game in it.
but on the other hand I think this is just a game for fun and doesn't put us at stake there. this will be high risk when done because statistics and strength do not guarantee victory here
For exhibition matches then I do simply skip out on making out big bets and if ever there are some odds been given and I do find something interesting then I do only put up on small amounts and its true that statistics and experience or something in regard with that doesn't really work most of the time when it comes to exhibition match because you don't know on whats written behind the script.lol You aren't that blind nor not that dumb on not to recognize on whose gonna win right? On just seeing those names and do knows the background then you could totally tell on whose does have the edge. what you say is true and indeed we can see the match from the background and statistics in boxing. but in some cases that have happened at exhibitions, there are some that already have a scenario or do have their own weird rules. For example, in the match logan against maywather some time ago in the exhibition. they do not have a winner but on the other hand there are rules that are really weird there. when you see an exhibition match, everything is possible even if the one who competes is the world champion against a fake fighter
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He did very well against Woodley and whilst obviously he wasn't a pro boxer Woodley isn't a bad one and has several KOs from punches. I think we could probably ask would Tommy even be a pro boxer if it wasn't for his family connections? I'm not sure if he would as even a mediocre fighter would probably be signed on the Fury name alone. It's like how the children of pro footballers also get shoe-horned in to teams. Some of them certainly deserve it but others probably would have never even made it to an academy if it wasn't for their father's connections. Tommy really needs to win this fight as if he doesn't he's always just going to be the little bro of Tyson riding on his coattails not to mention a laughing stock. I'll definitely agree with that, he did decent against Woodley. I mean I was hoping Woodley would've got the job done, but I was met with the same frustration as watching him in the UFC. Although, there was definitely a point in that boxing fight which was a little weird, he definitely caught Jake, and Jake fell onto the ropes which should technically be a knock down. Jake looked a little dazed at that point too, but did recover fairly well. It would be a circus but I'm sure they'd both make it one worth watching. I wonder if the sort of money is there for McGregor. I'm sure it's a big pay day for Tommy and Jake but they're still not on the same level as Connor or the Mayweather money. Then again, I'm sure Jake would fight McGregor for even 10% of the purse so I guess it could happen. We'll have to see what Connor's next moves are. His stock is going to continue to decline the longer he's out of the ring and even more so if he keeps losing.
Yeah, I say it'll be a circus, but I guess that's one of the draws of boxing these days. The era is definitely changing, and boxing is becoming more entertainment outside the ring, than inside. Maybe, that is unfair, but I've definitely started to not watch as much boxing as I used too, though I'm probably an outlier, and this is partly because of MMA replacing it. Yeah, if your Jake you fight Mcgregor whatever he offers. Jake Paul walks out of that fight with sponsorships, and more exposure than he could ever ask for. He doesn't necessarily need the money from the fight.
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November 18, 2021, 10:15:28 AM |
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He did very well against Woodley and whilst obviously he wasn't a pro boxer Woodley isn't a bad one and has several KOs from punches. I think we could probably ask would Tommy even be a pro boxer if it wasn't for his family connections? I'm not sure if he would as even a mediocre fighter would probably be signed on the Fury name alone. It's like how the children of pro footballers also get shoe-horned in to teams. Some of them certainly deserve it but others probably would have never even made it to an academy if it wasn't for their father's connections. Tommy really needs to win this fight as if he doesn't he's always just going to be the little bro of Tyson riding on his coattails not to mention a laughing stock. I'll definitely agree with that, he did decent against Woodley. I mean I was hoping Woodley would've got the job done, but I was met with the same frustration as watching him in the UFC. Although, there was definitely a point in that boxing fight which was a little weird, he definitely caught Jake, and Jake fell onto the ropes which should technically be a knock down. Jake looked a little dazed at that point too, but did recover fairly well. I thought Woodley would KO him so I was actually very surprised with Jake's performance as Woodly isn't a pushover and that's what makes me think he's got at least a chance against Fury, or at the very least Fury shouldn't go into this thinking he's going to be an easy match. The fact that I think anything can happen in this fight is what makes it enticing for me, that and if Fury loses how are his family going to react? I mean, I don't think they will literally disown him but they'll struggle to get behind him in future fights. Tyson is apparently going to be in his corner for the fight so that adds an extra dimension too. It would be a circus but I'm sure they'd both make it one worth watching. I wonder if the sort of money is there for McGregor. I'm sure it's a big pay day for Tommy and Jake but they're still not on the same level as Connor or the Mayweather money. Then again, I'm sure Jake would fight McGregor for even 10% of the purse so I guess it could happen. We'll have to see what Connor's next moves are. His stock is going to continue to decline the longer he's out of the ring and even more so if he keeps losing.
Yeah, I say it'll be a circus, but I guess that's one of the draws of boxing these days. The era is definitely changing, and boxing is becoming more entertainment outside the ring, than inside. Maybe, that is unfair, but I've definitely started to not watch as much boxing as I used too, though I'm probably an outlier, and this is partly because of MMA replacing it. Yeah, if your Jake you fight Mcgregor whatever he offers. Jake Paul walks out of that fight with sponsorships, and more exposure than he could ever ask for. He doesn't necessarily need the money from the fight. Yeah. Jake is either going to need a win or at the very least give a very good performance if he wants to move up to the big names next. If he gets embarrassed I doubt many people will care who he fights next. If Jake does win this though I'm sure his next fight would be someone huge as there'll be a market for it and I think Jake would be all too eager to take a big fight like McGregor/Mayweather even though he knows he'll probably lose because he knows once he does his stock will drop like a rock. Regardless of who you are there's always something alluring about being 'undefeated' even though he's only got a few fights under his belt people will either want to see you lose that status or keep it going.
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November 18, 2021, 07:40:52 PM |
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Like I said above, I think it's going to be win-win for Jake Paul whatever the outcome just as long as he doesn't get knocked out in the first couple of rounds.
Cant disagree. What ever Jake do, people would "eat it". He can just poop and people would buy PPV with that. But I would prefer if Jake would fight either another clown (close to boxing guy) or a keep on trolling UFC by beating their former fighters. Btw, Shaquille O'Neal does boxing ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Or Jake Paul should have fought Bryce Hall, making it new Youtube vs Tik Tok chapter.
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November 18, 2021, 09:12:14 PM |
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Like I said above, I think it's going to be win-win for Jake Paul whatever the outcome just as long as he doesn't get knocked out in the first couple of rounds.
Cant disagree. What ever Jake do, people would "eat it". He can just poop and people would buy PPV with that. But I would prefer if Jake would fight either another clown (close to boxing guy) or a keep on trolling UFC by beating their former fighters. Btw, Shaquille O'Neal does boxing ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Or Jake Paul should have fought Bryce Hall, making it new Youtube vs Tik Tok chapter. This is the first time he's squaring up against a real boxer who isn't retired. Honestly, this is the make or break moment for Jake Paul. Either he wins and proves that he can compete at a high level professionally in the boxing ring, or he loses to the younger brother of a prize fighter and everyone can say that this gimmick is behind us. Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins. It would be like if Justin Bieber decided he wanted to play in the NBA and then start breaking people's ankles on the court. You might pause for a minute and wonder if those pros are really as good as we're led to believe... That's basically how I'm viewing this Paul brothers entry into boxing.
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Well, it seems Paul's brother has an upcoming fight. I did not know them technically who will gonna win but in Mike Tyson and Logan Paul, I saw odds are in favor of Mike Tyson and now this fight between Tommy and Jake Paul it seems the odds are in favor of Tommy. But yeah --let see how this fight will go on and I like Paul's brother with this upcoming fight, I know they are very aggressive fighters too that could be there is a chance to knock out their opponent. Let us see how Tommy proves his promise to end Jake Paul's career in boxing.
Do you remember these paul brothers who went against those black brothers (i can't remember their names and don't mean to be offensive) Ever since then it has become a show for streamers and YouTubers to fight and their fans placing bets on them, it really is "Raise your value in the market and let the fans do all the work"
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November 18, 2021, 10:55:35 PM |
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Well, it seems Paul's brother has an upcoming fight. I did not know them technically who will gonna win but in Mike Tyson and Logan Paul, I saw odds are in favor of Mike Tyson and now this fight between Tommy and Jake Paul it seems the odds are in favor of Tommy. But yeah --let see how this fight will go on and I like Paul's brother with this upcoming fight, I know they are very aggressive fighters too that could be there is a chance to knock out their opponent. Let us see how Tommy proves his promise to end Jake Paul's career in boxing.
Do you remember these paul brothers who went against those black brothers (i can't remember their names and don't mean to be offensive) Ever since then it has become a show for streamers and YouTubers to fight and their fans placing bets on them, it really is "Raise your value in the market and let the fans do all the work" As long there's some support then for sure they would able to progress on and able to make things happen since there would be some sort of demand which is the primary thing needed and able to make things happen because they do able to get some support which is really true on the line that fans would do the rest. And organizers would really take advantage on that stuff since they do know that they could able to benefit out
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