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I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example.
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I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example. Money is really the main purpose why boxers would risk their life or their health. We can't blame it on the organizers of the exhibition fight as they are also running their business, it's just that they are so smart in promoting their fight and the fans are attracted with it. Without the fans, exhibition fights will not succeed, so the real fights should also try to improve their marketing so they'll not left behind in the competition, and accept that exhibition fights are already a norm in the sport now.
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I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example. Money is really the main purpose why boxers would risk their life or their health. We can't blame it on the organizers of the exhibition fight as they are also running their business, it's just that they are so smart in promoting their fight and the fans are attracted with it. Without the fans, exhibition fights will not succeed, so the real fights should also try to improve their marketing so they'll not left behind in the competition, and accept that exhibition fights are already a norm in the sport now. yups it is the fans that makes exhibition matches succeed because typical gamblers won't put their funds inside matches that can be manipulated . but hope that this fight will end up with no DRAW decisions , i am scared more of the outcomes since some previous matches in exhibitions ended up Draw.
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November 19, 2021, 11:26:42 AM |
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I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example. Money is really the main purpose why boxers would risk their life or their health. We can't blame it on the organizers of the exhibition fight as they are also running their business, it's just that they are so smart in promoting their fight and the fans are attracted with it. Without the fans, exhibition fights will not succeed, so the real fights should also try to improve their marketing so they'll not left behind in the competition, and accept that exhibition fights are already a norm in the sport now. yups it is the fans that makes exhibition matches succeed because typical gamblers won't put their funds inside matches that can be manipulated . but hope that this fight will end up with no DRAW decisions , i am scared more of the outcomes since some previous matches in exhibitions ended up Draw. There's nothing to be afraid of because if you are a bettor, you can choose to bet on the "DRAW" and most likely the odds are high. Actually, the draw bet makes sense because Jake Paul is a superstar in this exhibition matches, so if Fury would not be able to convince the judges in this fight, Jake Paul will remain undefeated as a draw is likely be the verdict.
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there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-might-just-been-22207992
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there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-might-just-been-22207992Good for Jake Paul because he is currently the underdog now in betting lines, but still I would bet on Fury and I just hope that the odds will swing in favor of Jake Paul so I don't have to take the Fury as the favorite.
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there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs.
Makes sense, probably worth putting a punt on Jake just because I haven't got absolute confidence in Tommy on the best days which have been few, and far between recently. As for the weight minor difference there for Tommy, I don't think he'll struggle at that weight, after all both men are probably walking around much heavier than that, so higher limit while still being only a minor difference should benefit the cut rather than hinder performance on the night.
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I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example. The fact is MMA fighters gets paid more when you are starting, in boxing the lower card fighters just get around thousand bucks and no one is talking about that but the main event fighters gets the majority of the pay day. Even in MMA if you are headlining the card and if you are able to attract fans you will be earning millions. Conor McGregor started the trend and every MMA fighter would be thankful to open up their eyes on how big they can earn. Jake and Logan Paul is in the same position as they are earning in millions even during their first while some of the established boxers would take years and still they are not able to make the amount of money these two novices make.
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Money is really the main purpose why boxers would risk their life or their health..
Every professional sport is about risking life. But they dont get equially paid, despite their sports are diffrently exhiting. Btw, tickets for this clown fight are from 35$, for watching from Mars and 7,500$ for a first row. Cant find PPV price. Anyone knows any fighter from their card? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jake_Paul_vs._Tommy_FuryIs this event is going to be totally boring or there is chance to see some solid boxing that evening?
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Money is really the main purpose why boxers would risk their life or their health..
Every professional sport is about risking life. But they dont get equially paid, despite their sports are diffrently exhiting. They will not sign the contract if they think its not fair in the first place so technically both boxer know the risk and they choose to fight for money and for their own pride. Fury is a good boxer too while Jake Paul is just a new one creating name on boxing field and it will be in favor to him considering his weight. If Fury is not ok with this, he should not accept the contract in the first place.
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What? 3 lbp? That is not a huge advantage. UFC fighters often cut 10-25lbp nefore thei fight. They guy has to cut 3lbp - he just need to skip 1 day of eating and do a good poop.
what the hell are you talking about? if you read the post or the article you'll realize that 192lbs that I mentioned in the post is the catchweight that has been set for the fight. the 189lbs I mentioned is the heaviest weight class Tommy fury fought in. Tommy fury's current weight class according to google is light heavyweight(178lbs). Tommy fury would have to gain 14lbs to reach the minimum weight for the fight. it may look small but that additional 6kg in weight could have a lot of effect on the way he fights. while jake paul(according to the article) has fought on a similar weight in his previous fights which is an advantage for him. anyway, I am sure why I am making an effort to explain things. I don't even really care about the fight.
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Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins. It would be like if Justin Bieber decided he wanted to play in the NBA and then start breaking people's ankles on the court. You might pause for a minute and wonder if those pros are really as good as we're led to believe... That's basically how I'm viewing this Paul brothers entry into boxing.
I prefer to think of them in the same way I think of the Harlem Globetrotters, it is a team that no one takes seriously as we know they are doing their act for entertainment purposes but this in no way diminishes basketball or the NBA. Professional boxing is still going to be a thing and we are going to enjoy the high level boxing we have always enjoyed, the difference will be that now we will have some exhibition fights to go along with it which are meant not to showcase the best the sport can offer but it will be just a form of entertainment for the public.
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Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins. It would be like if Justin Bieber decided he wanted to play in the NBA and then start breaking people's ankles on the court. You might pause for a minute and wonder if those pros are really as good as we're led to believe... That's basically how I'm viewing this Paul brothers entry into boxing.
I prefer to think of them in the same way I think of the Harlem Globetrotters, it is a team that no one takes seriously as we know they are doing their act for entertainment purposes but this in no way diminishes basketball or the NBA. Professional boxing is still going to be a thing and we are going to enjoy the high level boxing we have always enjoyed, the difference will be that now we will have some exhibition fights to go along with it which are meant not to showcase the best the sport can offer but it will be just a form of entertainment for the public. Change of career has been the trend especially with boxing, we’ve seen many are winning on the boxing ring so technically its happening and we can’t stop it even if we want it since those guys are into contracts and they want money so bad so they’ll enter into a new field and try to win. With the Paul brothers, they came for a money that’s a clear one to me and if they want to take this seriously, let’s see them on a more professional ring.
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Another match for another hype, it seems that everyone is sharing sentiment about watching Jake Paul to have his KO scene in the match made by Tommy Fury. Going with the crowd is always the best for one to successful in gambling though some time it may not work out that way at some point. Though no one can be optimistic about who will win the fight at the end of the day. Stake to your Tommy(crowds) and let see the outcome at the end of the day.
Well, there's already optimism that you can see on this thread on who's going to be the dictator on this match and who's going to be knocked out. Individual opening or support here is the forum has no influence what so ever of what the outcome of the fight will be my friend and that has never happened in the history of this kind of fight and it will not happen this time. Dont know on what they do end up that kind of consideration on where they do really believe that this forum would have some influence in regardless on that fight outcome? Dont know on what theyve thinking yet everything would really vary on the script that they are following on and knowing exhibition fights is for pure entertainment then i dont really care on what would be the outcome.
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This is the first time he's squaring up against a real boxer who isn't retired. Honestly, this is the make or break moment for Jake Paul. Either he wins and proves that he can compete at a high level professionally in the boxing ring, or he loses to the younger brother of a prize fighter and everyone can say that this gimmick is behind us. Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I don't think Jake is actually going to go far in boxing, but there's hope in a lot of peoples mind that Tommy could go far, although I'm not one of those people. I think Tommy losing here hurts him a lot more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul is still relevant even if he loses, he'll pick up a few more celebrity past it fighters, and collect the money. However, if Tommy loses that's his career probably over. I think most people are praying that the circus ends at this point, but as I've been quite vocal about; I really don't have a lot of confidence in Tommy doing the job, and I'm afraid these types of match ups, and the hyping up of Jake Paul will continue long after this fight.
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there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-might-just-been-22207992I think Jake will need all the advantages he can get. I'm all for levelling the playing field a bit to make the fight more interesting. there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs.
Makes sense, probably worth putting a punt on Jake just because I haven't got absolute confidence in Tommy on the best days which have been few, and far between recently. As for the weight minor difference there for Tommy, I don't think he'll struggle at that weight, after all both men are probably walking around much heavier than that, so higher limit while still being only a minor difference should benefit the cut rather than hinder performance on the night. Might be worth a shot as I think he could win this, but at the odds I'm seeing it wouldn't be worth it for me. I usually don't take any bets under 4/1. I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I am more scared how they influence on professional athletes. For example, I am a MMA fan. After such boxing exhibition fights, many ufc fighters started to ask for a greater pay cheque for their fights. They refuse to fight if they wont be paid hundred thounsands, while previously a solid fighter get 20-50k for the fight. Instead if dreaming of becoming a champ, they dream to fight this clowns. One fight against a clown brings them same money they would earn in a couple of years. If the UFC management agrees to pay their fighters more, that would mean they would have to find that money somewhere? Where can they be found? In a greater ticket and ppv price for example. UFC does kinda stiff their athletes in multiple ways though. Most of them aren't paid much unless you're one of the big names and as the UFC is practically a monopoly they can do what they want regarding pay. They also have blanket deals with sponsors so all UFC fighters have to wear Venum clothing with the UFC sponsors on them like crypto.com and that stops athletes negotiating their own individual deals and it's those sorts of sponsorships that usually draw in the most money for fighters. This is the first time he's squaring up against a real boxer who isn't retired. Honestly, this is the make or break moment for Jake Paul. Either he wins and proves that he can compete at a high level professionally in the boxing ring, or he loses to the younger brother of a prize fighter and everyone can say that this gimmick is behind us. Personally, I'm a bit scared for the sport of boxing if he wins.
I don't think Jake is actually going to go far in boxing, but there's hope in a lot of peoples mind that Tommy could go far, although I'm not one of those people. I think Tommy losing here hurts him a lot more than Jake Paul. Jake Paul is still relevant even if he loses, he'll pick up a few more celebrity past it fighters, and collect the money. However, if Tommy loses that's his career probably over. I think most people are praying that the circus ends at this point, but as I've been quite vocal about; I really don't have a lot of confidence in Tommy doing the job, and I'm afraid these types of match ups, and the hyping up of Jake Paul will continue long after this fight. I don't think Jake has his sights set on attaining world titles. He'll just keep collecting those huge bags as long as he can and they keep getting bigger with every fight. Jake just needs to make it though this fight without being embarrassed and he'll be fine. Tommy is the perfect next step in my opinion. He might not be the best boxer but he still is one and has that huge Fury name attached to him so it's a wise choice for Paul I think. It's not so dangerous for him but still gets him that clout of fighting a pro boxer without the huge risk of fighting someone who could KO him with one punch. It's a very interesting fight for me. Jake could be embarrassed and so could Fury. The fight going all the way or even Paul just putting in a decent performance is still going to be a win for him I think. If it's close they might even do a rematch and I'm sure both parties involved will love that. Did anyone see the press conference? Was pretty shambolic and embarrassing. John Fury needs to sit these things out. He said Tommy would bend Jake's GF over after the fight haha. A bit rapey ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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Those who havent seen this conference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwfWkxUiak8Why would Tommy called his relatives to the conference ? He is a big boy, he can handle things by himself. Otherwise it looks like a parent meeting at school ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I am just joking, they just call them for hype. Btw, we are in 2021, why their video call is so laggy? This conference was unfair, it was 1 vs 3 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) To make this show more entertaining, Jake should fight all of them same time on the ring.
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there is a recent update on their fight. looks like jake paul has been given an advantage in the fight(I am not surprised really). according to the article, the weight catch for the fight will be 192lbs. which was similar/closer to the weights where jake paul previously fought. as for Tommy Fury, the heaviest weight he has fought in is 189lbs which is still 3 pounds lighter than 192lbs. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/boxing/jake-paul-might-just-been-22207992Tommy Fury is the brother of the world famous Tyson Fury. He is a professional boxer and is serious about winning. Jake Paul is physically very strong. He recently defeated Tyrone Woodley. However, Tyrone Woodley is not a professional boxer. Tyrone Woodley is a former UFC fighter. That is, he owns boxing techniques, but his main technique is wrestling. And the fight was held according to boxing rules. And here Jake Paul will be confronted by a professional boxer strongly motivated to win. In my opinion, Tommy Fury will have a convincing victory over Jake Paul.
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November 25, 2021, 02:54:41 PM |
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Tommy Fury is the brother of the world famous Tyson Fury. He is a professional boxer and is serious about winning.
Jake Paul is physically very strong. He recently defeated Tyrone Woodley. However, Tyrone Woodley is not a professional boxer. Tyrone Woodley is a former UFC fighter. That is, he owns boxing techniques, but his main technique is wrestling. And the fight was held according to boxing rules.
And here Jake Paul will be confronted by a professional boxer strongly motivated to win.
In my opinion, Tommy Fury will have a convincing victory over Jake Paul.
I hope the same as I am tired of these fights with Paul brothers. They don't bring anything good to the boxing sport. This will the first fight that Jake Paul is fighting against a real boxer and I sure hope that Tommy Fury can deliver what we expect and knock him out in the first round ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .
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November 25, 2021, 03:30:55 PM |
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Tommy Fury is the brother of the world famous Tyson Fury. He is a professional boxer and is serious about winning.
Jake Paul is physically very strong. He recently defeated Tyrone Woodley. However, Tyrone Woodley is not a professional boxer. Tyrone Woodley is a former UFC fighter. That is, he owns boxing techniques, but his main technique is wrestling. And the fight was held according to boxing rules.
And here Jake Paul will be confronted by a professional boxer strongly motivated to win.
In my opinion, Tommy Fury will have a convincing victory over Jake Paul.
I hope the same as I am tired of these fights with Paul brothers. They don't bring anything good to the boxing sport. This will the first fight that Jake Paul is fighting against a real boxer and I sure hope that Tommy Fury can deliver what we expect and knock him out in the first round ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) . I think Jake Paul will be surprised when he gets the first hard blow to the nose. This will be new to him. It will be a very unusual experience for him. Perhaps he will ask himself why he didn’t go to play basketball instead of boxing? “Basketball players are good guys. They are peaceful and nice people. They jump merrily like kangaroos.... " “And Tommy Fury is somehow inadequate. He hits with his fist. And tries to get in the face. Where did I end up? " The actors, of course, get used to the role. But it's hard to play a funny dude when you are thrashed by a professional boxer.
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