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November 11, 2021, 09:20:32 PM
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^ He only said that because he beats Loma already. And if we go with that argument of his, then he is the best lightweight right? So no surprised about his statement and there are no respect there.

He should really give Loma a deserving rematch next year because thinking of jumping to 140 lbs division. At least we can settle all the arguments as who is the best lightweight.

Quite an interesting version, but these words can be like "glorifying yourself" as Lopez won against Lomanchenko, and maintaining interest in the rematch which can hardly be avoided. All participants in this match are interested in maximum public attention to this event. But if Lopez leaves this weight class without a rematch, it will look as tricky as possible  Cheesy

I agree, this is exactly what I read between the lines, he beat Loma and then tell everyone Loma can beat them all. I know that there is argument for triangle theory in boxing, but this statement seems to be the conception of his statement.

Lopez is very good boxers, maybe in the next 2-3 years he maybe the next great cash cow as he can move up to 140 lbs to 147. But there's always a question mark in his resume for now giving Loma a rematch.

Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley

Of course, money talks but Lopez would also consider his future if he will lose in the rematch. I guess the last time they fought they demanded at least $1 million, so I think it will be bigger if they'll fight for a rematch and probably he will also get a big slice of the pie on the sharing of revenue which might not be easy to agreen upon between promoters and boxers.

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November 12, 2021, 02:28:25 AM
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Most of the fans are still interested if there's going to be a chance of seeing Lopez and Loma again inside the ring.

Personally, I can say that if there's  a good amount of money that will be involve, rematch may also be consider, Loma needs to win this fight with

a dominance performance, that way fans will continue the chased of calling for the rematch before Lopez move up to another weight division.

Money will talk, still worth to wait both fighters always intensified the fans, showcasing their skills value what viewers are paying for  Smiley

And if ever there might be a rematch that would happen between Lopez and Loma most probably the good words from Lopez to Loma will definitely became a trash talk, well a mantra of a fighter is throwing words against each other which I think one of the way of the fighters and the boxing management too to hype the game. For now let's not focus on what Lopez have had spoke because this time is the time for Lomachenko and Commey to prove which fighter will going to be the last stand on their upcoming fight.
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November 12, 2021, 03:57:19 AM
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko. 

Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
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November 12, 2021, 06:36:08 AM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

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November 12, 2021, 08:02:31 AM
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Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
I don't think the bookies can freely to adjust the odds whatever they want, it's all based on the traffic and volume from the bettors. The more people bets, the lower odds will be and vice versa. Mostly they made profit from people who lose the bets and internal fees.

The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
There's no reason to watch him, many people already expect Fury will KO'ed Paul less than round 4. If Paul win then it's scripted Tongue

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November 12, 2021, 08:45:05 AM
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I am definitely rooting for Vasyl Lomachenko as I believe that Richard Commey will not be able to stand all the rounds against him. In my opinion this fight is a guaranteed way to increase my deposit. It is a pity that the bookmakers are giving too low odds to win Lomachenko.  

Well, the bookies need to make the money and they know for a fact that Loma is the favorite of this bout so what better thing to do than lower the odds on Lomachenko so they can secure large sums of profit. Lomachenko is way ahead against Commey so I don't see how Commey can get a win against Lomachenko. Maybe sheer determination or something like that.
Bookies have punters to make the odds for them, they can't simply manipulate it to be in their favor. From Vegas to fiat bookies to illegal bookies, everything should be in the norm. Otherwise it will raise a red flag and it might be a reason for investigations, although for crypto bookies we don't know who will do it but so far all reputable sports bookies doesn't have this case of manipulating the odds or something like that. They can make some adjustments, but if you are going to compare them to any other sports bookies the odds are going to be close enough.

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November 12, 2021, 09:56:42 PM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.

Of course. Because we have here two professional champions and in case of Paul - we have a match to make money (for sponsors and for those who will fight)

In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I think that favour is on  Lomachenko side. My IMHO. (more like my hope, because  Lomachenko is slav  Grin )

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November 13, 2021, 08:24:24 PM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.

Of course, you can't compare the two fights, this is real boxing. And we have the great Loma, one of the best pound for pound.

In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.
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November 13, 2021, 08:29:18 PM
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

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November 13, 2021, 08:48:16 PM
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Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.

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November 13, 2021, 08:55:12 PM
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Wasn't Nicholas Walters a knockout artist and could not land nothing being heavy handed is one thing but you gotta land. I only see teo land body shots and he hits like a mule to I got Loma on points but you never know in boxing. Hopefully Loma gets his rematch with Lopez. Man, I never heard that comment from Lopez after the Nakatani fight only picking fighters his height.

That's true, Walters knockout Donaire, but he can't land a single blow against Loma and then quit on his stool, Lol. A power puncher who says 'no mas' to the great Loma because he is frustrated.

The Lopez fight is very different though, now we understand why Loma fight very odd against Lopez is because he had that shoulder injury.

Lopez said he doesn't want to fight taller fighters no more like Nakatani. But look at what Loma did to Nakatani when they fought.
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

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November 13, 2021, 09:50:56 PM
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they are both equally strong enough but there is something in common here that they have been defeated by the same boxer.
but on the other hand Loma wanted to regain the position he had left before.
but on the other hand at this time his body condition was not too fit before, especially when he had experienced an injury that was enough to make him have to rest for a while and of course this would make his performance a little less than usual.

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November 13, 2021, 09:56:44 PM
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Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.
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Great, Lomachenko is back again for another fight this year. I thought he will rest until the end of this year after winning against Nakatani. So, I would say they are both getting ready to get revenge since they are both defeated against Lopez in 2019 and 2020 respectively.
But before that fight will happen, one of them should be held winner to advance and get revenge against Teofimo Lopez.

RC Commey has the height and reach advantage and yes a decent fighter too,  but on this match I don't think that he can beat Loma's timing techniques, speed and strength. Sadly, Commey will just be a stepping stone for Loma since Loma is really looking forward revenge his defeat against Lopez.

Loma certainly has the edge here, in fact, AFAIR, there's no fight of his that he was an underdog, he always gets listed as the favorite to win, just like this fight. After he lose against Teofimo Lopez, I'm sure he trained harder to continue achieving his dream, and maybe one day he would become an undisputed champion in his division like Canelo had recently achieved.

Yup, Lomachenko is indeed a crowd favorite and @Finestream is right, Commey will just be probably a stepping stone for Loma to advance and can have a rematch against Lopez after this since Loma can't forget that he underwent a shoulder surgery after that fight and lose via unanimous decision.
But we'll see how Loma will fight this December 11 after that said surgery, hopefully he's fully recovered now and can fight again well.

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November 14, 2021, 06:59:48 AM
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Well, Loma can make it an easy fight for him, we all know how good he is in adjusting. But the thing with Commey is that he has a long reach and Loma historically has difficulty in fighting boxers with that physically, like in the Jorge Linares fight wherein he suffered a flash knock down.

So it really depends on Loma, what will be his strategy and how he will read Commey in the first couple of rounds and then make the necessary adjustments to make the fight "easy" or at least he can control an dictate it.

He is good at making an adjustment in the fight, so he could do it but let's not be too complacent as Commey also has the experience, and in fact, he has more fights and his KO ratio is also good. I understand how people believe so much in Loma to win again, but as for me, I already have a little doubt on him unless he'll beat Teofimo Lopez in a rematch.

There's always this puncher's chance so yes, we don't count out Commey yet. He is a former champion, fought many great boxers in the past and has power.

But Loma is far more superior than any fighter in this division in my opinion. Loma's only lost in to Lopez but then again he was shoulder injury that time. But we can't do anything, and as much as we want to see a good rematch fight, Lopez refuses it and instead, go for his mandatory fight.

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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

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November 14, 2021, 10:19:52 AM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

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November 14, 2021, 10:23:52 AM
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The two former world champions will be fighting again in December, I think this fight will be more worth the wait than the show between Jack Paul and Tommy Fury which will also happen in December Grin Grin.
In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

That was a similar comment I read when Loma face Lopez, people thought that Loma would actually beat Lopez but what happened is the exact opposite of what the majority of people are thinking.  This is a big test for Loma, if he'll win this fight, then for sure he will get a chance to have a rematch against Lopez which I'm pretty sure will be one of the biggest fights next year, or the winner of the Lopez vs Kambasos Jr.

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November 14, 2021, 11:08:25 AM
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Loma is a intelligent fighter, if he was able to defeats nakatami in their last  fight that was very tense then I can predict he may win this fight coming up , he is a fighter with good strategy and much strength.
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