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November 14, 2021, 02:58:25 PM
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In my opinion both boxers are the best boxers so far in the lightweight, and of course the fight will be a fierce fight even if the fight is non-title, so far both boxers have a pretty good record, Commey so far recorded a total of 33 fights with 30 wins and three defeats and Lomachenko has 15 wins with two defeats from a total of 17 matches he has played

Commey in a former champion, and so is Loma in the lightweight, but I don't consider this a close fight. Others might not agree with by I think this will be an easy fight for Loma. He is very technical and I don't think that Commey can cope with that and then his speed and power.

No, I don't find it an easy one for Loma, we've seen him lose against Lopez and though he was injured that time, Lopez was really good at competing with Loma, therefore I would say that he also has a weakness and he is not invincible. With Commey's experience, it's possible that he can beat Loma but of course the betting sites would make Loma the favorite because he is the better fighter, but that doesn't mean he would win.

You've said it already, Loma is injured that time. Yes, I believed that everyone has weakness, but if you're opponent doesn't know how to exploit it then it will negate everything. Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.
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November 14, 2021, 07:49:47 PM
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So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.


If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.
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November 14, 2021, 08:18:50 PM
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So 2 fights this year for Lomachenko? indeed he might be thinking of regaining his previous position in the p2p lists. And it's a tough comeback road for him, but he is not taking it a lightly after that shoulder injury that causes him the title against Lopez. All roads though seems lead to Teofimo Lopez, so if he wanted to get his rematch, he has to do it the hard way. And I will go with the popular opinion here that Loma is going to win, maybe we just have to wait for the bookies to open up and see the odds.


If he wants to make a comeback then he has no other option to but to begin to fight more frequently, however it is yet to be seen if Teofimo Lopez will give him a chance, it seems they have personal problems that go beyond the ring as Teofimo accused the camp of Lomachenko of being disrespectful to him.

But in the case it happens Lomachenko will need to increase the amount of punches he throws as during their last fight Teofimo Lopez threw more than twice the number of punches he threw.

He has been fighting more frequently, he just beat Nakatani like 6 months ago if I'm not mistaken.

And then he is facing another great boxer and former champion in Richard Commey here. So there's no question that Loma is the more active fighter for this year. And has face the better opposition (although Lopez beat both of them already, but he has a hard time against a tall Nakatani. While Loma just toyed around and then knock out Nakatani).

We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..
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November 14, 2021, 08:43:47 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

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November 14, 2021, 08:52:02 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

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November 14, 2021, 09:06:27 PM
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We will see Lopez fight Kambosos in the next couple of days, but that fight took many months in the making, changing of promotional company etc.. etc..

That is his only fight this year if it will happen.

Loma will have his 2nd fight this year against Commey and if he wins this 2021 is a great year for Loma as he bounces back strong. While on the other hand, Lopez will be tested in his fight with Kambasos as his opponent is also undefeated and I feel he can match Lopez fairly in the ring, I expect an upset here actually. IMO, the most active boxer this year is Canelo Alvarez as he had fought 3 times this year.

Right, and I think he also wanted to send a message to Lopez here that he is really back after he defeated him and he has move forward facing two tough opponent in the division.

So if Loma wins in this fight against Commey, then Lopez can't hide next year. The fight should really be push, the ball is on Lopez court though, Loma is willing, but Lopez has so many excuses in his book.

As of now, Lopez has close his book for a possible rematch with Loma, but hopefully next year he will change his mind, of if he loses this fight, maybe Kambasos vs Loma would be great just to fulfill the excitement of the fans. If Loma wins, then that would close the discussion that he is the better fighter.

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November 14, 2021, 10:10:07 PM
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Commey is a pure boxer, as you can see in his records, his ko % is higher than Loma, meaning he always goes for a knock out. However, if that plan didn't happen, it's hard to have another option against a great techinical boxer in Loma here. Obviously, Loma will be the huge favorite when the betting line open.
I am yet to watch a Richard Commey fight, since you said he is having more knockouts than decisions, i just check his profile, he has 27 KO in 30 fights, so he is a power puncher than a pure boxer. I like the fighting style of Vasiliy Lomachenko and he is a technical master and i am sure he can handle the power of Commey with his slick boxing and then go for a rematch against Teófimo López.
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November 15, 2021, 09:47:38 AM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.

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November 15, 2021, 10:05:27 AM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.
Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

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November 15, 2021, 11:55:29 AM
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I would love to watch this fight. Lomachenko is an incredibly technical boxer and it is interesting to watch him. Despite the fact that the opponent is an obvious underdog, he is still a worthy opponent and the fight should not become too one-sided. As for betting, unfortunately the odds look too uninteresting to place a bet - 1.15, maybe during the battle it will be possible to try to guess in which round the knockout will be.

The betting odds might change when the fight is near the schedule. There was a huge difference against Lomanchenko as the favourite boxer to win against Commey.
Well, the odds tell the whole story.
Loma is just more agile and probably has more power in punching than Commey.
I honestly haven't heard about the guy Commey, but I think he's also good as a 90% KO artist, but then again I doubt the ability he has when facing a more elite fighter than those who he have defeated.

What needs to happen for these tiny (1.15) odds to change significantly? Is there any injury to Lomachenko or something like that? In this case, the fight will simply be postponed or canceled. The only thing I can imagine is a bad start for Loma and a change in live odds in favor of Commey, but this is extremely unlikely.
Yes, I don't see any wild swing in the odds as we near the fight and that odds could remain. On the contrary, maybe after the weigh-in, we might see the odds for Loma shrink.

Loma is healthy, no doubt that his shoulder injury has healed 100%. We can see a Loma back to his former when he fought Nakatani the movement and the punch output is already there.

After an impressive performance by Loma in his last fight, there's a reason why the bookies would make him a heavy favorite. People would just bet on Loma and that's the reason why bookies are just trying to balance the money since one needs to put a bigger bet in order to enjoy a decent profit, hence taking a high risk as well.

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November 15, 2021, 02:57:42 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.
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November 16, 2021, 12:40:43 PM
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If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

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November 16, 2021, 01:47:47 PM
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If he was injured, he should have postponed the fight. Or take a risk and try to knockdown Lopez. Imho it was Lomachenko fault, that he let judges decide who is the winner. Btw, in wikipedia it is mentioned, that Lomachenko did not want to put a rematch clause in contract. That s why Lopez is so angry and dont want to give Lomachenko rematch. "Eye for an eye". Loma must do his best to get a chance to fight Lopez again.

He should but he prefer not to cancel the fight because probably he needed some money and that was a big fight although it was held during the pandemic. All these although could be true are just an excuse only, a real fighter should accept his defeat without an excuses as that's the way to respect the winner of the fight.

SO WORD IS LOMACHENKO CAME IN TO THE LOPEZ FIGHT WITH A BAD SHOULDER

We need to see the rematch so people will stop taking that as an excuse on what they still believe that Loma is better than Lopez.

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November 16, 2021, 02:20:23 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

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November 16, 2021, 11:14:56 PM
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This is a battle of who wants to get back and challenge Teofimo Lopez again, Lomachenko is the heavy favorite he still has it, still has that matrix-like speed, an impressive win against Commey will set up him again to whoever wins against Lopez and Kambosos, of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.

We are not sure if the fight will happen of the winner between Lopez and Kambosos and Loma vs Commey.

As others have said, Lopez doesn't want to give Loma a rematch and Lopez hinted in his interview that he might go to 140 lbs and have a superfight with Josh Taylor, the unified champion.

Lopez is chasing big fights and that's what he wanted. Though if the offer for a Loma rematch will be huge, maybe he can't refuse it.

Well a Josh Taylor fight at 140 lbs makes sense, Lopez will make history and then there will be a lot of money in the table for Lopez.

And it's easy to made since Taylor sign with Bob Arum prior to his unification fight with Jose Ramirez.

But boxing wise, there's a lot of unfinished business in this division, Garcia, Davis and Haney to name a few and then a rematch with Loma is also good for this career, money wise.

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November 17, 2021, 05:41:21 AM
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

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November 17, 2021, 11:43:11 AM
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.... of course, Lopez wants to get back against Lopez because in his last fight he claim he was injured before the fight.
Do you mean Loma? Well, he would like a rematch but Lopez is not interested anymore, so there's nothing he can do but to find another opponent and keep winning and hope that maybe one day if Lopez keeps winning too they will meet again.

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November 17, 2021, 12:15:39 PM
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.
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November 17, 2021, 12:44:52 PM
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^^ Exactly this, there are still a lot of fights in 135 lbs that will make Lopez a ton of money.

After what he says, he is the top dog of this division, then why left and move up when there are a lot of unfinished business?

It seems to be that he is really trying to get away and not to give Loma his deserving rematch.

Maybe him and his father really hated the guy so much that they don't want to give him another good pay check.

Perhaps, but you know what, they are asking about $1m in the fight against Loma, but Loma doesn't want to give them to them. Not sure if the $1m had been given coming from Bob's purse personally.

But in any case, Loma really leave a bad taste from the Lopez's that's why when Teofimo beat him, they refuses any talk of a rematch.

But we all know that boxing is a business and everyone has a price, if he will be offered more money in the table, then maybe he will change his mind and will give Loma his rematch.

If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

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November 17, 2021, 02:14:23 PM
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If they'll do a rematch, it will be Lopez who will dictate the terms as he is in the place of Loma now when they first meet, and if Loma is really interested to redeem himself, he should accept even if the offer is low because if he wins the fight, that would lose the value of Lopez and he'll be at the top again.

People are still asking to see a rematch, they should give it a chance of happening for the sake of the fans.

Possible when they run out of opponents and beat everyone on their way to fight each other. Of course, the fans wanted to see the fight between them again to give Loma a chance to redeem himself and so that Lopez will prove to everyone that he is the best in their division. But as we know, it's all up to Lopez if he still wanted to gamble his record since he is already done with Loma.

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