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December 05, 2021, 10:42:37 AM
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I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

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December 05, 2021, 11:25:06 AM
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I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

He should be if he wants to get back in the limelight, I also believe that he can still take a shot in the lightweight division either from Kambosos or Haney, Loma is more technical than the two it will be a very exciting fight that we are going to have because they are both former champions and they are still in the prime of their career.

Haney just won his fight, and I think Loma's style will give Haney a problem.

As far as training goes, Loma has one of the best training video's I've seen, he is very technical because his training methods in unorthodox, combination of foot work, speed and timing.

For me though, it's better to go to Kambosos directly after he wins his fight with Commey. That is if George is willing to fight Loma or want to defend it right away.
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December 05, 2021, 11:43:38 AM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

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December 05, 2021, 02:04:04 PM
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Bookmakers are also confident that Loma will win. I support your point of view that the fight will end with a knockout. I could be wrong, but I don't think Commey can take even 6 rounds.

I've been looking at Loma's recent training videos and I think he's been very serious about his preparation for this fight.

More likely Loma will dominate him in the earlier round in order to defeat him without giving the officials to judge the fight with their score which is likely boring. It will be an easy fight for Loma next week and it would be a nice warm-up if ever he will gonna have a chance to fight some champion on his next fight. Canelo should not give his opponent some chance for an opportunity because this fight is his ticket to get back to have a chance to claim his throne again.

I would not think of an easy fight though, Loma has proven being not unbeatable in boxing, he loses to Lopez and Richard Commey is a boxer with a decent record. Loma in order for him to win doesn't need to rush things, he stays with his strategy which is to slowly beat his opponent and use his calculated punches on Richard Commey.

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Vasyl Lomachenko   -800
Richard Commey   +475
https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/vasyl-lomachenko-vs-richard-commey-odds-fight-prediction-betting

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December 05, 2021, 02:26:02 PM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO.  Grin Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.
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December 05, 2021, 08:10:59 PM
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I think Commey has an edge when it comes to reach and height. He can could give it a use. But based on his fight with Lopez, he needs to keep up with speed and throw some good punches as well he was a bit of guard.
On the other hand Loma and Lopez fight was intense specially on the start of 6th to finish. I really thought Loma won that fight but yes he his a bit dull on the first few rounds.

I think even this event will look like a replay of Lopez vs Commey , I will be excited watching both Commey and Loma do their thing and see their improvements from previous loses.
Commey doesn't have a tough chin and has an edge about his reach, he usually play long distance. Unlike Lomachenko he play close with the opponent and it's more intense than long range.

Commey's last fight with Marinez doesn't have any improvements, it's similar like he fight with Lopez before. I bet Lomachenko will win via KO, but I can't predict which round it is.

I have also noticed that. Lomachenko and Lopez are quite alike, they fight close and Commey keeps it distant. I think they have to use their strengths properly. But yes, I'm a bit of a fan of Loma than Commey. Hope he wins by KO.  Grin Would like to see another Lopez and Loma fight again.

Lopez and Loma's fight probably not gonna happen anymore unless Lopez will start winning again but his next fight is not going to be Loma because he is moving up in weight.

His guy who beat Lopez is more interesting.

holding these belts will probably make Loma more interested.

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December 06, 2021, 10:17:11 PM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

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December 07, 2021, 09:36:10 AM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.

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December 07, 2021, 11:24:36 AM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.
Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.

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December 07, 2021, 04:44:26 PM
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Let's wait for the betting odds to be available as betting on the ML for Loma does not make sense unless you have huge capital.

If you are looking for attractive odds, betting on KO in a specific range of rounds would be the answer, mostly, the round ranges are per 3 rounds, you just have to make a good guess and put your money, or bet on Loma winning by decision, maybe that is higher than the 1.15 odds.

I don't chase high odds as it increases the risk of losing. I try not to take risks, so it is more important for me to increase my deposit a little than to take a risk and lose a part of my deposit in case of losing.

Calculate how much the probability of winning decreases when betting on one of the ranges of rounds and if you are satisfied with such risks, then place this bet.
Same here mate, I prefer the crowd favorite and I based it usually on my research about the probability on which fighter has more chances to win. I always do it in a safe way to prevent losses in the future, I mean yes, high odds is definitely tempting to bet but in the end of the day it will lead you to some losses. So might as well go in the safe way.
Chances on this match is Loma will win and Commey will just be a stepping stone to get Loma's revenge against Lopez. We will see it soon!
Betting for the favorite is the most logical choice to make, however if we know this then it is obvious the casinos know this as well, and what they do to try to encourage other people to bet for the underdog is to give them better odds while at the same time reducing the odds of the favorite, this means that it gets to a point that even if you think one fighter is the clear favorite the odds offered for a bet for the underdog are too good to pass up, and a bet for them to win is the right call.
There's no use to bet for the underdog (Commey) here in this match, even if those gambling sites put some tasty odds to make you think twice. Obviously, Loma has the upper hand in this fight, so if some people will fall in that odds trap then it's their loss. The crowd favorite or choice will always be the winner except for some categories or fighters, but mostly it'll go that way no matter what the odds are. The real bet here is to guess what round will Loma knock Commey out.

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And about your second point, it is true that Lopez is moving up a division, but it is possible Lomachenko does the same if he is not given a chance to fight for a title right away and he is avoided by both champions  in that case age could become factor for Lomachenko and he could decide to move up a division as well, in which case a rematch between the two will be almost unavoidable.

I would not want to wait that long (in this case, we will see this fight no earlier than in 3-4 years), but in fact it would be epic - to catch up with an opponent who avoids revenge in another weight category and make him accept the fight there  Grin
This can be a plot for some movie (the main thing is that Loma fulfills his task and wins this battle).
Without a doubt it is an interesting story that I would like to see, after all Lopez has been very arrogant since his victory over Lomachenko and I think he let that victory get to his head and now he needs to begin once again to build his reputation after that defeat against Kambosos.

And what could be more perfect than another fight with Lomachenko? I am sure Lomachenko will be willing to accept that fight anytime and anywhere to have the chance to avenge his defeat at the hands of Lopez, and if Lomachenko wins then we could see a trilogy between them.
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December 07, 2021, 06:30:23 PM
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Now that Haney has beaten Diaz things have become a lot clearer, it seems that both Haney and Kambosos want to go for a unification fight, Kambosos wants the fight at Australia and it seems Haney is willing to accept it, and if we add a possible rematch clause, then it could be more than a year before Lomachenko has a chance to fight one of them for the title, is he willing to wait that long or will he move up a division and look for an opportunity there?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/59540749

He is too small for 140 lbs division, so I doubt that he will move up in weight.

Let's wait if there is a rematch clause for the Haney and Kambosos fight. It is much better and competitive if it will be Kambosos vs Loma, but Loma doesn't have the belt so he doesn't have the luxury right now.

So all he have to do is wait or fight another former champion in 135 and see who will emerge between Haney and Kambosos.
Yeah, agree, although Lomachenko is a great boxer and one of the best but there are limits to his capability. And at 140 lbs, there are bigger boxer, more natural that can give him difficult fight and he can loss as well.

So probably his main aim before retirement is to get back all the belts he lost to Lopez. Currently Kambosos has it but if George will fight Haney next year and then Lomachenko winning, then probably they can set up a fight after.
He just wanted to have some more money before retiring, trying to have as many fight as he can while promoters still interested with him, he's aging now and just like how those prime fighters ends up, retirement is unavoidable, for now it's best to accept whatever offer if the price is right.

No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley

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No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley
^ Yeah it is almost there and this should be an exciting match and it would be nice if we watch them live.
I saw bookies odds between on them and it seems Commey has +600 odds while Loma got -1100 which is there are a lot of bettors on the side of Loma's goods. I cant imagine how Commey looks like after this match, as far as I remember, all of Loma's previous 15 fights and 11 of them were as a result of knockout.
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No doubt about Loma's skills and that's how fans follow him and support his fights. Wink

Almost there and I'm excited to see if how Loma will bring this one..  Smiley
^ Yeah it is almost there and this should be an exciting match and it would be nice if we watch them live.
I saw bookies odds between on them and it seems Commey has +600 odds while Loma got -1100 which is there are a lot of bettors on the side of Loma's goods. I cant imagine how Commey looks like after this match, as far as I remember, all of Loma's previous 15 fights and 11 of them were as a result of knockout.

I guess if someone will post a link again (@coin-investor), it will be great for us. I doubt though we can watch it live,  Grin

Commey now 7:1 odds against Loma in sportsbet. For sure Commey will be a good challenge for Loma in the first couple of rounds until he figures him out and be technical and Commey be like a lost pup inside because of Loma's ability to dart in and out and uses his footwork to confuse Commey.

I will not be surprised to see Commey quit here like the others who fought Loma.

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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

I speculate that Lomachenko might see it as his chance to give the fans and the boxing promoters an unforgettable performance to make an argument as the next challenger of Kambosos. This is also after we witnessed not very good performances from Gervonta Davis and Haney.

Lomachenko odds is very small, also small on the Lomachenko knockout odds. However, total rounds for the right might be under 8.5 rounds with odds 1.89? We have also witnessed Lopez knockout Commey in round 2.

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December 08, 2021, 05:12:09 AM
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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

Supporting this lol  Grin

he had just won from Gervonta Davis and Isaac Cruz , and those fight before that meaning He is literally an Boxing expert (not to mention also in Basketball) so please @bisdak mind sharing your thoughts and views in this incoming fight?

there are only 3 days remaining so we are looking for possible win in this one  Grin


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December 08, 2021, 06:54:52 AM
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@bisdak. You are the boxing expert hehe. What is your prediction for this fight?

Supporting this lol  Grin

he had just won from Gervonta Davis and Isaac Cruz , and those fight before that meaning He is literally an Boxing expert (not to mention also in Basketball) so please @bisdak mind sharing your thoughts and views in this incoming fight?

there are only 3 days remaining so we are looking for possible win in this one  Grin



bisdak40 loves to bet on the favorite to win by decision so he would get good odds, so he is probably betting on Loma to win by decision.  Smiley

Loma by decision at 3.45.. I think it's hard to resist that one.
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December 08, 2021, 11:20:33 AM
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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

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For me Loma should win this fight, again, we all know how this technical skills is, it's above everyone as this division and in the whole boxing for that matter. And I would say that Commey is more of  a brawler type of fighter and it's a perfect fit for Loma's ability.

I'm seeing Loma showing his skills again, confusing Commey at times and then go for a knock out maybe in the middle to the latter rounds. Well its good to see Loma going full 12 rounds but against Nakatani, it didn't last that long.

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You guys made me laugh  Grin.

Anyways, thanks for the compliment but labeling me as a boxing expert is too much but appreciate it that you have noticed my speculations in boxing as I'm an avid fan of this sweet science since my teens. Lots of users here who are better than me when it comes to boxing speculations, @Baofeng is a legend for me when it comes to this sport.

Back to the topic, the odds for Loma to win by KO is not too tempting especially to us non-high-roller gamblers and Loma is out to prove that he is the top dog of this division so he will try his best to KO Commey if there is an opportunity.

I'm seriously contemplating on betting for Loma to win by decision with that 3.45 odds because Commey's only KO loss came from Teofimo Lopez who is a well-known brawler and a heavy puncher, I think that he has the chance to last the full 12 rounds.

@Baofeng, what's your take on this one bro?

You do not think that Lomachenko might have more motivation to knockout Commey after witnessing the lacklustre performance of Gervonta Davis and the boring performance of Haney? This is his chance to snatch that opportunity from those champions hehehe.

In any case, I will follow the experts for this one.

@Boafeng. Your fans are waiting hehehehe.

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