[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs. Ilunga Makabu

[goinmerry]

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight.

Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight.

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[YinShuiSiYuan]

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Slowly but surely, Canelo can adjust to the phase of competition in the Light HeavyWeight. Being an undisputed champion in the Welterweight is already considered as a boxer that can take challenges on a much upper weight class next to Welterweight.

Defeating Makabu is the first step on that. Canelo will surely give his very best in that fight.

Canelo has a chance to prove himself to be a very flexible boxer. If the coaches think that he can handle the Light HeavyWeight division, why not do it .. I'm sure that in addition to more opportunities, more money will also go for it.

[carlisle1]

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents,  having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

[Ziskinberg]

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents,  having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

[AmoreJaz]

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

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These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents,  having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there.
as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div.

[Baofeng]

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29

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These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

Before Alvarez camp decide to move up they scout every possibilities that they've got.

The team have that game plan for Alvarez to stand still against those bigger and tougher opponents,  having strategy or sets of strategy

to increase the chance of winning is within the training team.

Likewise, they have something that we don't know adjustment that we will witness during the fight.

We already have an idea of what Canelo would do in the fight but we don't know what Ilunga Makabu will use as his strategy to beat Canelo, he is a huge guy with power, so Canelo has to be very careful as if he gets hit, he might get hurt with a power that he never felt before in his current division.

The bookies are still convinced though that Canelo would win, so we cannot change the betting odds but that does not guarantee the outcome is the same of majority's expectation.

that is if makabu will win over mchunu. so makabu should better win this fight in order for him to face canelo. the move to higher weight division is really a challenge for canelo. but the good thing here is that we've seen canelo move up to divisions from 153-175 lbs. so he knows the drill here. it is not the case that he will move from 153 to 200lbs. would be hard if that is the case here. though the risk is still there.
as he needs to wait who will win the makabu v mchunu match, he has ample time to think of possible options how to win on this weight div.

As you have said, he already move to 175 lbs without a problem. And as he stated, he will be going in this fight around the 180 lbs-190 lbs, so there is no weight cutting or such for him, so his body will remain maybe just add few muscles in 6 months.

For the Makabu vs Mchunu fight, I reckon Makabu will be the favourite in this fight although this is a rematch, he already shows in the first first that he is the better fighter. And he will definitely try and go for a win here because a Canelo fight will be his biggest paycheck.

[chaser15]

These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

Beforehand, Canelo Alvarez knows already and is aware that he will soon take a fight at these boxers. He won't step up on another ladder if he's not sure he can't handle these boxers at the top of his chosen next division.

It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge. As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey.

[SmokerFace]

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

[lienfaye]

It's hard for a boxer to decide whether they will stay or not in their respective decision that's why they are already prepared for what they will face as a new challenge.

Well, if they want to grow as a boxer they should be open for more challenging fight. The more big fights they will get means a bigger opportunities for their career and of course the earnings.

As Canelo now finished everything in his former division, it's reasonable to step up now, and defeating Ilunga Makabu will test his new journey.

Its not certain yet if Canelo will face Makabu. Because the latter needs first to fight his mandatory (Mchunu) on January next year. Then the winner on that fight will go against Canelo on May.

[TravelMug]

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao.

So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him.

Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation.

[Fredomago]

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao.

So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him.

Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation.

Adjustment will be witness once the fight started, it's a new territory for him indeed he's going to compete with someone who has all the advantages from this ring, though most of his fans believes that he can stand up and make another accomplishments but for sure this time it won't be an easy journey for him.

After this fight, if in case, he takes this one from Makabu. There are more challenges that he will be facing.

He's journey toward this new weight is very interesting. We never know if he can really dominate or it's just a testing ground if he failed
he will simply go back.

[Fatunad]

As expected with Canelo after winning on his last match, he can easily have the next match so they can continue with the hype.
With the records of Makabu, I can say that he is a great boxer and should be taken seriously by Canelo this could be a big match for him and if he him, for sure next match will settle right away. Any news about the target date of this Match?

Yes, it's quite possible.

But there's always another end to the story if the past winner is not in form or didn't had good rest or medical issues.
The first match of Canelo was easy to predict and Canelo was in form and with more exp compared to their opponent.

I wouldn't call Canelo hype though, I mean he has proven himself time and time again and could be the fighter of the decade by all means. And then him going up from 154 lbs to 190 lbs that's amazing, just like another legendary boxer who just retired, Manny Pacquiao.

So with this another accomplished, either who he face, he will the favourite although this will be a new territory for him.

Nevertheless, we know how great he is, as he can adjust and fight all adversities, for sure he can win this fight and include his name again as one of the greats in recent generation.

Adjustment will be witness once the fight started, it's a new territory for him indeed he's going to compete with someone who has all the advantages from this ring, though most of his fans believes that he can stand up and make another accomplishments but for sure this time it won't be an easy journey for him.

After this fight, if in case, he takes this one from Makabu. There are more challenges that he will be facing.

He's journey toward this new weight is very interesting. We never know if he can really dominate or it's just a testing ground if he failed
he will simply go back.

As a Boxer then it would be a do or die kind of situation which he would tend to improve and go higher weigh division and this is where it do started and just like on what you said if ever he would failed then he would simply go back but doesnt mean that he wont be doing it again. You wouldnt know unless you do try.
It is actually varying on someones or on boxers preference or mindset in regarding into his career and this will really be different
on each boxers mind.

[South Park]

There has been a change of plans in this fight,

Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422

It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.

[Silberman]

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

I did not said that he will do it I was just bringing up an scenario, after all boxing is a business and it is obvious that the champions are going to want to fight Canelo right away and get their pay while at the same time they defeat him and show their superiority, but what will happen if Canelo can in fact beat them? He can easily get two belts before the rest of the champions become aware of how much of a threat he is, and then it could be a matter of time before we see him getting all the belts or having no option but to move to the heavyweight division.

[agustina2]

There has been a change of plans in this fight,

Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422

It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.

I think you are missing the point of that rematch between Makabu vs Mchunu. There is no connection with what you are saying that Canelo is a cash cow.

Let that fight happen as there's a reason for it to be held first. Canelo can always wait and that should not be a problem for him.

OP should now update the thread or else, locked for the meantime.

[Kemarit]

There has been a change of plans in this fight,

Canelo won't go directly to Makabu, but he has to wait for the winner of Makabu vs Mchunu. This is a rematch fight and Mchunu doesn't want to step aside and this is going to be scheduled next year January 29.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-prez-makabu-mchunu-winner-go-against-canelo--162422

It was to be expected, after all we know that right now Canelo is the cash cow of the world of boxing, so whoever he fights is going to get a lot of money for the privilege, so no one wants to miss the opportunity to fight him now that he is entering a new division, after all this is probably going to be one of the best opportunities anyone is going to have to beat him as he is not going to be used to fight with that much weight yet and his speed and power could be compromised.

I think you are missing the point of that rematch between Makabu vs Mchunu. There is no connection with what you are saying that Canelo is a cash cow.

Let that fight happen as there's a reason for it to be held first. Canelo can always wait and that should not be a problem for him.

OP should now update the thread or else, locked for the meantime.

Maybe what he is saying that who will ever win in their rematch will face Canelo, boxing's cash cow. So there is still connection for Makabu vs Mchunu.

Either one of them are going to train hard and fight as hard as they can because they know that they are going to be rewarded next with a great pay against Canelo. But I would say that Canelo will still have the advantage on either of Makabu or Mchunu and chances are high that he will get the cruiserweight title.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

I did not said that he will do it I was just bringing up an scenario, after all boxing is a business and it is obvious that the champions are going to want to fight Canelo right away and get their pay while at the same time they defeat him and show their superiority, but what will happen if Canelo can in fact beat them? He can easily get two belts before the rest of the champions become aware of how much of a threat he is, and then it could be a matter of time before we see him getting all the belts or having no option but to move to the heavyweight division.

I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

[mirakal]

It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

I did not said that he will do it I was just bringing up an scenario, after all boxing is a business and it is obvious that the champions are going to want to fight Canelo right away and get their pay while at the same time they defeat him and show their superiority, but what will happen if Canelo can in fact beat them? He can easily get two belts before the rest of the champions become aware of how much of a threat he is, and then it could be a matter of time before we see him getting all the belts or having no option but to move to the heavyweight division.

I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

That's too much for Canelo, the height difference matters also and with Fury, no chance Canelo or GGG would win as even Wilder who is a heavy hitter cannot completely KO Fury.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

For sure, but I hope it's a calculated test as boxers in CW are heavy hitters compared to the division where he won as an undisputed champion.

[agustina2]

That's too much for Canelo, the height difference matters also and with Fury, no chance Canelo or GGG would win as even Wilder who is a heavy hitter cannot completely KO Fury.

Height matters but in boxing, as long as you fighting within the same weight, the shorter one has the advantage. Pacquiao and Mayweather is the best proof of that. Canelo is known for his expertise in swing defense. It was so fast that he can make a counter while his opponent is still waiting for their punching stance to come back.

But talking about Canelo vs Fury or Wilder is not a topic for now. It won't happen by any chances until there's a rumor.

[Yaunfitda]

That's too much for Canelo, the height difference matters also and with Fury, no chance Canelo or GGG would win as even Wilder who is a heavy hitter cannot completely KO Fury.

Height matters but in boxing, as long as you fighting within the same weight, the shorter one has the advantage. Pacquiao and Mayweather is the best proof of that. Canelo is known for his expertise in swing defense. It was so fast that he can make a counter while his opponent is still waiting for their punching stance to come back.

But talking about Canelo vs Fury or Wilder is not a topic for now. It won't happen by any chances until there's a rumor.

If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.

Maybe if he can move like Usyk, very fast and technical, maybe he can upset some heavyweight that are slow, but with the likes of Fury who is very fast even at a height of 6'6++ it's hard to see Canelo dealing with that disadvantage.