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December 02, 2021, 07:47:22 PM
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The transition to a heavier division is always difficult, after all he is considered to be a very heavy puncher in his current division but at the heavier divisions this may not be true, so supposing this is the case then he will need to adjust his style and increase the rate at which he throws punches, which will leave him more open for attacks and we will see if his chin can take the increased strength of his opponents, all in all this seems like a good challenge for Canelo and it is going to be very interesting to see if Canelo can overcome it.

This will be a challenging fight for Canelo for sure even if he is considered as a heavy puncher in his current division moving to a heavier division is not that easy. Ilunga Makabu accept the offer smoothly and he is preparing for this fight with Canelo for he was also acknowledging that Canelo was one of the best fighter today. This would going to be an exciting fight to watch for, I am rooting for Canelo but I don't think so if a knock out win in favor of Canelo will going to happen, quite difficult to predict.
We will have to wait and see if Canelo actually fights Makabu, it seems he needs to have a mandatory fight and his opponent is not taking the step aside money because he thinks he can win, and in that case he is the one that will face Canelo and get a lot more money from that fight than whatever he could get from the step aside money, however assuming that Makabu wins it is still going to be a difficult fight for Canelo as he will have no time to adjust to the division and will fight one of the champions right away.

As far a I know, this is verbally been approved by WBC already during their convention so most likely this fight will push thru without any problems or hitch and the mandatory will have to wait for the results. I guess this is the perks of being the best fighter right now, Canelo can just requested the governing body that he wants to fight and challenge their Cruiserweight champion. And Makabu can't do anything about it because he will get a lot of money fighting Canalo.
Makabu wants to fight Canelo right away, after all he knows this is going to be a big fight for him whether he wins or losses as Canelo will bring a lot of viewers with him due to his popularity, it is the mandatory challenger that wants to fight Makabu first so in the case he wins then he is the one to face Canelo right away, now it may not seem to make a difference but it does, especially when it comes to the money, after all if the mandatory beats Makabu he will receive more money simply because he is the current champion and Canelo is the challenger, but if the mandatory has to wait until we see the result of the fight between Makabu and Canelo then he will receive less money if he faced Canelo as now the roles will be reversed and he will be the challenger.
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December 02, 2021, 10:32:57 PM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.

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December 02, 2021, 10:53:47 PM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.

this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.

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December 02, 2021, 11:51:02 PM
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they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.

Canelo is almost fighting on that weight when he is entering the ring. They are just maintaining the weight requirements before the weigh-in. After that, they will eat lots again. Stepping on another weight class is surely not a problem for Canelo.

The one who waiting above will have the problem. He should do double to triple preparation as the beast is coming his way.

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December 02, 2021, 11:52:09 PM
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this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
If you are on top of your game you are always prepared and you are the target and you are on the list of almost every fighter within your category, and Canelo knows all this he knows who to fight and who he can beat in the weight category that he chooses, so I think he has good chances on the two fighters, whoever wins between the two, Canelo will be ready, I never question his power he just has to be Canelo in the ring and things will be good.


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December 03, 2021, 12:44:52 AM
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this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
If you are on top of your game you are always prepared and you are the target and you are on the list of almost every fighter within your category, and Canelo knows all this he knows who to fight and who he can beat in the weight category that he chooses, so I think he has good chances on the two fighters, whoever wins between the two, Canelo will be ready, I never question his power he just has to be Canelo in the ring and things will be good.

Yeah, and Canelo knows this for sure that's why he always prepare 110% in every fight and you can see it in every youtube videos about his training regimen and preparation and that's what keeps him on top of his game as he reaches his prime. So he has time in his side to estimate either Makabu or Mchunu and whoever wins that fight, Canelo will be ready. The weight will not be a problem for him, he just need to eat more to gain more pounds for this weight class.

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December 03, 2021, 02:04:32 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.

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December 03, 2021, 06:43:15 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.

He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO.


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December 03, 2021, 01:27:43 PM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

I agree with you, it is to be expected, after all Sulaiman and Canelo are both Mexicans and they are proud of what Canelo has accomplished so they give them all they want like a baby here, So win win for Canelo and this fight for the belt in cruiserweight will be big in Cinco de Mayo, another sell out crowd for Canelo as he will be going for another Mexican record in their holiday.

He better wins this fight so the fans will not be disappointed, he is moving up in weight like he is just walking in the park, so I'm confident that he will win but I also see the possibility of a big upset, of course, no boxer that is unbeatable, they sometimes make a costly mistake that could result to an L, worst if they get KO.


Right, but I would say that Canelo is more intelligent than that, to get an upset although I would agree that the chance is there. Specially he is the one moving up, so he is not sure of the power of the cruiserweight division and for sure it it very different from middleweight as this guy is almost on the heavyweight side.

So let's see if Canelo wins this fight and what will be his next move, maybe go down again to light heavyweight or stay in the cruiserweight and face the other champions and maybe unify it again.
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December 03, 2021, 01:40:54 PM
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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

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December 05, 2021, 07:11:37 PM
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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.
It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.
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December 05, 2021, 09:35:19 PM
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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.
It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.
I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.

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December 06, 2021, 12:35:28 AM
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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.
It is going to be very interesting what happens in the cruiserweight category now that Canelo is in it, most of those champions are going to want to have the chance to fight him so they can earn a lot of money but they could be giving away their belts in the process, if Canelo dominates this division as well all what will be left for him will be try to fight in the heavyweight division, even if not long ago Canelo insisted that was not part of his plans.

Yes, that is the Canelo sweepstakes, just like Pacquiao before, even if he still past his prime, fighters want to face him because of the huge payment they are going to check.

To be honest, it was only Breidis who is more familiar to me in the Crusierweight division, I also have to check the other champions when Canelo decided to move up in this division and yes, those are big and powerful dude that Canelo has to face to chase greatness. If he decided to stay here, it will be a different story.

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December 06, 2021, 02:25:12 AM
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I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.
Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive.

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December 06, 2021, 06:52:02 AM
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WBC is giving all the advantage to Canelo, Lol. Makabu vs Mchunu first then they fight each and soften each other for Canelo. And then they will just have 4 months to prepare for Canelo.

And then Canelo can watch how both of them fight and win he see who is the winner, he already has a good strategy in his mind in advance. So I'm seeing Canelo going to win whoever he is going to fight next.

That's expected lol. WBC is Mexico-based and its president, Mauricio Sulaiman is Mexican as well so what can we expect hehe.

Yeah, Canelo always has the luxury of choosing whom to fight and everybody else just wanting to win that Canelo sweepstakes, that would be their very paycheck once Canelo chooses them.

But I like the chance of Makabu here once he disposes of Mchunu because of his size advantage. He may not have that lateral movement but at least he has the puncher's chance.

True, Sulaiman loves Canelo and being Mexican and holding a WBC belt, Canelo has his perks and can choose whoever he fights under this organisation.

And since Canelo is the cash cow now, every boxer is after him, like Makabu and Mchunu who will fight first, sort of eliminator but the funny thing is that they belt is on the line. Anyway, I hope Makabu wins so he will get his biggest paycheck and give Canelo a good fight at cruiserweight.

this is a very good opportunity for Canelo to prepare more for this upcoming fight. he should use the waiting time for his rigid preparation because one should not take for granted about the capability of either makabu or mchunu. whoever wins on their match. they have certain advantage as they are fighting on their comfort zone.
so if in case canelo will win on this weight division, he will be more bankable as a boxer here.
It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

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It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.



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December 06, 2021, 07:06:34 AM
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I would not say that Canelo will dominate, too early for that, he is only trying to fight his first attempt in this heavier division, so let's see first how he will perform as heavy fighters are not easy to knockdown, and usually, the one that is going up will struggle that's why only a few boxers succeeded in doing that.
Yep, even Makabu isn't really known boxer but consider he has a belt and heavy fighter, we shouldn't underestimating him. It's true Alvarez is the best boxer, but it's only on middle weight. Heavy boxer has a though chin and hard to knocked, but they're lack of speed which Alvarez very good in this. Alvarez should play more defensive and do counter punch rather than aggressive.


He has the belt for nothing, the trainings that he has is also need to consider, it's a different weight division and the fighter here is more solid and ready to go blow by blow, speed wise Canelo may have it but due to adding weight might possible that adjustment is not that fast for him.

Going to wait for the fight and see if there's a good advantage for him or the decision to move up is not yet ripe for him to grab.  Roll Eyes

Good luck to everyone who will take side to Canelo to win this fight. Wink

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December 06, 2021, 07:10:23 AM
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It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.
I do understand Canelo's decision that he didn't gave GGG a chance to have a rematch, because if that's me, why would I have to? GGG vs Canelo's fight was a draw, that's why there's a rematch made a year after and Canelo did win that particular match. It's like, he's done with GGG, there's nothing to prove anymore because Canelo's vision is to defeat boxers that have been reigning for a long time now, just like this coming fight, Saul Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu. I'm pretty excited to see this two fellas fight.

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December 06, 2021, 11:41:46 AM
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It will be a very rough and hard training for Canelo because aside from boxing training about Makabu's offensive and defensive strategy, he will then go to weight lifting to gain some weights because he's not suit on the CW now. We really can't know for sure who has the upper hand on this fight because Makabu is om a 9th time win streak from 2017 up until now and Canelo has been known also for his mindest tactics and power punches. We'll see about this next year, soon.

Definitely, the training would be different as it's not his division, he is trying to face a bigger challenge to test his capability. Canelo will become a hall of Famer already, and he is not afraid of losing that's why I admire what he did. I had some little doubt on him when he did not give GGG a rematch, but this action going up is tougher than a rematch with GGG.
I do understand Canelo's decision that he didn't gave GGG a chance to have a rematch, because if that's me, why would I have to? GGG vs Canelo's fight was a draw, that's why there's a rematch made a year after and Canelo did win that particular match. It's like, he's done with GGG, there's nothing to prove anymore because Canelo's vision is to defeat boxers that have been reigning for a long time now, just like this coming fight, Saul Alvarez vs Ilunga Makabu. I'm pretty excited to see this two fellas fight.

It did not result in a draw, the last fight was won by Canelo Alvarez via Majority decision, so there's nothing to prove anymore, it's only up to him if he will give a rematch or not. You can watch the highlights of the fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaMOJ577ABA).

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December 06, 2021, 03:30:59 PM
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These are the champions that Canelo will have to face if he stays at Cruiserweight class.

https://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Category:World_Champions_By_Weight_Class#Cruiserweight_.28200_lbs.2C_90.7_kg.2C_14_st_4_lbs.29



These are big and powerful boxers, if he will reign here then probably that's another history for him.

That's really tough coming from welterweight but in the light heavyweight division he makes things easy he moves like a middleweight but hits like a heavyweight in that division, we have to give their team a benefit of the doubt that they can do better in the cruiserweight division, they have a game plan that we don't know we can only speculate.

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