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November 22, 2021, 08:14:02 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).

The reality is a lot of places mentioned at the beginning of the article were (maybe it has changed in the last decade) just not that interesting. Sure they possess a certain charm to the locals, much like anywhere you call home might hold a special place in your heart - but they were many times built as functional towns of industry or simply small scale "market" towns. They were never built to draw in tourist activity because they simply don't have the scale to accommodate that compared to somewhere like London or Edinburgh. People also don't tend to move very far because most tend to want to stay somewhat near to family and live in an already densely packed country, so just 50 miles away might give enough "distance".

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November 22, 2021, 08:48:22 PM
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Why would we move though? I mean I get that some nations are worse than others, for example I "rather" live in UK then live in my own nation, that would be better. However what people do not understand is that moving is not really that simple and you do not get that dream life all of a sudden. I have a friend who went to another nation as refugee and she is getting paid by the government and she is living a "decent" life compared to here but she can't see her family, doesn't have any friends, lives in constant fear of racism, and many other things. Long story short it is not simple.

Far easiest answer would be the fact that I can't leave my parents here and move to some other place, if you can then you should but mine are very old and I do not want to leave them here all alone just in case. Second stage would be finding job there, why would I go to a great nation just to be homeless there? All these combined makes it harder to move.

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November 22, 2021, 08:53:37 PM
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Sometimes it's not about changing the ways toward financial world. Some people are just okay with the ways of their life and no matter how you convince them to consider an alternative, they will never make a move.
Look at in this way. A man who live in a region where is lack of basic amenities but have enough to feed his family and live a normal life wouldn't want to move to Canada where there is every basic amenities but the tax would take aways his pu check and also the bills are not as friendly to him.
Bitcoin is a financial option and not everyone will agree to it no matter the level of hype or adoptions we called it, they will still take their normal life over bitcoin.

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November 22, 2021, 10:53:43 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
More like they don't move out of their comfort zone. They do know that their money might be used better somewhere else, but they just don't do want to do it because they are either very lazy and comfortable with what they have, or they just don't want to take any risk at all. Look at the media. I am sure they read a lot of stuffs about bitcoin on their social media platform and this scares them away from investing their money in crypto currencies. I am sure if crypto currency investments were risk free, every one would "start moving".

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November 22, 2021, 11:56:36 PM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
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most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
More like they don't move out of their comfort zone. They do know that their money might be used better somewhere else, but they just don't do want to do it because they are either very lazy and comfortable with what they have, or they just don't want to take any risk at all. Look at the media. I am sure they read a lot of stuffs about bitcoin on their social media platform and this scares them away from investing their money in crypto currencies. I am sure if crypto currency investments were risk free, every one would "start moving".
They afraid to take the risk since they doesn't know if they can earn something good in return that's why many doesn't want to get out on their comfort zone and they mostly settle on what they earn that's why we see a slow progress unto them. But if many can handle those things regarding on what they are afraid of for sure there efforts will be paid of in the long run. But I'm sure once those person who's afraid to take the risk will step up once they are already earning decent amount from what they are doing today.

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November 23, 2021, 04:05:22 AM
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Some people don't want to improve. They prefer calm life without challenging changes in their life. They don't see opportunities, they consider it to be fraud. Many people in my county have a very poor financial awareness. Stock market and forex are not developed here at all. The majority of people are not aware that it is possible to earn passive income, they don't want to learn.
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November 23, 2021, 04:05:34 AM
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https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/11/18/britains-inequalities-are-spelt-out-in-its-surnames

A recent research presented in the article above indicates that
Quote
most people don't move
, geographically speaking. It is curious how most people are (randomly?) born somewhere and they tend to look for the opportunities to make a living on that place, do not go too far or think that they actually enjoy the freedom of deciding to go to anywhere else in the world unless they have serious pressing motivation (hunger, crime,...).

Reading this, I could not help but think that people also "don't move" in monetary terms. They are born in a certain region and they do not think that their money might very well better in some other form (e.g. bitcoin).
More like they don't move out of their comfort zone. They do know that their money might be used better somewhere else, but they just don't do want to do it because they are either very lazy and comfortable with what they have, or they just don't want to take any risk at all. Look at the media. I am sure they read a lot of stuffs about bitcoin on their social media platform and this scares them away from investing their money in crypto currencies. I am sure if crypto currency investments were risk free, every one would "start moving".
They afraid to take the risk since they doesn't know if they can earn something good in return that's why many doesn't want to get out on their comfort zone and they mostly settle on what they earn that's why we see a slow progress unto them. But if many can handle those things regarding on what they are afraid of for sure there efforts will be paid of in the long run. But I'm sure once those person who's afraid to take the risk will step up once they are already earning decent amount from what they are doing today.
and to succeed in this market you must be a "Risk Taker" and this is what they are missing , living in your comfort zone
makes you find no great opportunity but only those come what may.
When i was new in this world i also felt that same way but when i start earning and also when i got involved in Gambling here ? there
i learn how to risk and invest in the riskiest that i can find and the return is amazing .

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November 23, 2021, 05:33:59 AM
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Often the reason is not that they want to grab the best bite not doing anything, but that they don't even think about the best bite. In my country for decades, people have been taught not to stick their heads out and be content with what they have, often the smallest. If you suddenly wanted more, then you concedered to be not happy with life and not having respect for others, because you should not be different in anything. Therefore, a huge number of people simply do not think that it is possible to somehow change the conditions of their life, and many of those who do think are afraid to bring it to life.

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November 23, 2021, 09:44:58 AM
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There is no Opportunity in those who want only to take a bite in the food on their plate and don't wanna explore in some place where
offering best foods.


Often the reason is not that they want to grab the best bite not doing anything, but that they don't even think about the best bite. In my country for decades, people have been taught not to stick their heads out and be content with what they have, often the smallest. If you suddenly wanted more, then you concedered to be not happy with life and not having respect for others, because you should not be different in anything. Therefore, a huge number of people simply do not think that it is possible to somehow change the conditions of their life, and many of those who do think are afraid to bring it to life.
People tend not to move because they are fearful and are afraid of taking risk. So they continue living their life on what they are used to have and not coming out from their comfort zone. And i think having this kind of attitude will no longer lead to a progressive life.

However, their attitude towards their monetary terms may just only be the same. They are afraid to take risk into some new investments because they feel like they will only lose, so they prefer to keep their money without any profits being yield. People like this will never really reach huge achievements in life as they tend to be more satisfied on the things they only see around.

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November 23, 2021, 10:05:17 AM
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I typically prefer to move like nomads until I find somewhere fairly stable and right to settle in. It's hard to find such place in the world hence the need to keep moving/searching.
That's basically how I began to use Bitcoin in cyberspace. I saw shiny opportunities but the risk discouraged me.

Just searching for the right environment... One of the worst thing to do is to move for money

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November 23, 2021, 02:17:16 PM
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Some people don't want to improve. They prefer calm life without challenging changes in their life. They don't see opportunities, they consider it to be fraud. Many people in my county have a very poor financial awareness. Stock market and forex are not developed here at all. The majority of people are not aware that it is possible to earn passive income, they don't want to learn.
More precisely, many people need improvements in a quiet and stable space, rather than demanding immediate challenges to complete transformation, the transition and collision of fields makes them worry about many issues such as age, ability to learn as well as employment opportunities, keeping the same old areas as well as core values ​​and less volatility makes them more secure about the future and easier to adapt after innovations. This perception is similar to investing in the stock and crypto markets, forced to learn a lot but in return are vague opportunities, afraid to move not because they are lazy, afraid to move just because they do not see the future

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November 23, 2021, 09:37:18 PM
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I know this isn't exactly the topic at hand here but I seem to move every 2-3 years and it's the worst thing ever lol.  I hate living in a big city that requires you to have to move so often for so many different things.  Anyways, I have moved from my home state of Illinois to Florida (americas weirdest state) which was quite far away. I never understood people who were afraid to try and move and change things up.  I did end up moving back to my home state, but it was more for family health reasons (well and Florida is filled with crazies).
The only reason that people are not moving and are not making changes because they always think that big opportunities are already in their homeland. When in fact there are other great opportunities that we can found and will create more positive changes in our lives once we decide to move and create changes. Although not in general, but for some people who always stick to what they call their only home, maybe they have their own reasons like health or maybe family matters wherein their presence should always be around.
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November 23, 2021, 09:44:06 PM
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I know this isn't exactly the topic at hand here but I seem to move every 2-3 years and it's the worst thing ever lol.  I hate living in a big city that requires you to have to move so often for so many different things.  Anyways, I have moved from my home state of Illinois to Florida (americas weirdest state) which was quite far away. I never understood people who were afraid to try and move and change things up.  I did end up moving back to my home state, but it was more for family health reasons (well and Florida is filled with crazies).
The only reason that people are not moving and are not making changes because they always think that big opportunities are already in their homeland. When in fact there are other great opportunities that we can found and will create more positive changes in our lives once we decide to move and create changes. Although not in general, but for some people who always stick to what they call their only home, maybe they have their own reasons like health or maybe family matters wherein their presence should always be around.
For people who do reside on thirdworld countries then their main aim is to get outside of their country and find a decent job and considering that currency value is much more worth then they would really
be seeing for these situations to be considerable and making their lives to be more better compared if they would really just go and work which they dont see any possible achievements or improvements in life which i couldnt really blame them off on ending up on having that decision even though its risky but they are much pretty aware of that.

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November 23, 2021, 10:47:52 PM
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Some people choose to stay or either find a way to move to a different country in order to improve their lives but some do like to stay unless it's not comfortable enough then they really have to move. So, if a person is comfortable enough to of using fiat than crypto then it's their choice but I think they might have missed the opportunity already or they just don't want to.

Well, crypto is not for everyone if they like to live with their fiat hidden in a bank then it's their personal choice maybe they were born rich already that's why they are comfortable with using fiat but for those someone who struggle for everyday life in order to prepare a good meal each day, they choose to gamble or risk using crypto but with the right research their investment will soon give them a freedom of using their own money without someone controlling it.

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Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.

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November 24, 2021, 09:23:33 AM
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Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.

Some people are moving out of their comfort zone for a quite short time and yes it is because of the monetary system, looking or searching for a better opportunities however if we were going to consider the availability of the opportunities to their place I think people will tend not to move really. As I've observed some of the people who used to moves for a quite long time only wanted to earn and save enough for their retirement fund so that they can go back to place where they came from because like what we used to heard "there's no place like home".
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Sometimes, people are going to move, but the condition may not let it be. Sometimes, it is surely going to move, but in fact, they can't. and they are still here on monetary system.
And we cannot ignore or avoid this.
We really know how monetary system is being here around us in the world, related to not only about the rules and also financial system and regulation, but widely more than it.
Maybe they are getting trapped in the regulations and financial system that makes them can not move because we know much reason from people who tell us that they are hard to move because of the situation around them. But if they have a chance to and are forced to move, they will try to move, no matter the consequences, because that is our nature. When someone is forced because of situational around them or something that they must do, they will start to move without thinking much about what will happen to them.

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November 24, 2021, 04:25:04 PM
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If we are to add some spice to the topic of the thread, humans hardly move. Basing our thoughts on the fact that, we change location for a livelihood somewhere might suggest some form of movement but then, if we tend to look at where we call home and where we rest even after we are gone (dead), you would understand that, we don't move. Like the research on names, it's always closer to base, to origin and so do every individual or most at the very least.

So long as, your movement isn't permanent, you still have a course to look towards your place of origin for a home, how then can you completely claim to have moved. You never move, when a part of you is staying!
If we take a look at history we are going to see the main reason why people move from one geographical area to another has to do most of the time with some kind of crisis happening on their homeland, like a war, famine, lack of economic opportunities and other similar reasons, so extrapolating like what the OP paxmao is doing in economic terms this means that people will not change their monetary habits unless some kind of crisis hits them, and at least in my experience this is the only way I have seen consistent changes on the economic habits of people.
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November 24, 2021, 06:18:28 PM
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I typically prefer to move like nomads until I find somewhere fairly stable and right to settle in. It's hard to find such place in the world hence the need to keep moving/searching.
That's basically how I began to use Bitcoin in cyberspace. I saw shiny opportunities but the risk discouraged me.

Just searching for the right environment... One of the worst thing to do is to move for money
How do you pay for moving around like that? I mean if I wanted to go to vacation let alone stay there, I would have to pay maybe 6 month salary for living in Europe for just 1 month. Maybe you have some income or some amount of money from before, or you have a skill that allows you to move around like that, I don't know who you are so I can't make any calculations with the data I have.

However, I know myself and I know that there is no possible way for me to move to a "better" nation, it just doesn't work like that, since my work is not something I need to be even there to do that means I can freelance it and that makes it cheaper and can't afford to live in Europe or anywhere like that. Since, life is getting more expensive even where I live which is normally known as a cheap place, I may end up with living in a European nation one day in the future not because I got richer but I would be poor even here so might as well be poor somewhere else but moving around is still quite costly and I can't afford to do that so far.

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