If the signature campaings are removed from the forum, will you stay or leave?

[Rikafip]

This looks like a honeypot. I'm sure everyone who chose the first option will be banned, and everyone who chose the second option will be red-trusted for being dishonest.

Why?  I voted for the second option and I’ve never been part of a signature campaign and can’t see any circumstance in which I would.

I don't think that suchmoon was serious about that honeypot thing, but one thing implied there is true: ~95% (pure guesstimate based from what I saw in these 2 years on the forum) of the people that are wearing signature are either lying to themselves or others (probably both) if they claim to keep the  same activity regardless of signature campaigns.

Hell, majority of people adjust their posting habits based on the signature campaign rules and now imagine what would happen if there is no financial incentive to keep posting day after day, without never taking a break. Taking a break here in majority of cases equals to being kicked out of campaign and no one wants that.

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[UserU]

I think there are plenty who have similar opinion, but they prefer to stay silent to avoid getting shat on   

Yup, and we could pretty much say the same thing about the new forum software as well.

Deep down many are longing for mobile responsiveness, notification bell and tipping feature

[TheBeardedBaby]

This looks like a honeypot. I'm sure everyone who chose the first option will be banned, and everyone who chose the second option will be red-trusted for being dishonest.

Oh, NO!!

I am feel stupid, I clicked the first one without reading properly. I saw the word "stay" on the second and third line" and totally didn't notice I clicked "leave" for the first option until the poll showed the results.
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... lol

[BlackHatCoiner]

I joined this forum in March 2020, when the first quarantine started and I got myself a wonderful read of an introduction of how Bitcoin works. I'm the kind of guy that makes a lot of questions; the first of my threads speak for themselves.

The responses I got really helped. I fell down the rabbit hole and saw another world. I think that I'll devote a part of my life to this forum and to Bitcoin that gave me this opportunity.

I guess, that I'd stay, but not as active as I am today. What to say when there's incentive in the middle?

[suchmoon]

You're exaggerating

I might have been, yes.

Point is, with anonymous polls I think answers tend to be more wishful than factual. On average. Not everyone is necessarily or consciously dishonest.

I don't think that suchmoon was serious about that honeypot thing

I used to wear a big red "/s" in my signature back in the day and I'd probably go back to doing that if I'm no longer in a campaign. Some people still take me too seriously after all these years

[OgNasty]

This looks like a honeypot. I'm sure everyone who chose the first option will be banned, and everyone who chose the second option will be red-trusted for being dishonest.

Why?  I voted for the second option and I’ve never been part of a signature campaign and can’t see any circumstance in which I would.

I don't think that suchmoon was serious about that honeypot thing, but one thing implied there is true: ~95% (pure guesstimate based from what I saw in these 2 years on the forum) of the people that are wearing signature are either lying to themselves or others (probably both) if they claim to keep the  same activity regardless of signature campaigns.

Hell, majority of people adjust their posting habits based on the signature campaign rules and now imagine what would happen if there is no financial incentive to keep posting day after day, without never taking a break. Taking a break here in majority of cases equals to being kicked out of campaign and no one wants that.

As a result of being in a signature campaign for a gambling operation I have moved my witty sports commentary from NBA message boards to bitcointalk.  It doesn't really provide any relevant information for this site, but it's a conversation I'd have anyway, so I figure I might as well have it here and get paid while promoting a service I appreciate.  At the same time it inflates the views here and makes the site more relevant on the internet.  I guess it's a win-win for everyone in that regard.  The annoying thing to me is when trolls who have no idea what they're talking about chime in on actual Bitcoin activity with nonsense to inflate their post count.  We see way too much of that... 

[Welsh]

I've never really understood why there's such a stigma against signature campaigns or advertising on the forum via your signature. Signatures can be disabled, and while yeah there are definitely spammers, they should be reported to both the moderators, and the signature campaign manager. Hopefully they're handled appropriately from both points of view.

However, the vast majority of users at least within the Bitcoin section advertising for Bitcoin paying campaigns are pretty decently run, with only a few exceptions. The problem lies in the altcoin section which is predominately paying in tokens which aren't worth anything at the time of signing up, let alone a few months down the line.

Though, there's definitely a lot of reports handled when they're reported, and several moderators seem to skim the section looking for trouble users. So, despite the altcoin section getting over run, there's a conscious, and relentless approach to dealing with it.

[pugman]

Most will leave regardless, eventually. If the forum's administration continues to stay the way it is, I don't expect things to become better here. The OGs already left, when sig campaigns came around.

Think about this: Lauda left, Lutpin is ?, Zepher died(fuck.), same for Bruno(RIP), idk where escrow, tradefortress, or half of the OG ogs even are. Bitcointalk is no longer the iconic place it once was, it doesn't feel like the same forum where the likes of Hal Finney used to go around and speak with the community, hell even Satoshi was in the same forum; he fucking created the forum and now its a shitpile if anything.

I used to read like 50-60 threads a day now there is barely anything worthwhile to read, the only generally good posts I see are from people with the chipmixer signature, and a few others who talk in the Meta/Rep/Service Discussion/Economics/Speculation board.  Am I wrong?

[Pmalek]

I haven't seen an alternative to the forum that I really like, so I don't see a reason to leave. I am sure that I would be less active, but you would still see me around regularly. I don't like browsing crypto blogs and websites either so where do I go? There is only one German blog that I visit occasionally and that's it. I really don't like the Twitter/Discord/Telegram atmosphere with memes, lols, and whatnot. I feel like more effort is required to write decent to good posts here than what we have on social media.

Signatures won't be banned because theymos knows that's the start of the end.   

[Coyster]

If I'm to be really honest, if signature campaigns are removed and I get busy in real life with other things that could prolly earn me some more money, I'll have little or no time to come here to make posts, I would be an occasional poster, that doesn't mean that I'm in the forum just for the money, cause I really find here interesting and educative, and earning somewhat complements it all, thus if that incentive is no longer there and I have a substitute means of making extra money in real life, there is no way I'll forfeit that to post on the forum frequently, I'd prolly be more of a reader and post only when I actually have the time to construct something.

Having said that, I'll not leave the forum for anything, my frequency in posting could reduce, but to totally leave the forum seems somewhat impossible right now, maybe sometime along the line I could have a different idea/mindset.

[Welsh]

Most will leave regardless, eventually. If the forum's administration continues to stay the way it is, I don't expect things to become better here. The OGs already left, when sig campaigns came around.

Think about this: Lauda left, Lutpin is ?, Zepher died(fuck.), same for Bruno(RIP), idk where escrow, tradefortress, or half of the OG ogs even are. Bitcointalk is no longer the iconic place it once was, it doesn't feel like the same forum where the likes of Hal Finney used to go around and speak with the community, hell even Satoshi was in the same forum; he fucking created the forum and now its a shitpile if anything.

Quite a few donators are still active, as in they're at least logging into the forum from time to time, although don't seem to participate in the discussions much. At the end of the day, if you've been around long enough, you'll see repeated content, that's just natural. We continuously have new users signing up, and asking basic questions, because they are the same type of questions we might have wanted to ask several years ago.

I do think this forum is better managed than a lot of the others on the internet, though you could potentially call me biased on that. I know at least there's staff here that are actually passionate about the forum, whereas other forums they might be doing it for the illusion of power or just getting paid. At least, most of the moderators I've had a chat with are passionate about how things run around here.

Of course, certain areas of the forum are less than ideal. I mean the Altcoins section is in particular pretty bad, however I dedicate a lot of time myself scouring that place, and moderating there, as do a few others. Some days I'm taking hundreds of actions in that section alone, and I'm also one of the patrollers. That's ignoring the fact that there's several others likely doing the same thing.

Signatures won't be banned because theymos knows that's the start of the end.   

I do believe he's alluded to liking the idea of the forum having a sort of eco system. Though, I might be talking through my arse there as I can't actually find it, but that might be because I'm not searching the correct phrases used. I think theymos said something along the lines of liking that it's a thing, but if it becomes to much of a problem would have to look at dealing with that

[_BlackStar]

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I do think this forum is better managed than a lot of the others on the internet, though you could potentially call me biased on that. I know at least there's staff here that are actually passionate about the forum, whereas other forums they might be doing it for the illusion of power or just getting paid. At least, most of the moderators I've had a chat with are passionate about how things run around here.

Of course, certain areas of the forum are less than ideal. I mean the Altcoins section is in particular pretty bad, however I dedicate a lot of time myself scouring that place, and moderating there, as do a few others. Some days I'm taking hundreds of actions in that section alone, and I'm also one of the patrollers. That's ignoring the fact that there's several others likely doing the same thing.

This is a very nice acknowledgment from a staff member of this forum and it looks like you are one of the very enthusiastic staff for this forum. I don't know who the staff who handled my hundreds of reports to this day are, but whoever he is then I have to thank him for his dedication in this forum.

I enjoyed my journey on this forum, using signature, using avatar and engaging in many interesting discussions. I don't know how to reply to all of them if not for the quality of the posts and my desire to contribute. Even if one day the forum remove the signature campaign then I will choose to stay even if it reduces my activity a bit.

[urro]

Stop using a forum because of the signature option seems a little exagerated. Except if the user only wants to show the signature...

Btw, i miss the userbars;
https://varievo.com/wp-content/uploads/Userbars.png

[nakamura12]

I did join signature campaign for extra money and if it is removed then there's still another way to earn money with bitcoin. I have joined many discussions and I quite like having conversations or discussion with other forum users which help me learn more and more until now plus some bitcoin news, price discussions and more. Nothing beats having meaningful cryptocurrency related discussions/topics.

[vapourminer]

as i have sigs disabled forum wide, i probably wouldnt even notice except for the avatars on some posts might change.

[KingsDen]

Personally, I will be here but will likely visit 3times a week.
But generally, bitcointalk might be deserted except for some users who have been here for years and have developed mutual understanding and affection.
At any time in a project, there must be something driving or motivating it. At this very stage of Bitcointalk forum, it is the signature and bounty campaigns that is driving it.
1. It is the signature that makes many to appear online even against their wish in order to complete their task.
2. It is the signature that makes people become quality posters, owing to the word counts requirement of signature campaigns.
3. It is the signature that makes many see reasons to need merit to rank up.
4. If signature campaign is halted in the forum, the purpose of the merit system will be defeated. And other things  go wrong aswell.

[UserU]

Btw, i miss the userbars;

I still see them on some forums, and that's a piece of history right there.

[Victorik]

For me, I am here to learn. I have learnt a lot for the time I have spent here. So, I will still be here, even if the signature campaign is removed.

[LoyceV]

I am here to learn.

Don't lie! You've posted the word "Twitter" 1841 times, and the word "Facebook" 1337 times. That's more than 7 times per post on average, I didn't even bother counting the Telegram links and shitcoin addresses you've posted to support money grabbing ICO scams.

[tertius993]

as i have sigs disabled forum wide, i probably wouldnt even notice except for the avatars on some posts might change.

I have to confess I didn’t even realise that was possible.  Brilliant!