JJG’s Outline of Bitcoin Investment Ideas

[hmbdofficial]

You are totally right, there are so many people who will tell you they waiting for the Dip, and the end the Dip will come and they would buy just very little.

Should they go and steal or put themselves in tight positions financially in order to buy a bigger amount of bitcoin, is that what you want? That amount you are considering as little might actually be a big amount for another investor. Let’s not put pressure on other people or make them look like their efforts are not worth it. Remember little by little is how we grow our portfolio, especially we plebs that don’t have hedge funds.

Don't get it wrong mate, his statement never point at anybody to put themselves on pressure to buy bigger amount of bitcoin, but rather a better and easier strategy to buy bitcoin at a subsidies price. which can be achieved regardless of how small they may be earning. all he said was that instead of waiting and trying to save up to buy the dip, it will profit them more in the long run if they use that money to DCA.

you were already making it sound like its an emotional blackmail here. i think if one is not ready for bitcoin yet, it is advice that they work on their cashflow first before deciding to start acquiring bitcoin and that is why he was specific on buying only with discretionary income.  

[Rockstarguy]

You are totally right, there are so many people who will tell you they waiting for the Dip, and the end the Dip will come and they would buy just very little.

Should they go and steal or put themselves in tight positions financially in order to buy a bigger amount of bitcoin, is that what you want? That amount you are considering as little might actually be a big amount for another investor. Let’s not put pressure on other people or make them look like their efforts are not worth it. Remember little by little is how we grow our portfolio, especially we plebs that don’t have hedge funds.

It is not even a matter of how much you buy; what we are considering is the time factor and the frequency with which one would buy bitcoin after they wait to buy at the dip. Waiting to buy bitcoin at the dip is never a smart move. In bitcoin investment, the amount of bitcoin you buy is not all that matters; what really matters is how often you accumulate bitcoin, and the amount of bitcoin you choose to buy is your choice as long as you can afford it. However, using the DCA strategy is the most important thing to make the investment a reasonable one.

The reason why waiting is never a good consideration:

-First, you waste your precious time, and during all this time, if buying had taken place, you should have accumulated some amount of bitcoin.

-How long can one keep waiting for the dip to buy bitcoin? Because when you are so focused on the dip, you will definitely have a dip that you consider to be good for buying bitcoin and it will cost you waiting.

[Loyang]

To be successful with Bitcoin, you should adopt a sustainable deposit strategy. There is no need to compare investing with watching videos or playing games. To be successful, you should be as patient as possible and refrain from putting pressure on yourself. Some investors, when they are new, make overly emotional decisions and buy Bitcoin with the entire available funds. At the beginner adopt a slow strategy to buy Bitcoin and be regular.

Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

If the Bitcoin market was under someone's control, then we could say that for this reason we can be successful from Bitcoin investment, but the Bitcoin market is not under anyone's control. However, if a person can hold it for a long time, then his chances of success are much higher, compared to short-term investment. To hold it for a long time, a person needs patience, discipline, proper planning, knowledge, etc.

[cyberninja2]

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Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

Those who assume that investing is guaranteed to succeed will experience discomfort in achieving the desired results. I believe that if you place too much hope in investing, you won't be able to anticipate what you'll receive.

This movement has caused many people to be less aggressive in making purchases, so this may be a good lesson for us in placing our hopes on investment success. This is natural, as market cycles can often deviate from our expectations.

[SPIDERMAN008]

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Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

Those who assume that investing is guaranteed to succeed will experience discomfort in achieving the desired results. I believe that if you place too much hope in investing, you won't be able to anticipate what you'll receive.

This movement has caused many people to be less aggressive in making purchases, so this may be a good lesson for us in placing our hopes on investment success. This is natural, as market cycles can often deviate from our expectations.

There is no problem in investing in Bitcoin just for expectation of profit . But new investors should not change their decisions because of expectation. Because the market will not move according to our expectations buying aggressiveness should be based not on the market, but on own financial circumstances. And expectation can cause an investor to face losses in different ways, if he changes his Bitcoin buying strategy. If the bull market expectation is high, he can become overaggressive. Again if the expected pump does not come, he can get disappointed and stop buying Bitcoin regularly. So having expectation is logical but if it destroys the mindset of long term investment then there is a high possibility of loss.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

You are totally right, there are so many people who will tell you they waiting for the Dip, and the end the Dip will come and they would buy just very little.

Should they go and steal or put themselves in tight positions financially in order to buy a bigger amount of bitcoin, is that what you want? That amount you are considering as little might actually be a big amount for another investor. Let’s not put pressure on other people or make them look like their efforts are not worth it. Remember little by little is how we grow our portfolio, especially we plebs that don’t have hedge funds.

Did you really understand the context of the post you quoted?

Are you supporting gamblers who despite waiting for the dip could not execute a good buy when they took preference to gambling on the price rather than investing?

If these guys who had discretionary income, but chose to gamble on the price had focused more on DCA and consistent buys, they would have been better off. The illustration in the post you quoted further states the importance of buying straight away instead of unnecessarily delaying your investment and ending up with almost nothing on the long-run. It is such a waste of time and buying opportunities

Let me help you with an example Justbillywitt with respect to what the person yo quoted meant.

Let's assume a person has $100 weekly discretionary income and he could comfortably put $40 weekly into bitcoin investment, $40 into backup funds and $20 for discretionary consumption, if the person had invested consistently for 8 months before the dip that the second person took action, the person should have invested around $1280 into bitcoin and had backup funds of $1280. Now can you compare his performance to another scenario where the investor was unwilling to take action immediately, and at the said dip price was only able to invest $150 or at most $200 into bitcoin without any backup funds in place? Of course not.
Another bad thing is that such an investors who waits for the dip might sell immediately the price appreciated a bit for short-terms profits since he's used to trading practices.

DCA beats the waiting strategy anytime and would always be more effective. Guys should be more actionable with buying bitcoin and choose consistency instead of waiting.

[BluebloodCXVI]

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Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

Those who assume that investing is guaranteed to succeed will experience discomfort in achieving the desired results. I believe that if you place too much hope in investing, you won't be able to anticipate what you'll receive.

This movement has caused many people to be less aggressive in making purchases, so this may be a good lesson for us in placing our hopes on investment success. This is natural, as market cycles can often deviate from our expectations.

There is no problem in investing in Bitcoin just for expectation of profit . But new investors should not change their decisions because of expectation. Because the market will not move according to our expectations buying aggressiveness should be based not on the market, but on own financial circumstances. And expectation can cause an investor to face losses in different ways, if he changes his Bitcoin buying strategy. If the bull market expectation is high, he can become overaggressive. Again if the expected pump does not come, he can get disappointed and stop buying Bitcoin regularly. So having expectation is logical but if it destroys the mindset of long term investment then there is a high possibility of loss.

There’s nothing wrong if an investor has expectations of their bitcoin increasing in value, it’s a normal human behavior.
The only time it can become a problem is if the person is allowing those expectations to influence their financial and investment decisions.

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.
And if the expected pump doesn’t later happen and they become discouraged enough to stop buying bitcoin, then they are making the same mistake in the opposite direction.

Market conditions can certainly influence how a person chooses to deploy their money into buying bitcoin, but it is their financial predicament that should determine how much that they can sustainably put into bitcoin.

[Grease5000]

To be successful with Bitcoin, you should adopt a sustainable deposit strategy. There is no need to compare investing with watching videos or playing games. To be successful, you should be as patient as possible and refrain from putting pressure on yourself. Some investors, when they are new, make overly emotional decisions and buy Bitcoin with the entire available funds. At the beginner adopt a slow strategy to buy Bitcoin and be regular.

Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

If the Bitcoin market was under someone's control, then we could say that for this reason we can be successful from Bitcoin investment, but the Bitcoin market is not under anyone's control. However, if a person can hold it for a long time, then his chances of success are much higher, compared to short-term investment. To hold it for a long time, a person needs patience, discipline, proper planning, knowledge, etc.

I agree with your points, especially the part about not putting yourself under pressure. For me. I see bitcoin accumulation as a long term savings and investment journey,  and not something I should rush because I want quick returns. Rather I prefer using my discretionary income and buying consistently, using the DCA strategy whether price dip or pump, instead of putting all my available money into Bitcoin at once.

Mostly for beginners,  starting small, can  helps you  learn how the market behaves  and using.the DCA can help prevent wiputting too much pressure on your finances. For me, consistency, patience, and having a clear plan are more important than trying to catch the perfect entry price.

[Sim_card]

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.

In no condition should a long term bitcoin investor invest over aggressively whether there is a dip or not because he is only gambling and not investing. This is because over aggressive buying means using above your discretionary income to invest and when your needs arises, you will sell at loss especially, if the price of bitcoin is below your entry point.

Aggressive buying is good but you have to do it based on your own financial scenario playing around you at that moment to avoid overdoing it. Also you don't buy aggressive based on bitcoin price but based on your pocket.

[Abbatty]

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.

In no condition should a long term bitcoin investor invest over aggressively whether there is a dip or not because he is only gambling and not investing. This is because over aggressive buying means using above your discretionary income to invest and when your needs arises, you will sell at loss especially, if the price of bitcoin is below your entry point.

Aggressive buying is good but you have to do it based on your own financial scenario playing around you at that moment to avoid overdoing it. Also you don't buy aggressive based on bitcoin price but based on your pocket.

Not all aggressive buying is a gamble, Especially in a case of Linpsum. You said it right, we should never allow determine our aggressiveness in the market but instead it should be determined by our available discretionary income. It can also be determine in a case where we receive financial gifts, winning of lotto and other so many more.

We should never go into aggressive buying just because the market is going Dip, people who do that are always tempted to use more than their discretionary income. So yes, buying aggressively is good but it should be with discretionary income, because at the end, it still bitcoin and nothing is promised.

[cocadalcan]

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.

In no condition should a long term bitcoin investor invest over aggressively whether there is a dip or not because he is only gambling and not investing. This is because over aggressive buying means using above your discretionary income to invest and when your needs arises, you will sell at loss especially, if the price of bitcoin is below your entry point.

Aggressive buying is good but you have to do it based on your own financial scenario playing around you at that moment to avoid overdoing it. Also you don't buy aggressive based on bitcoin price but based on your pocket.

I agree with your advice not to buy Bitcoin aggressively under any circumstances. The amount of funds invested beyond the discretionary income will be at a certain risk. Many types of sentiments work in short term trading because there is a tendency among traders to get high profits. Long term investors should try to be consistent and regular through the DCA method instead of investing aggressively. Buying aggressively may mean that he will not continue long term investment and may sell at a loss for fear of losing his capital. When the regular price is relatively low compared to the buy price, a kind of fear works among investors and most weak-minded/newbie investors sell at a loss which is one of the main reasons for their losses.

[Crakryptvest]

Should they go and steal or put themselves in tight positions financially in order to buy a bigger amount of bitcoin, is that what you want? That amount you are considering as little might actually be a big amount for another investor. Let’s not put pressure on other people or make them look like their efforts are not worth it. Remember little by little is how we grow our portfolio, especially we plebs that don’t have hedge funds.

For Bitcoin investment, acumulation is strictly with what we can afford which is our discreationary income, anything outside that, might it's consequences attached, we know that quantity is very important and it makes much difference on a long-term, but we can go above our means, provide that we are consistent with what our discreationary income, we can grow a reason amount of Bitcoin Bitcoin portfolio overtime.

I think it is just a matter of time, investor's discreationary income may increase in the process which means more stashes of Bitcoin can be added to any investor portfolio, however, I'm against anything that could lead to pressure in the course of investing in Bitcoin as it could make us to do what's not right.

[Sexylizzy2813]

Not all aggressive buying is a gamble, Especially in a case of Linpsum. You said it right, we should never allow determine our aggressiveness in the market but instead it should be determined by our available discretionary income. It can also be determine in a case where we receive financial gifts, winning of lotto and other so many more.

We should never go into aggressive buying just because the market is going Dip, people who do that are always tempted to use more than their discretionary income. So yes, buying aggressively is good but it should be with discretionary income, because at the end, it still bitcoin and nothing is promised.

We should channel that to greed of making it high as our friends have because when we see how our friends or any one we know has gotten it right we tend to chase it hard just to meet up, is annoying to think that way and I like what you said, "it's still Bitcoin", but never forget that investing in Bitcoin many people see it as a means to get rich faster, I also had that thought but over time it becomes something different whenever I that thinking comes in my head, like they always say, slow and steady does the magic, we can't be faster than our shadow. Whenever a man is desperate especially in getting a situation or a problem solved he doesn't think straight that why the discretionary income you talked about doesn't seem important until the problem is resolved, we as humans allow pressure to take over us and when we act under pressure the outcome doesn't play out well, no matter how dip the market is we should always use our head while investing.

[ASloveapg]

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Investment method never gives you the certainty of success. Investment method is the purchasing method, by which you continue to buy continuously or buy in small amounts. Even if a person uses the best investment method, the success of his investment is not certain.

Those who assume that investing is guaranteed to succeed will experience discomfort in achieving the desired results. I believe that if you place too much hope in investing, you won't be able to anticipate what you'll receive.

This movement has caused many people to be less aggressive in making purchases, so this may be a good lesson for us in placing our hopes on investment success. This is natural, as market cycles can often deviate from our expectations.

It is not reasonable to assume that the desired results will be guaranteed in any investment. If such expectations are created that we will definitely get a certain result within a certain period of time, it is natural to be disappointed when the market does not move according to expectations. The past history of an asset does not guarantee the same results in the future. It is difficult to say for sure in advance when the market will rise. Therefore, as well as considering the potential good aspects of an investment, we must also take into account the potential risks and bad situations.

It is within our own control to be responsible in advance about how much money we will invest, what money we will invest, and how we will decide in adverse situations.

[Gost ms]

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.

In no condition should a long term bitcoin investor invest over aggressively whether there is a dip or not because he is only gambling and not investing. This is because over aggressive buying means using above your discretionary income to invest and when your needs arises, you will sell at loss especially, if the price of bitcoin is below your entry point.

Aggressive buying is good but you have to do it based on your own financial scenario playing around you at that moment to avoid overdoing it. Also you don't buy aggressive based on bitcoin price but based on your pocket.

I agree with your advice not to buy Bitcoin aggressively under any circumstances. The amount of funds invested beyond the discretionary income will be at a certain risk. Many types of sentiments work in short term trading because there is a tendency among traders to get high profits. Long term investors should try to be consistent and regular through the DCA method instead of investing aggressively. Buying aggressively may mean that he will not continue long term investment and may sell at a loss for fear of losing his capital. When the regular price is relatively low compared to the buy price, a kind of fear works among investors and most weak-minded/newbie investors sell at a loss which is one of the main reasons for their losses.

Being aggressive is sustainable but being overly aggressive is not sustainable. If a person can continue to buy as aggressively as possible without going overboard for years. But yes, that person needs to find out how aggressive he can be or buy aggressively without going overboard. Being overly aggressive in anything is not good.

But yes, there are many who become aggressive without considering anything and without considering any kind of financial situation and how aggressive they can be, of course those people are making a big mistake and they are putting their investment at risk.

[Lembo69]

Being aggressive is sustainable but being overly aggressive is not sustainable. If a person can continue to buy as aggressively as possible without going overboard for years. But yes, that person needs to find out how aggressive he can be or buy aggressively without going overboard. Being overly aggressive in anything is not good.

Yes, I agree that being aggressive can be beneficial, but excessive aggression can lead to losses. An investor adopts an aggressive approach because they aim for success and are willing to take risks. However, those who become overly aggressive eventually put all their capital at risk. While aggression is good, it is best exercised with an understanding of the market. Those who take such risks without grasping market conditions are essentially gambling with luck. That said, I would not say that aggressive investing is inherently bad; it is a good strategy, provided it does not become excessive or turn into a habitual practice. To ensure sustainable investment, one must strictly adhere to all investment principles and guidelines.

[Queen uloma]

If someone expects a bull market to happen and they suddenly start to become overly aggressive with their buying, that means that they arr letting a prediction override their actual financial situation.

In no condition should a long term bitcoin investor invest over aggressively whether there is a dip or not because he is only gambling and not investing. This is because over aggressive buying means using above your discretionary income to invest and when your needs arises, you will sell at loss especially, if the price of bitcoin is below your entry point.

Aggressive buying is good but you have to do it based on your own financial scenario playing around you at that moment to avoid overdoing it. Also you don't buy aggressive based on bitcoin price but based on your pocket.

I agree with your advice not to buy Bitcoin aggressively under any circumstances. The amount of funds invested beyond the discretionary income will be at a certain risk. Many types of sentiments work in short term trading because there is a tendency among traders to get high profits. Long term investors should try to be consistent and regular through the DCA method instead of investing aggressively. Buying aggressively may mean that he will not continue long term investment and may sell at a loss for fear of losing his capital. When the regular price is relatively low compared to the buy price, a kind of fear works among investors and most weak-minded/newbie investors sell at a loss which is one of the main reasons for their losses.

Being aggressive is sustainable but being overly aggressive is not sustainable. If a person can continue to buy as aggressively as possible without going overboard for years. But yes, that person needs to find out how aggressive he can be or buy aggressively without going overboard. Being overly aggressive in anything is not good.

But yes, there are many who become aggressive without considering anything and without considering any kind of financial situation and how aggressive they can be, of course those people are making a big mistake and they are putting their investment at risk.

I agree that being aggressive isn’t a bad thing, but over aggressive can ruin everything. A person is suppose to know how much they can consistently invest without it affecting their lives, responsibilities and their bills  If you can afford to hold it for years then your strategy is more maintainable.

The mistake many people make is buying aggressively without even thinking about their financial situation. Investment isn’t suppose to make someone to be under pressure. It’s better to know your limit before increasing your buying.

[Tonimez]

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I agree that being aggressive isn’t a bad thing, but over aggressive can ruin everything. A person is suppose to know how much they can consistently invest without it affecting their lives, responsibilities and their bills  If you can afford to hold it for years then your strategy is more maintainable.

The mistake many people make is buying aggressively without even thinking about their financial situation. Investment isn’t suppose to make someone to be under pressure. It’s better to know your limit before increasing your buying.

As an investor, it is very important to think about sustenance first even before going into bitcoin accumulation because it will help you moderate your actions as you buy. So many people make the mistake of buying bitcoin aggressively simply because they don't want to miss a particular price they think is cheap, forgetting it's long-term effect.

Buying bitcoin outside your Discretionary income should be discouraged because that's what makes people to invest with the money they are supposed to use for their basic responsibilities and at the end, they run into financial crisis. Investing in bitcoin should not be a do or die affair and if actually you plan to HODL for a long term, you won't mind the dips because you will understand that you still have a very long time to accumulate by DCA. Any aggressive buys without proper planning and provision for emergency funds will ruin your portfolio when emergency comes up. So it's not only about taking care of your basic responsibilities, it's also about planning for emergencies and unforeseen circumstances.

[Gragebox]

Being aggressive is sustainable but being overly aggressive is not sustainable. If a person can continue to buy as aggressively as possible without going overboard for years. But yes, that person needs to find out how aggressive he can be or buy aggressively without going overboard. Being overly aggressive in anything is not good.

Yes, I agree that being aggressive can be beneficial, but excessive aggression can lead to losses. An investor adopts an aggressive approach because they aim for success and are willing to take risks. However, those who become overly aggressive eventually put all their capital at risk. While aggression is good, it is best exercised with an understanding of the market. Those who take such risks without grasping market conditions are essentially gambling with luck. That said, I would not say that aggressive investing is inherently bad; it is a good strategy, provided it does not become excessive or turn into a habitual practice. To ensure sustainable investment, one must strictly adhere to all investment principles and guidelines.

The second thing I feel aggressive investing overlooks is that risk is not only caused by the asset but also from the size of the position. While an investment can be a perfectly reasonable. The same investment can be utterly unsuitable for a person because their income, savings and other financial commitments are vastly different.

Therefore a well-defined maximum loss or maximum allocation is more relevant than aiming to being aggressive. Having a predefined maximum amount of capital to risk, can prevent an investor from suddenly being panicked into an emotional decision.

While investing involves taking reasonable risks, an investor should have one point where they declare, I'm comfortable with this level of exposure. Without this threshold, strategies can drift towards higher returns rather than risk control.

[Different patterns]

which is made possible by keeping extra discretionary funds to take advantage of the dip while actively DCAing without deviation.

Now you are getting really retarded if you believe that holding back funds in order to buy on the dip is more aggressive than regular DCA when more likely the opposite is true.

Face it.  You and some of the other guys who like to hold back money to buy dips that might not happen, you like to rationalize to yourself about your being smarter, more sophisticated and even more aggressive than a guy who is regularly, persistently, ongoing and consistently buying bitcoin.  Right?  

From my perspective, you kind of dip buying promoting guys are delusional and you are also spreading and promotiing incorrect information because you have a purpose to promote your own nonsense dip buying practices, while acting as if it is superior when the opposite tends to be true.

One thing I think investors who hold back their money just to wait for the dip fail to understand is that, actually they are delay their buying. Some people see it as a good plan,but what I want them to understand, there is not guaranteed for dip to happen as soon you expect, don’t be a serious bitcoin investor and still fall for dip as your plan. waiting for the dip will never be the best to accumulating bitcoin. that is completely wrong approach, but investing in bitcoin, need patience and long term, and how consistent investors is. After holding your money with you, planning your investment weather weekly or monthly interval. using DCA strategy is the best for newly investor, that can help them to stick to their plan and also give them rest of mind rather than waiting for dip to buy.