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ah the winner is the short term trader ,strategy using DCA method is only really successful if the price has exceeded the target ,it can also take years to make a profit ! while short terms traders make quick profits ! there is someone who uses the DCA strategy but after the price is high he doesn't sell his assets and loses that's moment while short terms takes every lucky moment !
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December 20, 2021, 06:06:16 PM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too. Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them. Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times.
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December 20, 2021, 07:47:41 PM |
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Depends on your preference. There a lot of things to go wrong when you're trading, it solely depends on your actions, your experience, psychology etc. Some people get too emotional, it's definitely not for everyone, at least I prefer to avoid it. I mostly panicked when I was trading, and kept worrying about my investment and my actions.
On the other hand, holding is an automated, autopilot method, which so far, has been proven to work.
There was an article that I read that 97% of beginner traders lose their money on the process of their first trading experience, while the other 3% earned as much as a bank teller. It goes to show the complicated system and complex ideas that are needed in trading in order to profit. While there may be experienced traders, there are also newbie traders who lost most of their resources due to impulsiveness. HODLing may be considered one of the better ways of investing. If you prefer not to do any hassle task, then this method may work either short or long-term since you only need to be aware of the initial investment you entered, while cashing out the excess- which would yield to profit.
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December 20, 2021, 09:07:56 PM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
They might in some instances like if they use their funds wisely and just make trades with potential coins. This is very common to impatient people, short-term trade is what they prepared but of course, it was profiting. They are more comfortable doing this and they felt winning against long-term traders. Well, does is not the problem as traders/investors or anyone will choose those things that it makes easier for them without the struggles to hold longer than they can do. I'm not literally to say that they are winning, that is actually the strategy they use and it was fine and working well for them. And they continue doing this.
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December 20, 2021, 10:36:42 PM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too. Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them. Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times. Yeah its true that it doesnt really matter whether you are a holder or a short time trader because what matter most on here is on getting profits and this is where people do really differs on decisions and things to do because we do differ in experience and skills when it comes to trading and what matter most on here is that we should know and do all sorts of things as long we could make out profits. So its up to someones choice whether they do chose as a hodler or a short term trader as long you do make out profits then thats whats important.
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December 20, 2021, 10:58:33 PM |
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HODLing may be considered one of the better ways of investing. If you prefer not to do any hassle task, then this method may work either short or long-term since you only need to be aware of the initial investment you entered, while cashing out the excess- which would yield to profit.
I tend to agree with this statement, but I don't know why there were too many risk taker investors, they want to make a profit in just a short period of time, and most commonly those coins that recently have a hype due to the manipulation of price while others even choose to invest in meme coin which doesn't have really a use. Why? Because they want to make a profit in just a week or months knowing that it could that's a trap and you will end up losing your investment. I also prefer holding which is a good decision. Though the process of earning money is quite long to happen at least the risk isn't that huge as we invested into altcoins or trading altcoins.
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December 21, 2021, 05:54:41 AM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
In my opinion, this is not the standard. btc holders with any method or short traders each have their advantages, it's just that there are different methods between short trades and holders. but the opportunity for btc holders is greater because long-term holders usually buy at low prices and make profits when prices increase in the future. but for the DCA method I'm still not sure and still doubt the capacity of the method
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December 21, 2021, 07:30:43 AM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
They might in some instances like if they use their funds wisely and just make trades with potential coins. This is very common to impatient people, short-term trade is what they prepared but of course, it was profiting. They are more comfortable doing this and they felt winning against long-term traders. Well, does is not the problem as traders/investors or anyone will choose those things that it makes easier for them without the struggles to hold longer than they can do. I'm not literally to say that they are winning, that is actually the strategy they use and it was fine and working well for them. And they continue doing this. As traders, we will choose what method can help us make a profit because that is the main goal for every trader involved in trading. If they prefer to use short-term trading and can analyze better than a long-term trader, that will not be a problem because every target will know what they need to do. A long-term trader will not feel jealous of the profit because they can also profit in the long term. They choose to be long-term traders for many reasons, but most of them do not have much time to analyze the market, so they decide to be long-term traders. It will be back to the trader itself, which way they will trade.
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December 21, 2021, 07:55:22 AM |
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DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed
if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.
but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average
sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change. its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work
DCA is better than not having any bitcoin at all. If we are to expect S2F or other exponential models to play out, then it follows that DCA of bitcoin will be supremely intelligent compared to other investment strategies over the long run. I hold BTC and continue to DCA satoshis regularly. DCA is simply a way to avoid FOMO or panic-selling.
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Both have their advantages and disadvantages. I guess there shouldn't be an issue of which is better than which because we have different preferences and strategies in making money in crypto. We also have different financial capabilities and status in which play a great role too as to why is someone is into either the long term or short term.
If you are capable of having your money invested for the long term because you have other means to generate income to sustain your daily needs, wants and maintain the lifestyle that you have, then good for you. Investing for the long term is proven to be effective most especially using the DCA method which is investing something, then forgetting about it so that your funds would profit over time. Those people who are into the long term personally have a strong sense of trust in the coin they invested in because waiting is such a challenge most especially if you witness the trend whenever the bearish market enters. Long-term holding isn't for the faint-hearted people. It is intended for those people who are patient and wise. There are man people who actually want to invest for the long term, however, some of them don't just have the means to stuck up their funds for a long time. Hence, they do the other method which is investing for the short term which is not a bad idea at all. In fact, it is also a good way to earn some funds.
Meanwhile, short-term investing is ideal for those people who aren't really patient enough to wait for their money to profit over time, as well as for those people who lack funds to invest in crypto. Others just really prefer to do short-term investment and trading because the money circulates easily in buying and selling methods. This type of work requires a broad knowledge of crypto. Perfect timing and technical analysis on when to buy and sell is also necessary.
If you do either or both of the two, it's all good. Just do what you are comfortable in doing. After all, it will still generate money, the only difference is the time it will be harvested.
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DCA is simply a way to avoid FOMO or panic-selling.
In fact, even if, for some reason, you're a sociopath and absolutely impervious to emotion, DCA frees you up to live a regular life. This means building a career, or pursuing a hobby, or fine-tuning a talent, or growing a family... whatever it is you'd have been doing if you didn't know about Bitcoin. I think too many people "get into Bitcoin" and it consumes their life. Good for them, good for all, but many of these guys "get in" with the wrong expectation. Thinking they can learn enough to outsmart the rest of the market. DCA just means you make yourself useful as you otherwise would, while at the same not missing out on the biggest financial opportunity in our lifetime.
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too. Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them. Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times. I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too. Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them. Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times. I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them. They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding.
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The winner is who get profit. Like what people said that it is just preference, people can pick whatever way for them to gain profit. And compared 2 thing that almost same, it is not a good idea because who support holding will answer it, and for the daily trader, will answer what they think too. Afaik, you are right, the one who wins is the one who gets the profit. No matter how lucky he is in holding Bitcoin either 10% or 20% he is still the winner. What we see today is that people who are completely unlucky are those who have never held bitcoins but can afford to own them. Part-time traders will not be as lucky as the holders. Usually day trading is more sensitive if you apply a trading method. They even better understand the market situation at any given time, as they interact on the exchange. But only one that is often overlooked is saving CL at unexpected market times. I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them. They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding. It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term, but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended. Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do.
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BTC is expensive coin everyone can't afford it to buy and trade it. And bitcoin is for long term holders. People brought BTC in 2011 and now they are millionaire. And they still hold BTC. But here is many of other coin for short time trade. Everyone can buy and trade them easily.
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I think the same, for me the hodlers are the ones who have all the possible advantage, there is no other way that can be applied to carry out a better finance operation in crypto, those who are short-term traders, are constantly at huge risk of lose their money with a bad position or that they see the market in a wrong way, and if it is leveraged it is much quicker to lose money, a hodler is an investor by nature, and they usually always leave their money increasing in the long term and this is something that does not concern them.
They have both the chance, actually. Short-term traders or holders can be in profit provided that they know what they are doing and doing it well. Might say that trading is very risky but can't deny that holding is also risky especially when you hold the wrong coins, not Bitcoin or potential altcoins. We can compare which one is too risky but in terms of profit gaining, they all both have the chance and in some cases, trading is more profiting than usual holding. It depends on everyone's ability and knowledge, because that short-term traders or holders have the same opportunity to make profit. I think for people who have good analytical skills, being a short-term trader is much more profitable. Because it can generate profits in the short term, but the risk is much greater. For newbies who are inexperienced, they should be holders, especially holding Bitcoin is more recommended. Or for people who don't have much time to monitor the market and don't have good analytical skills, become holders is good choice. Most importantly as long as holding potential coins everything will be fine, like holding Bitcoin will profit as long as we can be patient holding until the target we want is achieved. So ask ourselves, which one is more convenient and profitable for us to do. I never wait too long with my open trade when I'm in Altcoin. I think it is not wise to open a long-term trade in Altcoin, cause trading in altcoin is profitable but the risk is high here. Most of the time after the correction period altcoin failed to recover the losses, opening a long trade in altcoin is nothing but losing your money. For Bitcoin the I do the opposite thing, Whatever price I buy bitcoin I never sell it to loss, cause I know the price will reach the target today or tomorrow, longing your trade on Bitcoin is profitable and reliable.
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It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.
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bittraffic
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December 25, 2021, 07:45:05 PM |
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It depends on the trader, the amount of capital invested in and where the money is invested in. Yes long term will obviously bring huge profits when its with Bitcoin. And we can even make a reasonable profits from altcoins on short term as well but yes it is a matter of which alt coin and how much is invested and yes how the trader handles it according to the market move. An experienced trader can make profits on short term with patience.
It depends if the hold holder bought at the price where its just cents. Someone how bought ADA at $0.02 I guess is making lots of money still even after this fails more than 50% already. If you have bought SOL or ETH at $5 still is a big profit depending on the capital. I would prefer to actually hold the tokens that I can stake and still have the growth of money as you sleep. Somehow I have some of these tokens that I bought at such price and staking but still prefer to have BTC.
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ven7net
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December 25, 2021, 08:12:01 PM |
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Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game. Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience. We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.
I believe that both holders and short-term traders can make money with BTC however there are some differences. For example, in order to become a BTC holder now and have excellent profit in the future, provided the price of BTC rises, you need to invest a large amount of money in BTC, but what if there is no such money? Then you should probably try yourself in BTC trading, which, in principle, many do. I believe that in this case, some can win that others, however, provided that they know how the crypto market works and they have some experience, without this there is a chance to lose everything.
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Rengga Jati
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December 25, 2021, 09:35:48 PM |
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I cannot say that all holders with DCA methods are the winners, and others are losers, or even traders are losers. We should see the cases, moreover personal cases. Holding is about the patient. Not all people even holding with DCA method has big patient. And commonly they are the ones who have a high willingness to hold for a long-term investment. Every decision will have risks, so does holding with even the DCA method. We even don't know when is the dipping price, even we are buying BTC at several rates, we may also lose some money if we are not patient in order to take profits or we are in several urgent conditions to sell the coins. Moreover, we may also not be sure enough when the price will rise up again, it may be the next bullish era in which will probably happen after 5 years later or others.
Btw, many traders also can get very high profits by trading Bitcoin, and of course, they are professional traders. So do the professional holders that will also be the winners. So, it depends on who you are and what you can do.
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