Btc hodlers vs short time traders

[Voxo2222]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

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[franky1]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

[Voxo2222]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change

Dca without game play buy the dip comined together gives best results not just dca

[kro55]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Hodler and short-time traders both are benefited for their own purposes. Hodler invested money for the long term cause they have other income sources, they are able to manage their monthly expenses by doing other jobs. so they are able to invest for the long term and get benefits.
On the other hand, short-time traders are taking trading their main job, they do trading to manage their monthly expenses. They invest money for short time, take ROI and use that ROI to live their livelihood or use that ROI to invest in a new project. So they are also benefited.

[Sanitough]

Definitely, it depends on what method you are comfortable with using.

Me, I go for both, long term and short term are both profitable as long as you know the right timing especially on buying. if you were able to buy cheap bitcoin especially at the dip, you will find no problem holding it as in long run after the market struggles, a new bull run will come that will break the ATH.

Just follow the market trends and everything would be easy.

[Ultegra134]

Depends on your preference. There a lot of things to go wrong when you're trading, it solely depends on your actions, your experience, psychology etc. Some people get too emotional, it's definitely not for everyone, at least I prefer to avoid it. I mostly panicked when I was trading, and kept worrying about my investment and my actions.

On the other hand, holding is an automated, autopilot method, which so far, has been proven to work.

[batang_bitcoin]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

[GeorgeJohn]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

Bitcoin holders is equivalent to trader i have not seen a big difference between hodlers and traders frommy own angle of understanding, the slight difference i noticed is that hodlers don't be extremely curious to sell out their currency and they are not much inquisitive to sell, they only sell when a price of the coin they are hodling skyrocket or accelerates in market, while traders are conscious of selling their coins in any caused, in order to enable to earn a profit.

[franky1]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

I agree with you that everyone who holds and does the DCA will keep up in this market and are the winners. But the traders are also winning if they're winning their trades.
There's not that much difference from them and the other if they're also winning with what they do. As much as we want to see, everyone must be a winner with their own strategy that they think will make them that far.

most traders want to accumulate too. they jsut have different strategies to accumulate long term.

DCA is not about having patience. its just having a regular payment plan, almost on auto pilot. where you just set it and forget it. much like setting up paying into a savings account or a pension plan. it just moves money once a month (and autobuys at the price at deposit). its not some tricky thing or some complex thing that requires will-power and restraint.

the issue with DCA is the lack of control of the price, because its auto pilot to just buy when you deposit, you could end up buying at the ATH for the month, missing loads of oppertunities to have bough cheaper

traders can take better oppertunities and.. if they dont buy in during the first 27 days of the month cheaper. they still can spill their load on day 28 and buy at the "whatever" price. because thats the flaw in DCA. the "buy at whatever"/just buy regular theory

so if you want to maximise your potential. deposit at start of month. and set it to buy at end of the month if funds havnt already bought during the month. because buying coins each month still conforms to DCA because there is no rule that makes it a crime to not buy on the day of deposit. then with more control over oppertunities during a month, you have time..  rather then the theory of "just buy at deposit, dont care about price"

that way you have all that time in between to make better decisions.. and if still cant decide, oh well DCA it on day 28th day. and repeat each month. to still be DCA

[kucritt]

dca method is for investor, in many ways, i think dca is the best option to uy bitcoin, because no matters what is the price you still buy it, its different with traders, they must see the chart, must make a decision when to buy and sell

[Darker45]

People who buy Bitcoin just so that they could also resell it at a bit higher price has yet to really see the bigger, much less the full, picture. If people are still buying Bitcoin so that they could grow their fiat more, they are not yet seeing the wider monetary, economic, and financial realities of the times.

Signs are abundant. We have seen even the most developed nations failing in their inflation targets. We have seen debt limits rising. We have seen money printing rising to intolerable levels. These are the reasons why we HODL.

[cabron]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

Definitely. It had convinced many newbies to do the same though. Now they lost money buying since the time it continues dropping and if accumulating crosses thier mind, they will lose some more.

When the trader learns to see where the dip could go they eventually just wait until it goes to its bottom before buying because DCA is not just for them. The big man who does that is Micheal Saylor but definitely, I don't think his fund manager will really try DCA.

[Poker Player]

Well here the OP, who is partially right, starts from a false dilemma. The only investment alternatives are not DCA vs short term trading, there is also long term trading: people who buy a good amount now and buy or sell partially depending on whether they perceive that the market is overheated or bearish, rebalancing, as they say. There would also be long term investing without doing DCA: someone who buys a good amount of Bitcoin today for example, with an investment horizon of a couple of cycles.

But yes, the part you are right about is that DCA is better than short-term trading for the vast majority of people, and I would argue that any of the other investment alternatives discussed are also better than short-term trading.

[RiskySanchez]

Actually the DCA method is a traditional method used in all other traditional markets buy at dip and sell at high as simple as that everyone understands it but the difficult thing is emotional control in holding coins to get bigger profits in the future, but short term traders also have their own profit with calculate profit and loss and that is what makes it attractive compared to hold coin because you are encouraged to continue to fight with a bearish or bullish market situation at that time

[philipma1957]

DCA is game play.. a campaign being pushed

if influencers can get enough of the community to change from random lump sums and instead regular drips, then the hope is it can stabilise the price.

but most pushing for DCA seem to also push 'dont worry about price, dont try to buy the dip'. losing people many opportunities to maximise a better average

sorry but not everyone is going to DCA so dont expect volatility to change.
its like asking everyone to be hygienic and respect personal space, hoping it stops a virus spreading.. didnt work

Modified dca.

 Ie 50 a day or 50  week for a cycle  of four years.  10x your dca if a 35% dip happens.

sell 10% of your stash if a 60% jump happens.

do not deviate.

now 50 a day for 4 years is over 70k

but 50 a week for 4 years is just over 10 k this is doable for many people.

[mk4]

By investing at regular intervals or with set prices, you can lower the impact of volatility by averaging out your cost of purchase over time. So, it is somewhat true that DCA helps you play in a safe zone and make profits at the same time. By possessing a few methods, you will be able to make profits in both up and down markets. But don’t fall into the trap of buying high and selling low.

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The main point of DCA is just "automatically" buying consistently regardless of price, even at high prices. If you're going to "DCA" but refuse to buy at high prices then you're defeating one of the main reasons why DCA is a good method — to buy regardless of price.

[uneng]

DCA is a strategy that works for bitcoin, because the currency is getting more valuable on long run, but it's risky anyway for short-medium term investors, because they may buy some coins during an ATH followed by a bearish market which might last some years.

So in my opinion, a DCA strategy must be followed by a passive income from the bought bitcoins as well. This way, even though the investment in bitcoin stays negative for a while, it will keep generating extra income in a daily basis, as many sites offer us this possibility.

[worle1bm]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

DCA investment is best for those who have some regular income source to invest at different intervals but for long term holders who have some extra funds to invest one time can put up money into bitcoin and just hold it for long and return would be great.But yes DCA is the best method to accumulate more at low average price like most investors do.So it all depends on how you want to invest and what amount do you have with you.

[bitterguy28]

Sorry but hodlers who buy with dca method are the winners in this game.
Dollar cost average is by far one of the best methods many dont like it as they dont have patience.
We the people want to see results always too fast if not we not interested only few the handful can really do the buy the dips combined mixed with dca style buying.

It is depend in the timing of which the buyer did, if he come to Buy in perfect timing when the price is going to Pump so Short Term traders is more profiting than HODLERS.

But if we are talking in long term or not so perfect timing then Hodlers is always the winner.
If the trader wanted to make profit example for 1 week time but the price keeps on dumping then he will not gain anything instead will lose more.

[gabbie2010]

I think this is matter of choice and preference, investors who value their time might not have any time to learn how to trade and embark on trading would surely opt for DCA as means of investment and wouldn't bother about instant ROI but long term, however some investors values earning instant profits, knows how to trade thus embark on trading consequently earning profits on a short term basis, whichever methods that is convenient for any investor should be adopted, don't forcefully embark on unfruitful ventures.