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Author Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match  (Read 3674 times)
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January 18, 2022, 11:56:58 PM
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I could go with Errol "The Truth" Spence Jr. if Spence wins against Yordenis Ugas we could see a potential Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford fight, and that is what I want to see but he can not underestimate Yordenis Ugas, because Ugas can pull an upset just like he did with Manny Pacquiao, and it could be a Yordenis Ugas VS, Terrence Crawford, Surely Ugas can pull up a feat like that, but I really think that Errol Spence Jr, Can win this, and can still continue to be undisputed,

Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.
Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

I don't think Ugas is stronger than Spence, based on the record, Spence has the advantage. But I respect your opinion because we can never guarantee who will win in this fight even if the other fighter is the heavy favorite. Anyway, let's enjoy betting and be entertain while watching the fight soon.

There's only one way to find out who is the stronger fighter, and that is after this big fight. We cannot end this conversation about who si the stronger as both fighers are champion, they work hard to earn a title and they will work harder for this unification fight.

Not always those whos stronger will always win the fight, some might just play it smart to defeat a stronger opponent.
As you can see, Ugas defeated Pacquiao which is stronger than him. He doesn't need to engage into a fire fight and go toe to toe against Pacquiao because he got no chance on defeating Pacquiao's speed and power, instead he uses his height and reach advantage to score and counter punch.
Now, Spence is clearly the favourite here because he is stronger than Ugas, but once Ugas finds a way to defeat him in a smart way, he'll definitely go for it even If the fight looks boring to see.

The only problem with Pacquaio on that fight is he didn't have much time to study the game style of Ugas since the replacement of happened unexpectedly. His past fight is supposed to be with Errol Spence Jr but unfortunately Spence withdraw the fight due to health issues.

And since we see how good Ugas is then for sure we can see him give a good fight together with Errol Spence Jr.
You got some point on here but I don't see for it to be a solid reason on why Pacquiao lost that fight but we couldn't really deny that Ugas is really good.

If he do able to beat up Pacquiao then Ugas could really give a good damn fight with Spence but Im not really shocked that people instead looking way too low on Ugas.
Lets see on how he would settle things up.

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January 19, 2022, 04:44:53 AM
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You got some point on here but I don't see for it to be a solid reason on why Pacquiao lost that fight but we couldn't really deny that Ugas is really good.
The fact that he retired already, that tells that he understand he could not keep up with the young champions, and he accepted that.
Ugas is so honored he beat the legend, so going forward, that will give him more confidence to beat anyone who would challenge him.

If he do able to beat up Pacquiao then Ugas could really give a good damn fight with Spence but Im not really shocked that people instead looking way too low on Ugas.
Lets see on how he would settle things up.
If Pacman did not make an excuse on his loss, then maybe people would believe that Ugas is really strong and could beat Spence. There are still some who believes on him, don't worry about that, however, you can't blame the majority to believe that Spence will win, that's normal.

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January 19, 2022, 12:42:28 PM
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however, you can't blame the majority to believe that Spence will win, that's normal.

Normal thing and bookies sees that as Spence is the favorite to win, in fact, he is a heavy favorite. For most of the fans, it's easy for them to choose but we never know what will happen in the actual fight as Ugas is a champion, he knows how to win and he love being a champion, so he stake a lot in this fight.

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January 19, 2022, 01:22:58 PM
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however, you can't blame the majority to believe that Spence will win, that's normal.

Normal thing and bookies sees that as Spence is the favorite to win, in fact, he is a heavy favorite. For most of the fans, it's easy for them to choose but we never know what will happen in the actual fight as Ugas is a champion, he knows how to win and he love being a champion, so he stake a lot in this fight.

Ugas is +270 to win. That's decent odds for an underdog who is also a champion. If people will underestimate him, then most likely they will not grab the Ugas odds, instead they'll risk their money on the -400 odds for Spence which means they'll bet $400 to win $100, it's too risky IMO.

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January 19, 2022, 02:44:59 PM
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You got some point on here but I don't see for it to be a solid reason on why Pacquiao lost that fight but we couldn't really deny that Ugas is really good.

If he do able to beat up Pacquiao then Ugas could really give a good damn fight with Spence but Im not really shocked that people instead looking way too low on Ugas.
Lets see on how he would settle things up.

Ugas has that style that Pacquiao didn't catch up on earlier because of his busy schedule on his other career which is politics that's why he was defeated. Though I'd never doubt that Ugas is the winner of Pacquiao vs. Ugas fight because aside from the lack of proper time to study potential skills and strength of Ugas he has also aged already so his strength and speed were already slowed down. So yeah, I do expect a good damn fight also for the upcoming fight of Ugas vs. Spence. Though it might quite seem that Ugas is an underdog, but this fighter has had proved already his capability during his fight with Pacquiao.
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January 19, 2022, 10:43:26 PM
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You got some point on here but I don't see for it to be a solid reason on why Pacquiao lost that fight but we couldn't really deny that Ugas is really good.

If he do able to beat up Pacquiao then Ugas could really give a good damn fight with Spence but Im not really shocked that people instead looking way too low on Ugas.
Lets see on how he would settle things up.

Ugas has that style that Pacquiao didn't catch up on earlier because of his busy schedule on his other career which is politics that's why he was defeated. Though I'd never doubt that Ugas is the winner of Pacquiao vs. Ugas fight because aside from the lack of proper time to study potential skills and strength of Ugas he has also aged already so his strength and speed were already slowed down. So yeah, I do expect a good damn fight also for the upcoming fight of Ugas vs. Spence. Though it might quite seem that Ugas is an underdog, but this fighter has had proved already his capability during his fight with Pacquiao.
With his busy schedule then its sure thing that its one of the factors on why he had prepared that much in fight with Ugas. Spending lots of time on his current career which is on politics did really took some toll for him as a boxer but well its his decision on why he hadn't really put up much focus on his boxing career and now it do ended then we are waiting for someone who would took that spot.
As of Spence vs Ugas then even if ugas would be underdog but it isn't really bad to take some shot on betting on this guy.

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January 19, 2022, 11:33:54 PM
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Yes, that was the fight that anyone is waiting for. Before it was between Pacquiao-Spence-Crawford but since Ugas comes out of nowhere, he replaced Pacquiao on that and some boxers think that upset is sure to happen.

If those boxers believe that Ugas can pull an upset, it means they really know Ugas has the firepower to beat the heavily favorite Spence Jr.

I also like to see Spence vs Crawford as it already waited for a long time but I'm also like Ugas to upset Spence. This was confusing on my part lol.

Well, we can all agree on how powerful the punch of Yordenis Ugas, has but I really think that Errol Spence Jr. has a more technical approach when he fights, but Just like what I have said he can not go around underestimating Ugas, that may cause him so much if he does that, but we sure have plenty of time to think further on this, if what will be the right thing to do, the way Yordenis Ugas did to Manny Pacquiao is really legit, but we can not take off that Manny Pacquiao is 43 right now, and 42 when he fight Ugas, surely age has caught up to him, and his punching power and tolerance to pain may have depleted and Yordenis Ugas is only 35 years old, so there is a probability for Ugas could upset Errol Spence Jr.


Many were expecting that Spence will win this fight but Ugas is somewhat stronger that could make such an upset end. It may, not be the most awaiting fight that people must have to see but this seems to be the ticket for the biggest fight in their weight level. But I believe that Ugas will still have the bigger chance over Spencer. I don't just look at their experience and reach advantage or even the age and height, but seeing their previous fight we can see that Ugas is getting tough.

Pretty Much many are for Errol Spence Jr. and he is on hype right now, a come back from that car accident is a tremendous feat for Spence, and I surely salute him for that, but many here can not take off the fact that Yordenis Ugas is one tough bastard to crack open, but I do believe in Errol Spence Jr. capabilities, and for now, I will stick to it.
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January 20, 2022, 03:32:17 PM
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Pretty Much many are for Errol Spence Jr. and he is on hype right now, a come back from that car accident is a tremendous feat for Spence, and I surely salute him for that, but many here can not take off the fact that Yordenis Ugas is one tough bastard to crack open, but I do believe in Errol Spence Jr. capabilities, and for now, I will stick to it.

Spence may not be able to KO Ugas but he will win via judges' scorecards, the same defeat will happen on Ugas against Porter because Spence is an aggressive animal in the ring and much better than Porter. If Ugas cannot handle the power of Spence, then most likely the fight will end in KO.

I hope to see some opposite of our expectation, Ugas has a lot to prove in this fight, but people's belief will never change that Spence is the better fighter.

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January 20, 2022, 03:54:14 PM
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Pretty Much many are for Errol Spence Jr. and he is on hype right now, a come back from that car accident is a tremendous feat for Spence, and I surely salute him for that, but many here can not take off the fact that Yordenis Ugas is one tough bastard to crack open, but I do believe in Errol Spence Jr. capabilities, and for now, I will stick to it.

Spence may not be able to KO Ugas but he will win via judges' scorecards, the same defeat will happen on Ugas against Porter because Spence is an aggressive animal in the ring and much better than Porter. If Ugas cannot handle the power of Spence, then most likely the fight will end in KO.

I hope to see some opposite of our expectation, Ugas has a lot to prove in this fight, but people's belief will never change that Spence is the better fighter.

Ugas may lose but I don't expect a KO on him too.

per his record, he maybe not be undefeated but he has never tasted a KO loss yet, the good thing about him is he continued to fight, and beating Manny Pacquiao was probably the biggest success of his boxing career although we will say that he beat Pacman because he already past his prime and already old.

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January 20, 2022, 09:22:53 PM
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Ugas may lose but I don't expect a KO on him too.

per his record, he maybe not be undefeated but he has never tasted a KO loss yet, the good thing about him is he continued to fight, and beating Manny Pacquiao was probably the biggest success of his boxing career although we will say that he beat Pacman because he already past his prime and already old.

Interesting to say that Ugas can stay long he is not a defensive minister but he have that strength and stamina to stand still, it's interesting since Spence Jr have that capabilities, he's known to have that intelligence to corner his opponents and try to attack till the KO and win, Ugas will be test during this fight.

The momentum on Ugas career is still great after beating Manny. A win is a win, so whether it's on Manny's prime or because he's old now

that won't change anything in terms of the belt Ugas is holding right now..

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January 20, 2022, 10:17:54 PM
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Not just a shockwave but too much heavy shockwave.

Ugas named just become popular to us when beat Manny but I'm sure before that, we don't even know him.

And the best opportunity comes to him and he won't take the chances to slip away easily.

I don't know about him as well but after that fight and an upset to Manny Pacquiao, pretty much he is now well known resulting for Manny Pacquiao to retire, and from that fight, there are videos where Manny Pacquiao can not open his eyes due to the beating he sustained and needs to be spoon-fed by his wife Junky Pacquiao and from that standpoint Spence should not underestimate Ugas, because his punch sure pack the power to done such thing.
Truth to be told unless a boxer can win a fight in a dominant manner something like this is common, after all the amount of punishment they receive during a full fight of boxing is huge, and if to this we add that they are the best around the world and that their punching power is several times above the average person then it is completely understandable that many boxers end up in terrible shape even if they happen to win the fight.
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however, you can't blame the majority to believe that Spence will win, that's normal.

Normal thing and bookies sees that as Spence is the favorite to win, in fact, he is a heavy favorite. For most of the fans, it's easy for them to choose but we never know what will happen in the actual fight as Ugas is a champion, he knows how to win and he love being a champion, so he stake a lot in this fight.

Ugas is +270 to win. That's decent odds for an underdog who is also a champion. If people will underestimate him, then most likely they will not grab the Ugas odds, instead they'll risk their money on the -400 odds for Spence which means they'll bet $400 to win $100, it's too risky IMO.

That's one way to attract bettors.
However, I believe there will still be a lot of bet for Spence as he is the heavy favourite here. But in my POV, I also think $400 to $100 is just to risky for a Champion opponent.
I know like everybody knows that Spence is an elite level while Ugas is not, but I just don't want to underestimate another Champion because the possibility for Ugas to win is actually not very slim.

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Ugas is +270 to win. That's decent odds for an underdog who is also a champion. If people will underestimate him, then most likely they will not grab the Ugas odds, instead they'll risk their money on the -400 odds for Spence which means they'll bet $400 to win $100, it's too risky IMO.

Since there are gamblers who really think that Ugas won't stand a chance against Spence, they are willing to risk a decent amount regardless of the return. For average gamblers, that was a tough choice but for big players, that's no problem with them.

Maybe for an alternative at those who eyeing for Spence to win but have no budget to feel the profits once he wins, can consider betting at what rounds the fight should be ended or look at other possible betting options that a gambling site will offer.

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January 20, 2022, 11:26:34 PM
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I know like everybody knows that Spence is an elite level while Ugas is not, but I just don't want to underestimate another Champion because the possibility for Ugas to win is actually not very slim.

And not all boxing analyst predicts that Spence is a sure win. Risky to bet a big amount for a small return. In other words, it's necessary for gamblers to stake a high amount just to feel the profits.

Let's see what's the odds once our preferred sportsbook will list the fight. I might put on Ugas depending on the situation on the day where odds will be released on the crypto sportsbook. For now, I'm not considering Spence is a sure win here. Ugas might don't have that good name before but he has the power to defeat Spence.
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January 20, 2022, 11:38:58 PM
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I know like everybody knows that Spence is an elite level while Ugas is not, but I just don't want to underestimate another Champion because the possibility for Ugas to win is actually not very slim.

And not all boxing analyst predicts that Spence is a sure win. Risky to bet a big amount for a small return. In other words, it's necessary for gamblers to stake a high amount just to feel the profits.

Let's see what's the odds once our preferred sportsbook will list the fight. I might put on Ugas depending on the situation on the day where odds will be released on the crypto sportsbook. For now, I'm not considering Spence is a sure win here. Ugas might don't have that good name before but he has the power to defeat Spence.

we need the fight date first for this awaited match. from this article , this unification fight may possibly happen this coming March or April. but their respective promoters may be arranging the schedule and talking about the purse split here. usually, they need to agree with the money split here before they look for venue and date, because it is easier to look for these things once they are fine with what they want to get out of this fight.

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January 20, 2022, 11:59:19 PM
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I know like everybody knows that Spence is an elite level while Ugas is not, but I just don't want to underestimate another Champion because the possibility for Ugas to win is actually not very slim.

And not all boxing analyst predicts that Spence is a sure win. Risky to bet a big amount for a small return. In other words, it's necessary for gamblers to stake a high amount just to feel the profits.

Let's see what's the odds once our preferred sportsbook will list the fight. I might put on Ugas depending on the situation on the day where odds will be released on the crypto sportsbook. For now, I'm not considering Spence is a sure win here. Ugas might don't have that good name before but he has the power to defeat Spence.

we need the fight date first for this awaited match. from this article , this unification fight may possibly happen this coming March or April. but their respective promoters may be arranging the schedule and talking about the purse split here. usually, they need to agree with the money split here before they look for venue and date, because it is easier to look for these things once they are fine with what they want to get out of this fight.

Yes, it's more chance to happen in March or April as stated in all various sources. That's also the best month if these two are planning to fight with other boxers alone this year. I'm predicting that the fight with Crawford on whoever wins on this match will be from August to September.

This year gives us a good boxing match to watch.

There are lots of big fights to happened alone this year.

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January 21, 2022, 12:52:45 AM
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Spence may not be able to KO Ugas but he will win via judges' scorecards, the same defeat will happen on Ugas against Porter because Spence is an aggressive animal in the ring and much better than Porter. If Ugas cannot handle the power of Spence, then most likely the fight will end in KO.

I hope to see some opposite of our expectation, Ugas has a lot to prove in this fight, but people's belief will never change that Spence is the better fighter.

Well, I like your analysis, and crazily if Manny Pacquiao's punches didn't penetrate in Ugas jaw it could be that Yornenis Ugas has a durable chin, or Pacquiao's age is really catching up to him, but if Ugas chin is really durable a highly unlikely Errol Spence Jr. will not make a KO win against Ugas, but Spence would likely to win via decision,

Truth to be told unless a boxer can win a fight in a dominant manner something like this is common, after all the amount of punishment they receive during a full fight of boxing is huge, and if to this we add that they are the best around the world and that their punching power is several times above the average person then it is completely understandable that many boxers end up in terrible shape even if they happen to win the fight.

Sports like these should take pretty much caution, fighters can end up dying inside the ring has a possibility that is why there is always a paramedic on stand by ready to take action, and there are some stories that retired fighters had caused brain damage or diseases or trauma to the head, eyes, and body or any blows on the head is surely risky, boxer or a fighter might not see this at their present time they will eventually feel this when they retired or may show signs on the pending years to come, that is why fighters should have a large cut on their paycheck because of this kind of risk involve.
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January 21, 2022, 09:02:47 PM
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Let's see what's the odds once our preferred sportsbook will list the fight. I

Here's the betting odds for the fight.

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Errol Spence Jr (-400)
Yordenis Ugas (+270)

https://proboxingodds.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/rvdp5i/opening_betting_odds_errol_spence_jr_400_vs/

Very wide margin for the odds, looks like Ugas is not a champion with that kind of odds, but it is what it is, the fans think that Spence is unbeatable so he is the heavy favorite despite being inactive.

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January 21, 2022, 10:38:56 PM
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Here's the betting odds for the fight.

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Errol Spence Jr (-400)
Yordenis Ugas (+270)

Where can I see that sportsbook, it is not listed yet at stake.com, but I think I will wait for it to be listed, and it seems that Errol Spence Jr. is the favorite here, and Yordenis Ugas, still needs to prove himself from the public, and the people and I think that Errol Spence Jr. will deliver that kind of result, if not a KO performance but a win against Ugas, but I think people prefer a boxer with the most KO wins and Errol Spence has 21 KO wins than Ugas with only 15.

https://proboxingodds.com
https://www.reddit.com/r/Boxing/comments/rvdp5i/opening_betting_odds_errol_spence_jr_400_vs/

Very wide margin for the odds, looks like Ugas is not a champion with that kind of odds, but it is what it is, the fans think that Spence is unbeatable so he is the heavy favorite despite being inactive.

It seems against Errol Spence Jr. people tend to be trusting in Spence's power and performance, even though Yordenis Ugas has an advantage with the durability of his chin, and I think people are more likely to want a match against Errol Spence Jr. VS Terrence Crawford, this clash is so elusive that Errol Spence Jr. needs to fight Yordenis Ugas first, to prove that he can take on Terrence Crawford if this clash continued I think this could be a huge and profitable fight imagine getting these two undefeated to fight is something that many fans wants.
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January 22, 2022, 06:39:25 AM
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Where can I see that sportsbook, it is not listed yet at stake.com, but I think I will wait for it to be listed, and it seems that Errol Spence Jr. is the favorite here, and Yordenis Ugas, still needs to prove himself from the public, and the people and I think that Errol Spence Jr. will deliver that kind of result, if not a KO performance but a win against Ugas, but I think people prefer a boxer with the most KO wins and Errol Spence has 21 KO wins than Ugas with only 15.


You won't really see it on Stake.com or any crypto sportsbook for an obvious reason, mate.

And there's no "it seems" since right from the start, Spence Jr. will be the Favorite to win the match. But it doesn't mean it's an assurance that Spence is a sure win here. I like to put on Ugas at some point depending on the odds for him.

Betting on Spence is not profitable and since I don't eyeing for him to win nor Ugas, I will place my bet as a gambler, not a fan.

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