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July 05, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
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They must handle the current cheat wave and avoid accusation against them from cheaters. Later they must figure out way to run campaign without negative effect on their reputation from cheaters. If they handle and figure out well, they will come back. I see Owl Games team have good budget for promotion.
There is a big difference between that a company scams or cheaters cheating the bounty or signature of a company. These are two different things, while the former affects the company's reputation to a high length if not resolved, the later does not have much weight to weigh the company's reputation.

If there be cheating of Bounties or campaigns, it should be the responsibility of the campaign manager to handle and vindicate the company and it should have nothing to do with the company, unless the company refuses to pay the campaign participants.

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July 06, 2022, 09:26:27 AM
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I have not read about the accusations against owl that you mentioned in your reply can you please share a link to that here, I only read where the team accused bounty participants of cheating and that was discovered in the several withdrawal of owl tokens to one wallet through various user names which are against the rule of the bounty. If I were the team I will cancelled payment to that wallet and make an announcement here with every evidence.

This is misleading and there’s no scam accusation against Owl casino. I believe he is pertaining to the recent announcement of bounty manager Sujonali that Owl has been cheat by multiple account user to there bounty campaigns which is the reason that Owl management decided to stop any promotion here immediately including signature campaign.
You are right, there are not or at least there have never been any scams accusations to owl casino. Everything that happens is just complaints because of problems in the bounty sections, and it's not new that the bounty is full by multiple accounts, especially bounties whose tokens have been listed on the exchange because they will have the certainty of being able to sell the token when distributed.

I see the owl token price is quite stable in these bearish conditions but unfortunately trading on mexc the volume trades still low for owl

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July 06, 2022, 11:06:40 AM
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You are right, there are not or at least there have never been any scams accusations to owl casino. Everything that happens is just complaints because of problems in the bounty sections, and it's not new that the bounty is full by multiple accounts, especially bounties whose tokens have been listed on the exchange because they will have the certainty of being able to sell the token when distributed.

I see the owl token price is quite stable in these bearish conditions but unfortunately trading on mexc the volume trades still low for owl

Yeah, These bunch of abusers has the nerves to make complain about the payment after cheating the campaign and also they actually don’t give much help on promoting Owl on the period of bounty campaign running.

The current volume is is almost over x2 of the previous volume when I made my first purchased of OWL tokens and also MEXC provides a much better liquidity compared before on DEX that force you to use 11% slippage tolerance just to successfully trade OWL.

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July 07, 2022, 10:31:13 PM
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100.000 people have OWL token in their watchlist on Coinmarketcap , amazing result for the team.

Lets keep increasing the knowledge of the token between the people.

Congratulations to all the team.

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July 08, 2022, 10:23:40 PM
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100.000 people have OWL token in their watchlist on Coinmarketcap , amazing result for the team.

Lets keep increasing the knowledge of the token between the people.

Congratulations to all the team.

They've done great I hope the team can keep it up until they reach Binance where every coin's goal is to be traded there, a lot of token-based casino's goals are to be traded on big exchanges like Binance or Kucoin, Fun token has done it before it's now traded on big exchanges that include Binance with a huge community they can realize that goal, hopefully this year.
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July 09, 2022, 02:20:47 AM
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100.000 people have OWL token in their watchlist on Coinmarketcap , amazing result for the team.

Lets keep increasing the knowledge of the token between the people.

Congratulations to all the team.

Do you know that coinmarketcap watchlist is almost useless because of bot account in there? I saw many garbage project like meme coin that has more than 100k likers even it has no substantial product that can bring that user interest to watch them. Coinmarketcap promotion nowaday sucks because even garbage project put ads on it. People is not interested on project promoting there because they know shitcoin is promoting there too and they are afraid to land on a shit project even if Owl is a good project.

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July 09, 2022, 12:48:29 PM
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They've done great I hope the team can keep it up until they reach Binance where every coin's goal is to be traded there, a lot of token-based casino's goals are to be traded on big exchanges like Binance or Kucoin, Fun token has done it before it's now traded on big exchanges that include Binance with a huge community they can realize that goal, hopefully this year.

The difference with FUN token is that it was already listed on Binance before freebitco.in took it over. But as you say, all casino sites with tokens will work to get listed on Binance and some of them will indeed succeed but it will take time, money, effort and a lot of patience.



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July 09, 2022, 01:22:43 PM
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They've done great I hope the team can keep it up until they reach Binance where every coin's goal is to be traded there, a lot of token-based casino's goals are to be traded on big exchanges like Binance or Kucoin, Fun token has done it before it's now traded on big exchanges that include Binance with a huge community they can realize that goal, hopefully this year.
It will create hype temporarily but in long term, it won't decide value and price of a token. Market shows you that hundred of tokens have been divided 10 or 20 times from all time highs even they are on Binance and other tier 1 exchanges.

The difference with FUN token is that it was already listed on Binance before freebitco.in took it over.
I did not know about this flow and the take-over from Freebitco.in after FUN token was listed on Binance.

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But as you say, all casino sites with tokens will work to get listed on Binance and some of them will indeed succeed but it will take time, money, effort and a lot of patience.
Each casino has own plan and strategy for development, marketing and exchange listing. I don't believe all casinos will try to list their internal tokens on Binance. In addition, if they want, they must build utility of their tokens. Binance won't accept to list token that only be used in one casino and no more utility.

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Sandboxcasino.io (partner with Owl.games) refuses to pay me $120,000 I won playing Mighty Gorilla slots.

Sandboxcasino.io refuses to pay me with a bogus claim that I’m part of a scam group.
I don't know Sandboxcasino.io scams you or not but you gambled on that casino so please handle your issues with them, not with Owl.games.

Being a partner of another casino does not mean you will have to be responsible for all things happen with your partner. Do you get this point?

I watched your live video and honestly I can't believe it. I don't judge that you cheat that casino or something but just my own feeling when I watch it, unbelievable.

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Sandboxcasino.io (partner with Owl.games) refuses to pay me $120,000 I won playing Mighty Gorilla slots.

Sandboxcasino.io refuses to pay me with a bogus claim that I’m part of a scam group.
I don't know Sandboxcasino.io scams you or not but you gambled on that casino so please handle your issues with them, not with Owl.games.

Being a partner of another casino does not mean you will have to be responsible for all things happen with your partner. Do you get this point?

I watched your live video and honestly I can't believe it. I don't judge that you cheat that casino or something but just my own feeling when I watch it, unbelievable.

Owl.games is responsible because they have interjected themselves into the dispute by responding via email on behalf of sandboxcasino. Additionally, their software (that sandboxcasino.io uses) incorrectly  “flaged” my account as being associated with a scammer AFTER I had already been an established customer that had already received $5,000 in prior withdrawals via BTC. Conveniently sandboxcasino is now coming up with the excuse that I’m part of a scam group when I won a massive bonus after playing over $14,000 at $360/spin.

So when owl.games responds that they provided the software AND personally responds that sandboxcasino.io is correct in not paying, they are now responsible for being part of the scam to cheat me out of my legitimate win. I have done nothing wrong and I’m not part of any scam group. I have provided multiple responses to owl.games via email to prove that I won fair and square, but they have gone silent along with sandboxcasino.


This is totally not a scam but rather you are proven fraudulent since they detected it as software provider. You should ask for them to provide a proof such as detailed report for there findings and share it so that we believe in your side.

Owl.games has the responsibility to audit all the result because they are the provider of the software. There's no way for us to believe unless the casino itself can't provide proof to there findings.

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^With the statement that they released while you admitted too that you are using VPN at that time, All the evidence is just appropriate to there accusation because that’s really what’s pointing out including your suspicious consecutive jackpot wins. Even if I give the benefit of the doubt that you are not cheating but if you used the same IP with user that has record of fraudulent activity, The casino will surely flagged you because you are already connected no matter how hard you denied it. It’s either you should blame your VPN for miraculously giving you same IP with cheater or get a life play fair.


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Regarding the case of Sammy1:


Sammy firstly wrote to our email regarding his case with sandboxcasino on June 19th, 2022.

We replied on the 20th, June 2022 with the fact that:

1. SandboxCasino operates on their own using the owl.games casino software, they handle the bankroll, payment processing, players, on their own.
2. We have also sent an email on that day to SandBoxCasino asking them to justify the ban.

SandBoxCasino provided enough evidence that Sammy1 has multiple accounts (at least 13 accounts) with SandBoxCasino, which clearly violated the terms.

We replied to Sammy1 on June 21st, 2022 that SandboxCasino has banned him because of the multiple accounts violation.


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July 11, 2022, 02:04:00 PM
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Owl team have tried to mediate between sammy1 and stanboxcasino since the casino software run on owl but in-between stanboxcasino has responded through the owl team and has stated that sammy1 have indeed violated their terms, so at this junction, I don't think the owl team has done anything wrong to be held responsible for Sammy1 plight and am against the statement from sammy1 of owl involvement, and even the evidence posted does not justify your claims of not being involved multi-accounting.
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Regarding the case of Sammy1:


Sammy firstly wrote to our email regarding his case with sandboxcasino on June 19th, 2022.

We replied on the 20th, June 2022 with the fact that:

1. SandboxCasino operates on their own using the owl.games casino software, they handle the bankroll, payment processing, players, on their own.
2. We have also sent an email on that day to SandBoxCasino asking them to justify the ban.

SandBoxCasino provided enough evidence that Sammy1 has multiple accounts (at least 13 accounts) with SandBoxCasino, which clearly violated the terms.

We replied to Sammy1 on June 21st, 2022 that SandboxCasino has banned him because of the multiple accounts violation.


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This explains a lot because it’s very unusual for a VPN user to luckily be connected to an existing account with shady records while this guy that complaining show same pattern to the accounts being connected. I will start ignoring now this guy comment but if you have time to send proofs here such as IP which this multiple account have similarities, It will be helpful to become transparent here and backup your findings.

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July 11, 2022, 04:40:02 PM
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Regarding the case of Sammy1:


Sammy firstly wrote to our email regarding his case with sandboxcasino on June 19th, 2022.

We replied on the 20th, June 2022 with the fact that:

1. SandboxCasino operates on their own using the owl.games casino software, they handle the bankroll, payment processing, players, on their own.
2. We have also sent an email on that day to SandBoxCasino asking them to justify the ban.
Assume you told the truth. You are good to be a mediator for this case.

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SandBoxCasino provided enough evidence that Sammy1 has multiple accounts (at least 13 accounts) with SandBoxCasino, which clearly violated the terms.

We replied to Sammy1 on June 21st, 2022 that SandboxCasino has banned him because of the multiple accounts violation.
Multi accounting with 13 accounts. Again if what you told is the truth, ban is fair enough.

However, regarding to that big win, is it true? or the user successfully cheat Owl games software? I know cheating or not, it should be answered by Sandboxcasino team, not Owl games team. The issue happened on Sandboxcasino platform, not Owl Games' one.

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Someone said that the crypto gambling space is like a wild west... I guess this situation proves that claim!

I only had one account. They (sandboxcasino and owlGames) are holding their hat on the fact I used the same VPN IP address as these other players.

Free or paid VPN?! What do you have? ...if it's free I think it's that gray zone, and in the wild west stronger always wins!

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Someone said that the crypto gambling space is like a wild west... I guess this situation proves that claim!

I only had one account. They (sandboxcasino and owlGames) are holding their hat on the fact I used the same VPN IP address as these other players.

Free or paid VPN?! What do you have? ...if it's free I think it's that gray zone, and in the wild west stronger always wins!

It was a paid VPN that offers a free 7 day trial.  I even provided them proof of purchase showing I used it well after any other accounts they claimed I was associated with. Sandboxcasino knows damn well I’m NOT associated with any low limit bonus abuser account. I played high limit $360/spins and never used a bonus.

Sandboxcasino completely dodged any questions and refused to provide requested documentation to CasinoGuru complaint. Their replies show they never had any intention of paying me.  I’m sure sandboxcasino felt empowered to use multiple excuses because they had the backing of OWL.GAMES who interjected their comments in my emails to Sandboxcasino.  I blame sandboxcasino for being a scam casino and owl.games for allowing them to perpetuate the scam using the software they provided.  Not only am I out the $4,700 I deposited, but I’m also out the life changing $127,000 I won fair and square.

Here is the CasinoGuru complaint where sandboxcasino management dodges questions and responsibility:  

https://casino.guru/sandboxcasino-io--player-s-struggling-to-withdraw

Have you checked your Binance smartchain wallet already? I am quite certain there is $5k in BUSD held in there because the wallet is controled only by you.

In any case, we also have a scam accusations subforum where you can create a thread and you can tell what happened to you and Sandboxcasino with more details. Showing screenshots of emails and transactions will certainly help.

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@bbc.reporter:  Coinbase is a custodial wallet, so that’s not an option. Thanks for the scam board posting suggestion. I was really holding out hope that owl.games and Sandboxcasino casino would do the right thing and pay me, but reality has sunk in that I’ve been scammed. Based on the real-time play logs on sandboxcasino’s website, it looks like their customers are really low-rollers (0.25/cent bets), so it’s apparent sandboxcasino definitely didn’t have the money to pay me.

Well, with paid VPN there shouldn't be any problems! It seems that they really didn't have enough money to pay and that's why they made up various excuses... Is something happening now? Are there any answers from their side?

I think it's time for a scam accusation... Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)!

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July 15, 2022, 08:10:50 AM
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it is clear that Sandboxcasino is looking for any reason to cheat me out of my legitimate win of $120k. They keep on coming up with multiple excuses and ignore the fact that I’ve disproven each one.

A casino that posts VPN is acceptable multiple times, including on their ICB.org forum, should live up to their word. They are clearly making up the rules to fit their needs.

This whole case looks fishy to me, because why will a casino against the use of VPN allow a user to deposit with  VPN and can't be allow to withdraw after winning with the same use of VPN, because I first  blame sandboxcasino for misleading people on the forum with it's ANN thread stating VPN is allowed, just only to wake up one morning to change it that VPN is not allowed anymore. I just read Sammy1's complaint on casino.guru, and I must say his winning was a fair win, and the casino should please endeavor to pay his winning of $170k, if they truely care about their reputation.

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July 16, 2022, 07:21:28 AM
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@SammyGambler. I am very sorry, however, you should stop spamming this thread with your problem. We know it already and we cannot do anything about this except listen to your complaints and give you some suggestions on what to do. If you want to continue to talk about it, create a thread in scam accusations subforum.

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