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@owlgames There is an active scam accusation against your casino: owl.games scamCan you post in the scam accusation thread and explain exactly the reasons why the player's account got banned and what he did wrong? Point us also to the parts of your TOS that were broken and where the consequences of the player's actions are mentioned. Like the confiscation of the user balance.
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August 11, 2022, 08:51:17 AM |
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Anyone know why we have this repently down price today?.
In other words the top five leagues in europe are about to start (premier started and League 1 also + Bundesliga) and now Laliga and Serie A this weekend. Owl its preparing some promo for the people of the forum?
I ask here because i know some of here are in the telegram channel.
There’s no detailed reason about the dump even on telegram. I think some whale just unload his holdings on bear market while no one is buying his cheap token right now that’s why the price is still on bleed condition. Owl just announced there another airdrop on there telegram which I believe not connected on price sentiment. The price will recover soon because there’s no negative news that backed this price dump. I a not sure why you think that the price will grow... since the beginning you are cheering for OWL, but I really don't see anything special about this token, especially since I don't see anything special about this casino! And there is some negative stuff with them lately, except just banning and confiscating people's deposits and wins without giving valid reasons for such actions, I don't see them as an active team who works on the development! @owlgames There is an active scam accusation against your casino: owl.games scamCan you post in the scam accusation thread and explain exactly the reasons why the player's account got banned and what he did wrong? Point us also to the parts of your TOS that were broken and where the consequences of the player's actions are mentioned. Like the confiscation of the user balance. Well, if they want to keep their name and reputation they should hurry up a bit with some response, time is passing and all we see from OWL is a "wall of silence"!
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August 11, 2022, 02:27:21 PM |
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Iv4n, im not cheering for no reason, for the casino tokens we see here in the forum , they are the most stronger, compared to the other two we have here.
Also i dont follow they so much, only i go to check what are they doing in Twitter and i see they are active, and mading asociation with several other chains and companies.
The only bad thing now were this scam acusation they have.
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August 11, 2022, 02:42:19 PM |
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Iv4n, im not cheering for no reason, for the casino tokens we see here in the forum , they are the most stronger, compared to the other two we have here.
Also i dont follow they so much, only i go to check what are they doing in Twitter and i see they are active, and mading asociation with several other chains and companies.
The only bad thing now were this scam acusation they have.
Checking on the price really has a bad impact, for a casino-based token it's important to take care of their reputation its what push the price down or up even if they have a good platform and staking rewards, investors don't want to support a casino based token where its reputation is tarnished, -14.7% I wonder how low could it go, checking it's trust, there's one neutral rating will it remain clean in the coming months.
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August 11, 2022, 03:37:55 PM |
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Iv4n, im not cheering for no reason, for the casino tokens we see here in the forum , they are the most stronger, compared to the other two we have here.
Also i dont follow they so much, only i go to check what are they doing in Twitter and i see they are active, and mading asociation with several other chains and companies.
The only bad thing now were this scam acusation they have.
Care to explain why you see them as the most strong of all the casino tokens? They are pretty new and thus need to prove a lot more than some older more established casinos. I don't wanna speak badly about them as I also have these tokens and they are off to a great start but they need to maintain it. All legit casinos get scam accusations; let's await the official reply of owl.games to these specific cases.
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August 11, 2022, 05:37:03 PM |
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Im not an expert in this kind of things, but, when i say the "most strong" is most strong agains other token casinos here like Moonbet or Betfury.
I based this in two main things:
1- The value of the token. 2- The upside- and down of the price since their put in the market.
Betfury has more value of the token but they are down hill since their go into market. Moonbet has no value practicaly.
And OWL its in a healthy middle for now.
How this can end? i dont know , i dont have the crystall ball.
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August 11, 2022, 07:38:04 PM |
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Iv4n, im not cheering for no reason, for the casino tokens we see here in the forum , they are the most stronger, compared to the other two we have here.
Also i dont follow they so much, only i go to check what are they doing in Twitter and i see they are active, and mading asociation with several other chains and companies.
The only bad thing now were this scam acusation they have.
Care to explain why you see them as the most strong of all the casino tokens? They are pretty new and thus need to prove a lot more than some older more established casinos. I don't wanna speak badly about them as I also have these tokens and they are off to a great start but they need to maintain it. All legit casinos get scam accusations; let's await the official reply of owl.games to these specific cases. What I have in mind is exactly what you said, they are new and they have to prove a lot... that proving is being active in the community (here on the forum is the best of course, but I guess any other place can be good if the team decides to be active there), regular updates (bounty for bugs, provably fair, new games and new coins/tokens listed)... And definitely yes, popular and legit casinos get scam accusations here and there, it's nothing special, but it's important how the team reacts and what proof will they bring to the table... for now, we don't see anything from OWL, and that's the problem! Why not come out with proofs they have if they are legit? First, it was Sammy, in my opinion, they were looking at how to take his winnings from him, saying this and that without any valid arguments... than Whatiwhat with voided winning bets, for what reason? As I said, the time is passing, and the more they wait, the more guilty they look... I don't feel like I speak anything badly, I am just stating the facts here... and in my opinion (and I am playing at many "casinos with dividends" from their beginnings) OWL is not even close to the best ones! Simply, if a casino is not doing well we can't expect much from their token! 1- The value of the token. 2- The upside- and down of the price since their put in the market.
How this can end? i dont know , i dont have the crystall ball.
I told you, but you didn't trust me... the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
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August 11, 2022, 10:15:56 PM |
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. the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
They should re-think and change their strategy, I don't like it when they said that the bounty campaign did not help their cause any kind of marketing will have an impact on any project, there are two accusations against Owl.game the last one can be resolve the representative should at least go down there and counter the accusation while the first one is a little complicated but the longer it drags on the investors' patience will run out.
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August 11, 2022, 11:37:23 PM |
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. the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
They should re-think and change their strategy, I don't like it when they said that the bounty campaign did not help their cause any kind of marketing will have an impact on any project, there are two accusations against Owl.game the last one can be resolve the representative should at least go down there and counter the accusation while the first one is a little complicated but the longer it drags on the investors' patience will run out. Running campaigns to advertise their token will not help unless if they are so successful casino since this could help more since hype could build up by certain trust by majority of their players. I think what they need is to have more better promotions on their casino and create more utility to their tokens so that once there's big news release on their casino the price of their token will be dragged by hyped brought up by good developments happen to them.
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August 12, 2022, 05:47:26 AM |
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. the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
They should re-think and change their strategy, I don't like it when they said that the bounty campaign did not help their cause any kind of marketing will have an impact on any project, there are two accusations against Owl.game the last one can be resolve the representative should at least go down there and counter the accusation while the first one is a little complicated but the longer it drags on the investors' patience will run out. The accusation is directly to Sandboxcasino and not to Owl.games. The victim is just dragging Owl along with Sandboxcasino since they share the same license due to the casino software partnership with this 2 company.the user wants to punish both since Owl clean there hands on handling this case which is the right thing to do since they are separate business. I don’t remember they release an statement about the bounty campaign in general is not effective. They just told that there campaign became ineffective because many user cheated on it.
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August 12, 2022, 02:19:57 PM |
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I told you, but you didn't trust me... the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
Exactly, it is a fact that a lot of people didn't take into account, but the tokens where only listed on small exchanges with very low volume (the newest exchange they added -MEXC, is much bigger and there was also volatilty when it got launched there). Lets wait a little bit to see the outcome on the ongoing scam accusations before we draw any conclusions.
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August 12, 2022, 03:01:12 PM |
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I told you, but you didn't trust me... the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
Exactly, it is a fact that a lot of people didn't take into account, but the tokens where only listed on small exchanges with very low volume (the newest exchange they added -MEXC, is much bigger and there was also volatilty when it got launched there). Lets wait a little bit to see the outcome on the ongoing scam accusations before we draw any conclusions. Those scam accusation don’t even a thing on telegram channel which most of the investors discussing. The issue is just isolated here in Bitcointalk and not in there main channel. I think whales finally just taking profit after the long waiting period on the staking deposit and withdrawal fee. Remember that the price of Owl didn’t dump when the whole market is dumping. The whale just delay this token sale which will still gonna happened anyway because they will surely need to take profit for the huge gain already.
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August 12, 2022, 06:16:02 PM |
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People ended up checking the rules, people ended up starting a scam accusation, all of these are by the book and that's something I will always in support of. In my opinion, this is the right way to do it as well. All OWL needs to do now is go there and tell the people what the problem was and how they will solve it, or if it's not something they will solve, why they wouldn't and why the gambler was in the wrong. If they do that then they will be protected by the people here if they are right.
But if they keep ignoring it, I am sorry but people will eventually get away from this place and will look forward to making sure that nobody else plays here, it has been done before, and would be done again.
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August 12, 2022, 06:28:21 PM |
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Owl token has been on the rise lately but if the token get listed on other exchanges aside from the current market. This is so because the token will be exposed to a more high-volume market that will increase the volatility of the price
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August 12, 2022, 07:09:54 PM |
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Exactly, it is a fact that a lot of people didn't take into account, but the tokens where only listed on small exchanges with very low volume (the newest exchange they added -MEXC, is much bigger and there was also volatilty when it got launched there). Lets wait a little bit to see the outcome on the ongoing scam accusations before we draw any conclusions.
I saw on MEXC, that the price of OWL tokens rose significantly and also has quite a large daily trading, so I agree with you that we should give the OWL team time, to explain things related to the scam accusations that befell OWL.
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I told you, but you didn't trust me... the price was stable because the volume was low, which is normal, but I told you that big players are accumulating and in one moment they will drop their bags and the price will drop! That happened with all casino tokens in one moment, there's no running away from that... but will it recover, will it stay alive depends on will these sharks stay to play on OWL (as all other players) or they will find a new place because OWL is not paying winners? What do you think will happen with OWL tokens if there are no players on the site?
Exactly, it is a fact that a lot of people didn't take into account, but the tokens where only listed on small exchanges with very low volume (the newest exchange they added -MEXC, is much bigger and there was also volatilty when it got launched there). Lets wait a little bit to see the outcome on the ongoing scam accusations before we draw any conclusions. Those scam accusation don’t even a thing on telegram channel which most of the investors discussing. The issue is just isolated here in Bitcointalk and not in there main channel. I think whales finally just taking profit after the long waiting period on the staking deposit and withdrawal fee. Remember that the price of Owl didn’t dump when the whole market is dumping. The whale just delay this token sale which will still gonna happened anyway because they will surely need to take profit for the huge gain already. Those are common presumptions knowing that whales would definitely be having those kind of potential plan but we dont know on what would be their next steps.One things for sure on why OWL didnt drop that much which it would be understandable that if a coin do get sufficient support then it would able to sustain its position despite of the market condition.Trading volume wasnt that bad for a casino token not like on other competitors which do really shows opposite thing and i dont know on whats the reason but on casual or typical supply and demand then we would really be seeing these kind of actions.
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August 12, 2022, 11:21:42 PM |
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They should re-think and change their strategy, I don't like it when they said that the bounty campaign did not help their cause any kind of marketing will have an impact on any project, there are two accusations against Owl.game the last one can be resolve the representative should at least go down there and counter the accusation while the first one is a little complicated but the longer it drags on the investors' patience will run out.
The bounty that they've made helped them, the signature campaign did helped them a lot. But they did the right thing of stopping the bounty because of the cheaters. It's one of the main reasons why they've gained the popularity from the forum and they've attracted not just gamblers but also investors in particular since they've made it on the forum. I have seen the accusation but I haven't read it yet, I have to read it clearly first before I give my opinion.
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August 13, 2022, 10:01:22 AM |
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They should re-think and change their strategy, I don't like it when they said that the bounty campaign did not help their cause any kind of marketing will have an impact on any project, there are two accusations against Owl.game the last one can be resolve the representative should at least go down there and counter the accusation while the first one is a little complicated but the longer it drags on the investors' patience will run out.
The bounty that they've made helped them, the signature campaign did helped them a lot. But they did the right thing of stopping the bounty because of the cheaters. It's one of the main reasons why they've gained the popularity from the forum and they've attracted not just gamblers but also investors in particular since they've made it on the forum. I have seen the accusation but I haven't read it yet, I have to read it clearly first before I give my opinion. I’m part of the signature campaign of Owl from the start and I was surprised that they launch bounty campaigns on top of there existing signature campaign, It’s already redundant and bounty campaigns is not effective anymore especially social media because most of the participants use dummy account with fake follower. There shares has no effect at on spreading news about Owl. I hope they stick on signature campaign and increase the budget to hire more quality poster. But since the damage is already done, There trust on marketing is already erased and they choose to put there marketing on different space. I believe that they didn’t measure their success well, because a signature campaign when done well is bound to bring lots of success and therefore I feel that they can relaunch it will more stricter rules in place. Furthermore I personally felt that this project had lots of potential to grow, hence I’m sincerely hoping that they can clear any misunderstandings and get investors confidence back.
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August 13, 2022, 10:10:13 AM |
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I believe that they didn’t measure their success well, because a signature campaign when done well is bound to bring lots of success and therefore I feel that they can relaunch it will more stricter rules in place. Furthermore I personally felt that this project had lots of potential to grow, hence I’m sincerely hoping that they can clear any misunderstandings and get investors confidence back.
There’s no sign that they will relaunch again there signature campaign in the near future because they are prioritizing now the promotion inside the casino and token listings. I already reduced my token holdings for this casino after the issue brought up here. I hope that they will use Bitcointalk again as medium for promotion and start handling properly those cases that involves the casino that they are partner with. I choose to still hold some of my tokens because I still believe on this project due to there software sales possibility. This is the only casino that I know that has a huge potential to expand into huge decentralized casino.
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August 13, 2022, 02:53:55 PM |
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There’s no sign that they will relaunch again there signature campaign in the near future because they are prioritizing now the promotion inside the casino and token listings. I already reduced my token holdings for this casino after the issue brought up here. I hope that they will use Bitcointalk again as medium for promotion and start handling properly those cases that involves the casino that they are partner with.
They stopped it after they discovered that many cheaters in their bounty and those cheaters use bounty reward to exploit their casino. I believe they will only restart it if they can have good mechanism to restrict or at least reduce cheaters. It is not easy so they will not relaunch it soon. I choose to still hold some of my tokens because I still believe on this project due to there software sales possibility. This is the only casino that I know that has a huge potential to expand into huge decentralized casino.
It is not harmful if you don't put all eggs in one bag and don't bet all your money in one token. I think there is possibly overlap between cheating exploitation from cheater and accusation against Owl games.
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