UFC 270: Ngannou vs Gane | Is Gane a good bet?

[TopTort777]

Ive heard that there are disagreements between Ngannou and UFC in a question of reward. Ngannou thinks that he cost more and ask for extra money. That is why we dont see much of him this year. As well as with his manager/coach. His formal coach said that Ngannou is ungrateful, not only did not pay him, but he did not even say thank you. There is nothing between Ngannou and Gane, there is no hate between them. The situation, when on UFC 268 Ngannou walked by Gane showing that he does not see him, Ngannou explain that he did not want to greet his formal coach; it will be stupid to greet Gane, and dont greet coach. So he just walked away Ngannou is just rude, unmannered.

[YOSHIE]

Yeah, Gane has lost me a lot of money as I've doubted him many times before. Proven me wrong each time, usually pretty convincingly. Still, I'm going for Ngannou.

Does this mean that Ngannou will stop the hype of the Gane this time......!

Yes, maybe we won't talk about Gane and Ngannou's careers, if you look at the MMA-UFC they both look good, (16-3 comparison 10-0) means: Ngannou lost three times and Gane never but what you said makes me a little doubtful, it's a different story for 2022.

First: Ngannou knows who Gane is and how his career was at the UFC, this could have made Ngannou more optimistic to train himself to face Gane, that's the point.

What is certain is that if your go to Ngannou, I will still be standing with Gane, how, any considerations.

[AicecreaME]

So Ngannou vs Gane is coming up soon and I've been extremely excited for this match-up. The fighting odds right now on most betting sites are pretty even but I'm sure eventually Ngannoug will become a favorite due to his power and people generally like to bet on the champion. I'm planning on putting a pretty sizable bet on Gane though. The guy has unparalleled footwork. No one in the division comes even close to his movement and I believe Ngannou won't be able to connect with much. Especially after watching their sparring footage.

Here's the summary of my thinking:

• Gane has better BJJ and especially good leg logs in his arsenal. I can easily see Francis getting caught in a heel hook if they go to the ground.
• Overall better standup. He's an undefeated kickboxer with unmatched footwork in the heavyweight division, whereas Francis is mainly a boxer with rare kicks and 0 wrestling.
• Gane absolutely dismantled Derrick Lewis whereas Ngannou stood frozen against him and lost via decision.
• Francis currently has a lot of negotiation drama with the UFC and wants to leave. This is the last match on his contract and if he loses he'll be a free agent. The championship clause in his contract would tie him to the UFC for another year or 3 fights if he wins this match.

It's still a pretty risky bet though, ngl. I'm kinda hoping someone will convince me that I'm wrong but I don't see Gane losing in any scenario. Please discuss  

This will defitely be a nice fight between two reputable players inside the matching ring. Both players have an undeniably great records which is why it's really hard to take and pick side because the two perform well and have their respective expertise that is their leverage and edge to their opponent during a fight. Ngannou is known to throw heavy and very strong punches that could knock someone out. He is popular for his great strength which you'll definitely witness every match. His power is just superb so if ever he will be able to be in close proximity to Gane, there's a high chance that he would win the match. Gane, on the other hand is known for his unmatched and amazing footwork and speed which paved way and is one of the reasons why he has a clean and undefeated record. He is such a speedy fighter who fights in a distance which makes it hard for his opponents to keep up in pace and connect with him.

In this fight, it is really hard to tell which would win because the two boxers hold a very nice history and of course they have their own strengths. Maybe this will just be a matter of who will be able to have more endurance and stamina over their battle and who will be more strategic in aiming a punch and strucking a clean and solid throw to another. I'm also on the side of Gane, but this won't be an easy fight for him because surely Ngannou won't let him win the title in an easy manner. I'm also really looking forward to their upcoming match and may the most deserving player win.

[Welsh]

What is certain is that if your go to Ngannou, I will still be standing with Gane, how, any considerations.

Honestly, that's probably a good strategy. I consider myself a anti expert, meaning whoever I pick usually ends up losing. Especially, in the bigger fights. Only somewhat listen to me in the prelim fights as I get all the main cards wrong.

I'll definitely be going with Ngannou as that's where the money is, and he'll always have a chance even if he gets outclassed by Gane due to his power.  

Ive heard that there are disagreements between Ngannou and UFC in a question of reward. Ngannou thinks that he cost more and ask for extra money. That is why we dont see much of him this year. As well as with his manager/coach. His formal coach said that Ngannou is ungrateful, not only did not pay him, but he did not even say thank you.

Maybe, he has a lack of belief, and knows that he's probably not going to be around for long at the top. As we know, the money significantly drops off once you aren't fighting in the bigger fights in the UFC. Could potentially be trying to sift as much money out of the UFC as possible while he's at the top. Probably sees Gane as a legitimate threat to his reign, and therefore is reluctant to be friendly. I'm not sure what's gone on with the coaching situation, Ngannou hasn't really said anything in his defense, so we've only heard it from his coach which isn't exactly fair. I'll reserve judgement for now.

[aioc]

Ive heard that there are disagreements between Ngannou and UFC in a question of reward. Ngannou thinks that he cost more and ask for extra money. That is why we dont see much of him this year. As well as with his manager/coach. His formal coach said that Ngannou is ungrateful, not only did not pay him, but he did not even say thank you. There is nothing between Ngannou and Gane, there is no hate between them. The situation, when on UFC 268 Ngannou walked by Gane showing that he does not see him, Ngannou explain that he did not want to greet his formal coach; it will be stupid to greet Gane, and dont greet coach. So he just walked away Ngannou is just rude, unmannered.

UFC has no problem letting go of Ngannou, they can always build someone as good as Ngannou and made them their cash cow, but Ngannou has become a better fighter, that he can be huge in any organization, things are not going well with Dana and Ngannou because Ngannou did not agree that there is an interim heavyweight champion when he is still a champion and still present as a champion, this fight is Ngannou fight for redemption and to prove that he is the undisputed champion.

[Davidvictorson]

Only thing bouncing is gonna be his head off the canvas after Francis catches him.  And here’s the deal Stipe has fantastic foot work he has great entry and exit he is in and out quick he makes guys constantly guess but Francis has the speed and timing to catch dudes and he just needs to do it one time he only needs one slip.  That’s why I pick Francis in this fight.  Now can he beat Francis sure he can so can Stipe and Stipe done it flawlessly but he has to be absolutely perfect for 25 mins cause at 24 mins and 59 seconds Francis can shut the fight off.

[DU18]

Ive heard that there are disagreements between Ngannou and UFC in a question of reward. Ngannou thinks that he cost more and ask for extra money. That is why we dont see much of him this year. As well as with his manager/coach. His formal coach said that Ngannou is ungrateful, not only did not pay him, but he did not even say thank you. There is nothing between Ngannou and Gane, there is no hate between them. The situation, when on UFC 268 Ngannou walked by Gane showing that he does not see him, Ngannou explain that he did not want to greet his formal coach; it will be stupid to greet Gane, and dont greet coach. So he just walked away Ngannou is just rude, unmannered.

UFC has no problem letting go of Ngannou, they can always build someone as good as Ngannou and made them their cash cow, but Ngannou has become a better fighter, that he can be huge in any organization, things are not going well with Dana and Ngannou because Ngannou did not agree that there is an interim heavyweight champion when he is still a champion and still present as a champion, this fight is Ngannou fight for redemption and to prove that he is the undisputed champion.

Reportedly the problems between Ngannou and Dana white  have now been resolved and even  Dana white have confirmed that they will soon extend Ngannou contract as a part of the UFC fighter, with the issue resolved I think Ngannou will fight again against the interim heavyweight title holder, Ciryl Gane at UFC 270 which is scheduled to be played on January 22.

[Jackl87]

So Ngannou vs Gane is coming up soon and I've been extremely excited for this match-up. The fighting odds right now on most betting sites are pretty even but I'm sure eventually Ngannoug will become a favorite due to his power and people generally like to bet on the champion. I'm planning on putting a pretty sizable bet on Gane though. The guy has unparalleled footwork. No one in the division comes even close to his movement and I believe Ngannou won't be able to connect with much. Especially after watching their sparring footage.

Here's the summary of my thinking:

If i would have to place a bet if would probably go for Gane. After watching the video that you linked i would tend even more towards Gane, as he just seems to have the far superior technique. The think with Ngannou is, that he is just a monster and he can be dominated for a whole fight, but if he managed to tag the opponent with one nice punch then it is definitely lights out and another win for Ngnannou. Miocic managed to avoid getting hit in his first fight against Ngannou and he totally dominated that fight and therefore won very deservedly by points. In their second fight though he got tagged and that was it.
So it's always a pretty risky bet no matter who you are favoring.

[Bttzed03]

~ but he has to be absolutely perfect for 25 mins cause at 24 mins and 59 seconds Francis can shut the fight off.

Pretty much sums up how the fight will look like.

I still remember that fight when Stipe kinda lost his composure and rushed forward after landing a good punch. I can't fault him though because anyone  on the receiving end of Ngannou's hands will momentarily forget about strategy. Let's see how Gane does after he eats one of those.

[TopTort777]

If anyone is going to place a bet based on a paper-scissors-rock tactics ( Lewis beat Ngannou, Gane beat Lewis = Gane beats Ngannou), I would like to warn that such things in most cases don't work in UFC. Also having a 10-0 or "a lot of wins- 0" record does not mean anything, if this record was build outside UFC. Even this the bookies don't have an obvious favourite, as the odds are rather equal. This time it will be a pure random imho. I would not recommend to place a bet, as possibility of loosing is high, and the amount won isn't that high to take that kind of risk imho.

[eaLiTy]

Gane proved himself he could beat heavy hitters like Lewis which if Lewis beat Ngannou, you wouldn't see Ngannou having a chance against Gane. it's still a very risky fight because Ngannou can throw a scary one-punch knockout.

MMA math will not work like that, if Francis Ngannou was defeated by Derrick Lewis and Derrick Lewis getting defeated by Ciryl Gane then it does not mean that Ciryl Gane will defeat Francis Ngannou. We know how Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis was the most boring fight in heavy weight history with the lowest number of strikes even attempted, it was a total stale mate and  Francis Ngannou was coming after a defeat and he was frozen during the fight .

i wouldn't say there is a huge difference to the odds even if the bookmaker will determine Gane to be the favorite. i'd say Ngannou will be my favorite. skip betting on this one if you are not very sure who to pick.

Francis Ngannou and Ciryl Gane have a history where they were training partners and his old coaches are still training Ciryl Gane and the UFC can create a good hype to promote the fight. It is one of the most anticipated fights and if Francis Ngannou could connect one punch, he could sleep anyone and the game plan of Ciryl Gane will be the interesting aspect on how he will manage to over come that and fight to his strength.

[electronicash]

Gane proved himself he could beat heavy hitters like Lewis which if Lewis beat Ngannou, you wouldn't see Ngannou having a chance against Gane. it's still a very risky fight because Ngannou can throw a scary one-punch knockout.

MMA math will not work like that, if Francis Ngannou was defeated by Derrick Lewis and Derrick Lewis getting defeated by Ciryl Gane then it does not mean that Ciryl Gane will defeat Francis Ngannou. We know how Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis was the most boring fight in heavy weight history with the lowest number of strikes even attempted, it was a total stale mate and  Francis Ngannou was coming after a defeat and he was frozen during the fight .

i wouldn't say there is a huge difference to the odds even if the bookmaker will determine Gane to be the favorite. i'd say Ngannou will be my favorite. skip betting on this one if you are not very sure who to pick.

Francis Ngannou and Ciryl Gane have a history where they were training partners and his old coaches are still training Ciryl Gane and the UFC can create a good hype to promote the fight. It is one of the most anticipated fights and if Francis Ngannou could connect one punch, he could sleep anyone and the game plan of Ciryl Gane will be the interesting aspect on how he will manage to over come that and fight to his strength.

Ngannou losing this fight would mean he is not going to get a lot of money out of his next fight against Jon Jones. UFC is messing his career despite having the belt.

[Davidvictorson]

Gane proved himself he could beat heavy hitters like Lewis which if Lewis beat Ngannou, you wouldn't see Ngannou having a chance against Gane. it's still a very risky fight because Ngannou can throw a scary one-punch knockout.

MMA math will not work like that, if Francis Ngannou was defeated by Derrick Lewis and Derrick Lewis getting defeated by Ciryl Gane then it does not mean that Ciryl Gane will defeat Francis Ngannou. We know how Francis Ngannou and Derrick Lewis was the most boring fight in heavy weight history with the lowest number of strikes even attempted, it was a total stale mate and  Francis Ngannou was coming after a defeat and he was frozen during the fight .

i wouldn't say there is a huge difference to the odds even if the bookmaker will determine Gane to be the favorite. i'd say Ngannou will be my favorite. skip betting on this one if you are not very sure who to pick.

Francis Ngannou and Ciryl Gane have a history where they were training partners and his old coaches are still training Ciryl Gane and the UFC can create a good hype to promote the fight. It is one of the most anticipated fights and if Francis Ngannou could connect one punch, he could sleep anyone and the game plan of Ciryl Gane will be the interesting aspect on how he will manage to over come that and fight to his strength.

Ngannou losing this fight would mean he is not going to get a lot of money out of his next fight against Jon Jones. UFC is messing his career despite having the belt.

Ngannou has a nuclear bomb solution if he lands that shot which i feel is close to impossible with the way Gane moves. Gane by decision or submission. Because let's be honest Gane has power but not the power to shut Ngannou's lights out so he will outbox him and try and drag him into Deepwater which is hard giving that we almost never see Ngannou goes to round 2 let alone 5 rounds. It's a mess

[TopTort777]

Every fighter in heavyweight has enough powercto shut Ngannou lights out. In this division, even one punch that hits block enough to daze opponent, get him to the ground and finish with hammer strikes.

The reason why no one knocked out Ngannou yet is thwt they did not survive till that moment. I think the fight will end either by submission, or first one to run out of stamina will be ground and pounded.

[teddybear]

Gane is genuinely the new age heavyweight fighter who moves like someone much much lighter. Just incredible footwork and stamina. Now, the question is, can he keep Ngannou at bay for at least 2 rounds and tire him out a little? That's genuinely up for debate. I  thought Ngannou is fav to win the fight yet, I just noticed that it isn't the case. Tough decision for me but I think Ngannou has just enough skill and power to have the fight in his favour. Good luck with your bets.

[bittraffic]

Gane is genuinely the new age heavyweight fighter who moves like someone much much lighter. Just incredible footwork and stamina. Now, the question is, can he keep Ngannou at bay for at least 2 rounds and tire him out a little? That's genuinely up for debate. I  thought Ngannou is fav to win the fight yet, I just noticed that it isn't the case. Tough decision for me but I think Ngannou has just enough skill and power to have the fight in his favour. Good luck with your bets.

Gane is very energetic and hungry to prove himself to beat the top fighters. Wait til he encounters someone that will put him to sleep through a big right cross to his jaw and you willl see that he'll be very worried in fighting again. For a fighter who experienced a TKO, theyd be very defensive in most case. The two Nganouu and Gane had not yet experience this yet but once they do, the psychology is hard to overcome.

[bbc.reporter]

I reckon Cyril Gane will be giving everyone a very shocking performance with his speed to avoid Ngannou’s punches, avoid Ngannou’s entries and manipulate him aside similar to a master vs. a stupid charging bull. This fight might become another classic similar to boxing’s Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston and it will show everyone that power is nothing vs. skill. It appears that much of the fans are underestimating Gane.

[yazher]

I reckon Cyril Gane will be giving everyone a very shocking performance with his speed to avoid Ngannou’s punches, avoid Ngannou’s entries and manipulate him aside similar to a master vs. a stupid charging bull. This fight might become another classic similar to boxing’s Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston and it will show everyone that power is nothing vs. skill. It appears that much of the fans are underestimating Gane.

If that will be the case, then this is indeed an exciting fight to watch. That would be a huge blow to Ngannou's career if he losses this fight and pumped up popularity for Gane if he managed to execute such techniques. It's not easy to set up such kinds of skills to beat a strong and powerful opponent but enough fighting experience will boost his performance to create such skill and he might gonna win this fight if he has the patience until the end of every round.

[Welsh]

Considering when I looked the other day the odds are split 1.90 a piece, Gane is definitely the more enticing bet to make. I expected Gane to have an advantage in the odds, he has the better technical ability, and has shown a pretty decent chin. However, if he does get hit by Ngannou its probably lights out. I think your basically betting against Ngannou finding his mark against Gane, but considering his footwork for a heavyweight might be a good bet.

I still fancy Ngannou to clip him a few times. Though, I'll be putting a bet on Gane since that's probably the more probable outcome.

[coin-investor]

I reckon Cyril Gane will be giving everyone a very shocking performance with his speed to avoid Ngannou’s punches, avoid Ngannou’s entries and manipulate him aside similar to a master vs. a stupid charging bull. This fight might become another classic similar to boxing’s Muhammad Ali vs. Sonny Liston and it will show everyone that power is nothing vs. skill. It appears that much of the fans are underestimating Gane.

If we are going to see the Ngannou that won the heavyweight by knocking out Miocic, then Gane is in big trouble but if Gane can neutralize Ngannou's attack then Gane can take Ngannou's crown, it will go down to who can implement a better plan, Ngannou's power or Gane's skill, the fight looks even but I have Ngannou winning by a knockout its a bold prediction and it could go either way.