How a 1Xbit promoter get into DT network?

[AB de Royse777]

I was just checking my feedback page : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=366632;dt

And this was surprising!


But then when I checked the user's profile nothing else surprised me. Archived profile. I do not expect more from a 1XBit promoter.

But my question is, who has added him in DT network? How can someone add someone who is knowingly promoting a scam casino?

[Despairo]

According to his trustlist https://loyce.club/trust/2022-01-01_Sat_05.12h/895005.html

Vispillio is DT1 and he trust him that's why this user in DT2, but he currently don't have any strength (0) so he should be excluded next week.

CMIIW

[shasan]

But my question is, who has added him in DT network? How can someone add someone who is knowingly promoting a scam casino?

Vispilio is on DT1 and Vispilio has added Cacingkemi is on his/her trust list as a result Cacingkemi is now DT2. Base on the trust history of Cacingkemi, Vispilio  should remove that user from his/her trust list. Otherwise other DT users should remove Vispilio from the DT. I don't think any other option for it. If anyone like Cacingkemi is on dt list then that will be a bad effect for the forum users.

[NeuroticFish]

Vispilio is on DT1 and Vispilio has added Cacingkemi is on his/her trust list as a result Cacingkemi is now DT2. Base on the trust history of Cacingkemi, Vispilio  should remove that user from his/her trust list. Otherwise other DT users should remove Vispilio from the DT. I don't think any other option for it. If anyone like Cacingkemi is on dt list then that will be a bad effect for the forum users.

Vispilio is backed by an army of.. questionable accounts, many of them having negative trust. And some of the accounts from that "circle" seem to become DT now ant then.
So I don't really think that he will care to do anything. Of course, I'd be happy to be proved I was wrong.

[suchmoon]

According to his trustlist https://loyce.club/trust/2022-01-01_Sat_05.12h/895005.html

Vispillio is DT1 and he trust him that's why this user in DT2, but he currently don't have any strength (0) so he should be excluded next week.

CMIIW

Strength must be -1 for someone to drop off DT1, and the effect is immediate, not next week.

IOTW this requires only one not-totally-spineless DT1 member to exclude Vispilio.

Vispilio is backed by an army of.. questionable accounts, many of them having negative trust. And some of the accounts from that "circle" seem to become DT now ant then.
So I don't really think that he will care to do anything. Of course, I'd be happy to be proved I was wrong.

Let's not sugarcoat it. Vispilio (and many others like him) is in DT1 only because of the incestuous back-scratching among Turkish members of this forum, and the rest of DT1 happily ignoring it.

[dkbit98]

But my question is, who has added him in DT network? How can someone add someone who is knowingly promoting a scam casino?

I wouldn't worry so much about him and his feedback (your profile looks fine to me), because anyone can see his red colored profile and he didn't provide any proof for his claims.
It sucks that DT2 works like this, and I wonder if anything would change with enough people excluding him from their trust list?

IOTW this requires only one not-totally-spineless DT1 member to exclude Vispilio.

Can you suggest any member with those qualities?
It's a rear combination for someone to be not-spineless, have thick skin and brain power to do the right thing and press the kill switch.

Vispilio is on DT1 and Vispilio has added Cacingkemi is on his/her trust list as a result Cacingkemi is now DT2. Base on the trust history of Cacingkemi, Vispilio  should remove that user from his/her trust list.

This is not going to happen any time soon, and I think we all know the reason why.

[suchmoon]

Can you suggest any member with those qualities?
It's a rear combination for someone to be not-spineless, have thick skin and brain power to do the right thing and press the kill switch.

I think the idea is that superheroes shall emerge on their own instead of being nominated.

I did try to shame them into acting but alas.

Should I promise ice cream if they do the right thing? Works with children and dentists, seems like a similar situation here.

[DireWolfM14]

This thread actually brings back memories, lol.  It's been quite some time since this issue has caused any drama, but yeah there's a lot of shady back-scratching that's been taking place with our Turkish members for a while now.  Several months ago I trimmed my trust inclusions and exclusions, and removed a few names.  I figured my list didn't really have any affect on their DT status, and my reviews weren't affected.  Ironically Vispillio wasn't one them.

Currently I'm on DT2, so it doesn't really make a difference, but I've gone ahead and excluded him.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Let's not sugarcoat it. Vispilio (and many others like him) is in DT1 only because of the incestuous back-scratching among Turkish members of this forum, and the rest of DT1 happily ignoring it.

Ah, I was wondering who the clique was, because while I recognize his username I haven't seen any of Vispilio's posts in I don't know how long--maybe never, unless he was ranting in Meta or Reputation about discrimination against Turkish members.  That happened once or twice and I could swear it was him.  I should probably check his post history, but I'm just too goddamn lazy.

Can you suggest any member with those qualities?

Fuck, I've got a spine made out of titanium.  Vispilio needs to be excluded?  Do I have enough pull on DT to make any difference?  I profess that I have no way of knowing, since I stopped paying attention to DT matters a long time ago.

[DireWolfM14]

Fuck, I've got a spine made out of titanium.  Vispilio needs to be excluded?  Do I have enough pull on DT to make any difference?  I profess that I have no way of knowing, since I stopped paying attention to DT matters a long time ago.

You sure do.  All it would take is one more DT1 member excluding Vispillio for him to be removed from DT1.  As for the Negative against Royse777, our friend Morvillz7z has taken care of the issue by excluding Cacingkemi. 

[suchmoon]

But then when I checked the user's profile nothing else surprised me. Archived profile. I do not expect more from a 1XBit promoter.

Turns out this user was calling 1xBit a scam not too long ago:

Forget it guys, you will not get your winnings.
You should consider yourself to be lucky if you receive your deposit back.
1xbit has 2 rules

1. If you lose your money with betting, then there are no problems. No terms are violated
2. If you start winning money, your account will be closed because terms are suddenly violated and your bets will be voided. If you are lucky, they refund your deposit.

Most probably there is no any. the only problem is that a customer is winning some bets, and that is the moment when 1xbit call the shots and block the account.
So far nobody is able to detect which company is running this scam site. He should be really lucky if 1xbit pays him his deposit back.

Kinda fits the pattern, I remember in the Yobit debacle many Turkish members had zero concern about the scam they were promoting.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Turns out this user was calling 1xBit a scam not too long ago

I don't remember the post, but there was a member who pointed out that a couple of more accounts that were or are still carrying the 1xbit signature were calling 1xbit scam but decided to join the campaign a few months later.
I wouldn't be surprised if all those accounts were controlled by one individual.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You sure do.  All it would take is one more DT1 member excluding Vispillio for him to be removed from DT1. 

Good, thank you.  Done and done.  Vispilio has been tilda'ed on my trust list for good and for all.  And not on a whim either, because I reviewed his sent feedback and it is full of lunacy to put it mildly, as are his posts.

Anything else I can help you with?  Have a nice day and thank you for shopping with Get The Fuck Off DT.

[AB de Royse777]

Strength must be -1 for someone to drop off DT1, and the effect is immediate, not next week.

Obvious if anyone starts including random users in their DT network then they should be "~". I have ~ed Vispillio

I wouldn't worry so much about him and his feedback (your profile looks fine to me), because anyone can see his red colored profile and he didn't provide any proof for his claims.

I was not worried but surprised to see a -1 rating on my profile while checking with ;dt suffix on the profile URL :-D

[NeuroticFish]

this requires only one not-totally-spineless DT1 member to exclude

I was said many times to be too negative, but excluding only one member may not be enough.
I mean that the gang has more than one DT1, hence retaliation is possible.

[Timelord2067]

I can't recall where I saw it only recently, but isn't Vispillio a merit source?

Is there a list of such users?

[NeuroticFish]

I can't recall where I saw it only recently, but isn't Vispillio a merit source?

Is there a list of such users?

I don't know of a list, but if you look at his bpip stats you'll see:

Has sent 6344 merit 2712 times, to 502 profiles ( 12.6 merit/profile)
Has earned 1091 merit 582 times, from 135 profiles

And we both know that this kind of stats are possible only if one is merit source.

[Timelord2067]

mhanbostanci likewise is using their propped up position on DT2 to make trust feedback threats via their local community connections:

mhanbostanci

2020-05-11

Reference

The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.

[AB de Royse777]

I can't recall where I saw it only recently, but isn't Vispillio a merit source?

Is there a list of such users?

I don't know of a list, but if you look at his bpip stats you'll see:

Has sent 6344 merit 2712 times, to 502 profiles ( 12.6 merit/profile)
Has earned 1091 merit 582 times, from 135 profiles

And we both know that this kind of stats are possible only if one is merit source.

If my memory strikes correct then he was a merit source but later it was revoked. Don't count on me, I could be mixing him with someone else too.

[suchmoon]

this requires only one not-totally-spineless DT1 member to exclude

I was said many times to be too negative, but excluding only one member may not be enough.
I mean that the gang has more than one DT1, hence retaliation is possible.

Ideally every single one of those shitheads should be excluded but that's not really possible, is it? One step at a time.

If someone is choosing to not do the right thing for fear of retaliation (with words on an internet forum, mind you) then they shouldn't really be in DT1, but that's a whole other story.

If my memory strikes correct then he was a merit source but later it was revoked. Don't count on me, I could be mixing him with someone else too.

No, he almost certainly is still a merit source: