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At this point we've probably all been infected with it... I know I've been confirmed as having been exposed and received notifications 3 times. I never bothered to get tested because I just got a good night's sleep and went about my life, but for a large % of human beings this would be the covid experience. Children likely wouldn't even need the good night's sleep. The fact we're vaccinating kids and getting them on a regular booster schedule for what should be considered harmless to them genuinely makes me sad to the point where I question parents that would do this to their children.
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At this point we've probably all been infected with it... I know I've been confirmed as having been exposed and received notifications 3 times. I never bothered to get tested because I just got a good night's sleep and went about my life, but for a large % of human beings this would be the covid experience. Children likely wouldn't even need the good night's sleep. The fact we're vaccinating kids and getting them on a regular booster schedule for what should be considered harmless to them genuinely makes me sad to the point where I question parents that would do this to their children.
Why does it make you sad? Vaccines are harmless. There are no negatives to taking vaccines. Do you have health insurance? Why?
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January 13, 2022, 04:19:43 AM |
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At this point we've probably all been infected with it... I know I've been confirmed as having been exposed and received notifications 3 times. I never bothered to get tested because I just got a good night's sleep and went about my life, but for a large % of human beings this would be the covid experience. Children likely wouldn't even need the good night's sleep. The fact we're vaccinating kids and getting them on a regular booster schedule for what should be considered harmless to them genuinely makes me sad to the point where I question parents that would do this to their children.
Why does it make you sad? Vaccines are harmless. There are no negatives to taking vaccines. Do you have health insurance? Why? It makes me sad thinking about children being injected with substances for no logical reason. I think they should be educated to the actual dangers and given a choice. I don’t have health insurance. I guess because I am smart enough to budget for my medical expenses myself and I know how much money is wasted for insurance companies to make a profit and employ millions of people with income and I don’t like to throw my money away. Same reason I don’t have a financial advisor.
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At this point we've probably all been infected with it... I know I've been confirmed as having been exposed and received notifications 3 times. I never bothered to get tested because I just got a good night's sleep and went about my life, but for a large % of human beings this would be the covid experience. Children likely wouldn't even need the good night's sleep. The fact we're vaccinating kids and getting them on a regular booster schedule for what should be considered harmless to them genuinely makes me sad to the point where I question parents that would do this to their children.
Why does it make you sad? Vaccines are harmless. There are no negatives to taking vaccines. Do you have health insurance? Why? It makes me sad thinking about children being injected with substances for no logical reason. I think they should be educated to the actual dangers and given a choice. I don’t have health insurance. I guess because I am smart enough to budget for my medical expenses myself and I know how much money is wasted for insurance companies to make a profit and employ millions of people with income and I don’t like to throw my money away. Same reason I don’t have a financial advisor. I think whoever told you that vaccination of children is injecting children with substances for no logical reason has been lying to you. There is a good reason for getting vaccinated. Vaccination improves your immune system to enable it to recognize the infection and deal with it before the infection causes permanent organ damage. Whoever told you that is not, does not understand how the immune system works and is making things up as they go. BTW, the logical reason for vaccinating everyone is so that everyone gets antibodies without getting infected with the virus.
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January 13, 2022, 07:12:28 PM |
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I honestly can say that I've almost made a full recovery, within a short period. I'll have a few blood tests to make sure everything is okay, which I should have had them even before Covid. My girlfriend, on the other hand, still has a terrible cough, we went to the hospital yesterday and were informed that it was the Delta variant, and not the Omicron. We were prescribed an inhaler for now.
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Covid19 is not something one will pray for,or because the vaccine has been discovered,one should be careless and not ensuring he or she maintains that safety meaaures that will make him or her not to contract the sickness. These safety measure which is regular washing of hands, avoiding social distancing and using of nose mask is what I have always done which has made me to be covid19 free.
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Covid19 is not something one will pray for,or because the vaccine has been discovered,one should be careless and not ensuring he or she maintains that safety meaaures that will make him or her not to contract the sickness. These safety measure which is regular washing of hands, avoiding social distancing and using of nose mask is what I have always done which has made me to be covid19 free.
I had never been infected since the start of the pandemic, generally, I was always careful when it came to washing hands/using antiseptic wash, wearing mask correctly and so on. It all needed the inability to avoid some stupid friend's birthday to get infected. Since the PCR showed the Delta variant, I believe that our symptoms would be way worse if we weren't vaccinated.
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January 14, 2022, 05:52:57 PM |
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Covid19 is not something one will pray for,or because the vaccine has been discovered,one should be careless and not ensuring he or she maintains that safety meaaures that will make him or her not to contract the sickness. These safety measure which is regular washing of hands, avoiding social distancing and using of nose mask is what I have always done which has made me to be covid19 free.
I had never been infected since the start of the pandemic, generally, I was always careful when it came to washing hands/using antiseptic wash, wearing mask correctly and so on. It all needed the inability to avoid some stupid friend's birthday to get infected. Since the PCR showed the Delta variant, I believe that our symptoms would be way worse if we weren't vaccinated. You have done the exact thing by avoiding Birthday party, only awareness can prevent this pandemic. For me, till now not infected. There are almost 6 months has been Lockdown in our city. We all complied with the lockdown, I did not go out except necessarily, As well as adhering to clean cleanliness. And I took the full doses of the vaccine in time, Needless to say, the mask is more beneficial than the vaccine. Since the coronavirus is contagious and spreads through whooping cough, the mask has kept me safe from getting corona.
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... You are injecting children with substances if you choose to vaccinate them, the question lies whether a vaccine would be effective in children, what side effects might factor in to the cost–benefit analysis (and part of that discussion, how deadly COVD is to children). Vaccines are generally safe for children. Though I would present the valid concern of myocarditis that can be induced by the vaccine in healthy children, that would not have otherwise been exposed to myocarditis had they gotten a case of asymptomatic or mild Covid. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.23.21268276v1.fullIn an updated self-controlled case series analysis of 42,200,614 people aged 13 years or more, we evaluate the association between COVID-19 vaccination and myocarditis, stratified by age and sex, including 10,978,507 people receiving a third vaccine dose. Myocarditis risk was increased during 1-28 days following a third dose of BNT162b2 (IRR 2.02, 95%CI 1.40, 2.91). Associations were strongest in males younger than 40 years for all vaccine types with an additional 3 (95%CI 1, 5) and 12 (95% CI 1,17) events per million estimated in the 1-28 days following a first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; 14 (95%CI 8, 17), 12 (95%CI 1, 7) and 101 (95%CI 95, 104) additional events following a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; and 13 (95%CI 7, 15) additional events following a third dose of BNT162b2, compared with 7 (95%CI 2, 11) additional events following COVID-19 infection. An association between COVID-19 infection and myocarditis was observed in all ages for both sexes but was substantially higher in those older than 40 years. These findings have important implications for public health and vaccination policy.
In the paper, it's also mentioned that the risk of myocarditis is smaller than that of a Covid infection, which is often used by proponents of mass child vaccination to suggest the outcome of mass vaccination would then result in a lesser net caseload of myocarditis. Of course, as I alluded to above, this fails to discern the gradations of COVID. Not every COVID case is serious, and in fact, the younger and healthier you are, the less chance you have of a severe outcome. So it would only be valid to compare the cases of mild/asymptomatic Covid myocarditis to the vaccine induced myocarditis instances. For obvious reasons, this hasn't been done because of how difficult it is to track asymptomatic/mild Covid cases in children. The stats just aren't there, countries do not test every child regularly. I've seen some studies which suggest a second dose of the vaccine in younger males might increase the chance of myocarditis up to 16x. Seems as if someone at particularly high risk, or in some vulnerable state, would be better off with a vaccine. An otherwise healthy individual doesn't have much incentive to take it, let alone children that are mostly healthy.
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January 14, 2022, 06:38:35 PM |
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Covid19 is not something one will pray for,or because the vaccine has been discovered,one should be careless and not ensuring he or she maintains that safety meaaures that will make him or her not to contract the sickness. These safety measure which is regular washing of hands, avoiding social distancing and using of nose mask is what I have always done which has made me to be covid19 free.
I had never been infected since the start of the pandemic, generally, I was always careful when it came to washing hands/using antiseptic wash, wearing mask correctly and so on. It all needed the inability to avoid some stupid friend's birthday to get infected. Since the PCR showed the Delta variant, I believe that our symptoms would be way worse if we weren't vaccinated. You have done the exact thing by avoiding Birthday party, only awareness can prevent this pandemic. For me, till now not infected. There are almost 6 months has been Lockdown in our city. We all complied with the lockdown, I did not go out except necessarily, As well as adhering to clean cleanliness. And I took the full doses of the vaccine in time, Needless to say, the mask is more beneficial than the vaccine. Since the coronavirus is contagious and spreads through whooping cough, the mask has kept me safe from getting corona. The best thing is to avoid people who are careless altogether, that specific friend has been infected twice, and was the second time she was putting as in danger. She hasn't been and doesn't plan in being vaccinated, I had plenty of reasons to dislike her, but this was the final straw. I'd prefer to avoid hanging out in enclosed areas such as bars, clubs etc. we'll have plenty of chances to do it safer, in the summer, enjoying a cocktail at some sunny beach bar, in an outdoor setting. It might not be deadly for most, but I'd rather be on the safe side.
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I've had covid 19 and it took me 3 weeks to recuperate. The symptoms I experienced were the same as what you mentioned, but what made the difference was that my sense of taste and smell when I was affected by COVID-19 really became dull. my nose can't smell at all even though the perfume is applied to the nose. and my tongue can't taste the food but after 3 weeks my sense of smell and taste gradually returned and returned to normal.
from my experience covid 19 is not much different from the common cold. the difference is that our senses of smell and taste really don't seem to work.
and don't panic because in my experience it's not as dangerous as reported. because I managed to heal myself.
I quarantined myself for 3 weeks. and recovered without any strange drugs. I only take fever reducer. and eat lots of fruit.
Three weeks doesn't sound like a simple common cold. Anyway, I'm glad you're okay, I didn't have any loss of smell or taste, my girlfriend does have compromised taste though. Apart from fever and sore throat, I also felt (and still feel to some degree) disorientated, or a little off, not sure how to express it correctly. Anyway, I'm almost fine now, and I've returned to work, but still I'm getting this tiredness and dizziness feeling. I feel like the common cold. but what makes it 3 weeks is calculated with the recovery time which takes 3 weeks. like you who at that time still felt dizzy and weak. So weakness and dizziness usually go away in 3 weeks. and finally I got hit by omicron again. and omicron is lighter than corona. Omicron can heal itself in just 3-7 days. that's what i experienced.
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I wouldn't know - we never get tested. Like when most people here get symptoms they just stay at home and don't request for a test since that would just mean that they'd all get locked up at home. Got symptoms during the initial surge in 2020 and then when the delta variant came around but so far still doing fine.
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Both my girlfriend and I have been infected with Covid-19, not sure which variant though. The disease was passed to us from one of her stupid friends, who was careless and was out drinking every night. Symptoms include, headache, sudden fever (up to 38 C), sore throat and coughing, while my tonsils look swelled and inflamed.
This is the fourth day after I got diagnosed as positive, while the quarantine supposedly last 5 days. I highly doubt it that I'll be able to get back to work by Saturday. Have you been recently infected? What symptoms did you have, and how long did the infection last?
Actually, it's hard for me to answer because I have never tested. Since the Covid-19 breakout till now I had some of those symptoms that you had but not all of them at once. I didn't face any major consequences after that and took two doses of Pfizer. I hope very soon I will be able to get my booster dose too. This pandemic cause great problems to our society and many people have died but, to be honest personally I knew only one person who got infected and died because of Covid-19. I think the media spread more fear than they should be.
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Covid is kinda like scurvy. Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. Covid is a vitamin D deficiency. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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BTW, the logical reason for vaccinating everyone is so that everyone gets antibodies without getting infected with the virus.
Everyone doesn't need it. Children absolutely don't need the vaccine, and there's emerging evidence of inflammatory properties that the vaccine and boosters are causing in children. Sweden has not recommended that some children, I believe 5-12, take the vaccine for this very reason. Most healthy people wouldn't need the vaccine either but took it anyways. Their choice, they probably never knew their relative risk from COVID to begin with. Older folks need the vaccine and probably need boosters. With omicron, none of this vaccine discussion matters. Vaccines are hardly effective at all with the new variant. We'll just restart these vaccine discussions when the "omicron" vaccine releases. Most people are done with COVID.
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April 10, 2022, 04:56:52 AM |
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BTW, the logical reason for vaccinating everyone is so that everyone gets antibodies without getting infected with the virus.
Everyone doesn't need it. Children absolutely don't need the vaccine, and there's emerging evidence of inflammatory properties that the vaccine and boosters are causing in children. Sweden has not recommended that some children, I believe 5-12, take the vaccine for this very reason. Most healthy people wouldn't need the vaccine either but took it anyways. Their choice, they probably never knew their relative risk from COVID to begin with. Older folks need the vaccine and probably need boosters. With omicron, none of this vaccine discussion matters. Vaccines are hardly effective at all with the new variant. We'll just restart these vaccine discussions when the "omicron" vaccine releases. Most people are done with COVID. While I get your point, the virus isn't as dangerous as it was when it first came out, due to mutations, its illness is pretty mild for the majority of people. However, my opinion states that the vaccine is a way to minimise risk in case of infection. While most people will develop mild symptoms (including myself when I was infected), there's still a small chance of developing severe illness. For instance, the mother of a friend of mine, aged 54, unvaccinated, died after contracting the disease. She was perfectly healthy, no underlying health conditions. Her health quickly deteriorated and was put in an ICU, but to no avail.
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BTW, the logical reason for vaccinating everyone is so that everyone gets antibodies without getting infected with the virus.
Everyone doesn't need it. Children absolutely don't need the vaccine, and there's emerging evidence of inflammatory properties that the vaccine and boosters are causing in children. Sweden has not recommended that some children, I believe 5-12, take the vaccine for this very reason. Most healthy people wouldn't need the vaccine either but took it anyways. Their choice, they probably never knew their relative risk from COVID to begin with. Older folks need the vaccine and probably need boosters. With omicron, none of this vaccine discussion matters. Vaccines are hardly effective at all with the new variant. We'll just restart these vaccine discussions when the "omicron" vaccine releases. Most people are done with COVID. I think it is a matter of some people not understanding that practicing good healthy hygiene is the first and best vaccine everyone needed in other not to be infected by the covid-19 and for the record we have seen some people who have the shot and still get the virus. Yes, everyone doesn't need the vaccine, an example is me and I have to get infected with the virus cause I always play by the rules. Aside from that, I have seen an adult who took the shot and she dies the next day which automatically shows that the vaccine is never for everyone.
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Covid is kinda like scurvy. Scurvy is a vitamin C deficiency. Covid is a vitamin D deficiency. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Is that scientific data or it was a joke? I haven't heard anything like this till now. Will you please elaborate on your statement? You often can find lots of information on a subject by doing an Internet search on various combinations of words. Try searching on "covid, vitamin d deficiency" - https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=covid%2C+vitamin+d+deficiency&ia=web. And don't forget to peruse the results of your search. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) EDIT: After perusing the results, ask yourself the more serious question: Why don't Dr. Fauci and the medical even recommend vitamin D? Or, why don't they strongly recommend it? Maybe there's no money in it like there is in vaccines, right?
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April 10, 2022, 04:35:09 PM |
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BTW, the logical reason for vaccinating everyone is so that everyone gets antibodies without getting infected with the virus.
Everyone doesn't need it. Children absolutely don't need the vaccine, and there's emerging evidence of inflammatory properties that the vaccine and boosters are causing in children. Sweden has not recommended that some children, I believe 5-12, take the vaccine for this very reason. Most healthy people wouldn't need the vaccine either but took it anyways. Their choice, they probably never knew their relative risk from COVID to begin with. Older folks need the vaccine and probably need boosters. With omicron, none of this vaccine discussion matters. Vaccines are hardly effective at all with the new variant. We'll just restart these vaccine discussions when the "omicron" vaccine releases. Most people are done with COVID. I think it is a matter of some people not understanding that practicing good healthy hygiene is the first and best vaccine everyone needed in other not to be infected by the covid-19 and for the record we have seen some people who have the shot and still get the virus. Yes, everyone doesn't need the vaccine, an example is me and I have to get infected with the virus cause I always play by the rules. Aside from that, I have seen an adult who took the shot and she dies the next day which automatically shows that the vaccine is never for everyone. Good hygiene certainly plays an important role, following the Covid-19 guidelines, along with proper wear of mask severely decreases your chances of infection. However, vaccines do not promise protection from contracting the disease, but they do promise to lower the mortality rate, which has decreased greatly after they rolled out. Vaccine complications exist, however, compared to the billion of doses that have been distributed, the percentage of complications is nearly zero.
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