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January 26, 2022, 03:14:12 PM
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From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
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January 26, 2022, 03:53:29 PM
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Don't live in the delusion that something like this could ever happen, nor that it will ever happen. There is too much difference between the various nations that have emerged over thousands of years, and the borders of countries exist for a very good reason, as do national currencies. A world with one nation and one currency is a utopia, and I don't believe it can happen on Planet Earth - but maybe one day someone will try something like this on another planet.

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth, but they don't have the currency - the world is so advanced that it's not even needed anymore - if you need something, just ask for a replicator Wink

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January 26, 2022, 04:15:57 PM
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Don't live in the delusion that something like this could ever happen, nor that it will ever happen. There is too much difference between the various nations that have emerged over thousands of years, and the borders of countries exist for a very good reason, as do national currencies. A world with one nation and one currency is a utopia, and I don't believe it can happen on Planet Earth - but maybe one day someone will try something like this on another planet.

If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth, but they don't have the currency - the world is so advanced that it's not even needed anymore - if you need something, just ask for a replicator Wink


Okey, I agree with you that practically this is not possible but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.
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January 26, 2022, 04:34:51 PM
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Anyway I think that time for oneness has gone and will not come back. It is now an individual race, speed or whatever you can call it to survive. There are different theories about this and one of it is the survival of the fittest. You need to Google on that, I guess it should be by Spencer or he wrote something on that.

It is gone forever, even the communist system of government is not really united anymore and if you would research the bible too, there is a story on tower of Babel that God caused the people who were united to  build edifice and "sky scraper" for the purpose of seeing God (this is the history of different tongues or speech anyway).

The point is no, that time can never ever come back except if there would be something like that after the rapture  Grin

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January 26, 2022, 04:36:45 PM
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Okey, I agree with you that practically this is not possible but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

There's still the chance technology will push us towards this at some point though (it won't last long but I can see it happening for a few years if the open sourced versions of a lot of things become the most advanced - before someone privately advances further).

A lot of science already isn't done for the money (especially astrophysics) afaik so you could probably expect more advancements there if something like that were to happen.

(most companies/wealth has been cyclical and don't last very long - if the ceo and cto of any large tech firm die, so might the company).
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January 26, 2022, 04:59:29 PM
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It can't be possible for the world to become one nation, the world is too big for everyone to be doing things in common. I think the world is never meant to be one, the way which the world is right now with different nations is the reason why the world is developing through the differences in currency,  economy, and resources.

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January 26, 2022, 05:07:37 PM
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It is very difficult to imagine a single currency. As said it will not materialize in any case. We have different countries, ideologies, and state principles. From the type of culture, diverse nationalities do not mean that we seem to have to generalize in terms of finances. What needs to be done is to continue to increase tolerance and work for hand in hand to eliminate intolerance. Both in terms of the use of currency and unity in the state.

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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

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If you say so, then I will assume that in the world we now live in we will know no conflict, evil and the world will be calm. But in reality humans have another side so they make groups that will later become the forerunners of the nation and state. Likewise with currency, it becomes one of the identities that can show the identity of the nation and state.

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January 26, 2022, 05:16:27 PM
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This may not be possible to see. Wars and conflict like you said have brought differences in our economic development and system. Every nation struggle for identification and building there own product. Blockchain and bitcoin are also ready for such but humans won't allow self enrichment to be taken over by such unifying force. I don't think is possible thing to see all systems together as one and having one currency and identify.
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January 26, 2022, 05:34:03 PM
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If you like reading things such as conspiracies, you have probably heard and read about a one-world government. That also pertains to one-world currency. The funny thing is that isn't that a coincidence that bitcoin is uniting all of us and agreeing that this is our money that doesn't have any boundary and is good to spend wherever we are? But you know what, realistically speaking, you see countries, boundaries, they're having wars and disagreement with each other.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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January 26, 2022, 05:37:47 PM
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From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
Some think of this as some kind of utopia, but is it any surprise that some of the most vilified persons that have ever lived are precisely those that tried to unite most of the world under a single banner? And it is not a mystery to understand why, because in order to do so you need to trample over the wishes of the people that you are integrating to that society, so do not deceive yourself, a single country with a single currency basically means that a single country was able to conquer the whole world, and that is not a good thing.
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January 26, 2022, 05:57:35 PM
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We should rather talk about one world one currency.
The problem with one currency is the fact that they won't be able to evaluate the price and value country by country, most of the times a currency makes it easier to place any particular country based on the economy. It won't just be conflicts there would be other problems as well at the end there are other countries as well which would not agree to such terms. Therefore I do think having something like bitcoins which is not controlled by any particular country or state or a body makes it so much easier, it helps regulate all the centralized probelms as well. The ease of transferring it internationally is also very convenient. Therefore I do think we are doing a great job with Bitcoins for the moment but we do need a lot of time to adjust and make it more popular.

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January 26, 2022, 06:09:15 PM
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IMO, it will never come true in any way. We know controllers can change direction easily. The world's governments don't want this to happen, let alone the Dollar elites who are bathing in paper money. Even if we hear historical news how past wars also tried to unite all countries in one currency, it would still be a coup in the most heinous way.
Not much different from the current condition, the supervisors hide to monitor the paper money so that it runs smoothly. Sounds like a conspiracy, but it sure is. We just always try to ignore it or not believe it. Everything is designed that way.

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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
Maybe I will add about the imagination that is still lacking. What about the world of Elon Musk who wants to make Mars a new place to travel and a new place to live for mankind to avoid the apocalypse.

I know the sophistication of technology makes people think their imagination is far enough. Apart from that kind of thinking, I think it's perfectly fine. To realize this dream, is today's technological sophistication enough? the answer is no and still not. Rockets that go to the moon also often fail to launch? isn't this rationale that might be a task in the future? Furthermore, the technological sophistication of Nikola Tesla is still a mystery? is it some kind of future solved answer?

The answer is only one, today even a second in the future is still an unsolved mystery? Could there be a time machine? Grin

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From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

I think that human desire is the only thing fueling the future for us. Whether its greed for money, desire to keep on living, desire to feel as happy as possible or psychological desires that give the same dopamine rush to the human brain, its all a pre-programmed "instinct" to want more and more. And the only way we can get more is by becoming more complex, more advanced and in the end, whether it may be our destruction or our only way to survive, remains to be seen.

I just hope we don't embarrass our species in front of any higher beings watching us....

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but if that ever happens what will happen with our science and technology? Internal conflict over the century slowed down our technological advancement. If there was no conflict between different human races then the achievement of humans over science and technology could be more advanced. Maybe we could colonize other planets by now.

On the other hand, if you already have the imagination and thoughts to that extent, then what comes to your mind for the realization of such a thing?

Actually, it's hard to imagine what would happen exactly but I have a free mind so it won't bother me to make my own imagination. I think we could be so advanced that our technology would allow us to harness solar energy directly from the sun and we won't need any fossil fuel. People would exchange stored energy and wealth people would live in the sky. Communication would be much easier than now. My imagination may look like a sci-fi movie but after seeing such technological advancement in this century I think that could be the reality.
Maybe I will add about the imagination that is still lacking. What about the world of Elon Musk who wants to make Mars a new place to travel and a new place to live for mankind to avoid the apocalypse.

I know the sophistication of technology makes people think their imagination is far enough. Apart from that kind of thinking, I think it's perfectly fine. To realize this dream, is today's technological sophistication enough? the answer is no and still not. Rockets that go to the moon also often fail to launch? isn't this rationale that might be a task in the future? Furthermore, the technological sophistication of Nikola Tesla is still a mystery? is it some kind of future solved answer?

The answer is only one, today even a second in the future is still an unsolved mystery? Could there be a time machine? Grin

This universe is so vast that it is not possible to know all of its mysteries. Who knows what humans will discover next. Maybe we could build a time machine that could harness information from the past. In the 19th century, many things were sophisticated that we are using in our daily life. Nikola Tesla had a mind that could imagine the future and we have seen that by his invention. Who knows maybe in the future we could have another mind like him or even better. Human brains are becoming smaller in size but getting stronger as well. What I think is "Today's imagination is the reality of the tomorrow."
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From the beginning of humans, we have created boundaries between ourselves by lots of conflict over the century. Our greediness and eagerness for more power make us intelligent animals. Humans are capable of their own destruction. But what if those never happen? what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?

Necessity is the mother of all discovery. Human won't be technologically superior if there wasn't any conflict between them. Because of was humans made such discovery that was not only help to win the war but also benefited them many ways too. Nuclear energy was discovered and used for destruction but now we are using it for energy. If you look at the history then you will see most of the technological advancement happens when the world seen war.

I am not saying war is good so that we would see more technological advancement but what I said is the reality..

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January 26, 2022, 07:27:06 PM
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what will be the scenario of the current world if there is only one nation and one currency and humans invest their full strength for human resource development and the development of science and technology? What do you think is that even possible in the future and what will be the benefits and inconvenience of it?
I believe a situation like that will be monotonous, and like they say, "Monotony kills interest" I believe in variety being the spice of life and as such will be displeased with a single world currency. If we've just one currency, it then means we wouldn't be having the Forex market. There won't be the trading of currency pairs. Come to think of it, there won't be the innovation called Bitcoin. We all wouldn't even be here. Do you see how an impossibility that is now?

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Its popular for investors to encourage diversification. Don't put all of your eggs in one basket, they say.

If diversity is important and valuable than what arguments do we have for single currencies or single nations?


If you look at some sci-fi series like Star Trek, there's a united nation on Earth, but they don't have the currency - the world is so advanced that it's not even needed anymore - if you need something, just ask for a replicator Wink


AFAIK they use credits and some form of transactional exchange in starfleet. I can't find the screenshot. But there is a scene in one of the trek TV series where there is a readout for "medical credits" in sickbay.

Mention of it is omitted. Its a thing where no one is certain exactly how money or the economy works in star trek so its never shown.
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