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March 30, 2022, 05:20:05 PM
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Tagoe may be a cherry picked fight on this one against Garcia but it's not because he is weak, it is because he can unveil Garcia's true limitations or whatsoever. We can't also forget that this match is for Garcia so that he will lift his name higher, so we can expect a very interesting and tight match.

Yup, you are right. This fight is intended for Garcia's successful return to the ring after a long layoff. I just don't know how prepared Garcia mentally in this fight. Last time I have read that Canelo, his friend took a swipe at him saying that he is now focused on a fight and the latter took it hard which might affect his preparation for this fight.

Let us wait for more betting options on this fight, ATM ML for Garcia is not a good bet.

Intended and supposed to lift Garcia's name again and make it fresh from his inactivity, but how about if the supposed goal is not achieved in Garcia's side? I'm just saying because an upset ain't also impossible in this fight but hopefully the kid is mentally alright to give a good fight.

Maybe there's some changes in the few days to come but for now, yes let's just wait.

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March 30, 2022, 07:47:58 PM
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Let us wait for more betting options on this fight, ATM ML for Garcia is not a good bet.

Since Ryan Garcia is a heavy favorite to the point that Emmanuel Tagoe, with a Moneyline odds of @7, is considered an easy opponent for him, I think we can't see any good betting options for Garcia. It's likely a Winner per Round or when the fight will end but that was a hard pick.

Maybe I will place a risky bet for Garcia to win at TKO on rounds 6-8, depending on my pre-match analysis.

But unfortunately, over just a week to go before the fight, it's still only Moneyline as a betting option available.

Yeah, for us who doesn't have that much capital to bet on a ML to get at least a decent returns, we should at least wait for more betting options like the range per round wherein Garcia will win. A like the round 6-8 too, but I'm thinking that it could be less than that as Garcia is eager to show that he still got it. And maybe he will target the winner of the Kambosos vs Haney after this. So he need to win big here in order to secure a fight with the either of the two.

It is not even worth it to bet on the money line because the returns is not that decent or pretty, but I think that's still fine because it is still a safe bet and for those who doubt or think that maybe Tagoe here will upset Garcia then why not throw a few couple of dollars because maybe that bet will somehow generate you good amount if indeed Tagoe will win.

Hopefully, there will be another betting option availabe next week. Let's just wait, we still have over a week.

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March 31, 2022, 05:15:12 AM
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I totally agree, Garcia has all the advantage but who knows, maybe Tagoe will be on his best against Ryan and maybe put everything he have in this fight.
That's a huge upset if Tagoe would beat Garcia, and since Garcia has some kind of mental problem, a possible loss might make his problem gets bigger and could end his career. Sorry, my imagination is very negative, but I'm just thinking of a possible scenario here.

It's fine mate because what you were saying is really possible to happen in this fight, you know when a boxer has got some kind of mental problems especially if it was just happened recently then his opponent will really use that as their advantage, and for Tagoe here, it is highly possible that he will use Garcia's weakness to get in his head and upset him in-order to get a victory.

Although for me the chance are very slim for an upset, by still we really don't know if Garcia is fully healthy at this point. So this fight is very  important to him because it will give a positive impact and could trigger another run for Ryan.

In interview he has talk about a possible Loma fight (this will be good), and he still wants to fight Teo Lopez at 140 lbs. But if he is upset in this fight then it might take sometime for him to recover again. So its going to be 50/50.

Chances are still chances, and if Garcia's mental problems still remains up until the day of the fight that chances of upset will be high, as I said Tagoe will surely use that as his advantage to bait the young Garcia.

The kid must solve his mental problems first and that is his priority for now if he wants his career to prosper in the long run because if he won't take this seriously, then that mental problems will really hunt him especially if he lost to Tagoe.
Here you are absolutely right, it is rare to see that a boxer has this type of problem, especially now that mental health represents one of the things for which athletes have made much known since the Olympics with the USA team, however For me, the problem with boxing lies when the boxers give a purely technical poem, this is something that can happen and hopefully it will not happen here in this fight.

For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .

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March 31, 2022, 05:33:37 AM
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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

We can speculate that he is fully healed with his mental problems, because he was able to go to the gym and train hard and even though their is still questions if he can still fight or not, he can only answer it by moving forward and making a comeback.

So yes, maybe he will show his old self, a more dangerous Garcia who wanted to give a message to the rest of the division that he is back, both mentally and physical.

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March 31, 2022, 01:49:40 PM
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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

We can speculate that he is fully healed with his mental problems, because he was able to go to the gym and train hard and even though their is still questions if he can still fight or not, he can only answer it by moving forward and making a comeback.

So yes, maybe he will show his old self, a more dangerous Garcia who wanted to give a message to the rest of the division that he is back, both mentally and physical.

I'm pretty sure that Garcia is already planning ahead that's why they choose to fight an unknown fighter. If he wins this, that would convince the team that he is ready for a bigger challenge, probably against a real champion with a real chance to beat him.

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March 31, 2022, 02:54:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Garcia is already planning ahead that's why they choose to fight an unknown fighter. If he wins this, that would convince the team that he is ready for a bigger challenge, probably against a real champion with a real chance to beat him.

Is it just me I just noticed but this fight is not getting enough hype or attention, yes it's Ryan's comeback but compared to other fights it's not getting hype, both fighters are nice to each other in the conference Tagoe is very excited for the match he wants to go with the fight in the conference but it's not yet the fight and promoters don't want fighters to fight for free, it seems Tagoe want to hype, we'll see in the weight in.
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March 31, 2022, 03:11:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure that Garcia is already planning ahead that's why they choose to fight an unknown fighter. If he wins this, that would convince the team that he is ready for a bigger challenge, probably against a real champion with a real chance to beat him.

Is it just me I just noticed but this fight is not getting enough hype or attention, yes it's Ryan's comeback but compared to other fights it's not getting hype, both fighters are nice to each other in the conference Tagoe is very excited for the match he wants to go with the fight in the conference but it's not yet the fight and promoters don't want fighters to fight for free, it seems Tagoe want to hype, we'll see in the weight in.

Yes, because it's not like the old fights of Garcia where he fights a popular fighter. Tagoe might have a good record but he is not popular in the boxing world, but let's see how the sales would go as the fight is approaching. I'm sure this fight would still be profitable although not as big as the previous fights of Ryan Garcia.
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April 01, 2022, 06:52:21 AM
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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

We can speculate that he is fully healed with his mental problems, because he was able to go to the gym and train hard and even though their is still questions if he can still fight or not, he can only answer it by moving forward and making a comeback.

So yes, maybe he will show his old self, a more dangerous Garcia who wanted to give a message to the rest of the division that he is back, both mentally and physical.

I'm pretty sure that Garcia is already planning ahead that's why they choose to fight an unknown fighter. If he wins this, that would convince the team that he is ready for a bigger challenge, probably against a real champion with a real chance to beat him.

I don't know who is going to be available for him though, Kambosos vs Haney is already scheduled and Tank vs Rolly Romero is being work as well.

But it's good if he can win this fight first and see how he performs. And then his team can gauge if he is ready for a real champion or to fight another tune up to better prepared himself physically.

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April 01, 2022, 07:16:50 AM
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Let us wait for more betting options on this fight, ATM ML for Garcia is not a good bet.

Since Ryan Garcia is a heavy favorite to the point that Emmanuel Tagoe, with a Moneyline odds of @7, is considered an easy opponent for him, I think we can't see any good betting options for Garcia. It's likely a Winner per Round or when the fight will end but that was a hard pick.

Maybe I will place a risky bet for Garcia to win at TKO on rounds 6-8, depending on my pre-match analysis.

But unfortunately, over just a week to go before the fight, it's still only Moneyline as a betting option available.

Yeah, for us who doesn't have that much capital to bet on a ML to get at least a decent returns, we should at least wait for more betting options like the range per round wherein Garcia will win. A like the round 6-8 too, but I'm thinking that it could be less than that as Garcia is eager to show that he still got it. And maybe he will target the winner of the Kambosos vs Haney after this. So he need to win big here in order to secure a fight with the either of the two.

It is not even worth it to bet on the money line because the returns is not that decent or pretty, but I think that's still fine because it is still a safe bet and for those who doubt or think that maybe Tagoe here will upset Garcia then why not throw a few couple of dollars because maybe that bet will somehow generate you good amount if indeed Tagoe will win.

Hopefully, there will be another betting option availabe next week. Let's just wait, we still have over a week.

Yes, that's what I'm trying to say, it's better to wait till near the fight itself and hopefully our favorite sport bookies will have a good options, like the usual, per round or range in round. The risk is high but the pay is good, so we might be taking that instead of the ML which is not very attractive for us average bettors or just doesn't have the huge capital to put into that kind of small odds.

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April 01, 2022, 10:23:25 AM
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Yes, because it's not like the old fights of Garcia where he fights a popular fighter. Tagoe might have a good record but he is not popular in the boxing world, but let's see how the sales would go as the fight is approaching. I'm sure this fight would still be profitable although not as big as the previous fights of Ryan Garcia.

There's no excitement in the eyes of Ryan Garcia when they meet but Tagoe is very excited during their conference they are very cordial with each other of course it's very different when they are very different, I'm very curious about Rayan Garcia persona in the conference will he still display the same skills that he has shown in the past, will the left hook again become Garcia's best weapon to beat Tagoe.

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April 01, 2022, 10:37:46 AM
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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

I never know Garcia had depression problems until I have read your discussions about his mental health.
Well, that's kinda serious mental disease, many have took their lives and Garcia also confess that he tried to kill himself before.
Anyway, that's not easy to overcome, I hope his training and passion to the sport makes him forget about that kind of mental disease.
This doesn't change the odds anyway, Garcia will still be the favourite.

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April 01, 2022, 10:43:41 AM
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For Tagoe it could be a great surprise that he can win, in fact it is a great advantage that Tagoe can take advantage of in the fight, although it is not the idea and it would be a somewhat dirty strategy, I hope that they only limit themselves to giving a fight based on sports .


The mental problem has been existing for quite a while for Garcia. He rest for a while to solve that problem, and now on his come back, I'm sure that problem is already gone, or it that still remains at least he knows how to manage himself since he already submitted himself for healing.

I expect a more dangerous Ryan Garcia after a layoff in boxing to focus on solving his problem.

I never know Garcia had depression problems until I have read your discussions about his mental health.
Well, that's kinda serious mental disease, many have took their lives and Garcia also confess that he tried to kill himself before.
Anyway, that's not easy to overcome, I hope his training and passion to the sport makes him forget about that kind of mental disease.
This doesn't change the odds anyway, Garcia will still be the favourite.

The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

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April 01, 2022, 11:03:48 AM
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The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

We'll see if he is really cured we'll see that in the fight if he gets better and he is the same Garcia, people expect too much from Garcia to achieve a lot because of being an internet superstar, but being an internet superstar is very much different from boxing superstar, he should limit his exposure on the internet and concentrate on being a boxer, and don't try to impress people.

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The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

We'll see if he is really cured we'll see that in the fight if he gets better and he is the same Garcia, people expect too much from Garcia to achieve a lot because of being an internet superstar, but being an internet superstar is very much different from boxing superstar, he should limit his exposure on the internet and concentrate on being a boxer, and don't try to impress people.

I didn't know that he is an internet superstar? Would you mind telling me how he become popular on the internet?

What I know is that Ryan Garcia is a young and a great boxer, that's why he is popular in the boxing world, and with aggressiveness and KO wins, that makes him more popular, in fact, it's hard to spot that he is suffering from a mental problem because he looks so successful.

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The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

We'll see if he is really cured we'll see that in the fight if he gets better and he is the same Garcia, people expect too much from Garcia to achieve a lot because of being an internet superstar, but being an internet superstar is very much different from boxing superstar, he should limit his exposure on the internet and concentrate on being a boxer, and don't try to impress people.

I didn't know that he is an internet superstar? Would you mind telling me how he become popular on the internet?

What I know is that Ryan Garcia is a young and a great boxer, that's why he is popular in the boxing world, and with aggressiveness and KO wins, that makes him more popular, in fact, it's hard to spot that he is suffering from a mental problem because he looks so successful.
As far as I know he has a lot of followers in the social media, and even other youtube influencers invite them (I saw, but I totally forgot what channel it is).

So I would agree that he is an internet superstar and that's why his critics is going after him because of himself like being more busy in the social media than boxing. Yes, mental issues is hard to identify specially for sport personalities because they are almost in the limelight.

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April 01, 2022, 08:57:14 PM
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The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

We'll see if he is really cured we'll see that in the fight if he gets better and he is the same Garcia, people expect too much from Garcia to achieve a lot because of being an internet superstar, but being an internet superstar is very much different from boxing superstar, he should limit his exposure on the internet and concentrate on being a boxer, and don't try to impress people.

He needs to focus and be back with heavy trainings to make sure that when he fight fans will see him as a fighter not an internet star, like what you just said we will see if everything is good for Garcia once he step inside the ring and showcase his talent against Tagoe, only a few days to wait and fans who wanted to see Garcia back inside the ring will witness his talent again.

Expecting some good exchange of solid punches between these two fighters, it would entertain more fans and viewers. Adjustment may also be done. Garcia is much expected to perform.

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The mental problem has been cured already, that's why he is now back in boxing because he is ready to face the big challenges. And of course, he has to start fighting an unknown fighter because he was out for a while and he just want to ensure he is really ready for a big fight.

We'll see if he is really cured we'll see that in the fight if he gets better and he is the same Garcia, people expect too much from Garcia to achieve a lot because of being an internet superstar, but being an internet superstar is very much different from boxing superstar, he should limit his exposure on the internet and concentrate on being a boxer, and don't try to impress people.

I didn't know that he is an internet superstar? Would you mind telling me how he become popular on the internet?

What I know is that Ryan Garcia is a young and a great boxer, that's why he is popular in the boxing world, and with aggressiveness and KO wins, that makes him more popular, in fact, it's hard to spot that he is suffering from a mental problem because he looks so successful.
Being great in boxing can bring you a lot of fans so technically he’s a superstar and talented, because of his winning matches it attract more followers for him. Its sad to see someone suffering from a mental illness but its really good that we can see Garcia again to have a fight. I still expect the same thing from him, he’s great, fast and have a good punches, I’m confident that he will remain undefeated here.

What’s the current odds for this match?

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What’s the current odds for this match?

Here's the betting odds.

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Ryan Garcia -1250
Emmanuel Tagoe +700

https://www.sportsbetlistings.com/boxing/ryan-garcia-vs-emmanuel-tagoe-betting-line-and-how-to-bet-guide/18067/

You can also check in sportsbet.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/garcia-ryan-vs-tagoe-emmanuel-620ca5f64ca6989dad27e311

And another site;
https://rollbit.com/sports?bt-path=%2F10%2F1669819103235411968%2F1669819103285743616%2F2105632346672869376
Tagoe is 8.6, better odds than sportsbet.
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April 02, 2022, 01:57:49 PM
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Tagoe is 8.6, better odds than sportsbet.

That's a trap, I wouldn't take that 8.6 against Ryan Garcia because we know how capable he is especially against a fighter that has not fought big fights in the US. I'm not saying Tagoe has no chance, but if we are talking of a chance, that should be a slim chance.

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