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For those of you who don't know, "Times truly Change", this is why we shouldn't write things or people off too early, tomorrow might come with a lot of changes and surprises.

Let me tell you guys a story that relates to the picture above - -

Once upon a time, there was an old woman, one day, she was hungry and felt like eating akidi(akidi is a kind of beans but not actually like the beans we all know), she remembered she had some old akidi stored up somewhere, she located it and brought it out, behold, according to her, the akidi was too bad and can't be cooked and eaten, she called them useless threw them away inside the bush and looked for something else to eat.

The akidi which she threw away all dried up inside the bush due to the sun, eventually, the raining season came, and after a heavy downpour, the akidi began to germinate, they grew and began to bear fruits.
One day, the old woman walked by the bush and sew that behold, there were akidi plants in the bush with good ripe fruits ready to be plucked, the woman being old, could not just walk into the bush in other not to be bitten by poisonous reptiles, so, she had to look for a way to get money, so she could hire some laborers to help her clear the bushes and make the path clean enough so she could access those akidi she ones called useless and threw away., then she thought to herself, "if only I knew earlier, I would have planted this akidi around my compound, by now, I wouldn't have to go through the stress of looking for money to pay labourers to clear the Bush and make the path clean, and again, if I had planted the akidi around my compound, the akidi would have produced more for me to eat now because I would have maintained them properly right from the time they started germinating.


Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).



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February 08, 2022, 08:28:47 PM
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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).
Believing in bitcoin 12 years ago would gave taken a lot as most people were vary wary of scams and also accustomed to the general way of transacting and what is accepted as money. Bitcoin is quite technically complicated and with zero or no value then, there was no incentive for anyone to actually take out their time to study.
Wikipedia and all those who wrote off bitcoin would wish they have not, but it is not too late to get in.

It might be important to note that there were no hundreds of thousands of users back then and wiki would have likely sold off long before now.

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February 08, 2022, 08:28:59 PM
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Yes, time change because we have seen many people or countries that rejected bitcoin some years ago and later accepted bitcoin as a decentralized currency in the world. Many people thought bitcoin will not cross 4 years old in the community before it will disappear from the community, but right now bitcoin has crossed 10 years with signs and wonders in the world economy and also to the users in the community.

Those people that rejected bitcoin will definitely accept bitcoin back right now because bitcoin is preparing to rally to $80k through out this year 2022 for many people to have a good interest on decentralized currency .

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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).
Believing in bitcoin 12 years ago would gave taken a lot as most people were vary wary of scams and also accustomed to the general way of transacting and what is accepted as money. Bitcoin is quite technically complicated and with zero or no value then, there was no incentive for anyone to actually take out their time to study.
Wikipedia and all those who wrote off bitcoin would wish they have not, but it is not too late to get in.

It might be important to note that there were no hundreds of thousands of users back then and wiki would have likely sold off long before now.
But this is why it is important to remain silent if there is something we do not understand, I would not blame people for not believing in bitcoin back then or by not understanding its nature, but to call it a scam? Satoshi unlike the developers of today never made a presale of coins or anything like that, if you wanted some bitcoin you could mine it with your personal computer so it was basically being given away for free, how so could anyone say that bitcoin was a scam back then?
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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).


A very regrettable situation that they do have in mind as of these days or years on which if they have just accepted donation into those early times then they might be rich as of this moment
but well in facing up reality then it would neither be a sweet or a stressful one which you couldnt really make yourself get out with those regrets and disappointment.

It is really just the same into those people who had been known or aware of its existence when it doesnt almost have a value and just simply ignore it
but when the time comes then this is where regrets do starts.

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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).

A very regrettable situation that they do have in mind as of these days or years on which if they have just accepted donation into those early times then they might be rich as of this moment
but well in facing up reality then it would neither be a sweet or a stressful one which you couldnt really make yourself get out with those regrets and disappointment.

It is really just the same into those people who had been known or aware of its existence when it doesnt almost have a value and just simply ignore it
but when the time comes then this is where regrets do starts.

We can't blame them because they also had the pressure surrounding them at that time. A lot were labelling bitcoin as scam even if they have no idea about it. Wiki should have just posted facts about bitcoin and what it is all about. But owed to surrounding propagandas against bitcoin, they took it down. And now, with the funny turn of events, they are now accepting bitcoin donations.
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February 08, 2022, 10:47:39 PM
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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).
This is for sure but we can't blame them for labeling bitcoin as a scam before. That was a year where online scams were proliferating and people were still unknown how to determine scams. That's why it's just a normal reaction for them to think of it as a scam.
Well, as they accept donation in bitcoin. There would still be people that would be glad to send them bitcoin as a donation because they've been helpful. But just like you, I'll keep my btc.  Cheesy

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February 08, 2022, 10:49:50 PM
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Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).

A very regrettable situation that they do have in mind as of these days or years on which if they have just accepted donation into those early times then they might be rich as of this moment
but well in facing up reality then it would neither be a sweet or a stressful one which you couldnt really make yourself get out with those regrets and disappointment.

It is really just the same into those people who had been known or aware of its existence when it doesnt almost have a value and just simply ignore it
but when the time comes then this is where regrets do starts.

We can't blame them because they also had the pressure surrounding them at that time. A lot were labelling bitcoin as scam even if they have no idea about it. Wiki should have just posted facts about bitcoin and what it is all about. But owed to surrounding propagandas against bitcoin, they took it down. And now, with the funny turn of events, they are now accepting bitcoin donations.
You got some valid points on here on which as a business or company and in the time you are dealing on something which you arent sure off and the surrounding factors do really have some negative views about it and labelling it directly as a scam then it would really be just normal that you would really be ending up on the same views or impressions which you would really be going with the flow or what the community is been talking into.
There's always a second chance though which it isnt really too late to make out some u-turns just like into those people who hadnt believed bitcoin when it was just starting.

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February 08, 2022, 10:55:20 PM
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This is something common. Rather than a lesson it is the reflection of human minds. Just think of something new into the world stating it holds value, but it can't be the same as the traditional fiat. During those days people aren't much used to technology. All were depending over the traditional fiat and gold. So, very few will be having an opposite mentality whereas the majority will point it as scam. In such a way Wikipedia have mentioned it a scam.

If things were advanced as now during the year 2010 people will be good enough to understand technology and Wikipedia might've added it to get donations. As the thread title says, it is all about the time. Advancement happens with time, and the change happens accordingly.

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That's how people learn. It's hard to know which will bear fruit at the current time, but as long as you know what you are doing and you are not hurting anybody in what you believe in, I think you will be okay. The lost opportunity is the problem with this one, and you cannot turn back time now; all you can do is accept what happened and move on.

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They learned and they understand and now they adopt bitcoin.
There are a lot of changes that happened recently, if you will listen to that news the number of countries that have been legalizing bitcoin was increased and big individual and constitutional investors have been invested in Bitcoin. The reason before they criticized Bitcoin is that it is a fraud, Ponzi scheme, or a threat to the financial system which is bad in their view.

But now, look at them, they have changed their mind and accepted bitcoin because they have already learned about it and gained knowledge which is bitcoin has been proven and tested that it can profit in a long run.
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Not only Wikipedia, but it also seems the story is the same on Facebook, Youtube, and even Google, they banned Bitcoin before and now, they are fully accepted Bitcoin as payment or to store value.  Before only El Salvador legalized Bitcoin and now the number of Bitcoin adoption has been increased.

The good thing is they understand the technology behind Bitcoin and how it will work, and only foolish thing who think that they can ban or even think to shut down Bitcoin, but instead, adopting it and making wallets that they can regulate users are they usually do.

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February 09, 2022, 12:52:08 AM
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True, but we shouldn't blame them really. It was hard to believe on something that popped out suddenly as a form of currency, with what all the jargon that Wikipedia people probably didn't even know or understand about. Plus, well, they weren't alone. A lot of groups and companies probably believed it to be the same. We should be glad instead that they changed, after all, if they still refused to acknowledge Bitcoin even after all this time, then something is indeed wrong.

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Bitcoin 12 years ago was is not used widely but only to those who are really looking forward to seeing its future use. And then a few years later it was demonized as only for criminals online and gamblers. I guess Wikipedia was just not prepared to be demonized like Wikileaks.

Couldn't complain about what it could have been if they did start early but they still can start now. Times changed. We now see how important to have a currency that is not confiscatable by private companies like Paypal.

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For those of you who don't know, "Times truly Change", this is why we shouldn't write things or people off too early, tomorrow might come with a lot of changes and surprises.

Let me tell you guys a story that relates to the picture above - -

Once upon a time, there was an old woman, one day, she was hungry and felt like eating akidi(akidi is a kind of beans but not actually like the beans we all know), she remembered she had some old akidi stored up somewhere, she located it and brought it out, behold, according to her, the akidi was too bad and can't be cooked and eaten, she called them useless threw them away inside the bush and looked for something else to eat.

The akidi which she threw away all dried up inside the bush due to the sun, eventually, the raining season came, and after a heavy downpour, the akidi began to germinate, they grew and began to bear fruits.
One day, the old woman walked by the bush and sew that behold, there were akidi plants in the bush with good ripe fruits ready to be plucked, the woman being old, could not just walk into the bush in other not to be bitten by poisonous reptiles, so, she had to look for a way to get money, so she could hire some laborers to help her clear the bushes and make the path clean enough so she could access those akidi she ones called useless and threw away., then she thought to herself, "if only I knew earlier, I would have planted this akidi around my compound, by now, I wouldn't have to go through the stress of looking for money to pay labourers to clear the Bush and make the path clean, and again, if I had planted the akidi around my compound, the akidi would have produced more for me to eat now because I would have maintained them properly right from the time they started germinating.


Lesson - if Wikipedia hadn't written off bitcoin as a scam and went ahead to accept it as a form of donation since 2010, alot of people would have donated hundreds of thousands of bitcoins to them back then since bitcoin was almost worth less then, by now, they would have all retired as millionaires and billionaires. And today, they've added bitcoin back as a form of donation, but I will rather donate usd to them than donate my precious bitcoins(my digital gold).



More importantly if they deleted it. Who authored the original? Smiley Anyone have a record?

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12 years ago the information about Bitcoin was still so minimal that they are very likely to think of it's like an online business (and I remember those days when a lot of things like that boomed and ended in scams.) that always ends up on a scam, nowadays they already easily know what Bitcoin is and the benefits of using and getting it, it's never too late to change if it's a good thing.

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Bitcoin 12 years ago was is not used widely but only to those who are really looking forward to seeing its future use. And then a few years later it was demonized as only for criminals online and gamblers. I guess Wikipedia was just not prepared to be demonized like Wikileaks.

Couldn't complain about what it could have been if they did start early but they still can start now. Times changed. We now see how important to have a currency that is not confiscatable by private companies like Paypal.

Acceptable, 12 years ago the real purpose of bitcoin was to pay online at low fees and also quickly, then later on it went on a bull run, and after that bitcoin became known because it is said to be used in illegal transactions on the deep web, such as buying guns and drugs, which is demoralizing because if we talk bitcoin at that time it was like illegal, but now that the price has reached another ATH, people's views of bitcoin have changed and they are eager to invest in bitcoin.
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12 years ago the information about Bitcoin was still so minimal that they are very likely to think of it's like an online business (and I remember those days when a lot of things like that boomed and ended in scams.) that always ends up on a scam, nowadays they already easily know what Bitcoin is and the benefits of using and getting it, it's never too late to change if it's a good thing.
At the beginning of the emergence of Bitcoin, of course there were still many people who were unfamiliar with it, moreover the information was also not as much as it is today,
Bitcoin is now the king of crypto and I don't think there's any doubt about it

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Bitcoin 12 years ago was is not used widely but only to those who are really looking forward to seeing its future use. And then a few years later it was demonized as only for criminals online and gamblers. I guess Wikipedia was just not prepared to be demonized like Wikileaks.

Couldn't complain about what it could have been if they did start early but they still can start now. Times changed. We now see how important to have a currency that is not confiscatable by private companies like Paypal.

Acceptable, 12 years ago the real purpose of bitcoin was to pay online at low fees and also quickly, then later on it went on a bull run, and after that bitcoin became known because it is said to be used in illegal transactions on the deep web, such as buying guns and drugs, which is demoralizing because if we talk bitcoin at that time it was like illegal, but now that the price has reached another ATH, people's views of bitcoin have changed and they are eager to invest in bitcoin.

It's really funny because Bitcoin has since been extensible like a protocol that has bundled together pre-existing capabilities it has along with advanced ideas and hardware to run such apps with extended protocols on top of it. People really don't know the lengths of that until they learn the capabilities of the successive releases of the software but also the innovation that sprung out from transactions on the ledger (Counterparty, Mastercoin/Omni, taproot - (combining multiple sigs into one for more privacy and using less bytes)... Seriously all of these expansions are just the tip. The real fun will be when the automated on-chain value is equivalent to its fiat price and not the aggregation of exchanges being its "price".. people will have their minds blown. I use study and read all these protocols and we have to think of Bitcoin as still being undervalued. Like said earlier people are only thinking about Bitcoin in terms of what they're used to being accepted by others as money - aka fiat. Not the people who write on forums like this with software from before I had pubic hair. But you know what I mean. Even the "price" going up - we all know there's value written into the chain from the entire history of its ledger, we know that one days the tables and fiat rates and aggregator web sites we use won't be reflective of its automatically, machine read "valuation" - much like a company's valluation when someone buys what they believe a company to be worth. Fortunately we do have digital ledgers that scientists corporations and astrophysicists can put into an AI aggregator and it can tell us without ANY latency at a certain point what the value per unit is on this technology and its extended use - we have no clue how far the reaches go but I know that we won't live in a world where we depend on supply and demand and authoritarians telling us in the media and govt what's worth what and what's not worth anything. We are the one's who realize that value has nothing to do with fiat prices in the near future. Fact is - people will be more than happy to directly accept Bitcoin for whatever you want to transact when they stop thinking they need fiat.

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For those of you who don't know, "Times truly Change", this is why we shouldn't write things or people off too early, tomorrow might come with a lot of changes and surprises.

We can't blame people to think of Bitcoin as a scam thing 12 years ago as it was their first impression and lack of support and proof of its legality. But as the moment has come that many people could prove it and makes a lot of money, they had to change and embrace the reality. it wasn't surprising anyway as surely this comes even the leaders of different countries are into that kind of speculations, and gladly, many had changed as well and give their support just like WIKIPEDIA. They'll now know that they are wrong.

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