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February 10, 2022, 08:46:55 AM
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Couple of days ago Academy released nominees for the 94th Oscar awards in 24 categories so like in previous year I've decided to start the thread where we can talk about how we think will (or at least should) win the award. All odds are taken from https://m.nicerodds.co.uk/academy-award. So far they provided odds for only couple of main categories so I will fill up rest of those when they become available.

Official website: https://www.oscars.org/



Here are all the nominees in 24 categories:

Best picture
The Power of the Dog 1.8
CODA 2
Belfast 15
King Richard 23
Dune 26
West Side Story 41
Licorice Pizza 51
Drive My Car 67
Don't Look Up 81
Nightmare Alley 101

Best director
Jane Campion (The Power of the Dog) 1.12
Kenneth Branagh (Belfast) 7
Paul Thomas Anderson (Licorice Pizza) 11
Steven Spielberg (West Side Story) 34
Ryusuke Hamaguchi (Drive My Car) 46

Best actor
Will Smith (King Richard) 1.12
Benedict Cumberbatch (The Power of the Dog) 7
Andrew Garfield (Tick, Tick... Boom!) 11
Denzel Washington (The Tragedy of Macbeth) 34
Javier Bardem (Being the Ricardos) 46

Best actress
Jessica Chastain (The Eyes of Tammy Faye) 1.67
Nicole Kidman (Being the Ricardos) 4
Penelope Cruz (Parallel Mothers) 6
Kristen Stewart (Spencer) 8.5
Olivia Colman (The Lost Daughter) 10

Best Supporting Actor
Troy Kotsur (CODA) 1.2
Kodi Smit-McPhee (The Power of the Dog) 4.5
Ciaran Hinds (Belfast) 26
J.K. Simmons (Being the Ricardos) 34
Jesse Plemons (The Power of the Dog) 34

Best Supporting Actress
Ariana DeBose (West Side Story) 1.08
Kirsten Dunst (The Power of the Dog) 7
Aunjanue Ellis (King Richard) 19
Judi Dench (Belfast) 26
Jessie Buckley (The Lost Daughter) 34

Best Original Screenplay
Licorice Pizza 1.95
Belfast 2.2
Don't Look Up 8
The Worst Person in the World 10
King Richard 26

Best Adapted Screenplay
CODA 1.5
The Power of the Dog 3
The Lost Daughter 8
Drive My Car 17
Dune 26

Best International Feature Film
Drive My Car 1.08
The Worst Person in the World 8.5
Flee 11
Lunana: A Yak in the Classroom 21
The Hand of God 21

Best Documentary Feature
Summer of Soul (...or, When the Revolution Could Not Be Televised) 1.25
Flee 3.75
Attica 13
Ascension 26
Writing with Fire 26

Best Animated Feature
Encanto 1.06
The Mitchells vs the Machines 8
Flee 15
Luca 19
Raya and the Last Dragon 34


Best visual effects
Dune 1.04
Spider-Man: No Way Home 10
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings 15
No Time to Die 21
Free Guy 34

Best cinematography
Dune 1.22
The Power of The Dog 3.85
The Tragedy of Macbeth 10
West Side Story 34
Nightmare Alley 41

Best production design
Dune 1.36
Nightmare Alley 3.3
West Side Story 11
The Tragedy of Macbeth 17
The Power of The Dog 21

Best Sound
Dune 1.08
No Time to Die 10
West Side Story 10
The Power of The Dog 17
Belfast 21

Best Original Score
Hans Zimmer (Dune) 1.15
Jonny Greenwood (The Power of The Dog) 4.5
Germaine Franco (Encanto) 10.3
Nicholas Britell (Don't Look Up) 17
Alberto Iglesias (Parallel Mothers) 29

Best original song
No Time To Die - Billie Eilish & Finneas O'Connell (No Time to Die) 1.4
Dos Oruguitas - Lin Manuel Miranda (Encanto) 3.25
Be Alive - Beyonce & DIXSON (King Richard) 8.5
Down To Joy - Van Morrison (Belfast) 17
Somehow You Do - Diane Warren (Four Good Days) 17

Best Costume Design
Cruella 1.19
Dune 4.35
West Side Story 14.5
Cyrano 19
Nightmare Alley 29

Best Makeup & Hairstyling
The Eyes of Tammy Faye 1.36
Coming 2 America 5.5
Dune 5.5
Cruella 9
House Of Gucci 17

Best documentary short
The Queen of Basketball 1.8
Three Songs For Benazir 3
Audible 4
Lead Me Home 15
When We Were Bullies 15

Best Live Action Short
The Long Goodbye 1.36
Ala Kachuu - Take and Run 5.5
The Dress 5.5
Please Hold 11
On My Mind 15




Here's the template for those that want to share predictions, let's see who can guess the most! I still have to watch couple of important movies from the list before I make mine.

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Best makeup & hairstyling:
Best film editing:
Best supporting actor:
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Best live action short:
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Best original screenplay:
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February 10, 2022, 11:02:16 AM
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I was thinking you are going to skip this year Oscar rewards so I just wanted to ask you today about that, and I even bookmarked Oscars Guide page on IMDB website as a reminder Smiley
From all the movies I only sort of watched Dune and I don't think this movie will win Oscar reward, but lots of people like it so it will probably win some reward if not main one.
The Power of the Dog looks like interesting western movie and it has lowest betting odds so I might check it out, as well as Nightmare Alley directed by Guillermo del Toro.
Is any betting website accepting Bitcoin for betting on Oscars?


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February 10, 2022, 01:53:56 PM
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I think so too that Dune and King Richard may take an award even if it's not that of a huge one here and a side bet for the best animated feature and original score, I think I'm rooting for Encanto in this category, just my speculation.

Is any betting website accepting Bitcoin for betting on Oscars?
Do check Sportsbet.io https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights
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February 10, 2022, 02:01:10 PM
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I was thinking you are going to skip this year Oscar rewards so I just wanted to ask you today about that, and I even bookmarked Oscars Guide page on IMDB website as a reminder Smiley
I was just waiting for the academy to announce nominations, didn't want to make a thread before that. Wink


From all the movies I only sort of watched Dune and I don't think this movie will win Oscar reward, but lots of people like it so it will probably win some reward if not main one.
Since Dune is a science fiction movie, and those never won a best picture Oscar, chances are not the best. I like Dune and for me it was one of the best movies I saw last year but I wouldn't put my money on it. At least not a lot. It will win couple of Oscars for sure though, mainly in visual and sound categories. Just look at this Sardaukar scene, simply brilliant.



The Power of the Dog looks like interesting western movie and it has lowest betting odds so I might check it out,
Those who are expecting standard western movie will be disappointed. Setting looks like in a classic western movie, but this story could have been set just about anywhere. First and foremost its a slow pace drama, and something like that is not everyone's cup of tea.



Is any betting website accepting Bitcoin for betting on Oscars?
Sportsbet does, but they also have only few main categories available, at least for now.

edit: @rhomelmabini beat me to it

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I think so too that Dune and King Richard may take an award even if it's not that of a huge one here and a side bet for the best animated feature and original score, I think I'm rooting for Encanto in this category, just my speculation.

Is any betting website accepting Bitcoin for betting on Oscars?
Do check Sportsbet.io https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights
Oscars markets also available on Fortunejack and Stake

but to those looking for more Oscars lines (the three bookies above only offer the big 4: best picture, actor, actress and director), Betnomi blows the rest out of the water by offering lines in almost every award (20 out of 23)

From all the movies I only sort of watched Dune and I don't think this movie will win Oscar reward, but lots of people like it so it will probably win some reward if not main one.

it's gotta win Original Score... it's about time Hans Zimmer wins another oscar, . Nicholas Britell, the guy who made the well-received music for Moonlight a few years ago, is also nominated, and while i haven't watched Don't Look Up, im sure he made a really good work there but, surely, surely this is the year of Hans Zimmer, right? DUNE music kicks ass

btw, ma boy Hans has tougher competition in the BAFTA this year... Nicholas Britell was nominated for a BAFTA, and also Alexandre Desplat (strangely he wasn't nominated for an Oscar). For those who don't know, Desplat is the same guy won the Oscars and BAFTA for The Shape of Water original score (winning over Zimmer's Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049) and he also won Oscars and BAFTA for The Grand Budapest Hotel (over Zimmer's Interstellar)... i can imagine Hans Zimmer big sigh of relief after not seeing Desplant in the oscars nomination list lol

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February 10, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
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Will Smith nominated for the best actor category is a great height for Him the movie King Richard portrays the life of Richard Williams and it sold out at the box office. It's a good prediction to say that Will Smith will get the Award. His role was superb alongside Tony Goldwyn. I knew Will Smith through my brother and since then I've been following some his movies, he's such a funny guy. Grin

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Will Smith nominated for the best actor category is a great height for Him the movie King Richard portrays the life of Richard Williams and it sold out at the box office. It's a good prediction to say that Will Smith will get the Award. His role was superb alongside Tony Goldwyn. I knew Will Smith through my brother and since then I've been following some his movies, he's such a funny guy. Grin
Yeah, Will Smith is an outstanding actor, I personally love him as well as he's movies, I remember back in the days, the movie that put him in the limelight for me is Men in Black, me and my sister used to love that movie so much when we were still kids.
One of he's latest work which I watched recently is Bel-Air, the movie was actually produced by him, am glad he's been nominated in the best actor category, I won't be surprised at all if he eventually wins it, it's a deserved award.

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Look I can get West Side Story being the last, even though the play was wonderful and amazing, and movie could have been great if done properly, but it wasn't great at all. Belfast is basically the proof that Oscars care about the movie as much as the message it is sending out as well. It has become too political and I am saying this as someone who is progressive as well.

I mean we get it, there have been wrong things in history, are we going to just shoot one each year and give that an Oscar? Is that how it is going to be? Movies that are original will not get credit? Don't Look Up has stirred the pot a lot this year and that is political as well, and the odds are very weird. Like what the hell is 4.00 odds for a movie? That's as sure as it gets, that's terrible, it is not even close to make you want to guess.

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Dune, Cruella, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Raya and the Last Dragon.

Those are the only nominated titles that I've seen. All were ok except for Dune which I can't recommend.

Have to guess the oscars in 2022 will dial down the woke content, following the trend the NFL adopted with a less severe version of players taking a knee in protest. The NFL started out strong with woke content. Then later scaled it back to messages like "end racism" on the backs of helmets.

Oscar ratings in 2021 were the lowest in its history. They will likely make adjustments to address that the way the NFL has.

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@Hydrogen. On Dune if you are not a fan of the books, it will be hard to be a fan of the movie. Dune is not similar to Starwars where it was created like a tv soap opera with lasers, spaceships and as a marketing tool for commerical merchandising. Dune was a very good movie and it deserves the nomination for best picture, I reckon.

The odds for the other categories do not have their odds listed in sportsbooks, however, these are my picks. I have not watched some of the nominated movies. I might change my choices.

Best visual effects: Spider-Man: No Way Home
Best production design: West Side Story
Best international feature:
Best cinematography: Dune
Best original song: Down to Joy (Belfast)
Best documentary short:
Best documentary feature:
Best animated feature: Encanto
Best makeup & hairstyling: House of Gucci
Best film editing: tick, tick… BOOM!
Best supporting actor: Jesse Plemons (The Power of the Dog)
Best supporting actress: Judi Dench
Best live action short:
Best animated short:
Best original screenplay: Belfast (Kenneth Branagh)
Best adapted screenplay: Coda (Sian Heder)
Best original score: Dune
Best sound: Dune
Best costume design: West Side Story

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it's gotta win Original Score... it's about time Hans Zimmer wins another oscar, . Nicholas Britell, the guy who made the well-received music for Moonlight a few years ago, is also nominated, and while i haven't watched Don't Look Up, im sure he made a really good work there but, surely, surely this is the year of Hans Zimmer, right? DUNE music kicks ass
Yep, I think its time for Hans to finally win another Oscar, after 27 years and Lion King. Regarding Dune, I expect 3-5 Oscars, but not the most important one I'm afraid. I would like to be proved wrong though, but wouldn't mind The Power of the Dog winning a Best Picture Oscar either, as I liked that one too.


Oscar ratings in 2021 were the lowest in its history. They will likely make adjustments to address that the way the NFL has.
2020 was generally a bad year when it comes to movie quality so that probably helped Ocscars having such a shitty rating, on top of all that woke agenda that they have.



@Hydrogen. On Dune if you are not a fan of the books, it will be hard to be a fan of the movie. Dune is not similar to Starwars where it was created like a tv soap opera with lasers, spaceships and as a marketing tool for commerical merchandising. Dune was a very good movie and it deserves the nomination for best picture, I reckon.
Dunno, I know plenty of people that never read Dune books yet they liked the movie a lot. Its good that Denis Villeneuve insisted in two movies as one is simply not enough to cover the first book, but I still think that best approach would have been to make high-production series/mini-series out of it to properly cover everything.



By the way, I saw Nightmare Alley last night and it was a big disappointment, Bradly Cooper was a total miscast for that role. I have no idea how that movie ended up with Best Picture nomination.

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@Hydrogen. On Dune if you are not a fan of the books, it will be hard to be a fan of the movie. Dune is not similar to Starwars where it was created like a tv soap opera with lasers, spaceships and as a marketing tool for commerical merchandising. Dune was a very good movie and it deserves the nomination for best picture, I reckon.


I'm a fan of David Lynch's Dune (1984) and the books.

The 2022 rendition of Dune doesn't do the story justice. Atreides disembark onto Arrakis decked out in full body armor. When the Harkonnens attack, the Atreides engage them without the body armor they wore earlier, or much in the way of weapons. This is never explained and doesn't make much sense.

The fictional character of Paul Atreides is supposed to have trained as a soldier and leader from a young age, and be very skilled in these areas. The actor selected to portray Paul Atreides in the 2022 Dune film looks like he was born and bred to be the ultimate accountant. Highly skilled at writing memos and paperwork. Otherwise, completely useless in terms of what the character is supposed to be.

The scene where palm trees are watered is anti science. Trees and plants would be placed inside an enclosure like a greenhouse where water and humidity could be trapped and retained. They would never be planted out in the open bleeding moisture. There are small details like this scattered around the film which are anti science or written by authors who fail to know the most basic aspects of common sense. The ornithopter and carry all designs also may have been flawed, although I can't remember exactly what issues I had with those.

I couldn't recommend 2022 Dune as it simply isn't faithful to the spirit of what the Dune genre stands for.
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It is cool to finally see superhero type of movies getting some acclamation in the disguise of production design and all that but we have to realize that this s basically not a "best movie" category anymore, it is just "which one had a better message with better acting" and that's it.

The day we didn't see End Game on Oscars best movie list, was the day I stopped caring about it as well. Can you imagine? I mean a whole series of movies that started in 2008 with Iron Man and lets say the infinity saga ended with End game (it had far from home) that would be around 25 billion dollars total box office.

I do not care if you like them or not, but if you do not nominate the movie that is the biggest grossing movie ever in existence (avatar reruns made it go back to one) then I am sorry but you are actually not fair and Oscars are a fake sham organization for me.

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@Hydrogen. On Dune if you are not a fan of the books, it will be hard to be a fan of the movie. Dune is not similar to Starwars where it was created like a tv soap opera with lasers, spaceships and as a marketing tool for commerical merchandising. Dune was a very good movie and it deserves the nomination for best picture, I reckon.


I'm a fan of David Lynch's Dune (1984) and the books.

The 2022 rendition of Dune doesn't do the story justice. Atreides disembark onto Arrakis decked out in full body armor. When the Harkonnens attack, the Atreides engage them without the body armor they wore earlier, or much in the way of weapons. This is never explained and doesn't make much sense.

The fictional character of Paul Atreides is supposed to have trained as a soldier and leader from a young age, and be very skilled in these areas. The actor selected to portray Paul Atreides in the 2022 Dune film looks like he was born and bred to be the ultimate accountant. Highly skilled at writing memos and paperwork. Otherwise, completely useless in terms of what the character is supposed to be.

The scene where palm trees are watered is anti science. Trees and plants would be placed inside an enclosure like a greenhouse where water and humidity could be trapped and retained. They would never be planted out in the open bleeding moisture. There are small details like this scattered around the film which are anti science or written by authors who fail to know the most basic aspects of common sense. The ornithopter and carry all designs also may have been flawed, although I can't remember exactly what issues I had with those.

I couldn't recommend 2022 Dune as it simply isn't faithful to the spirit of what the Dune genre stands for.


David Lynch’s Dune was very scattered. He tried to force everything in one movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac_7VInKnow

My only annoyance on Denis Villeneuve’s version is the incompleteness in introduction of the Dune universe, the politics, the guilds and the history. We might see this in the next movies, however.

They did not have body armor because they were not ready. Dr. Yueh turned off the shields and there was a surprise attack from the Harkonnens. It was detailed in the book. Gurney Halleck was also separated and he was assumed dead.

Paul is trained, however, he was not a soldier. In the book, it was also revealed to him that he was meant to be a mentat. Paul was also only 15 years old when they went to live in planet Arrakis.

The date palms were also described similarly in the book but by Dr. Yueh through talking to Jessica. Blame Frank Herbert if this is anti science. The movie is only following what is written in the book.

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Will Smith nominated for the best actor category is a great height for Him the movie King Richard portrays the life of Richard Williams and it sold out at the box office. It's a good prediction to say that Will Smith will get the Award. His role was superb alongside Tony Goldwyn. I knew Will Smith through my brother and since then I've been following some his movies, he's such a funny guy. Grin
Yeah, Will Smith is an outstanding actor, I personally love him as well as he's movies, I remember back in the days, the movie that put him in the limelight for me is Men in Black, me and my sister used to love that movie so much when we were still kids.
One of he's latest work which I watched recently is Bel-Air, the movie was actually produced by him, am glad he's been nominated in the best actor category, I won't be surprised at all if he eventually wins it, it's a deserved award.

I also think that Will Smith deserves it, he is a person who has always had an impeccable career, and if I have seen all the sagas of Men in Black, not to mention the Prince of Bell Air, I think that this time Will Smith can do history, besides that the film seemed good to me, we hope that in the Academy they take that path and some pertinent considerations so that he can win, as I said before, he deserves it.

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Have to guess the oscars in 2022 will dial down the woke content, following the trend the NFL adopted with a less severe version of players taking a knee in protest. The NFL started out strong with woke content. Then later scaled it back to messages like "end racism" on the backs of helmets.

Oscar ratings in 2021 were the lowest in its history. They will likely make adjustments to address that the way the NFL has.
I don’t know about that, the ratings of the Oscars if I am not mistaken have been tanking for years, if they did not cared about it back then why would they care now? It has gotten so bad that whenever I hear that a movie is acclaimed by the critics instead of this being a sign of a good movie it is a sign of which movie I should avoid, which is why despite increasing the number of movies I have been watching lately I have not watched a single one of those that are nominated to win the best picture award.
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I do not really understand why there are so many laudatory and good reviews about the film Belfast?  I think that this is a rather mediocre film, mixed with some kind of childhood memories of the screenwriter and some kind of local nostalgia for the old days.  Completely boring and not very interesting film. 
I will be surprised if the academicians will award him in any nominations. 
I didn't like the movie.

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February 13, 2022, 09:21:57 AM
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My only annoyance on Denis Villeneuve’s version is the incompleteness in introduction of the Dune universe, the politics, the guilds and the history. We might see this in the next movies, however.
Its simply impossible to cover everything in two 2 and a half hours movies. As I said before, proper approach would be high-budget mini series but considering everything, I think that Villeneueve did a good job, certaiiny better than Lynch (I like his version too by the way).


Paul is trained, however, he was not a soldier. In the book, it was also revealed to him that he was meant to be a mentat. Paul was also only 15 years old when they went to live in planet Arrakis.
Exactly this. I don't understand complaints about Chalamet coming from people that (probably) think MacLachlan was a better choice. People often keep forgetting that Paul is only 15 years old and to me Chalamet looks closer to that age, even though he is only 1 year younger than Kyle was when he made Dune. On top of that, Chalamet is generally much better actor now than MacLachlan ever was.



It has gotten so bad that whenever I hear that a movie is acclaimed by the critics instead of this being a sign of a good movie it is a sign of which movie I should avoid, which is why despite increasing the number of movies I have been watching lately I have not watched a single one of those that are nominated to win the best picture award.
Well, if you avoid movies just because they are nominated in Best Picture award, you are doing the same mistake as those who think that nomination=good movie. It's true that Oscars had questionable winners/nominations over the years but that doesn't mean that there are no good movies among nominated ones.

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February 13, 2022, 08:21:39 PM
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I was just waiting for the academy to announce nominations, didn't want to make a thread before that. Wink
So tell me did you watch all the movies nominated for this year Oscar rewards, and what do you think is the best movie in your opinion?
Just don't tell me it's Dune pleeease  Tongue
I don't know exact date for picking Oscar winners, but maybe I can watch one or two movies you are recommending from this list (excluding Dune).
Maybe they should make some nice movie about Bitcoin and Satoshi next time, I would watch that...  and I hear Netflix recently ordered new series about Bitfinex hack and money laundering scheme:
https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-orders-doc-series-about-alleged-cryptocurrency-laundering-scheme


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February 13, 2022, 10:29:32 PM
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So tell me did you watch all the movies nominated for this year Oscar rewards, and what do you think is the best movie in your opinion?
Nah, haven't seen all movies yet. I am kinda behind the schedule at the moment, still have to watch few. Tomorrow's plan is to watch either Coda or Belfast.


Just don't tell me it's Dune pleeease  Tongue
Nah it's not Dune, (even though I quite enjoyed that one, especially first part of the movie) so far it's The Power of the Dog but I am not so sure that you will like that one, unless you are a fan of slow burn movies. Worst one so far has been Nightmare Alley, big disappointment as I generally like Guillermo del Toro movies.


I don't know exact date for picking Oscar winners, but maybe I can watch one or two movies you are recommending from this list (excluding Dune).
Haven't really figure out what kind of movies you like so its kinda hard to give any recommendation.


Maybe they should make some nice movie about Bitcoin and Satoshi next time, I would watch that...
Tbh, I don't think us who are into crypto for a longer time would be satisfied if they make something like this. Thing is, they would probably dumb it down in order to attract average viewers, and make stuff up to be more exciting, disregarding the facts as that's what they always do. I mean, we will certainly get movies that will cover that topic, but I doubt that we gonna get anything good.


and I hear Netflix recently ordered new series about Bitfinex hack and money laundering scheme:
https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-orders-doc-series-about-alleged-cryptocurrency-laundering-scheme
Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that one.

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