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March 07, 2022, 05:19:30 AM |
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Is it still a vulnerability to take advantage of free money, such as a signup bonus? Create a large number of accounts in order to receive the signing up bonus and transfer it to your wallet, for example. In my opinion, it has long been known that a gambler will open a large number of accounts and deposit the money into a single wallet in order to amass a large sum of cash. However, this is only valid in the past, as the majority of signup bonuses are now locked and cannot be withdrawn from the site.
Signup bonus usually comes up with the wagering requirements. You need to wager a particular amount before you are eligible for the withdrawal of that bonus. Even if we consider it legal, to create as many accounts, no one can't be lucky to retain all the balance in gambling in order to fulfill the wagering requirements. He will lose money and most of the accounts will be zero. If he is lucky to survive and make money, he can withdraw but there is a likely chance that gambling sites will find it fishy that many accounts are being made from a single IP and they may ask for KYC for suspected cases.
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March 07, 2022, 07:56:07 PM |
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... Signup bonus usually comes up with the wagering requirements. You need to wager a particular amount before you are eligible for the withdrawal of that bonus. Even if we consider it legal, to create as many accounts, no one can't be lucky to retain all the balance in gambling in order to fulfill the wagering requirements. He will lose money and most of the accounts will be zero. If he is lucky to survive and make money, he can withdraw but there is a likely chance that gambling sites will find it fishy that many accounts are being made from a single IP and they may ask for KYC for suspected cases.
This is right, most of the casinos that offer a welcome bonus have the policy of 'one account per user', and if they find someone cheating they will freeze all the accounts. Users can get caught by their IP, but cookies can make this job too.
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March 07, 2022, 08:33:18 PM |
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There were previous stances were besides these so called race time condition,java web token were used to exploit these casinos,from what it seems ,its always the new ones,since the big ones already had their fair shares of people trying to break in their system and probably already fixed many of these issues.
If the new casinos need to have more funds so they can secure the site, then I think this is possible as long as you offer a legit site, hackers and scammers can easily go on any site and collect the details, the gambling site should do everything to avoid any incidents like this, we are on a great time already where there’s a more strict way to protect the site.
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March 07, 2022, 09:23:28 PM |
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If they wont really be putting up some importance on security neither they are running off a casino or exchange then it would surely be having that toll or effect later on which they shouldnt really be that confident.
Not only players could exploit possible security lapses or those common hackers around on trying out to snip if they could really bypass any service or platforms security and these are indeed common targets.
Somehow only few incidents that we are seeing about hacking incidents but we shouldnt really be that too confident.
Yeah and I won't be too confident if I am a casino site owner. It is not a good practice if you won't upgrade the security of the site and as what khaled0111 said, prevention is better than cure. It's better to be safe than sorry and it would be a problem if ever the platform you own is hacked and hacker was able to get some funds even if it's not all of it but refunding your customers would be a huge loss on profit plus the customers won't be confident enough to gamble in a site as what khaled0111 said which is they will lose the trust of their customers. Security is one of the best things that you should ensure out because once the site is been hacked then it would really lost its reputation which it would really be totally a disaster thing on your business. Even you could really patch up or do make out some compensation to those users had been affected but still the trust would be totally be not 100% anymore unlike into those platforms which doesnt still have that hacking incident or scenario which it should really be a standard thing overall when it comes to security.They should really put emphasis or focus on.
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March 07, 2022, 10:38:13 PM |
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There were previous stances were besides these so called race time condition,java web token were used to exploit these casinos,from what it seems ,its always the new ones,since the big ones already had their fair shares of people trying to break in their system and probably already fixed many of these issues.
If the new casinos need to have more funds so they can secure the site, then I think this is possible as long as you offer a legit site, hackers and scammers can easily go on any site and collect the details, the gambling site should do everything to avoid any incidents like this, we are on a great time already where there’s a more strict way to protect the site. Its not that much easy as you're saying, the scammer have to get access to the control panel of the site to make any changes but the data can be breached due to the server issues which may not steal the funds but the user data which can be a lethal if the site's KYC information database got breached because the scammer now know the real identity of the people who bet huge amount so it can be a very dangerous thing to happen in their personal life.
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March 08, 2022, 08:00:32 AM |
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.
What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage. The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.
Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.
Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
There are still existing vulnerabilities in gambling websites till this day, but I believe they are not as notorious like before and many are just seldom occurring and are workable to be fixed immediately. Although, one thing I observed to be happening frequently than the others is the issues with regards to the security . Security had been the major concern of all most all the gambling platforms cause this is a vital expect which need to be protected by all miss or expect the attack of hackers and scammers. Although major efforts had always been put on making this thing works which is to prevent the activities of farmers, creating multiple accounts tobe entitled to more bonuses that can be withdrawn later. First, to prevent account farming is one of the reasons why most gambling sites request their customers to pass kyc verification I believe. And secondly, most gambling sites I know don't even do welcome bonus anymore, the bonus mostly common now are maybe promotions or the bonus which one gets after a certain progress bar is filled(I've forgotten what it's called) and this requires the user to have wagered a reasonable amount of money. This, I also believe is another measure to or that prevent account farming cus I see no reason why one would risk huge amounts of money on account farming for a mere bonus that makes no sense at the end of the day.
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March 08, 2022, 11:20:29 AM |
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AFAIK, the risk is mostly on the gamblers, you could either be predicted to a wrong site through phishing, or you get scammed by a gambling site by taking your deposit or charging you that you violate some rules to forfeit your funds.
As to security, they already know the risk in their business, so they'll make sure they are secured and I don't really trust some gambling sites claiming they are hacked as it could be an inside job.
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March 08, 2022, 01:14:16 PM |
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Is it still a vulnerability to take advantage of free money, such as a signup bonus? Create a large number of accounts in order to receive the signing up bonus and transfer it to your wallet, for example. In my opinion, it has long been known that a gambler will open a large number of accounts and deposit the money into a single wallet in order to amass a large sum of cash. However, this is only valid in the past, as the majority of signup bonuses are now locked and cannot be withdrawn from the site.
Signup bonus usually comes up with the wagering requirements. You need to wager a particular amount before you are eligible for the withdrawal of that bonus. Even if we consider it legal, to create as many accounts, no one can't be lucky to retain all the balance in gambling in order to fulfill the wagering requirements. He will lose money and most of the accounts will be zero. If he is lucky to survive and make money, he can withdraw but there is a likely chance that gambling sites will find it fishy that many accounts are being made from a single IP and they may ask for KYC for suspected cases. This is really frequently happening in gambling industry. Actually, not just only in gambling but in other platforms as well which has a bonuses for those newbies because people always tend to abuse the system whenever they sense the opportunity of doing so. Most people utilize the signing up bonus on a bad way which disrupts the system of a gambling site. Making multiple accounts just to avail the bonus is one of the most famous things people do to cheat on the site. Thinking they wouldn't be caught, hence a lot of people are doing this in the past and maybe up until now. Although it really is required for most sites to have a wager before they would be able to withdraw. I understand this method because this is to ensure that the people won't go through abusing the system. And if they would opt to do so, they could lost something in the process. Hence, most would think twice of doing this since most casinos ban the account whenever they detect something fraudulent happening.
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March 08, 2022, 06:46:26 PM Last edit: March 11, 2022, 04:42:00 PM by Silberman |
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While security it is a place in which a casino should invest heavily to protect themselves from threats like hackers, some casinos try to lower their costs and decide to slash their security budget as this is something that cannot be seen by the player and many times it is just assumed that the casino is doing everything they can to protect their customers, however later on those casinos are found by hackers and that is when we hear of the massive hacks that can happen to casinos and exchanges as their security was not up to the standards required in the industry to secure the funds of their customers.
" Prevention is better than cure." If the casino owners want to have a successful casino and be able to compete then the security of their platform must be one of their highest priorities. Besides, in case they get hacked they will lose way more than what they would've saved by lowering the security budget. It's not only about money, if they get hacked they will lose the trust of their customers which will be hard to regain. Without a doubt, however there are some business owners that are just that shortsighted, they think of nothing but the profits and if they can cut corners here and there then that is something that they are going to do, which is unfortunate because having the best security possible not only delays the hackers but also reduces the impact in the case they do happen to steal from the casino and limits the damage they can inflict, something that is key if the casino wants to continue their operations after a hack.
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March 10, 2022, 04:14:59 AM |
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Create a large number of accounts in order to receive the signing up bonus and transfer it to your wallet, for example.
Fortunately, signup bonus mostly in any gambling platform cannot be transferred now, even also the deposit bonus without using or betting it first and any other terms and rules to follow. Good thing it was removed as crypto gambling industry grows and learned from other gambling website mistakes.
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March 14, 2022, 05:44:10 PM |
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AFAIK, the risk is mostly on the gamblers, you could either be predicted to a wrong site through phishing, or you get scammed by a gambling site by taking your deposit or charging you that you violate some rules to forfeit your funds.
As to security, they already know the risk in their business, so they'll make sure they are secured and I don't really trust some gambling sites claiming they are hacked as it could be an inside job.
That is why I and many others always suggest that first before depositing in any casino check the gambling section here and only play on any casino that has only positive feedback and is around us for a long time.If you follow this advice then no one can make you lost to join a scam gambling website. The inside job I believe to be more obvious in exchanges as once they make enough money they use it as a way out,never I have seen a real reputable casino being hacked or playing by that.
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March 14, 2022, 06:56:52 PM |
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AFAIK, the risk is mostly on the gamblers, you could either be predicted to a wrong site through phishing, or you get scammed by a gambling site by taking your deposit or charging you that you violate some rules to forfeit your funds.
As to security, they already know the risk in their business, so they'll make sure they are secured and I don't really trust some gambling sites claiming they are hacked as it could be an inside job.
That is why I and many others always suggest that first before depositing in any casino check the gambling section here and only play on any casino that has only positive feedback and is around us for a long time.If you follow this advice then no one can make you lost to join a scam gambling website. The inside job I believe to be more obvious in exchanges as once they make enough money they use it as a way out,never I have seen a real reputable casino being hacked or playing by that. Research is the key as always but people do really forget even with this very basic principle which it shouldnt really be that forgotten. We have seen gambling sites and other platforms which had been hacked but not really as rampant compared with exchange platforms which means that they are really that doing pretty well in terms of security.I havent see any exploits or breaches with those known gambling sites at the moment which it isnt surprising that they are really gaining that much popularity because of the reputation that they do able to hold and improved all over the years.
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March 15, 2022, 06:27:54 PM |
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. Just set out those common sense of yours and risk management factor on where you only deposit on the amount which you could afford to lose because there's nothing on this world is unhackable. You should bare on your mind that possibilities could really happen anytime but you could actually lessen the odds when you do tend to deal with known or popular sites. Vulnerabilities is always present but casino owners or other platforms arent that dumb on taking lightly when it comes to security since they do know that their business is at risk.
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March 15, 2022, 08:59:41 PM |
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. ^ I never scammed or hack an account since ever when I was starting in gambling, because I know how to pick a legitimate gambling casino that not only cares about their profit, it also cares about their reputation and I know few of them here. The vulnerabilities were always there not only in gambling, in all industries that related directly to when the money involved always has a risk. So for me, money that only the amount that you can afford.
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March 15, 2022, 09:09:47 PM |
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. ^ I never scammed or hack an account since ever when I was starting in gambling, because I know how to pick a legitimate gambling casino that not only cares about their profit, it also cares about their reputation and I know few of them here. The vulnerabilities were always there not only in gambling, in all industries that related directly to when the money involved always has a risk. So for me, money that only the amount that you can afford. That seems like a good point. The biggest risk you probably have as a player is that you will bet and possibly lose more money than you can actually lose. Of course there are sometimes malicious sites, but most problems arise from the vulnerability of people themselves, who then cannot control themselves and lose control with all the consequences that entails. We haven't seen that many rogue sites, certainly not lately. But if you're purely technical, then arbitrage betting is still a problem, and since the advent of VAR, that problem has only gotten worse.
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March 15, 2022, 10:46:47 PM |
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. ^ I never scammed or hack an account since ever when I was starting in gambling, because I know how to pick a legitimate gambling casino that not only cares about their profit, it also cares about their reputation and I know few of them here. The vulnerabilities were always there not only in gambling, in all industries that related directly to when the money involved always has a risk. So for me, money that only the amount that you can afford. You mean you didn’t get scammed? This is the result of being an educated gambler and investor, you won’t fall on any project though of course those sites are still vulnerable but if you are playing on a good site, you can have your peace of mind. You can gamble as much as you want but make sure you are ready for consequences especially if you use your savings in gambling. To avoid any fake site, analyze it and ask the community about their reviews on that ask you can get more good staffs from them.
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. ^ I never scammed or hack an account since ever when I was starting in gambling, because I know how to pick a legitimate gambling casino that not only cares about their profit, it also cares about their reputation and I know few of them here. The vulnerabilities were always there not only in gambling, in all industries that related directly to when the money involved always has a risk. So for me, money that only the amount that you can afford. You mean you didn’t get scammed? This is the result of being an educated gambler and investor, you won’t fall on any project though of course those sites are still vulnerable but if you are playing on a good site, you can have your peace of mind. You can gamble as much as you want but make sure you are ready for consequences especially if you use your savings in gambling. To avoid any fake site, analyze it and ask the community about their reviews on that ask you can get more good staffs from them. i believe what he meant was he was never scammed. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) anyway, the risk is always there. but limiting the possibility of being scammed is indeed up to the player. if the site is new, are you going to send good amount of money? i don't think so. but some people will, because we've been reading in some accusations that they have been tricked with high bonuses or rewards. but come to find out there are so many conditions attached. this should be the responsibility of the player, know the requirements before jumping on a clickbait rewards. this forum alone will give you an insight how the casino is doing with their business. a simple check in their trust summary will give you perspectives if they are treating their players right or not.
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March 16, 2022, 11:37:25 AM |
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We all needs to be careful cause criminals are developing ways to carry out evil act in order to scam people which is the reason why we need to be at alert in preventing any possible attack from these Scammers. As the Earth is revolving, thesame way scammers are creating more ways in achieving their goal of scamming to get more illegal funds
Very right - like the antivirus is created before the virus is made. The scammers come up with new techniques all the time. I didn't believe that unless I lost to the hand of scammers. Being vigilant doesn't hurt. But in our culture gambling is not much appreciate in whatever way it is, the people in our community are extra caution and tries to avoid gambling. ^ I never scammed or hack an account since ever when I was starting in gambling, because I know how to pick a legitimate gambling casino that not only cares about their profit, it also cares about their reputation and I know few of them here. The vulnerabilities were always there not only in gambling, in all industries that related directly to when the money involved always has a risk. So for me, money that only the amount that you can afford. You mean you didn’t get scammed? This is the result of being an educated gambler and investor, you won’t fall on any project though of course those sites are still vulnerable but if you are playing on a good site, you can have your peace of mind. You can gamble as much as you want but make sure you are ready for consequences especially if you use your savings in gambling. To avoid any fake site, analyze it and ask the community about their reviews on that ask you can get more good staffs from them. The majority of vulnerabilities in established gambling websites have already been patched; however, this does not imply that there are no vulnerabilities; as technology evolves, new vulnerabilities are discovered; however, in the case of established gambling websites, the vulnerabilities will be patched as soon as possible. Also, if you are serious about playing on a new website because of the freebies, you should be prepared to be scammed, so only deposit money that you can afford to lose.
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March 16, 2022, 12:39:16 PM |
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Most of the possible vulnerabilities is all about the connection through its database and makes traffic on the client-server which is the gambling platform experience an attack or we commonly called as the DDoS that makes the website down and the other one is the SQL injection common things and other security stuffs like the email which the user got caught by the hackers through phishing emails and other links.
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