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March 20, 2022, 01:01:34 PM
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There is no point to being harsh on anyone - everyone has their opinion,

Yes, everyone has the right to their opinion, but when you make an incorrect statement that can be easily refuted with facts, you should stop being a smart-ass and actually do your homework before getting into an argument over a subject you know nothing about.

In one of the links you mentioned about women winning a bet in football match doesn't seem to be regular gamblor - she was a heartbroken woman who won a bet. Luck was on her side. Also in other story a man with $50 - don't seem like he is regular gamblor.

These examples irrefutably show that the claim you made is untrue, so the discussion ends there.

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March 20, 2022, 06:43:32 PM
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I could never run an automated gambling platform for this reason alone.  Imagine having a hot wallet out there with hundreds of thousands of dollars or potentially even millions per day moving through it without any human verification.  I couldn't do it.  I see all of these threads from people wanting to hire others to build them gambling platforms and I just can't even imagine the risks involved with that approach.
But this risk is present in almost all online crypto businesses and not only casinos. Exchanges, for example, also process transactions worth millions of dollars each day automatically. Their systems probably process more transactions than casinos do.
The way to mitigate this risk is by limiting the amount you keep on hot wallets to the minimum and move the rest to your cold wallets and process only small transactions automatically. Large transactions should be processed manually.
Well said. The risks are everywhere - We sometime don't even  believe what has happened to us. We have learnt in our school days not to keep all the eggs in the same basket. That is so true, one should not keep all the money in hot wallets. I believe gambling is a risky addiction. Better be very careful, sometimes the risks costs the peace of mind as well.
There is no sector of internet based investment is completely free from been attacked but when it comes to casinos i am always sure their cyber security experts are up and working on the sites t0 fight against most of the riskiest attacks. No matter how thick a data base security might be it is still open to attack and this is one of the key reasons why the internet keeps upgrading and improving trying to ensure the database is protected from this vulnerabilities
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March 20, 2022, 10:57:53 PM
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Yes, no system is safe. Cases that we often hear about are hackers who use backdoors to penetrate security holes they find through scanning programs. Or if it's a gambling site, they will try to exploit the .mdb file to get logins and passwords because that's probably what we usually hear. But I don't know, I'm not too familiar with that complicated system.

We, as users, can only protect our accounts from hackers by implementing all recommended by the site. And if the site turns out to be leaked and a hacker manages to break into it, that site should try to fix it and clean things up.
Hackers are incredibly resourceful, we may think that we are taking all the necessary precautions to never give someone else access to our account and yet hackers will find a way to do so, this is why it is important to not only follow the guidelines given by the casino to try to protect our accounts, we actually need to go even further than that, after all how many people are using an unsafe OS like windows just because it is more user friendly? When they should be using a OS like Linux if they really care about their privacy.
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March 20, 2022, 11:47:21 PM
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I’m surprised there aren’t more vulnerabilities regarded reveled secret hashes and such. Not going to lie. I’ve been banned from a few casinos for nothing at all and I would love to rek them or give someone else in for to do so.
Lol, you getting ban might be part of the vulnerability cause the system might just noticed your account and hinder you from doing the necessary. I hope you never made any losses from that? Vulnerability in gambling site is a frequent occurrence and should not be too obvious or else, it will lead to big losses from the team operation. Most gamblers sites always have a routine maintenance to spot any vulnerability.

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March 21, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
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Warning people that gambling is bad for someone that is not well prepared is good
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What do you really mean by this?  Undecided
In my understanding.

You warn people that are new or not used to gambling that gambling is bad. It's simple as that and we've been telling that to those gamblers that can be categorized in different types.

Mostly, to those that cannot control themselves as said of not being prepared is about the possible turn of the tides of losing much money than what they can afford to lose.

They're not prepared to lose a lot because they might be too optimistic as they gamble but gets the unexpected results.
Being optimistic towards gambling is never been a suggested thing when you do get involved with it because it would just result into desperation which is something not good and it is really just for the sake of entertainment

nothing-less but people do really overextent with their hopes thats why they do really end up on having this kind of impression.As for security concern then nothing is unhackable but you could somewhat have that

peace of mind when you are dealing with known and reputable sites but of course dont leave out big amounts on any platform you are dealing with.
There's always the good and bad effect of it, there's always consequences for being optimistic if it's about gambling.

Well, for these vulnerabilities that have happened in the past. Many casinos have learned from it so that it won't happen to them and that's why the major investment that these casinos are having is through the security.

Although there's no system that's flawless, there has been always a better and stronger security to protect their funds and users and that's what they're taking.

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March 21, 2022, 02:30:14 PM
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Yes, no system is safe. Cases that we often hear about are hackers who use backdoors to penetrate security holes they find through scanning programs. Or if it's a gambling site, they will try to exploit the .mdb file to get logins and passwords because that's probably what we usually hear. But I don't know, I'm not too familiar with that complicated system.

We, as users, can only protect our accounts from hackers by implementing all recommended by the site. And if the site turns out to be leaked and a hacker manages to break into it, that site should try to fix it and clean things up.
Hackers are incredibly resourceful, we may think that we are taking all the necessary precautions to never give someone else access to our account and yet hackers will find a way to do so, this is why it is important to not only follow the guidelines given by the casino to try to protect our accounts, we actually need to go even further than that, after all how many people are using an unsafe OS like windows just because it is more user friendly? When they should be using a OS like Linux if they really care about their privacy.
Hackers are very good at finding gaps that are still open and with their ability to create scripts that can penetrate the defences of a server or someone's account, they can get inside without anyone knowing. In addition, hackers can also use other methods besides creating scripts to send to their victims and they always research carefully before they act. Every business site keeps its security system up to date and activates everything to protect its site from hackers. Windows is probably more user-friendly and as long as users don't explore weird sites and don't download unknown files, I think they'll be safe.
I totally agree with you, and to add, I think hackers are one of the most patient and passionate beings in the field of profession, professional hackers are always so serious and determined, though their chosen career or profession isn't something to emulate(this is for the black hat hackers), but I always draw some encouragement from them, a serious hacker can spend months and sometimes, years trying to hack a site or platform, all they need is to find the loophole, ones that is found, they never give up until they figure out a way to use that loophole to thier own advantage.
Sometime some years back, I've tried learning how to hack but I lacked the patience and resources required, and to be sincere, I love their enthusiasm towards their job even though most part of the job is illegal.

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March 21, 2022, 03:09:31 PM
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Yes, no system is safe. Cases that we often hear about are hackers who use backdoors to penetrate security holes they find through scanning programs. Or if it's a gambling site, they will try to exploit the .mdb file to get logins and passwords because that's probably what we usually hear. But I don't know, I'm not too familiar with that complicated system.

We, as users, can only protect our accounts from hackers by implementing all recommended by the site. And if the site turns out to be leaked and a hacker manages to break into it, that site should try to fix it and clean things up.
Hackers are incredibly resourceful, we may think that we are taking all the necessary precautions to never give someone else access to our account and yet hackers will find a way to do so, this is why it is important to not only follow the guidelines given by the casino to try to protect our accounts, we actually need to go even further than that, after all how many people are using an unsafe OS like windows just because it is more user friendly? When they should be using a OS like Linux if they really care about their privacy.
Hackers are very good at finding gaps that are still open and with their ability to create scripts that can penetrate the defences of a server or someone's account, they can get inside without anyone knowing. In addition, hackers can also use other methods besides creating scripts to send to their victims and they always research carefully before they act. Every business site keeps its security system up to date and activates everything to protect its site from hackers. Windows is probably more user-friendly and as long as users don't explore weird sites and don't download unknown files, I think they'll be safe.
I totally agree with you, and to add, I think hackers are one of the most patient and passionate beings in the field of profession, professional hackers are always so serious and determined, though their chosen career or profession isn't something to emulate(this is for the black hat hackers), but I always draw some encouragement from them, a serious hacker can spend months and sometimes, years trying to hack a site or platform, all they need is to find the loophole, ones that is found, they never give up until they figure out a way to use that loophole to thier own advantage.
Sometime some years back, I've tried learning how to hack but I lacked the patience and resources required, and to be sincere, I love their enthusiasm towards their job even though most part of the job is illegal.

Hackers are very patient with these scamming schemes, even though they have been rejected for how many times by their scam offers they will not stop until some newbies will take the bait. For me, the majority of victims here are the newbies because if you’re really have the personality of legit checking you will go through their ratings, link name, web presentation. And also the most common scams that we can see from gambling is the giveaways and bonuses because some of the players who are eager to win they will try take it and little did they know that it will be the reason for their great loss.
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March 21, 2022, 03:13:53 PM
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The majority of vulnerabilities in established gambling websites have already been patched; however, this does not imply that there are no vulnerabilities; as technology evolves, new vulnerabilities are discovered; however, in the case of established gambling websites, the vulnerabilities will be patched as soon as possible. Also, if you are serious about playing on a new website because of the freebies, you should be prepared to be scammed, so only deposit money that you can afford to lose.
The society we live in is very unsupportive for gambling. Be it online Gambling or gambling in casino. It is put in our mind from childhood days. Easy come, easy go. When you get the money through easy Channels. You let it flow with same ease through the other Channels. I have never seen person getting rich through gambling. So it's better to be safe than sorry!
It's probably because many people have experienced big losses from gambling. They always tell their children to stay away from gambling, especially if they don't have good control over gambling. But there are people out there who can get rich through gambling.

But vulnerabilities that occur on gambling sites or other sites will always be there. As @xSkylarx said, along with the technology development, the security factor is always a point that the hackers will try to exploit to break into their servers. Only sites that really pay attention to security issues can always protect their sites from hackers.

Warning people that gambling is bad for someone that is not well prepared is good, but I don't agree that all of the people is not lucky to be in the gambling industry, there are quite few individuals who are successful in life because of playing gambling. About the vulnerabilities, it can't be help since we're just humans, we don't make perfect things since we're not even perfect in the first place.

No matter how good it seems a certain gambling site is, there's gonna be a weakness or few that could be found on it's system.

There is a difference in vulnerabilities in gambling site and losing in gambling. A vulnerability is a bug which may hurt your winnings which should be taken care of immediately by the gambling site. On the other hand, Losing in gambling is a part of gambling. You lose some games and you win some games. Some people are lucky who win big jackpots while others may find it hard to win at times. If you come to know any vulnerability in a gambling site, better stop playing there until it is fixed.

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March 21, 2022, 05:53:35 PM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
Well said mate there have been a lot of vulnerabilities in so many gambling sites in the past and a good number of them could not survive the attacks and are forced to close down or pack up, both to aid further discussion on the subject of vulnerability we need to narrow it down to a particularly vulnerable aspect, e.g hack, scam and exit game this all mean different things but link to one thing which is a vulnerability in gambling.
ALso casinos work 24 hrs a days and some of the casinos are located in geographical areas with poor governance. political instability and bordening region with significant crims and risks - in recent past many casinos have developed in different countries but due to social harms done by many gambling sites - gov have imposed bans on most of the gambling sites..

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March 21, 2022, 06:46:51 PM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
Well said mate there have been a lot of vulnerabilities in so many gambling sites in the past and a good number of them could not survive the attacks and are forced to close down or pack up, both to aid further discussion on the subject of vulnerability we need to narrow it down to a particularly vulnerable aspect, e.g hack, scam and exit game this all mean different things but link to one thing which is a vulnerability in gambling.
ALso casinos work 24 hrs a days and some of the casinos are located in geographical areas with poor governance. political instability and bordening region with significant crims and risks - in recent past many casinos have developed in different countries but due to social harms done by many gambling sites - gov have imposed bans on most of the gambling sites..
Nothing surprising on here considering that not all places or corners of the world would really be ending up on having the same perception or views towards gambling which you could really expect that

different kinds of decisions and actions towards gambling businesses whether if it would be online or physical ones thats why it would really vary and speaking about security then every site doesnt have

that 100% protection even how you would strengthen it out because it could really be hacked on any chance but of course they would really be putting some focus on making it stronger since
no business owner will definitely be letting these things to happen.

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March 21, 2022, 10:39:25 PM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
Well said mate there have been a lot of vulnerabilities in so many gambling sites in the past and a good number of them could not survive the attacks and are forced to close down or pack up, both to aid further discussion on the subject of vulnerability we need to narrow it down to a particularly vulnerable aspect, e.g hack, scam and exit game this all mean different things but link to one thing which is a vulnerability in gambling.
ALso casinos work 24 hrs a days and some of the casinos are located in geographical areas with poor governance. political instability and bordening region with significant crims and risks - in recent past many casinos have developed in different countries but due to social harms done by many gambling sites - gov have imposed bans on most of the gambling sites..
Nothing surprising on here considering that not all places or corners of the world would really be ending up on having the same perception or views towards gambling which you could really expect that

different kinds of decisions and actions towards gambling businesses whether if it would be online or physical ones thats why it would really vary and speaking about security then every site doesnt have

that 100% protection even how you would strengthen it out because it could really be hacked on any chance but of course they would really be putting some focus on making it stronger since
no business owner will definitely be letting these things to happen.
Gambling is very risky addiction and cherry on the top hackers looking for loopholes to get themselves benefitted. They have different ways of approaching the scenario – we see how to lock the wallet and hacker will be planning the other way round. Hackers are always a step ahead than the ordinary person. So we cannot bring forth

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March 21, 2022, 11:17:17 PM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
Well said mate there have been a lot of vulnerabilities in so many gambling sites in the past and a good number of them could not survive the attacks and are forced to close down or pack up, both to aid further discussion on the subject of vulnerability we need to narrow it down to a particularly vulnerable aspect, e.g hack, scam and exit game this all mean different things but link to one thing which is a vulnerability in gambling.
ALso casinos work 24 hrs a days and some of the casinos are located in geographical areas with poor governance. political instability and bordening region with significant crims and risks - in recent past many casinos have developed in different countries but due to social harms done by many gambling sites - gov have imposed bans on most of the gambling sites..
Nothing surprising on here considering that not all places or corners of the world would really be ending up on having the same perception or views towards gambling which you could really expect that

different kinds of decisions and actions towards gambling businesses whether if it would be online or physical ones thats why it would really vary and speaking about security then every site doesnt have

that 100% protection even how you would strengthen it out because it could really be hacked on any chance but of course they would really be putting some focus on making it stronger since
no business owner will definitely be letting these things to happen.
Gambling is very risky addiction and cherry on the top hackers looking for loopholes to get themselves benefitted. They have different ways of approaching the scenario – we see how to lock the wallet and hacker will be planning the other way round. Hackers are always a step ahead than the ordinary person. So we cannot bring forth
Not only gambling casinos but also in exchange platforms as well as long a site does have lots of funds involved then they are really that susceptible from hack because they do know that this is the sweetest spot on
finding out vulnerabilities and loop holes which they could really able to steal websites funds  specially on hot wallet but we know that not all casinos does store all of funds on a hot wallet but also
into their cold storage to prevent out completely wipe of funds which is very common behavior for platforms like these.

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March 22, 2022, 03:22:33 AM
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Signup bonus usually comes up with the wagering requirements. You need to wager a particular amount before you are eligible for the withdrawal of that bonus. Even if we consider it legal, to create as many accounts, no one can't be lucky to retain all the balance in gambling in order to fulfill the wagering requirements. He will lose money and most of the accounts will be zero.
 
If he is lucky to survive and make money, he can withdraw but there is a likely chance that gambling sites will find it fishy that many accounts are being made from a single IP and they may ask for KYC for suspected cases.
Most of the casinos I have visited have casinos that give bonuses. They have an account policy per user after opening an account and here they freeze all accounts if they see account fraud. I know users can't get their IP idea but cookies are  I think there are a lot of them who can do the job
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March 22, 2022, 11:56:34 AM
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Not only gambling casinos but also in exchange platforms as well as long a site does have lots of funds involved then they are really that susceptible from hack because they do know that this is the sweetest spot on
finding out vulnerabilities and loop holes which they could really able to steal websites funds  specially on hot wallet but we know that not all casinos does store all of funds on a hot wallet but also
into their cold storage to prevent out completely wipe of funds which is very common behavior for platforms like these.
If it were a business on the internet, it would all be vulnerable to hacking. Also, hackers won't be too picky about their targets, and as long as they can get onto the site and get what they want, they'll be sure to stick with it until they're satisfied. That is why gambling sites or exchanges or even online shops need to be aware of attacks from hackers because they can attack at any time and enter at any time when they already have access. We will never know how they did it because many of those hackers leave no trace of them when they enter a site.

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March 22, 2022, 07:48:16 PM
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Being optimistic towards gambling is never been a suggested thing when you do get involved with it because it would just result into desperation which is something not good and it is really just for the sake of entertainment

nothing-less but people do really overextent with their hopes thats why they do really end up on having this kind of impression.As for security concern then nothing is unhackable but you could somewhat have that

peace of mind when you are dealing with known and reputable sites but of course dont leave out big amounts on any platform you are dealing with.
There is nothing to be optimistic about gambling. Gambling does not make person rich, it is a thrilling game which can cost one's peace and this is an addiction like drinking. I have not seen people being benefited from it. If there is anyone who has seen someone being rich and happy being a gamblor please enlighten me as well.

Well, being optimistic is something else, there is a lot of talk about the chances of winning, those who are very optimistic always have winning or winning in their minds, and sometimes this is dangerous because sometimes that idea gets so much into their heads that they forget about the balance you have, and because you faithfully believe in it, it can cause some addiction and in turn losses that are very expensive, and difficult to recover, this leads to despair in many people and that is when it causes their decline , that is why you have to be careful with that statement, it is something like playing with fire.

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March 22, 2022, 08:36:15 PM
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Not only gambling casinos but also in exchange platforms as well as long a site does have lots of funds involved then they are really that susceptible from hack because they do know that this is the sweetest spot on
finding out vulnerabilities and loop holes which they could really able to steal websites funds  specially on hot wallet but we know that not all casinos does store all of funds on a hot wallet but also
into their cold storage to prevent out completely wipe of funds which is very common behavior for platforms like these.
Have you heard the news that Moscow could operationalize arrested hacking group. being aware that No sector is off limits foe Russian Hackers. I believe that the situation will be very critical and it will bring more damage to the world. What are your thoughts about it?

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I totally agree with you, and to add, I think hackers are one of the most patient and passionate beings in the field of profession, professional hackers are always so serious and determined, though their chosen career or profession isn't something to emulate(this is for the black hat hackers), but I always draw some encouragement from them, a serious hacker can spend months and sometimes, years trying to hack a site or platform, all they need is to find the loophole, ones that is found, they never give up until they figure out a way to use that loophole to thier own advantage.
Sometime some years back, I've tried learning how to hack but I lacked the patience and resources required, and to be sincere, I love their enthusiasm towards their job even though most part of the job is illegal.
There are many white hat hackers, after all what better way to learn how to secure a website than by trying to break into it? The difference is that white hat hackers instead of gaining illegal access and stealing what they can they could ask for a bounty in the case they find a critical vulnerability for the website, now without a doubt it is a really difficult profession as the level of skill and knowledge needed to make any money as a white hat hacker is huge, but it is worth it, as bounties can easily reach five or even six figures.
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March 23, 2022, 11:17:15 PM
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I totally agree with you, and to add, I think hackers are one of the most patient and passionate beings in the field of profession, professional hackers are always so serious and determined, though their chosen career or profession isn't something to emulate(this is for the black hat hackers), but I always draw some encouragement from them, a serious hacker can spend months and sometimes, years trying to hack a site or platform, all they need is to find the loophole, ones that is found, they never give up until they figure out a way to use that loophole to thier own advantage.
Sometime some years back, I've tried learning how to hack but I lacked the patience and resources required, and to be sincere, I love their enthusiasm towards their job even though most part of the job is illegal.
There are many white hat hackers, after all what better way to learn how to secure a website than by trying to break into it? The difference is that white hat hackers instead of gaining illegal access and stealing what they can they could ask for a bounty in the case they find a critical vulnerability for the website, now without a doubt it is a really difficult profession as the level of skill and knowledge needed to make any money as a white hat hacker is huge, but it is worth it, as bounties can easily reach five or even six figures.

It is indeed more on passion that comes into this situation. Because if you don't have the passion, the long hours of work will really give you headache and so much stress you don't want to do this job again. So yes, you need passion on this thing, otherwise, you will give up easily. Hats off to those white hackers who prefer to earn money on a better route. Yes, they can easily get huge amount by thinking of their personal interest, but if you are indeed a professional one, will it satisfy your ultimate goal in life?
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There are still some weaknesses in the gambling sites, but what can be done about them? There is a lot of talk about cheating and arbitrage betting. Perhaps rightly so, but what can be done about it? That hassle with table tennis and cams, that does not make sites happy. And then with corona you also had a lot of competitions that were manipulated by the bookies. There are too many matches to monitor all of that in time.
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March 27, 2022, 10:40:58 AM
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There are many white hat hackers, after all what better way to learn how to secure a website than by trying to break into it? The difference is that white hat hackers instead of gaining illegal access and stealing what they can they could ask for a bounty in the case they find a critical vulnerability for the website, now without a doubt it is a really difficult profession as the level of skill and knowledge needed to make any money as a white hat hacker is huge, but it is worth it, as bounties can easily reach five or even six figures.
The job of a white hat hacker is to exposed to their client all of the noticed loopholes/vulnerabilities of the system. They break the system so they can implement better security for the system, it is also a process for securing a system/website.
I am not sure if white hat hackers are exactly the same with bounty hunters, but I guess they are not though they are very related to each other.
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