Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past

[YinShuiSiYuan]

You are right, but mostly they will say that they have legal terms and say that they will not be sharing it with others. This is only for their own consumption, but still it manages to leak. This is really the problem now, but in order to signup and play on a gambling website, you really need to do KYC, and now I noticed that privacy is not that important to others since they don't care where they are sending their personal information. The only thing that we are like holding right now is really they terms and conditions about our data to make sure our information are safe

I never believed that they share our data and we start getting the ads dependent on our likes and interest. I noticed that real soon that I get the ads depended on likes and interest. For the moment I have deactivated my fb and insta accounts. To have some peace of mind.

Well you cannot really escape from the world of targeted advertising, no matter where you go in this world. Even in nature there are examples of advertisement. Or at least a kind of advertisement. A good smelling fruit is appealing to animals, animals eat the fruit, poop out the seeds. Their poop becomes the seedlings fertilizer. So obviously this is a good trade.


But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I agree that excess of everything is bad; a mature player would not like to go at the beginner level. But on the other hand a beginner level player would look for the experience rather than being worried about the ad – so every level has their priorities. Gambling sites should be able to set up their terms according to their players.

[AicecreaME]

You are right, but mostly they will say that they have legal terms and say that they will not be sharing it with others. This is only for their own consumption, but still it manages to leak. This is really the problem now, but in order to signup and play on a gambling website, you really need to do KYC, and now I noticed that privacy is not that important to others since they don't care where they are sending their personal information. The only thing that we are like holding right now is really they terms and conditions about our data to make sure our information are safe

I never believed that they share our data and we start getting the ads dependent on our likes and interest. I noticed that real soon that I get the ads depended on likes and interest. For the moment I have deactivated my fb and insta accounts. To have some peace of mind.

Well you cannot really escape from the world of targeted advertising, no matter where you go in this world. Even in nature there are examples of advertisement. Or at least a kind of advertisement. A good smelling fruit is appealing to animals, animals eat the fruit, poop out the seeds. Their poop becomes the seedlings fertilizer. So obviously this is a good trade.


But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

Valid point as beautiful stated - we cannot escape from the world of advertising but to much adds are annoying that is why a serious player would go an ad free site. As I am getting older - I think I am loosing patience too and I would rather prefer distraction free things.

There is always a right mix for everything.

Too much display of ads is really irritating most especially if it keep on popping and interfering with what you are doing. Most of us have short attention span and patience for some, hence, having this frequent ads on your screen would be really annoying and eye-sore. Some websites and applications really sell the data to other platforms so that they may reach us in accordance to what we liked, what we searched the most, and what interests us. The algorithm is programmed that way to cater and entice the user to perhaps view to add on traffic and even purchase or try the product or service.

Hopefully, there would be lesser invasive ads in the future. Overusing ads is annoying. Although I know that there are certain features now to keep you being ad-free but that costs a penny too. May ads won't be a bother here in gambling community because after all, ads are good promotion too. The wrong usage of it just makes it intolerable.

[og kush420]

You are right, but mostly they will say that they have legal terms and say that they will not be sharing it with others. This is only for their own consumption, but still it manages to leak. This is really the problem now, but in order to signup and play on a gambling website, you really need to do KYC, and now I noticed that privacy is not that important to others since they don't care where they are sending their personal information. The only thing that we are like holding right now is really they terms and conditions about our data to make sure our information are safe

I never believed that they share our data and we start getting the ads dependent on our likes and interest. I noticed that real soon that I get the ads depended on likes and interest. For the moment I have deactivated my fb and insta accounts. To have some peace of mind.

Well you cannot really escape from the world of targeted advertising, no matter where you go in this world. Even in nature there are examples of advertisement. Or at least a kind of advertisement. A good smelling fruit is appealing to animals, animals eat the fruit, poop out the seeds. Their poop becomes the seedlings fertilizer. So obviously this is a good trade.


But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

Valid point as beautiful stated - we cannot escape from the world of advertising but to much adds are annoying that is why a serious player would go an ad free site. As I am getting older - I think I am loosing patience too and I would rather prefer distraction free things.

There is always a right mix for everything.

Too much display of ads is really irritating most especially if it keep on popping and interfering with what you are doing. Most of us have short attention span and patience for some, hence, having this frequent ads on your screen would be really annoying and eye-sore. Some websites and applications really sell the data to other platforms so that they may reach us in accordance to what we liked, what we searched the most, and what interests us. The algorithm is programmed that way to cater and entice the user to perhaps view to add on traffic and even purchase or try the product or service.

Hopefully, there would be lesser invasive ads in the future. Overusing ads is annoying. Although I know that there are certain features now to keep you being ad-free but that costs a penny too. May ads won't be a bother here in gambling community because after all, ads are good promotion too. The wrong usage of it just makes it intolerable.

I agree there should be a good mix for both. Sometimes the promotions are also bonuses which have their hidden terms and conditions.
I am not sure the serious and mature player would consider Bonuses over the RTP. SO better to keep a balance and retain the serious buyer.

[nakamura12]

I agree there should be a good mix for both. Sometimes the promotions are also bonuses which have their hidden terms and conditions.
I am not sure the serious and mature player would consider Bonuses over the RTP. SO better to keep a balance and retain the serious buyer.

Not all terms and conditions of a bonus is hidden. Some of it are explained in their casino on what you should do to receive it and able to withdraw it like you have to deposit at least (amount shown) and you must place a bet a total of (amount shown or total of bets) before you can withdraw your balance. That is what their terms and conditions which is used to keep gamblers to abuse the bonus but still some find ways to abuse it like creating new account and experience the same bonus.

[Lanatsa]

I agree there should be a good mix for both. Sometimes the promotions are also bonuses which have their hidden terms and conditions.
I am not sure the serious and mature player would consider Bonuses over the RTP. SO better to keep a balance and retain the serious buyer.

Not all terms and conditions of a bonus is hidden. Some of it are explained in their casino on what you should do to receive it and able to withdraw it like you have to deposit at least (amount shown) and you must place a bet a total of (amount shown or total of bets) before you can withdraw your balance. That is what their terms and conditions which is used to keep gamblers to abuse the bonus but still some find ways to abuse it like creating new account and experience the same bonus.

Casinos are battling these kind of circumstances which these people do continually to exploit and make out some abuse because they could able to do so which there might be something new but casinos arent that

dumb for making these things to happen for a long time since they are running off a business  then it would be just normal or typical that they would really be making immediate actions for this one.

There's no such thing about perfect system but with proper security and some right terms and conditions then it would really be hard to bypass it.

[passwordnow]

But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I've heard of the news of related to advertisement in Australia that one casino there did an over with their advertisement and those old users/customers that they've got started to sue them because they've been unsubscribed for that long.
But still, the casino did pass them their promotions and advertisement. It's truly such an annoying act from them and they should recognize what their customers like if they've already unsub to their news and promotions.

[goldkingcoiner]

You are right, but mostly they will say that they have legal terms and say that they will not be sharing it with others. This is only for their own consumption, but still it manages to leak. This is really the problem now, but in order to signup and play on a gambling website, you really need to do KYC, and now I noticed that privacy is not that important to others since they don't care where they are sending their personal information. The only thing that we are like holding right now is really they terms and conditions about our data to make sure our information are safe

I never believed that they share our data and we start getting the ads dependent on our likes and interest. I noticed that real soon that I get the ads depended on likes and interest. For the moment I have deactivated my fb and insta accounts. To have some peace of mind.

Well you cannot really escape from the world of targeted advertising, no matter where you go in this world. Even in nature there are examples of advertisement. Or at least a kind of advertisement. A good smelling fruit is appealing to animals, animals eat the fruit, poop out the seeds. Their poop becomes the seedlings fertilizer. So obviously this is a good trade.


But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I agree that excess of everything is bad; a mature player would not like to go at the beginner level. But on the other hand a beginner level player would look for the experience rather than being worried about the ad – so every level has their priorities. Gambling sites should be able to set up their terms according to their players.

From the perspective of a beginner I think it would suit them better if they were to justifiably sign themselves up for a tutorial version of gambling, perhaps there even exists a gambling site with fake money that you can use to practice? I know from my days of trading futures, options and other derivitives how hard learning all the new stuff can be and how frustrating it can be to lose money due to not understanding how things work.

I think a testnet version of their gambling site would be just the right thing to get beginners acquainted with their platform.

[michellee]

But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I've heard of the news of related to advertisement in Australia that one casino there did an over with their advertisement and those old users/customers that they've got started to sue them because they've been unsubscribed for that long.
But still, the casino did pass them their promotions and advertisement. It's truly such an annoying act from them and they should recognize what their customers like if they've already unsub to their news and promotions.

I think it's happening in other industries because I've experienced it myself in the promotions I get via email. I don't know how they can still send us the promotion but I think they still keep the email address or the address we use to register at a casino or other line of business. Yes, it is very disturbing because if someone really wants to quit gambling activities, it can trigger him to go back to gambling again. After all, in his mind, he will say it will be okay if we play gambling once in a while. It is also something casinos need to pay attention to, lest their customers sue them because they have left the casino and unsubscribed.

[xSkylarx]

You are right, but mostly they will say that they have legal terms and say that they will not be sharing it with others. This is only for their own consumption, but still it manages to leak. This is really the problem now, but in order to signup and play on a gambling website, you really need to do KYC, and now I noticed that privacy is not that important to others since they don't care where they are sending their personal information. The only thing that we are like holding right now is really they terms and conditions about our data to make sure our information are safe

I never believed that they share our data and we start getting the ads dependent on our likes and interest. I noticed that real soon that I get the ads depended on likes and interest. For the moment I have deactivated my fb and insta accounts. To have some peace of mind.

Well you cannot really escape from the world of targeted advertising, no matter where you go in this world. Even in nature there are examples of advertisement. Or at least a kind of advertisement. A good smelling fruit is appealing to animals, animals eat the fruit, poop out the seeds. Their poop becomes the seedlings fertilizer. So obviously this is a good trade.


But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I agree that excess of everything is bad; a mature player would not like to go at the beginner level. But on the other hand a beginner level player would look for the experience rather than being worried about the ad – so every level has their priorities. Gambling sites should be able to set up their terms according to their players.

From the perspective of a beginner I think it would suit them better if they were to justifiably sign themselves up for a tutorial version of gambling, perhaps there even exists a gambling site with fake money that you can use to practice? I know from my days of trading futures, options and other derivitives how hard learning all the new stuff can be and how frustrating it can be to lose money due to not understanding how things work.

I think a testnet version of their gambling site would be just the right thing to get beginners acquainted with their platform.

I think this is a good idea to have its own testnet, like they could test and try to play the game without involving real money, which I think would be happy if this were done to other placements just to try and fee the game, but I think the rebut with this is that why play these games if you don't know it? Learn it first. There are a lot of third-party games that you can practice before going to this game, and also that casinos are giving signup bonuses or freebies for you to try the game with their free money to feel and learn it. I think the casino owner will think this is a one-sided thing because if they establish this, the customers will just try it and not be forced to deposit any money.

[Oilacris]

But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I've heard of the news of related to advertisement in Australia that one casino there did an over with their advertisement and those old users/customers that they've got started to sue them because they've been unsubscribed for that long.
But still, the casino did pass them their promotions and advertisement. It's truly such an annoying act from them and they should recognize what their customers like if they've already unsub to their news and promotions.

I think it's happening in other industries because I've experienced it myself in the promotions I get via email. I don't know how they can still send us the promotion but I think they still keep the email address or the address we use to register at a casino or other line of business. Yes, it is very disturbing because if someone really wants to quit gambling activities, it can trigger him to go back to gambling again. After all, in his mind, he will say it will be okay if we play gambling once in a while. It is also something casinos need to pay attention to, lest their customers sue them because they have left the casino and unsubscribed.

If they do sent out some emails after you had unsubscribe or make yourself excluded then it is really just unethical for them to continue on sending out those emails but if you are really serious on quitting

gambling then you would just simply put those emails to spam so that you wont read it out or simply make out new email for you to make use and dont intent do access those old ones to get rid of those
things.It cant really be avoided that there might be some instances on where you do experience these problems. Exploits and vulnerabilities are really very common.

[passwordnow]

But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I've heard of the news of related to advertisement in Australia that one casino there did an over with their advertisement and those old users/customers that they've got started to sue them because they've been unsubscribed for that long.
But still, the casino did pass them their promotions and advertisement. It's truly such an annoying act from them and they should recognize what their customers like if they've already unsub to their news and promotions.

I think it's happening in other industries because I've experienced it myself in the promotions I get via email. I don't know how they can still send us the promotion but I think they still keep the email address or the address we use to register at a casino or other line of business. Yes, it is very disturbing because if someone really wants to quit gambling activities, it can trigger him to go back to gambling again. After all, in his mind, he will say it will be okay if we play gambling once in a while. It is also something casinos need to pay attention to, lest their customers sue them because they have left the casino and unsubscribed.

Every company is for surely keeping our email addresses and they've got a lot of purposes on it. And it's not just the companies that we used to sign up are the ones keeping it.
If there's someone who get to see it and they have ideas and database of keeping it, they'll sell it to the other parties. That's why we have no idea where these ads and promotions are coming from despite we just signed up for a few websites before.

[michellee]

If they do sent out some emails after you had unsubscribe or make yourself excluded then it is really just unethical for them to continue on sending out those emails but if you are really serious on quitting gambling then you would just simply put those emails to spam so that you wont read it out or simply make out new email for you to make use and dont intent do access those old ones to get rid of those things.It cant really be avoided that there might be some instances on where you do experience these problems. Exploits and vulnerabilities are really very common.

If we really want to unsubscribe, it means we are really serious about it and the company should not continue sending promotional emails to those who have stopped.

Sometimes problems like that can occur from the subscription email provider itself and not from the gambling company because I once ensured that I had unsubscribed from one company. However, a week later, there were still emails coming in from the previous company. When I repeated the process of unsubscribing and all complaints to the company, then the promotional email really stopped.

Every company is for surely keeping our email addresses and they've got a lot of purposes on it. And it's not just the companies that we used to sign up are the ones keeping it.
If there's someone who get to see it and they have ideas and database of keeping it, they'll sell it to the other parties. That's why we have no idea where these ads and promotions are coming from despite we just signed up for a few websites before.

Selling emails is nothing new because it has been around for a long time and I once saw someone selling a database of emails from multiple subscribers on a website. If the company buys it, they will have a lot of potential customers who can become their regular customers.

Sometimes we get promotional emails from a company that we don't know and don't feel subscribed to by their company. If there is such an email and we don't feel subscribed, we better delete it immediately and if necessary, we can block it.

[goldkingcoiner]

But as far as the human world goes: I think advertisement is also good but sometimes we overdo it. We go too far. We start annoying people.

Thats the worst part. The annoyance from bad advertising practices.

I've heard of the news of related to advertisement in Australia that one casino there did an over with their advertisement and those old users/customers that they've got started to sue them because they've been unsubscribed for that long.
But still, the casino did pass them their promotions and advertisement. It's truly such an annoying act from them and they should recognize what their customers like if they've already unsub to their news and promotions.

I think it's happening in other industries because I've experienced it myself in the promotions I get via email. I don't know how they can still send us the promotion but I think they still keep the email address or the address we use to register at a casino or other line of business. Yes, it is very disturbing because if someone really wants to quit gambling activities, it can trigger him to go back to gambling again. After all, in his mind, he will say it will be okay if we play gambling once in a while. It is also something casinos need to pay attention to, lest their customers sue them because they have left the casino and unsubscribed.

Every company is for surely keeping our email addresses and they've got a lot of purposes on it. And it's not just the companies that we used to sign up are the ones keeping it.
If there's someone who get to see it and they have ideas and database of keeping it, they'll sell it to the other parties. That's why we have no idea where these ads and promotions are coming from despite we just signed up for a few websites before.

I think that saving email addresses or other information of people who have explicitly and directly asked against this would be illegal to do as it might fall under anti-scam laws or data security laws which are currently almost international at this point, although I am no lawyer and cannot confirm this suspicion as truth.

Although you are right, there are a lot of sleezy, shady online gambling casinos which try to make a quick buck any way that they can, even if their strategy of doing so is highly unethical.

I wonder if there is someone who knows more about this.

 

[mm2543363580]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

It was on Rollin.io which is already dead or down as of this moment.Nothing on this world is unhackable no matter how tough the security would be.

But in the case of the casino, once it's hacked that's the end of that casino, only big casinos offer refunds or protect their player's money compared to exchanges where they can do a refund and insured their trader's money, I don't think there's the same guarantee that they can offer that they will do a refund.

I think the main reason why casinos fail after a big hack is that they lose the trust of their customers, even if there was a big hack as long as a business still retained their customers somehow then a path to recovery exists, but many players when they see that their preferred casino has been hacked even if they were not affected they are going to be reluctant to play there anymore, which causes casinos to definitely close their doors.

Is there any website which is so secure which has not has gone through any vulnerabilities in the past? If there is any people might use those websites only rather than being the victim of the hacks and social issues.
I think there well be none.

[Oilacris]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

It was on Rollin.io which is already dead or down as of this moment.Nothing on this world is unhackable no matter how tough the security would be.

But in the case of the casino, once it's hacked that's the end of that casino, only big casinos offer refunds or protect their player's money compared to exchanges where they can do a refund and insured their trader's money, I don't think there's the same guarantee that they can offer that they will do a refund.

I think the main reason why casinos fail after a big hack is that they lose the trust of their customers, even if there was a big hack as long as a business still retained their customers somehow then a path to recovery exists, but many players when they see that their preferred casino has been hacked even if they were not affected they are going to be reluctant to play there anymore, which causes casinos to definitely close their doors.

Is there any website which is so secure which has not has gone through any vulnerabilities in the past? If there is any people might use those websites only rather than being the victim of the hacks and social issues.
I think there well be none.

For sure there might be some sites that had been exploited or have some vulnerabilities but it wasnt publicized or known to public neither it had been arranged or fixed up quietly.

Most of the times on where things becomes more known or get more attention is on where it is really having that huge money or funds involved but if its only a minor one then

i dont see for it to be said on the public and its true that none of this world is unhackable.

[CaVO32]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

It was on Rollin.io which is already dead or down as of this moment.Nothing on this world is unhackable no matter how tough the security would be.

But in the case of the casino, once it's hacked that's the end of that casino, only big casinos offer refunds or protect their player's money compared to exchanges where they can do a refund and insured their trader's money, I don't think there's the same guarantee that they can offer that they will do a refund.

I think the main reason why casinos fail after a big hack is that they lose the trust of their customers, even if there was a big hack as long as a business still retained their customers somehow then a path to recovery exists, but many players when they see that their preferred casino has been hacked even if they were not affected they are going to be reluctant to play there anymore, which causes casinos to definitely close their doors.

Is there any website which is so secure which has not has gone through any vulnerabilities in the past? If there is any people might use those websites only rather than being the victim of the hacks and social issues.
I think there well be none.

For sure there might be some sites that had been exploited or have some vulnerabilities but it wasnt publicized or known to public neither it had been arranged or fixed up quietly.

Most of the times on where things becomes more known or get more attention is on where it is really having that huge money or funds involved but if its only a minor one then

i dont see for it to be said on the public and its true that none of this world is unhackable.

If the casino addressed the problem right away, they won't incur heavy losses and no need to go public as it may give negative notion on their security. As much as possible these casinos want a silent resolution if in case they encounter issues. So it won't affect their reputation or image to its players. So maybe, at one point, these casinos encounter a bug or related issues. Only those massive hacks are disclosed. Because we can't expect that they are perfect in all aspects as these hackers will try to penetrate their sites in all possible ways they know of.

[khaled0111]

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I think a testnet version of their gambling site would be just the right thing to get beginners acquainted with their platform.

Some if not all game providers give gamblers the opportunity to test out their games via demo mode where they can play with fun tokens that have no real value. This way they can get acquainted with the games and the platform without the risk of losing their money.
Some casinos have faucets or chat rains which give their users the opportunity to get few sats they can use to try the platform without making a deposit.

I read most replies and it's interesting how, just after few pages, the discussion shifted from "vulnerabilities in gambling websites" to advertising, kyc and many other side topics!

[og kush420]

For sure there might be some sites that had been exploited or have some vulnerabilities but it wasnt publicized or known to public neither it had been arranged or fixed up quietly.

Most of the times on where things becomes more known or get more attention is on where it is really having that huge money or funds involved but if its only a minor one then

i dont see for it to be said on the public and its true that none of this world is unhackable.

That's correct and nothing in the world is secure these days. The smart technology make the hacker more smarter.
So better be safe than sorry. I guess - its good to keep your money and your personal info save. I say that so many times.

[ajochems]

In some countries they make the elimina Of the old users.By saying of they are not subscribed for the long period.It’s not an   ethical one.And they are promoting of their casino with the new terms is not an accepted phenomenon.Why they not allow the people who was involved in the old casino.They may lose of huge many in their sites,why they can’t allow to regain their loss.

[Oilacris]

Here's some similar scenario but this one only talks about 35 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1340581.0

It was on Rollin.io which is already dead or down as of this moment.Nothing on this world is unhackable no matter how tough the security would be.

But in the case of the casino, once it's hacked that's the end of that casino, only big casinos offer refunds or protect their player's money compared to exchanges where they can do a refund and insured their trader's money, I don't think there's the same guarantee that they can offer that they will do a refund.

I think the main reason why casinos fail after a big hack is that they lose the trust of their customers, even if there was a big hack as long as a business still retained their customers somehow then a path to recovery exists, but many players when they see that their preferred casino has been hacked even if they were not affected they are going to be reluctant to play there anymore, which causes casinos to definitely close their doors.

Is there any website which is so secure which has not has gone through any vulnerabilities in the past? If there is any people might use those websites only rather than being the victim of the hacks and social issues.
I think there well be none.

For sure there might be some sites that had been exploited or have some vulnerabilities but it wasnt publicized or known to public neither it had been arranged or fixed up quietly.

Most of the times on where things becomes more known or get more attention is on where it is really having that huge money or funds involved but if its only a minor one then

i dont see for it to be said on the public and its true that none of this world is unhackable.

If the casino addressed the problem right away, they won't incur heavy losses and no need to go public as it may give negative notion on their security. As much as possible these casinos want a silent resolution if in case they encounter issues. So it won't affect their reputation or image to its players. So maybe, at one point, these casinos encounter a bug or related issues. Only those massive hacks are disclosed. Because we can't expect that they are perfect in all aspects as these hackers will try to penetrate their sites in all possible ways they know of.

Its true that once a gambling site or any platform is involved with some hacking incident on exploit then it cant really be avoided that there would be people or community would end up on having bad

impression and would have doubt about their security where even if they do really make their best on strengthening up but doubts and hesitances would be there thats why they do really keep on silent

on some exploits that had been discovered but didnt tend to make out any announcement or giving up some words in related to it.