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June 05, 2022, 09:54:00 PM
 #261

With our technology, I really doubt the developers won't notice easily a discrepancy and sudden difference in their system. If their developers and security management team are always looking at the activities of their site, surely they would notice that there are glitches and errors from the system which people are abusing. Although it would be very unfortunate if the security team isn't really paying attention to details because like what you said, it could lead them to loss of profits, most especially if the abuse of the systme glitch was unnoticed for a long period of time.

This is why it is really important to keep the servers and security measures up to date. One must not be complacent because sometimes there are really errors even though you've already looked upon several times. Having a good team to examine every activities per day is necessary to secure the casino's functionality and security from possible abuse.
If they are attentive and have some kind of monitoring software apart from hiring a good amount of people to watch the site then it will be fixed as soon as possible but if not then those who discovered the bug are lucky that they can still withdraw what they have got and they can abuse it again and again until the admins will finally notice it. They can lose money on this tragedy but they should not lose hope easily. They can try to continue the operations and hope that they can run smoother this time.

This is still a gambling site and they have an advantage over the players. They can surely recover what is lost and they can earn more than that.
Hackers are always a head of what developers think. So even if you think you have secured your website. You can't be sure what loophole you have left.
So be vigilant keep the data safe and play safe. You never know when is the trouble knocking at the door?

you should always make sure that you are up to date with your security protocols. hackers will always find a vulnerable spot in your website. and they will try and try again as that is their work. they are just finding the right moment to penetrate an unguarded system. so if you are holding somebody else's funds, better take care of your business before these hackers siphoned your vault. softwares are getting sophisticated and so the hacker tools . don't get too confident on what you have.

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June 05, 2022, 10:14:32 PM
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With our technology, I really doubt the developers won't notice easily a discrepancy and sudden difference in their system. If their developers and security management team are always looking at the activities of their site, surely they would notice that there are glitches and errors from the system which people are abusing. Although it would be very unfortunate if the security team isn't really paying attention to details because like what you said, it could lead them to loss of profits, most especially if the abuse of the systme glitch was unnoticed for a long period of time.

This is why it is really important to keep the servers and security measures up to date. One must not be complacent because sometimes there are really errors even though you've already looked upon several times. Having a good team to examine every activities per day is necessary to secure the casino's functionality and security from possible abuse.
If they are attentive and have some kind of monitoring software apart from hiring a good amount of people to watch the site then it will be fixed as soon as possible but if not then those who discovered the bug are lucky that they can still withdraw what they have got and they can abuse it again and again until the admins will finally notice it. They can lose money on this tragedy but they should not lose hope easily. They can try to continue the operations and hope that they can run smoother this time.

This is still a gambling site and they have an advantage over the players. They can surely recover what is lost and they can earn more than that.
Hackers are always a head of what developers think. So even if you think you have secured your website. You can't be sure what loophole you have left.
So be vigilant keep the data safe and play safe. You never know when is the trouble knocking at the door?

you should always make sure that you are up to date with your security protocols. hackers will always find a vulnerable spot in your website. and they will try and try again as that is their work. they are just finding the right moment to penetrate an unguarded system. so if you are holding somebody else's funds, better take care of your business before these hackers siphoned your vault. softwares are getting sophisticated and so the hacker tools . don't get too confident on what you have.
Thats why we are really seeing updates and maintenances that happening on certain platforms which i would say that its a must thing to have and as said that hackers are getting more smarter and if things turns out

to be outdated specially on your site security then holes and exploits could really be happening thats why you should really be giving out importance or priority when it comes to security aspect.

Gambling business is big and profitable which its really that right that you would be mindful on protecting any possible abuse and hacks that could happen.

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June 05, 2022, 10:30:53 PM
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There are still some weaknesses in the gambling sites, but what can be done about them? There is a lot of talk about cheating and arbitrage betting. Perhaps rightly so, but what can be done about it? That hassle with table tennis and cams, that does not make sites happy. And then with corona you also had a lot of competitions that were manipulated by the bookies. There are too many matches to monitor all of that in time.

The problem with all those vulnerabilities that the bookie can cancel the results or even stop your withdrawal once they have this opportunity and let you know that you have used those weaknesses to win.
i dont understand your explanation because i tried to understand you but all is entering to my brain, can you expatiate how the bookies can cancel it and stop withdrawal, i hope nobody will hot me for my question, i asked because i want to know the rest in case if i may come close to them and i will know how to jump it

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June 06, 2022, 05:59:25 AM
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With our technology, I really doubt the developers won't notice easily a discrepancy and sudden difference in their system. If their developers and security management team are always looking at the activities of their site, surely they would notice that there are glitches and errors from the system which people are abusing. Although it would be very unfortunate if the security team isn't really paying attention to details because like what you said, it could lead them to loss of profits, most especially if the abuse of the systme glitch was unnoticed for a long period of time.

This is why it is really important to keep the servers and security measures up to date. One must not be complacent because sometimes there are really errors even though you've already looked upon several times. Having a good team to examine every activities per day is necessary to secure the casino's functionality and security from possible abuse.
If they are attentive and have some kind of monitoring software apart from hiring a good amount of people to watch the site then it will be fixed as soon as possible but if not then those who discovered the bug are lucky that they can still withdraw what they have got and they can abuse it again and again until the admins will finally notice it. They can lose money on this tragedy but they should not lose hope easily. They can try to continue the operations and hope that they can run smoother this time.

This is still a gambling site and they have an advantage over the players. They can surely recover what is lost and they can earn more than that.
Hackers are always a head of what developers think. So even if you think you have secured your website. You can't be sure what loophole you have left.
So be vigilant keep the data safe and play safe. You never know when is the trouble knocking at the door?

you should always make sure that you are up to date with your security protocols. hackers will always find a vulnerable spot in your website. and they will try and try again as that is their work. they are just finding the right moment to penetrate an unguarded system. so if you are holding somebody else's funds, better take care of your business before these hackers siphoned your vault. softwares are getting sophisticated and so the hacker tools . don't get too confident on what you have.

I agree with you. Right now, we have a fast paced technology where innovation also keeps in pace. Having an advanced technology have its both advantages and disadvantages. A website must be maintained well in order to be secured enough. Otherwise, hackers will infiltrate the system.

It's really true that while the security is advancing, so are the tools that are used by hackers. They also know how to make countermeasures from security protocols with the help of technology. They are no longer the traditional thieves people used to know. In fact, a lot of them even are ahead of the developers which why a few really manage to enter a strict and strongly protected website and database.
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June 06, 2022, 08:34:29 AM
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I guess this need to make an action by the gambling platform immediately because this is a crucial related to their transactions it might affect the sales and if the people see this kind of bug they will take an abuse and make an easy money.
Indeed. A bug in a casino and only being known by a few people will lead them to try to abuse it and make easy money. If the casino's securities team did not discover this, sooner or later, the money there would run out without them knowing what caused it. The finance team can also find out if there are transactions that are not as usual by auditing their financial statements every day.
^ It is very crucial to risk your fund and abuse the bug because sooner or later they will find it and it could be, your account will be locked and did not access anymore. We can tell the bug to the team, and they probably give rewards for those who can report the bug, that is why I like a gambling casino that has a bug bounty and the hunter will find it and you will know how to fix it before they will abuse the bugs. The longer casino is in service the more they have encountered issues and I don't think vulnerabilities are pretty normal, for me, as long as it has a good reputation and it's fine to go.
I think it would be better to act that way if we find a bug in a casino and tell it to the casino team so they can fix it immediately. That would help the team act before something bad happens to the casino and it looks like the casino will be rewarding people who find the bug. It would also give the casino a good rating if they rewarded people for finding the bug.

But if we just use it for ourselves without telling the casino, there is a possibility that they will lock our account and will make us unable to withdraw the money.

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June 06, 2022, 10:52:14 AM
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I guess this need to make an action by the gambling platform immediately because this is a crucial related to their transactions it might affect the sales and if the people see this kind of bug they will take an abuse and make an easy money.
Indeed. A bug in a casino and only being known by a few people will lead them to try to abuse it and make easy money. If the casino's securities team did not discover this, sooner or later, the money there would run out without them knowing what caused it. The finance team can also find out if there are transactions that are not as usual by auditing their financial statements every day.
^ It is very crucial to risk your fund and abuse the bug because sooner or later they will find it and it could be, your account will be locked and did not access anymore. We can tell the bug to the team, and they probably give rewards for those who can report the bug, that is why I like a gambling casino that has a bug bounty and the hunter will find it and you will know how to fix it before they will abuse the bugs. The longer casino is in service the more they have encountered issues and I don't think vulnerabilities are pretty normal, for me, as long as it has a good reputation and it's fine to go.
I think it would be better to act that way if we find a bug in a casino and tell it to the casino team so they can fix it immediately. That would help the team act before something bad happens to the casino and it looks like the casino will be rewarding people who find the bug. It would also give the casino a good rating if they rewarded people for finding the bug.

But if we just use it for ourselves without telling the casino, there is a possibility that they will lock our account and will make us unable to withdraw the money.

Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
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June 06, 2022, 08:27:47 PM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
The bugs and issues are part of every online business in particular where transactions are involved.
Hackers are no doubt one step ahead of the developer. When developer secure the site - the hacker look for the loopholes. I am sure casinos hire ethical hackers too incase the website it attacked.

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June 07, 2022, 08:09:42 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
Not many people would be happy to tell a casino about a bug in their casino but instead use it for themselves. If you have such intentions, you have good intentions and it will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.

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June 07, 2022, 09:50:29 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
Not many people would be happy to tell a casino about a bug in their casino but instead use it for themselves. If you have such intentions, you have good intentions and it will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.

You're right. Not everyone will be a good guy in telling a casino or gambling website that their sefurity has been infiltrated or has a glitch. This is because most of the time, people have the tendency to be selfish and greedy. Sometimes people really don't say a thing so that tjey can utilize something.

If you have morals and principles that you uphold, definitely you will not be okay with this because this is still a form of cheating. However, not everyone could be like that and that is the sad reality. Perhaps what the casinos could do is have a team that will check their system and  security every once in a while so they won't experience such abuse.
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June 07, 2022, 10:16:11 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
Not many people would be happy to tell a casino about a bug in their casino but instead use it for themselves. If you have such intentions, you have good intentions and it will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.

I will have to go around a lot of casinos, since many have this provider  Grin
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June 07, 2022, 11:36:26 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
The bugs and issues are part of every online business in particular where transactions are involved.
Hackers are no doubt one step ahead of the developer. When developer secure the site - the hacker look for the loopholes. I am sure casinos hire ethical hackers too incase the website it attacked.
to pretend Big issues ? better to conduct a "Bug Hunting Contest" that you will offer good amount in every legitimate Bugs users may find in your site so from this and on? you will upgrade each area that has bugs and will also make your site Bug free in the future.
we have seen several casinos nowadays that conduct such event and yes they are successful in their business running .

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June 07, 2022, 01:26:43 PM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.

As long as there is innovation, there are vulnerabilities. Basically, if something is being created then it will surely have some kind of a flaw.
It's just a matter of time until someone figures how it can be exploited. This is why hackers and bug bounty hunters are being paid large amounts of money to find flaws in websites.
Even I am planning on to learn the art of cracking vulnerabilities but it's so damn tough to understand all the concepts.

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June 08, 2022, 07:04:27 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
Not many people would be happy to tell a casino about a bug in their casino but instead use it for themselves. If you have such intentions, you have good intentions and it will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.

You're right. Not everyone will be a good guy in telling a casino or gambling website that their sefurity has been infiltrated or has a glitch. This is because most of the time, people have the tendency to be selfish and greedy. Sometimes people really don't say a thing so that tjey can utilize something.

If you have morals and principles that you uphold, definitely you will not be okay with this because this is still a form of cheating. However, not everyone could be like that and that is the sad reality. Perhaps what the casinos could do is have a team that will check their system and  security every once in a while so they won't experience such abuse.
Even if you have morals and principles, it can also tempt you to penetrate the casino through those bugs and see what you can get. Maybe that's the temptation we'll face if we find the bug. We must be honest with the casino to report the bug to the casino so they can fix it immediately. The team from the casino will not always be able to find various kinds of bugs because they are already very busy managing and maintaining their casino.

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June 08, 2022, 11:08:32 AM
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If anyone has experience with finding bugs, please contact me so I can make sure that this bug actually works.
Seriously? What if you will just abused it? And even if you present yourself as a part of the team, it will still be hard to convince us. There is no need for you to test the bugs if they are working or not, because it was not some kind of a feature that needs to be perfect but the more the owners will like the bugs to be killed immediately before it can cause a lot of damage to their websites.

If you want to find bugs you can find it on your own. Now on topic, so many sites are vulnerable in the past but good thing that number has declined as the site creator are more familiar on the technology but they shouldn't be confident since the knowledge of the hackers are also improving.

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June 08, 2022, 11:23:12 AM
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There had been quite a number of Vulnerabilities in gambling websites since 2011 from satoshi dice to primedice and a lot more.

What was the total number of exploits and which ones were the lethal ones, I think that hufflepuff guy on primedice did the most damage.
The exploit was called something like "Race time condition" and I read something similar in my CS class but it was related to a banking system so it could be different.

Basically, it was giving multiple inputs to the system trying to get some response from the system in 2 places, and then exploiting the system.

Also, Is there any list for me to check regarding exploits? I'm thinking about developing something so it may come handy.
[There are vulnerabilities in each market and we should look for one or more alternative options. Recently, I came across a Mallconomy, a great earning site. If interested you can comment.]
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June 08, 2022, 11:31:30 AM
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Or they will lose a decent amount, and then they will already understand that the game was dishonest) I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
Not many people would be happy to tell a casino about a bug in their casino but instead use it for themselves. If you have such intentions, you have good intentions and it will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.

You're right. Not everyone will be a good guy in telling a casino or gambling website that their sefurity has been infiltrated or has a glitch. This is because most of the time, people have the tendency to be selfish and greedy. Sometimes people really don't say a thing so that tjey can utilize something.

If you have morals and principles that you uphold, definitely you will not be okay with this because this is still a form of cheating. However, not everyone could be like that and that is the sad reality. Perhaps what the casinos could do is have a team that will check their system and  security every once in a while so they won't experience such abuse.

Sometimes the need for money is much bigger than any moral you might actually have.For example if that guy who has found a glitch which can make him like 1 million dollars which happens to also have a big family and this amount can secure his lifetime future I find it very difficult for this person to abide by the morals which I believe he should do but the pressure to change life and make it secure financially at least for 1 generation is much bigger and tempting.Human nature is well known to fall prey of greed in a lot of circumstances so I believe in the end it would be based on the type of glitch you found,the more money it makes the less prone to tell about this,unfortunately this is human nature.

It takes a lot of learning and discipline to abide by morals,a lot of time which can be destroyed in just a few seconds by greed like in the above example.
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June 08, 2022, 04:00:51 PM
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I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
In my experience, everyone would actually say this but only a few would actually report the issue especially when they have everything to gain from it.

It will give you something and the casino will probably reward you. It will be better for you because you are not using the leak in the server personally but can tell the casino so they can fix it quickly.
Yeah using a disadvantage of a person to our own gain is rather selfish and unethical.
However not everyone has ethics and morals,
But in every way, It is good to be good.


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I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
In my experience, everyone would actually say this but only a few would actually report the issue especially when they have everything to gain from it.

I am very pessimistic on this issue.   Sad
Unfortunately, I think that most of the users who use vulnerabilities for their own enrichment do this without giving a damn about conscience and morality. After all, they internally justify themselves, as it were, with the thesis that they deceive me wherever possible. So why should I be honest. Especially if I think that no one will catch me and punish me. There is and even thrives a huge number of hackers who even guess that they can be put in jail. But they still do their dirty work and run around the world and hide from justice.

Alas, there are few honest and absolutely moral people.
They are clearly lacking on this planet Earth.

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June 08, 2022, 09:48:41 PM
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I would gladly tell the casino so that they can protect themselves for a reward.
In my experience, everyone would actually say this but only a few would actually report the issue especially when they have everything to gain from it.

I am very pessimistic on this issue.   Sad
Unfortunately, I think that most of the users who use vulnerabilities for their own enrichment do this without giving a damn about conscience and morality. After all, they internally justify themselves, as it were, with the thesis that they deceive me wherever possible. So why should I be honest. Especially if I think that no one will catch me and punish me. There is and even thrives a huge number of hackers who even guess that they can be put in jail. But they still do their dirty work and run around the world and hide from justice.

Alas, there are few honest and absolutely moral people.
They are clearly lacking on this planet Earth.

It does really depend on the morals of the person how he will approach on this scenario.
And sometimes, even if you say it to yourself, you won't do it, but when the opportunity presents, you may change your mind.
So we can't really tell what's going on with the minds of people, when you are already in the situation.
But of course, as much as possible, much better if you will do the right thing, so your conscience is clear and you have no worries in your mind.
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