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August 23, 2022, 11:08:45 PM
 #341

OP mentioned the race condition vulnerability which seems to be the favorite vulnerability for hackers who are into this mainly for the money as it may allow them to edit their balance and withdraw more then they actually have. It will be interesting to read how it works in details!
Another common vulnerability you can find on many websites is not setting a limit on how many times you can enter a wrong password. This makes it easier for hackers to perform a brute force attack.

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August 24, 2022, 12:55:37 AM
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I think you didn't get the meaning of vulnerabilities . The risk you are talking about and the reputation of the casinos are completely different things. Vulnerabilities are weak systems in a website that can be used by hackers to win slots or  steal money from casinos.
This do really shows that there are some users who dont really have any idea on what they are talking or doesnt know the differences in between reputation and security system talks.

And as mentioned this is totally different if you do really make out some in-depth understanding but turns out that people arent really that having the time at least. Cheesy

Vulnerability is always there and thats why companies or platforms do hire out those security enhancement kind of people on the site since this is a business
that do involves huge money then it would really be just common sense that they would be putting some emphasis.

With that vulnerability is the prone of the system or the gambling platform itself and by that the players or the users at the same time is at risk so make sure the platform has a high class of security to make sure all things are safe to do. Like mostly it is a money transactions and of course still there some chance of the system is vulnerable the hackers now grab this opportunity to steal.

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August 24, 2022, 01:52:13 PM
Last edit: August 24, 2022, 02:14:29 PM by radontm
 #343

OP mentioned the race condition vulnerability which seems to be the favorite vulnerability for hackers who are into this mainly for the money as it may allow them to edit their balance and withdraw more then they actually have. It will be interesting to read how it works in details!
Another common vulnerability you can find on many websites is not setting a limit on how many times you can enter a wrong password. This makes it easier for hackers to perform a brute force attack.

Yes you are right, most website have no protection against brute force. But on our last scans, we found many of them leak real server ip behind cloudflare. Found sensitive login pages, like: cpanel ftp, ssh, admin panel, phpmyadmin, etc. Brute forcing on these can be more dangerous than users logins.
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August 24, 2022, 02:59:19 PM
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Losing money in a casino is not a casino vulnerability but it is because of your lack of control that you experience losing money

here i think the gambler is the one with vulnerabilities and not the gambling, any error that comes from the user's end is as a result of the gambler's failure to have avoided that, moreso it's all about taking risk, so why should there be fear when the consequence is felt.

But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability.

that's why every gambler need to investigate well and have recommendations on any gambling site they wanted to because some already have a good reputation history and maintain that fact not being compromised, while some casinos are already failing right before they start, but it all depends on the operators of the casinos.

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August 24, 2022, 07:12:31 PM
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~snip~
I think you didn't get the meaning of vulnerabilities . The risk you are talking about and the reputation of the casinos are completely different things. Vulnerabilities are weak systems in a website that can be used by hackers to win slots or  steal money from casinos.
This do really shows that there are some users who dont really have any idea on what they are talking or doesnt know the differences in between reputation and security system talks.

And as mentioned this is totally different if you do really make out some in-depth understanding but turns out that people arent really that having the time at least. Cheesy

Vulnerability is always there and thats why companies or platforms do hire out those security enhancement kind of people on the site since this is a business
that do involves huge money then it would really be just common sense that they would be putting some emphasis.

With that vulnerability is the prone of the system or the gambling platform itself and by that the players or the users at the same time is at risk so make sure the platform has a high class of security to make sure all things are safe to do. Like mostly it is a money transactions and of course still there some chance of the system is vulnerable the hackers now grab this opportunity to steal.
With soo much money do made out by gambling platforms or businesses then it would really be just normal that they would really be putting some emphasis or importance when it comes to security.

This doesnt only ensure peoples funds but also does increase out confidence on people who are playing and to those who are tending to play when they do able to observe that this platform does have some good reputation when it comes to security which means it could hook up potential players on the market.

Vulnerability would be always there since there's no perfect security on this world but if they would be that active on putting up some updates and maintaining it then it would be fine.

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August 26, 2022, 03:53:56 AM
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sometimes other casinos have issues regarding transaction confirmation taking too long.
In some rare cases, slow transactions may be caused by a bug in the casino's payment system (ex. inaccurate fee estimator) but in most cases this happens simply because the casino has bad services. It's not really a vulnerability which may be exploited to compromise the security of the platform (ie.steal customers' funds and/or data).

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Despite its importance, most casinos - especially New ones- do not invest too much (if ever) in the security of their platforms. They do not conduct security audits or have any bug bounty programs. This is why we see new casinos get hacked all the time.

It is that all these cases can be understandable, it can also be that the casino has its limits and that can be corrected, but I have seen on many occasions that casinos when they make or process their withdrawals automatically is much better than doing it manually , and as I have said in other similar threads, when I see that they make withdrawals in manual mode, I stay as far away as possible, because nobody under any circumstances can retain our funds when playing legally and achieving the objectives respecting all the rules, So this is something that must be taken into account so that you do not fall into errors of this type, which for many clients is usually quite annoying.

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August 26, 2022, 04:50:18 AM
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 - A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

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August 26, 2022, 07:24:50 AM
 #348

With soo much money do made out by gambling platforms or businesses then it would really be just normal that they would really be putting some emphasis or importance when it comes to security.

This doesnt only ensure peoples funds but also does increase out confidence on people who are playing and to those who are tending to play when they do able to observe that this platform does have some good reputation when it comes to security which means it could hook up potential players on the market.

Vulnerability would be always there since there's no perfect security on this world but if they would be that active on putting up some updates and maintaining it then it would be fine.
True, however it is also something very difficult to do, a casino, exchange or any other platform in which our coins are stored needs to keep their security 100% of the time and counter any attack by the different hackers trying to gain illegal entry on their systems, while hackers only need to succeed once in order not only to get a huge amount of money but also ruin the reputation of any service they happen to hack, so even a service which does everything they can to protect their users can fall victim of those hackers despite their best efforts.
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August 26, 2022, 03:28:10 PM
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But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability.

that's why every gambler need to investigate well and have recommendations on any gambling site they wanted to because some already have a good reputation history and maintain that fact not being compromised, while some casinos are already failing right before they start, but it all depends on the operators of the casinos.
As long as the casino can maintain security on their website, these vulnerabilities can be handled properly and with the support of their security team who always protects the site from attacks, the casino will still be able to maintain its reputation among other casinos. Even if the casino has a history of good reputation, it does not guarantee that their casino site will always be safe because vulnerabilities on the website can occur at any time and through any means.

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But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability.

that's why every gambler need to investigate well and have recommendations on any gambling site they wanted to because some already have a good reputation history and maintain that fact not being compromised, while some casinos are already failing right before they start, but it all depends on the operators of the casinos.
As long as the casino can maintain security on their website, these vulnerabilities can be handled properly and with the support of their security team who always protects the site from attacks, the casino will still be able to maintain its reputation among other casinos. Even if the casino has a history of good reputation, it does not guarantee that their casino site will always be safe because vulnerabilities on the website can occur at any time and through any means.
This is why its just standard that they would really be having some budget allocation for security enhancing because this is a business that do really involve huge money just like on what some members said above that
it is really just part of the business of this type will really be minding or wont really lose up focus on security because these places or platforms are the honeypot of hackers since they do know that it does have lots of money once they do succeed plus into those abusers or exploiters who are really that active on finding up holes.If you dont like for the business to be affected or losing big sums of money then
its just normal that you wouldnt really ignore in terms of security.

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But if the crash you mean is losing funds because there are hackers who can enter the casino system and take members' money, including funds in the casino, that's just a website vulnerability.

that's why every gambler need to investigate well and have recommendations on any gambling site they wanted to because some already have a good reputation history and maintain that fact not being compromised, while some casinos are already failing right before they start, but it all depends on the operators of the casinos.
As long as the casino can maintain security on their website, these vulnerabilities can be handled properly and with the support of their security team who always protects the site from attacks, the casino will still be able to maintain its reputation among other casinos. Even if the casino has a history of good reputation, it does not guarantee that their casino site will always be safe because vulnerabilities on the website can occur at any time and through any means.
This is why its just standard that they would really be having some budget allocation for security enhancing because this is a business that do really involve huge money just like on what some members said above that
it is really just part of the business of this type will really be minding or wont really lose up focus on security because these places or platforms are the honeypot of hackers since they do know that it does have lots of money once they do succeed plus into those abusers or exploiters who are really that active on finding up holes.If you dont like for the business to be affected or losing big sums of money then
its just normal that you wouldnt really ignore in terms of security.
If it's about the budget for increased security, I'm sure the casino must have prepared it so they won't forget always to protect their casino from incoming attacks. That's why every casino that wants to expand its business must always pay attention to security issues on its website and make security their priority in ensuring every member that their site is safe and always try to protect the data in the casino. And if an attack comes to their website, the casino team will try to find out and fix it so it doesn't interfere with its business.

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August 27, 2022, 10:56:23 AM
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- A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

Before a gambling website release there's a lot of progress happens before it releases in the community like the beta and alpha testing, if there's some bug sees by the user they can now report to the management but if it is all about the transaction abuse they might need to make sure that they are immediately fixing those issue else they will lose up their assets. Not all new start gambling casinos have a good reputation already they are still building it through giving a good quality of service at the same time is good user experience.

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August 27, 2022, 11:39:57 PM
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- A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

Before a gambling website release there's a lot of progress happens before it releases in the community like the beta and alpha testing, if there's some bug sees by the user they can now report to the management but if it is all about the transaction abuse they might need to make sure that they are immediately fixing those issue else they will lose up their assets. Not all new start gambling casinos have a good reputation already they are still building it through giving a good quality of service at the same time is good user experience.

usually, we see new casinos running their bug bounty program at the start. however, later on with their journey here, you won't see them holding this kind of program. though we don't know what they are doing behind doors to secure their site, i believe, casinos or any other site should continue checking possible vulnerabilities of their site. they may run it internally or if they have dedicated team for security purposes. because it is vital as they are holding funds not only for themselves but also their players.

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August 29, 2022, 03:34:44 AM
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- A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

Before a gambling website release there's a lot of progress happens before it releases in the community like the beta and alpha testing, if there's some bug sees by the user they can now report to the management but if it is all about the transaction abuse they might need to make sure that they are immediately fixing those issue else they will lose up their assets. Not all new start gambling casinos have a good reputation already they are still building it through giving a good quality of service at the same time is good user experience.

usually, we see new casinos running their bug bounty program at the start. however, later on with their journey here, you won't see them holding this kind of program. though we don't know what they are doing behind doors to secure their site, i believe, casinos or any other site should continue checking possible vulnerabilities of their site. they may run it internally or if they have dedicated team for security purposes. because it is vital as they are holding funds not only for themselves but also their players.
And this is something I consider a mistake, bugs can appear for all kind of reasons and even technology that at some point was thought to be secure it is later discover this was not the case, so in my opinion casinos should always have a bug bounty in the case they missed something and an user or a person dedicated to finding bugs can profit from this discovery in a legal way, after all if even sites like Facebook which have almost an unlimited budget dedicated to the security of their website still get hacked then it is fair to say this is even more true for a casino.
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Any site to allows you to gamble with nonconfirmed coins is vulnerable to a double-spend attack. People could wager their balance and if they win then waits for the transaction to confirm, and if they lose they could make a double spend, that's a known vulnerability.

I've used sites with no confirm required and you could purchase but the main difference was the delivery of goods or services was not immediate. If I had pulled this trick, I could not benefit as the item I buy was not delivered to me immediately.  For gambling it sounds an obvious disaster, Im surprised we are talking about more then one site which allowed this for any amount of time.    The fault might be that BTC has had fees far too high and encouraged risk taking by websites on this point.

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August 29, 2022, 09:41:16 PM
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- A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

Before a gambling website release there's a lot of progress happens before it releases in the community like the beta and alpha testing, if there's some bug sees by the user they can now report to the management but if it is all about the transaction abuse they might need to make sure that they are immediately fixing those issue else they will lose up their assets. Not all new start gambling casinos have a good reputation already they are still building it through giving a good quality of service at the same time is good user experience.
Yes beta and alfa testing is very important for gambling sites to check fir any vulnerabilities and possible errors that can make gamblers not to enjoy there stay or games they will love to play on a betting site.

Gamblers are supposed to enjoy there experience on a gmabling site without any problem thag could make betters change there interest about what they get from there.
But there are sites or companies that do really rush off on things and neglect and forget out when it comes to backtesting or any testing phase which is really that crucial when it comes to this kind of business which it should really be that prioritized because if not then you would really be expecting these kind of vulnerabilities which would really cost that big which is something that we dont like to happen. There are people who are just really waiting on exploiting out sites or businesses which does have weak security.It would really be something that company owner
should really focus on doing so if they dont really like to mess up.

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August 30, 2022, 09:52:20 PM
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- A gambling site platform only gets into trouble when bugs enter it. That's why gambling owners should be aware of these issues, but most of them in reality are not that focused to pay attention to these problems faced by the gambling users that they manage. Instead of what they should have, they have pending solutions and solutions to solve them immediately and not lose the trust of the gamblers immediately.
  That's why the reminder to all gamblers who enter a gambling platform is to first learn to find out if the gambling they are going to play is safe or not, is legit or not.

Before a gambling website release there's a lot of progress happens before it releases in the community like the beta and alpha testing, if there's some bug sees by the user they can now report to the management but if it is all about the transaction abuse they might need to make sure that they are immediately fixing those issue else they will lose up their assets. Not all new start gambling casinos have a good reputation already they are still building it through giving a good quality of service at the same time is good user experience.
Yes beta and alfa testing is very important for gambling sites to check fir any vulnerabilities and possible errors that can make gamblers not to enjoy there stay or games they will love to play on a betting site.

Gamblers are supposed to enjoy there experience on a gmabling site without any problem thag could make betters change there interest about what they get from there.
But there are sites or companies that do really rush off on things and neglect and forget out when it comes to backtesting or any testing phase which is really that crucial when it comes to this kind of business which it should really be that prioritized because if not then you would really be expecting these kind of vulnerabilities which would really cost that big which is something that we dont like to happen. There are people who are just really waiting on exploiting out sites or businesses which does have weak security.It would really be something that company owner
should really focus on doing so if they dont really like to mess up.
You know that a good gambling site team will always check the performances of the site before launching it in the market in the market so I will not be surprised if I see sites that have little vulnerabilities that make gamblers to ride on them especially when it has a loophole where gamers can penetrate and make a lots of cheating that will make the gambling site to have much loses.
Vulnerability are not supposed to be seen on gambling platform at all.
Not only the gambling sites but all the businesses check their functionality before they go live.
The good business owner do care for their customer and they come up with good solutions for their customer.
So be it gambling or any other business - the testing is important.
This is why there are test should be done first before having that full launch.A business owner will really be thinking up all the ways or possibilities for those things to happen.
Its true that this isnt only for gambling but also in other businesses as well where security do really matters because anything online  could be attacked.
If its really needed to have lots of testing then you should do before making some official launch which all check list should be on green.

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August 30, 2022, 10:43:03 PM
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Not only the gambling sites but all the businesses check their functionality before they go live.
The good business owner do care for their customer and they come up with good solutions for their customer.
So be it gambling or any other business - the testing is important.
This is why there are test should be done first before having that full launch.A business owner will really be thinking up all the ways or possibilities for those things to happen.
Its true that this isnt only for gambling but also in other businesses as well where security do really matters because anything online  could be attacked.
If its really needed to have lots of testing then you should do before making some official launch which all check list should be on green.
Test is a must at full launch and it is the standard. This is why there are beta test and alpha test on applications even on websites. Those possibilities like bugs, errors and vulnerabilities are widely tested on beta and alpha test so they can clear out those problems before the full launch. There are some who are hiring someone for penetration testing and I think it is the most needed for casinos since it involves a massive amount of money. There are also some casino who are doing bug bounty campaigns here in bitcoin talk to help themselves as well as the members here to find bugs and explore for some reward.
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August 30, 2022, 11:43:08 PM
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Not only the gambling sites but all the businesses check their functionality before they go live.
The good business owner do care for their customer and they come up with good solutions for their customer.
So be it gambling or any other business - the testing is important.
This is why there are test should be done first before having that full launch.A business owner will really be thinking up all the ways or possibilities for those things to happen.
Its true that this isnt only for gambling but also in other businesses as well where security do really matters because anything online  could be attacked.
If its really needed to have lots of testing then you should do before making some official launch which all check list should be on green.
Test is a must at full launch and it is the standard. This is why there are beta test and alpha test on applications even on websites. Those possibilities like bugs, errors and vulnerabilities are widely tested on beta and alpha test so they can clear out those problems before the full launch. There are some who are hiring someone for penetration testing and I think it is the most needed for casinos since it involves a massive amount of money. There are also some casino who are doing bug bounty campaigns here in bitcoin talk to help themselves as well as the members here to find bugs and explore for some reward.

and this is why you will doubt the intentions of new casinos that are deployed in a hurry. you can even get the notion that they are not for long term if the important contents of the site are missing like the ToS. for a serious business, they will do these checks and validation. as you will be holding someone else's funds, their security is one your utmost concern. this kind of business is attractive to these hackers, as money is involve and these hackers know some are not taking care of their security protocols seriously.

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August 30, 2022, 11:46:05 PM
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Not only the gambling sites but all the businesses check their functionality before they go live.
The good business owner do care for their customer and they come up with good solutions for their customer.
So be it gambling or any other business - the testing is important.
This is why there are test should be done first before having that full launch.A business owner will really be thinking up all the ways or possibilities for those things to happen.
Its true that this isnt only for gambling but also in other businesses as well where security do really matters because anything online  could be attacked.
If its really needed to have lots of testing then you should do before making some official launch which all check list should be on green.
Test is a must at full launch and it is the standard. This is why there are beta test and alpha test on applications even on websites. Those possibilities like bugs, errors and vulnerabilities are widely tested on beta and alpha test so they can clear out those problems before the full launch. There are some who are hiring someone for penetration testing and I think it is the most needed for casinos since it involves a massive amount of money. There are also some casino who are doing bug bounty campaigns here in bitcoin talk to help themselves as well as the members here to find bugs and explore for some reward.

and this is why you will doubt the intentions of new casinos that are deployed in a hurry. you can even get the notion that they are not for long term if the important contents of the site are missing like the ToS. for a serious business, they will do these checks and validation.

That's right its hard to trust new deployed casino because they can easily run if they get huge amount deposited from their gamblers, that's why many trust those reputable and let those newly comes prove their intention to run a honest business first. That's why we need to seek for betterment because we are dealing money and for sure we don't want to lose it from scams.

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