Vulnerabilities in gambling websites in past

[michellee]

Lol you must be new to crypto casinos. They are actually so bad that it's a big surprise when some actually do well, take care of customers, and have a great service. On this forum we're lucky to have a lot to pick from, but that's because us gamblers use and rate them and if they start getting shady we are very fast to act on it.

Go to any crypto casino review site and see 100s of others not here, I am willing to bet many actually suck at withdrawal issues even if "trusted".

Not really. I've known crypto casinos for a long time but maybe I don't gamble as much as you do

I don't think trusted casinos are too bad at giving big surprises because most of them are satisfied with the surprises. And if many customers are satisfied, the casino already has a place in the hearts of gamblers. This will give benefit the casino so that it can become big and continue to provide satisfactory service to its customers.

This forum is a reference for inexperienced crypto gambling players because they can ask questions, learn, or even complain.

I don't know about withdrawal problems because so far, I haven't had any problems with withdrawals and I can withdraw funds from the casino whenever I want

You talk about casinos having a place in the hearts of gamblers and I agree, but this only happens for those who have a presence right here in this forum.

And this is the small "problem" I feel with us lucky forum users, especially those who've been around for years. We all have our favorite casinos and bookies here, we're close to the users and each other and even in some cases the owners, so there's a big trust network, and they take care of us, and we take care of each other by ensuring the casinos do their responsibility.

But as I said out there, try going to a casino review site and see 100s of other crypto casinos, who don't have ANN threads on this forum. Try gambling there as much as we do here and then request withdrawals. Check out AskGamblers also and see all their problems there

We don't realize how lucky we are here on this forum.

I don't want to risk going to casino review sites and trying them out one by one because I don't see they will be profitable. The owner of that review site is more profitable because he can get new members who join under him and if that member deposits some money and plays, he will surely get attractive returns.

I prefer the casinos on this forum because I can see how the representatives or even the owners can communicate with everyone here to advance the casino site. From there, there will be a close relationship between the casino owner and us or his representative and we will all take care of each other as you say. And that is what makes trust will grow between us.

[EarnOnVictor]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

What you have just explained is good and that is the way the real companies with internet presence have been doing too. But to be honest with you, many of them have their lapses, which is why we have to thoroughly know what the company has to offer before engaging with them. Some companies would employ and develop their experts on securities and upgrades, while others because of the lack of will to pay more will either employ the low-skilled ones or temporarily employ an external specialist that would cause data breaches outside the company. I've been a victim of the last case before.

[Dunamisx]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

What you have just explained is good and that is the way the real companies with internet presence have been doing too. But to be honest with you, many of them have their lapses, which is why we have to thoroughly know what the company has to offer before engaging with them. Some companies would employ and develop their experts on securities and upgrades, while others because of the lack of will to pay more will either employ the low-skilled ones or temporarily employ an external specialist that would cause data breaches outside the company. I've been a victim of the last case before.

I got your point as well here, the thing is there's no way one can do without employing hands to serve along with the developers, but this has been a somewhat challenges whenever there's a change of hands from these casino operators, those working with them cannot stay there for live, they will also go and new set of employees will come in, but the company remains and the privacy being with formal employees serves a threat to them especially when hired by  another casino, competition and attacks begins right from there, but i want to believe the advanced casinos acknowledge the goings in this regard and have some means adopted in tackling such.

[gunhell16]

These days it's a must to have a casino license if you own a casino, most of the stuff in crypto and blockchain is getting centralized continuously, and simultaneously it's just a matter of time when the government have their own blockchain, I've heard something about Solana that it's a centralized crypto I'm not sure if that's true but I'm going to do quick google search after posting this reply.

I'm not sure if casinos really need a license, we can see some casinos operating since some years ago without one and they still alive, a couple of examples are freebitco(dot)in and Just-Dice.

And the fun part is that people trust more on a provably fair site, than a site who don't allow users to verify their rolls but they have a license.

The problem to play in a casino without a license is that we can't complain if something goes wrong with it.

This is the only thing that is not good when an online casino does not have a license, there is no opponent against the gambler if he ever gets

into trouble and the gambler should not expect to get his money. Unlike casinos that have a license to operate online,

even if there is a problem, someone will assist customers with the issue they submit to help support.

[Coin_trader]

These days it's a must to have a casino license if you own a casino, most of the stuff in crypto and blockchain is getting centralized continuously, and simultaneously it's just a matter of time when the government have their own blockchain, I've heard something about Solana that it's a centralized crypto I'm not sure if that's true but I'm going to do quick google search after posting this reply.

I'm not sure if casinos really need a license, we can see some casinos operating since some years ago without one and they still alive, a couple of examples are freebitco(dot)in and Just-Dice.

And the fun part is that people trust more on a provably fair site, than a site who don't allow users to verify their rolls but they have a license.

The problem to play in a casino without a license is that we can't complain if something goes wrong with it.

This is the only thing that is not good when an online casino does not have a license, there is no opponent against the gambler if he ever gets

into trouble and the gambler should not expect to get his money. Unlike casinos that have a license to operate online,

even if there is a problem, someone will assist customers with the issue they submit to help support.

I believe dealing with issue on casino with or without a license is still the same because customer can’t easily contact license provider about his concern that’s why we can see a lot of complaints posted here in the forum against casino with license. Only there reputation is what they are protecting which is why most of the time a case with valid basis can be solved here is because casino is being pressured by users here to pay the complainant.

In reality casino license is just a design because Curacao don’t check all the complaints throw to the casino that holding there license and sometimes those casino that runs for a long time without a license is more trusted to a new casino that just recently get there license to operate.

Justdice, Freebitcoin and other casino with probably fair system that still running until now is the best example of trusted casino due to there long existence on this business.

[slaman29]

We don't realize how lucky we are here on this forum.

I wouldn't call it luck, the community built those casinos and in return those casinos also built the community we’ve in the forum, and the most important part is that this is not an exclusive community, anyone can join and the only thing they need to do is to come to the forum and become active, however the forum format is now not very liked by the people, which prefer a more instant form of communication, and just for that small detail they’re willing to miss the great advantages of belonging to this community.

It's luck that we're ending up on the forum and choosing the casinos we play because of the exposure on the forum.

To be honest, I've seen more active gambling communities in other places (I mentioned one above) but they don't have the same protections like we can enjoy from the trust/support network here. They're all not exclusive (bitcointalk does feel more exclusive because it's crypto only!).

What else would you call us being here if not luck? I wouldn't say I'm here because of intelligence or genius

[len01]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

[EarnOnVictor]

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

What you wrote caught my attention, and I would like to advise you not to trust any gambling company totally even if they are doing all they could do to secure everything. I warned you about that because I was once a victim, this is not a bluff, and it is one of the most reputable sites that you might vouch for, only that I don't want to mention it.

Users' data, including mine, were breached and one white hacker sent me a message and warned me that my data as been breached from that site because of the security lapses that he warned them about but they did not listen to him. He sent many others the same message with proof but promised that he would not sell it on the black market.

[Dunamisx]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Almost every standard and reputable casino companies have a system in place in tackling such menace as such in hacks, but let's consider it this way that one cannot be smarter than someone who is after his downfall especially the kind of unknown enemy fights, some attackers too don't launch an attack to hack it without having some clue about the casino, some were even orchestrated by an insider who happens to be their informants, what we pray is for them not to determine it, but once they mean an attack to be launched, 60% guaranteed they will launch it and successfully.

[LUCKMCFLY]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Yes, we all trust that a platform can be responsible for all development, and the vulnerability that is at the expense of what may occur for various reasons that are alien or unknown to the casino, for this reason I think that currently it is more difficult than There are vulnerabilities, some vulnerabilities are because there may really be some kind of plot between workers inside the casino and others, for this it is better to find out all your staff and highlight what is convenient or not for the casino, a vulnerability of a casino can be in question a developer, since he is the one who owns the keys and codes of games, deposits and withdrawals.

[tabas]

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.

It should be like that at most times. I saw it from exchanges on how they professionally managed to handle a hacking incident and how they've made their users calm until they've improved their security.

because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Well, they didn't went there just to waste the reputation that they've built from a long time. So, they have to do something like that for them to maintain their name and as well as the good reputation that they already have.

[Dunamisx]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Yes, we all trust that a platform can be responsible for all development, and the vulnerability that is at the expense of what may occur for various reasons that are alien or unknown to the casino, for this reason I think that currently it is more difficult than There are vulnerabilities, some vulnerabilities are because there may really be some kind of plot between workers inside the casino and others, for this it is better to find out all your staff and highlight what is convenient or not for the casino, a vulnerability of a casino can be in question a developer, since he is the one who owns the keys and codes of games, deposits and withdrawals.

Well said, in every casinos mistakes are inevitable and the tendencies for attacking the site as well in high because gamblers will also like to display manipulative skills on the casino just to earn some extra money aside the normal one, but if a casino site has a strong wall of resistance to an attack, it will be very difficult to succeed penetration on every attempted attack, this is thesame as what happens in real life, whereby we have invaders trying all means to launch evil but always abated by strong resistivity already in place.

[Fredomago]

In such case, who are the employed developers a casino must be on a look for, while the answer is simple, build a system from within to operate your network for you than employing the ones from outside that could cause alot of funny and e expected dramas at long run, the developers of a casino must be the ones in charge of their system themselves so as to avoid any sudden hack or change, but the need to maintain a rapid upgrade to their system and services rendered needed to be updated just for the benefits of gamblers provided they think less on the cost it might take them to do so

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.
because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Yes, we all trust that a platform can be responsible for all development, and the vulnerability that is at the expense of what may occur for various reasons that are alien or unknown to the casino, for this reason I think that currently it is more difficult than There are vulnerabilities, some vulnerabilities are because there may really be some kind of plot between workers inside the casino and others, for this it is better to find out all your staff and highlight what is convenient or not for the casino, a vulnerability of a casino can be in question a developer, since he is the one who owns the keys and codes of games, deposits and withdrawals.

Inside job can happen and I agree with the developers responsibilities with the system, they are the one who's holding the key information and vulnerabilities can be started on them, if they are not responsible from what they are doing or if they are not doing their job in securing the site/platform, though it's a case to case basis and it can't be generalized as hackers or those who can exploit the house are always everywhere, a single mistakes can cause a business to be ruined.

It's important as always to learn and understand every aspect that you needed to learn about the house and make sure that you are equipped with knowledge when using the services.

[michellee]

because a gambling site that already has a good reputation will definitely maintain the name of the company and will always improve security which should be done for the good of the future of the platform.

Well, they didn't went there just to waste the reputation that they've built from a long time. So, they have to do something like that for them to maintain their name and as well as the good reputation that they already have.

They will try to maintain their reputation by doing the best for their members. If their members can be satisfied with their service, they will have a good reputation among other casino sites and vice versa. So always checking regularly can help the casino be safe from all attacks that can harm their site. When it comes to reputation, the casino will also do whatever it takes to ensure that its reputation is maintained.

[tabas]

Well, they didn't went there just to waste the reputation that they've built from a long time. So, they have to do something like that for them to maintain their name and as well as the good reputation that they already have.

They will try to maintain their reputation by doing the best for their members. If their members can be satisfied with their service, they will have a good reputation among other casino sites and vice versa. So always checking regularly can help the casino be safe from all attacks that can harm their site. When it comes to reputation, the casino will also do whatever it takes to ensure that its reputation is maintained.

That's what they'll do. To protect their reputation, they'll do whatever it takes to avoid the ruckus what will be made against their casino. That's why these problems will be eliminated as much as they want to maintain their status as a good and well known reputed casino.
It's all on their budget to allot that thing to protect them so many of their members will stay to them and that's all about the business that they've established, they don't want it to be gone just because of some problems that has occurred that could ruin them.

[FanEagle]

but i firmly believe that some reputable platforms have a very professional development team to constantly improve the security of the platform from any hacking.

It should be like that at most times. I saw it from exchanges on how they professionally managed to handle a hacking incident and how they've made their users calm until they've improved their security.

That's because they were ready for it, cold storage is the invention of the century for bitcoin, if you put only a small amount of money on hot wallets and put most of the money on cold storage that means when your hot wallet gets emptied, then you still have a lot of money left, and if people want to withdraw from the hacking incident, then you will be able to pay either all of them or at least most of them and people will see that nothing big happened and that's fine deal.

I believe that any place that can find the right balance there would be able to find peace even against biggest of hacking attempts, since they will be ready for it when it happens.

[khaled0111]

Inside job can happen and I agree with the developers responsibilities with the system, they are the one who's holding the key information and vulnerabilities can be started on them, if they are not responsible from what they are doing or if they are not doing their job in securing the site/platform

I think we forgot to talk about one of the most dangerous attacks which is social engineering. Human are the weakest ring of the chain.
It doesn't matter how secure the casino servers or the platform codes are or how experienced the security team is if one of the staff can be easily manipulated or fooled. A casino can get hacked and customers funds stolen just because an unaware customer support agent clicked on a malicious link he got on a phishing email.
Security awareness training is as important as securing servers and vulnerability patching.

[michellee]

Well, they didn't went there just to waste the reputation that they've built from a long time. So, they have to do something like that for them to maintain their name and as well as the good reputation that they already have.

They will try to maintain their reputation by doing the best for their members. If their members can be satisfied with their service, they will have a good reputation among other casino sites and vice versa. So always checking regularly can help the casino be safe from all attacks that can harm their site. When it comes to reputation, the casino will also do whatever it takes to ensure that its reputation is maintained.

That's what they'll do. To protect their reputation, they'll do whatever it takes to avoid the ruckus what will be made against their casino. That's why these problems will be eliminated as much as they want to maintain their status as a good and well known reputed casino.
It's all on their budget to allot that thing to protect them so many of their members will stay to them and that's all about the business that they've established, they don't want it to be gone just because of some problems that has occurred that could ruin them.

So true. And they must have allocated some budget to protect it in case of unforeseen cases so they can resolve it properly. Reputation problems are something they really take good care of and always pay attention to their members who are experiencing them and try to help them until the problem is resolved properly. That is the basis of a casino wanting to develop its business to be better and bigger than before so it can enter the list of reputable and trusted casinos. This will be a special attraction for gamblers because gamblers want to have a casino like that.

[Fredomago]

Inside job can happen and I agree with the developers responsibilities with the system, they are the one who's holding the key information and vulnerabilities can be started on them, if they are not responsible from what they are doing or if they are not doing their job in securing the site/platform

I think we forgot to talk about one of the most dangerous attacks which is social engineering. Human are the weakest ring of the chain.
It doesn't matter how secure the casino servers or the platform codes are or how experienced the security team is if one of the staff can be easily manipulated or fooled. A casino can get hacked and customers funds stolen just because an unaware customer support agent clicked on a malicious link he got on a phishing email.
Security awareness training is as important as securing servers and vulnerability patching.

And not just for casino but it applies to all the companies/businesses. Hackers are also upgrading and improving they will use all the avenues that they can penetrate and a single mistake will cause a big problem to the company, though it's already been known by many companies and they are aware how this kind of mistake will harmed their business, providing proper trainings and extending levels of support from their firewalls chances for human mistake still the big concern.

The fact that business owners are really doing their best to make sure that they are fully aware of any consequences, and they are equipping their business with knowledge and good customer support, something that gives gamblers a little assurance to continue playing.

[Dunamisx]

Inside job can happen and I agree with the developers responsibilities with the system, they are the one who's holding the key information and vulnerabilities can be started on them

You remember that no one is perfect, we are all working towards our perfection in everything we do, they themselves can make mistakes, handle some sensitive information with their employees forgetting that they may leave at anytime, infact some of these employees are far better experienced than some of the casino developers.

if they are not responsible from what they are doing or if they are not doing their job in securing the site/platform

the thing is that they can't protect more than they could, some of the operators emoloyed are very smarter in terms of performing runs, that's why they preferred employing operators that can traceable.

though it's a case to case basis and it can't be generalized as hackers or those who can exploit the house are always everywhere, a single mistakes can cause a business to be ruined.

this is true, attacks exist in different forms, just as in the. case on a house, the casino gambling attack bring down the whole system into a costly ransom but prevention will always be better than cure in handling vulnerabilities that can make such happens.