[Ban Request] 1xbit signature spammer. Do you agree?

[_BlackStar]

I've heard a lot of good advice from forum contributors on the previous thread that no matter how bad a project or casino is promoted through a signature campaign the forum won't moderate it. It's forum culture not to moderate scams and we really have to respect that.

I have hardly found any 1xbit campaign participant which are high quality posters so far which indicates that the percentage of spam created by all these participant is much higher compared to other signature campaign participant. So now, any 1xbit spammer should be banned from using signature if the quality of their posts is just total trash and bullshit.

Choose one answer in the pool if you want to express support, not, or don't care.

Local rules for this thread:

• Any 1xbit participant is not allowed to post here, if they do then report it for deletion.

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[suchmoon]

As I said in the other thread, 1xbiters are spamming like crazy and most of them should have been banned already. There is no quality control whatsover - campaign manager obviously doesn't care about spam and they're all red-trusted (participants and manager). What's worse is that reporting those posts - besides being a waste of time - actually helps 1xbit save money because they don't pay the participants when enough posts get deleted to put them under 20 for the week. The only hope is that spammers may eventually stop spamming if they don't get paid for a few weeks but it's possible that others would take their place.

But at least everyone's busy - spammers, reporters, mods... Forget discussing Bitcoin, the real purpose of the forum is trying to protect scammer's feelings LOL.

[Coyster]

I understand that you prolly are concerned about how 1xbit signature participants go about their 'business' on the forum, either through advertising what's known to be a scam and also the poor quality of their posts, but one thing you must understand is that there are ways in which the forum operates, there have been worse trolls, low quality posters and users who are extremely dogmatic (they are most times not specifically on any signature campaign) and they have created BS posts on the forum, but no ban of any sort, and that's cause the forum somewhat advocates for freedom of speech, even when users override that liberty.

I think the only reason users have ever received signature ban is for plagiarism, prolly a user plagiarized but they are still useful users on the forum, they can be pardoned and not receive a permanent ban, but a ban excluding them from signature campaigns for a specified period of time, thus I'm afraid I don't think 1xbit participants would receive signature bans no matter how your poll goes, and even if I agree with you.

I believe every participant on that campaign has been tagged by a DT user, I'm afraid we might have to make do with that for a while as a deterrent of some sort, prolly until it becomes so unbearable that stricter measures has to the applied.

[Upgrade00]

So now, any 1xbit spammer should be banned from using signature if the quality of their posts is just total trash and bullshit.

Ideally, any user who constantly posts trash on the forum should eventually be banned permanently after warning bans.
I do not think there should be a special rule for participants of a signature campaign, up to a certain extent. There is a rule to users getting banned for spamming even though it is not being strictly followed.

Has 1xBit reached the extent to attract special attention from the admins? I will say Yes.
• It is an obvious scam site,
• It is running a spam campaign on the forum.

Any 1xbit participant is not allowed to post here, if they do then report it for deletion.

Such local rules cannot be enforced, IMO.

[suchmoon]

Such local rules cannot be enforced, IMO.

Any local rules rarely if ever get enforced in Meta but that's a whole other story. This rule by itself is not ambiguous or subjective or otherwise unenforceable if moderators chose to do so.

[BlackHatCoiner]

I agree. Kick those spammers outta here. Their posts are constantly reported with accurancy.

I have hardly found any 1xbit campaign participant which are high quality posters so far

I doubt there's one. It'd be justified if one needed desperately money and no other campaigns were open, which still doesn't make much sense as there are always better alternatives than this. 1xbit's name is tarnished; every person who's been using this forum for a while must have seen at least one accusation for it.

there have been worse trolls, low quality posters and users who are extremely dogmatic (they are most times not specifically on any signature campaign) and they have created BS posts on the forum, but no ban of any sort, and that's cause the forum somewhat advocates for freedom of speech, even when users override that liberty.

But, none told those trolls. I'm just saying they're responsible for the forum's garbage and that they're encouraged to continue.

It is an obvious scam site

Well, here's the problem: What's obvious is a matter of opinions and according to the rules, decisions aren't made that way.

[BITCOIN4X]

So far I can see you care enough about any of those campaigns regardless of whether all the participants are spammers or the site is a scam. But it's good that I voted (in favor/ YES) to prevent spamming to such a high level that many forum members are starting to care about it.

It doesn't matter how strong or weak you are now, but clearly now you have raised the flag of war with the participants of that campaign by making this request. I know this will encourage more quality posts from some people who might still care, but feel free to let us know if you get any bad threats from some of the participants.

[AB de Royse777]

I vote YES however this is not only for 1xbit participants but to all who are spamming the forum with low value posts. Rules had to be equal for all despite them (1xbit participants) being annoying.

I know this will encourage more quality posts from some people who might still care, but feel free to let us know if you get any bad threats from some of the participants.

Who? 1xbit participants? All of them are tagged red (if I am not entirely wrong). Having red tagged, a user actually do not care about their account. They are posting only to get paid. When they will have no signature to wear they will not make any post. Those who actually care about the forum are most of the time do not care if they have a signature they are wearing.

[GowithMi_GMAT]

"YES" I agree! I support you! 1xbit brought the plague!
most 1xbit participants don't care about the quality of their posts.  .I don't mean to go against the rules of the forum. but if this plague is still lingering then it can add to the bad image of the forum..

Here's participants previous list : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367756.msg58277118#msg58277118
So far no change to their post quality, ,still doing the same thing. spam!

[SmokerFace]

@_BlackStar - fuck off with your local rules, I answer to the forum's global rules.

by the time Mod deletes my post (if they suck on you), my message will be read.

Now let the man do the talking, not some merit hunting Gaystar

But at least everyone's busy - spammers, reporters, mods... Forget discussing Bitcoin, the real purpose of the forum is trying to protect scammer's feelings LOL.

Forget about discussing Bitcoin really ??

Not a single post you made in discussing Bitcoin stat for SuchNinja since you created that account, I wonder a lot of things honestly.

[LTU_btc]

I haven't checked all 1xbit participants and quality of their posts, but I'm not against your suggestion. It's true that you probably wont find high quality posters in 1xbit campaign, but maybe not everyone is bad enough to get signature ban. IMO, this question should be solved case by case and not simply disabling signatures for all participants.
For me 1xbit content doesn't look as bad as Yobit/Cryptotalk campaign. Or maybe I got wrong impression because number of participants is significantly smaller and their content isn't that visible.

Now let the man do the talking, not some merit hunting Gaystar

Gaystar. Seriously? I thought that only 12 year old kids are doing such things. When you have lack of arguments, ad hominen begins...

[SmokerFace]

ad hominen begins...

Check the poll result of OP's previous thread, they didn't get the result there so they think spamming the shit out of this forum by another thread will do the job.
people like op and suckmoon understand the language of "ad hominen" same as my father, against whom i filed a lawsuite recently.

he used to teach me girls are idiots and when i was with them telling them stuff he got mad - i spat some truth and he ran away to male cops, when i was leaving he was crying looking at me and what i did was flexed by black glasses, wore them and left the place, thank you 1xbit for 30$ glasses. 

[suchmoon]

For me 1xbit content doesn't look as bad as Yobit/Cryptotalk campaign. Or maybe I got wrong impression because number of participants is significantly smaller and their content isn't that visible.

Yobit paid per post for a large number (100?) of posts. 1xbit payment is flat rate for a minimum is 20 posts per week and if you look at the spreadsheet they are all trying to make 20-21-22 posts. So there's less spam in absolute numbers but they're clearly posting only to get paid and most of the posts are useless.

Please don't feed the trollface.

[KingsDen]

1. I didn't participate in the pool because the option that best describes my thought is not in the pool. There should be an option to follow forum rules.
2. Is there any rule stating the ban of spammers? If yes, it should be applied to all spammers whether 1xbit promoters or not.
3. In as much as your thread is not self moderated, your rule is unenforceable. Besides, you cannot make a rule for the moderators. I believe that if a 1xbit promoter makes a quality post under this thread, no moderator will delete it no matter how many times you report it.
4. I also believe that the problem we see in 1xbit promoters wouldn't have existed if they had a reputable manager. A manager like Hhampuz will always give a remark to the participants of the campaign he is managing, telling them to increase post quality, spread post etc. This will ensure that good posters are kept in the campaign.
5. But it seems that the manager(s) of 1xbit does not care. The forum should therefore have a rule to ban a manager who encourages or hires spammers in his campaign.
6. By this, the burden of moderation would be shifted to managers and spam would reduce.

[LoyceV]

I have hardly found any 1xbit campaign participant which are high quality posters so far which indicates that the percentage of spam created by all these participant is much higher compared to other signature campaign participant. So now, any 1xbit spammer should be banned from using signature if the quality of their posts is just total trash and bullshit.

It makes sense that decent users stay away from this campaign, so that only leaves shitposters who have nothing to lose. I don't think they will get banned just because of the signature they wear though. I also don't expect them to get a signature ban.

To get them a real ban, I think you'll have to build a case against each individual user. Back when Yobit was spamming, suchmoon made an overview of the number of posts per user. Such an overview could help here too, but it's a lot of work and I've seen users get away with many deleted posts.

[NeuroticFish]

Imho what should be banned would be the campaign(s) related to 1xbit if they generate that much spam.
Since (for my own sanity) I have ignored some of the boards with most spam, I cannot assess the amounts.

The users alone will probably not get banned, but no other signature campaign will probably accept them, so most will probably just give up.
And for the campaign itself there's already the precedent with Yobit.

[suchmoon]

To get them a real ban, I think you'll have to build a case against each individual user. Back when Yobit was spamming, suchmoon made an overview of the number of posts per user. Such an overview could help here too, but it's a lot of work and I've seen users get away with many deleted posts.

The yobit stats mostly helped yahoo to remove users from the campaign. I don't think mods looked into it. They get the post reports and delete those posts, so not sure what other case could be possibly built here.

[RapTarX]

As I said in the other thread, ban them if they are generating massive spam. Nevertheless, it's not only 1xBit users who are generating spam. There are more campaign participants here who are generating spam as well. Are you concerned about them or it's only 1xBit? I would say apply the same rule for everyone regardless of what they are promoting.

fuck off with your local rules, I answer to the forum's global rules.

Global rule has the rule of setting up local rule by OP.

[skarais]

I don't know if this poll will affect the number of 1xbit posters that are banned for spam or not but in general I think this poll can raise awareness of users to report spam posts, low quality posts and anything they consider off topic regardless of what campaign they are promoting.

I agree that spamming and low-quality posting should be something that all signature campaign participant should keep to a minimum. This shouldn't be limited to 1xbit campaign as there are many other campaigns whose posters can create dozens of spam every week which may be ignored (about this I agree with RapTarX). The merit system has encouraged more posters to post something quality, so maybe it will help them to care about the quality of their posts.

[SmokerFace]

As I said in the other thread, ban them if they are generating massive spam. Nevertheless, it's not only 1xBit users who are generating spam. There are more campaign participants here who are generating spam as well. Are you concerned about them or it's only 1xBit? I would say apply the same rule for everyone regardless of what they are promoting.

fuck off with your local rules, I answer to the forum's global rules.

Global rule has the rule of setting up local rule by OP.

Local rules for this thread:

• Any 1xbit participant is not allowed to post here, if they do then report it for deletion.

Sure, blocking out the perspective of someone they are opposing through [local rules] in the main section of the forum, maybe that's the reason self-moderated threads are not allowed in this section of the forum (am i wrong?)
what's the term called: dictatorship?

In any case, Moderator hasn't deleted my post yet...
moonstar: **pulling their hair out.