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February 24, 2022, 07:42:53 PM
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Those who benefit from war are countries that lend to war-torn countries.
and the countries that competed with the shattered nations for trade, and the nations that supplied arms and ammunition for war. If supplies are purchased from outside.
war is terrible and detrimental because war kills people, so it wastes not only the lives but also the future productivity of those people and war makes more people physically and emotionally scared, impacting not only themselves but also their families and etc.

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February 24, 2022, 11:59:43 PM
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I don't think anyone benefits from war, not even the government or journalists. The government also does not want to bear the risks that will be experienced such as the many victims of innocent people, the economy in war zones and others. Journalists are also concerned about the safety of the crew and several other factors. It might be arms dealers and war provocateurs who profit, but I'm not entirely sure.

If war is profitable, why don't all countries go to war instead? from there I think that war is not profitable at all.

And to consider that war is necessary if we, a country or a nation, are looted, oppressed, and deprived of honor by another country or group, then as a form of self-defense, war or battle is the best choice. In my personal opinion, if things are still negotiable, war is the worst option.

Many a good people, a good women and a good children will die as a result of this war. I'm feel sorry for the war that happened between ukraine and russia
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February 25, 2022, 12:31:33 AM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
The real gain is the gain of happiness of life not the money by publishing the contents on war or selling weapons. So no one gain in war but everyone lose in a war for their life. Everything should be solved via negotiation and in this negotiation if all the parties think to benefit every party then the negotiation will end with good results.

It is the peace in the world during which everyone gain profit financially, socially and with our lives.
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February 25, 2022, 12:51:27 AM
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Who gain's from War ?

The authorities in power, as it is always the people that suffers from it!

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February 25, 2022, 02:29:15 AM
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If you asked about who gains from war, the answer would be a weapon company that distributes the weapon to many countries, including for a country that orders a special weapon such as biological, hidden weapon to protect their country that does not know if that exists.
Maybe this article related to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_profiteering
I agree with @Danydee's saying that the authorities will be benefit from the situation.
But people will suffer, especially people who live in the war zone.
Media can also benefit as they serve lived news to their audience, increasing their rating.

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February 25, 2022, 07:12:30 AM
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Well, Russia for one are going to gain new territories and the Oil & Gas prices are going to go up..and we know Russia are producing the majority of the Oil and Gas for Europe.  Roll Eyes (So even if they are at war... people will have to pay more for Oil and Gas)

Then you have the manufacturers of the weapons and vehicles that are used in a war that would profit like crazy. the US reportedly donated to the Ukraine 13  x AN/TPQ-36 Firefinder and 20 newer AN/TQP-53 Quick Reaction counterbattery radars.

So the equipment and weapons and ammunition (missiles) manufacturers are having a royal time now, because these countries are buying like crazy to prepare for further conflict.  Roll Eyes

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February 25, 2022, 07:47:52 AM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
I believe that no countries will benefit the war, the war will result a damage and mass distruction, this isn't need to be done if there is another way of solving the conflict, many people will suffer from oil price and any other products that came from both side of the countries that involve the war, but for now it is already happing war is already started and all we can do now is to pray.

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February 25, 2022, 08:28:51 AM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
It's not journalists who benefit, but the place where journalists work that make a lot of money, they can spread good news every day about the conflict. The warring countries suffered heavy losses, buildings were destroyed, innocent people became victims, the economy was crippled and the government could not work safely.
Not only that, the war between Russia and Ukraine has had an impact on cryptocurrency investment instruments, traders and investors has also become victims, because bitcoin and other alternative coin began to fall freely after being hit by the issue of war.  Neither side benefited from the war because after the ceasefire the two countries suffered severe damage.

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February 25, 2022, 02:21:07 PM
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"If the war really does happen", what else do you really need aside from bombing of a nation and that nation sending bombs back? I mean missiles are fired everywhere on both sides right now, if that is not a war I do not know what is a war.

Do you really need people to fight with guns in their hands in a building or something to consider it a war? This is war, it is happening right now, and there are dozens of people died even on the first hour of it, the total will be in thousands easily. And there is no person who profits from it.

Putin is getting his own desires done, but he is not even gaining anything from it as well. Like he doesn't gain anything aside from being one thing he always wanted done, and he is 70 years old, he could do this a few more times before he dies, and that's it. In a fair election he would have been gone years ago, so it is really not that much profitable since he will rig the elections anyway so it i not about votes.

     There are actually several ways to define a war and each definition depends on one's personal perspective. But yes, I agree that it is indeed already a war. It's just that I wasn't able to get a hold of a credible news source at the moment of posting that post which you have quoted. I hope you don't start a war with me over it. lol, jokes. . jokes. .

     Now about you saying that no person profits from it, that my friend is something I do not agree with. I have already mentioned the ones that I think gains profit from wars. There are even several forum members that have mentioned who they think are the ones that profits from wars. Yes, on a wider perspective, the whole word loses regardless of which side dominates and wins this war but even so, you cannot deny that some don't care about it specifically those mentioned that gain profits from war(literal profits that fatten their pockets).

     Now for the rest of your statements, I find it really hard to put sense into them. Well, maybe you just got carried away with your emotions or something but yes, it's just messy or unrelated with the actual topic. And another thing, Putin definitely gains something from it. He wouldn't risk his name, reputation and legacy for some nonsense which is what you seem to be implying.

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February 25, 2022, 02:34:36 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
It's not journalists who benefit, but the place where journalists work that make a lot of money, they can spread good news every day about the conflict. The warring countries suffered heavy losses, buildings were destroyed, innocent people became victims, the economy was crippled and the government could not work safely.
Not only that, the war between Russia and Ukraine has had an impact on cryptocurrency investment instruments, traders and investors has also become victims, because bitcoin and other alternative coin began to fall freely after being hit by the issue of war.  Neither side benefited from the war because after the ceasefire the two countries suffered severe damage.
Destroying every city may be short, but getting it back to normal will of course take a long time. if this war spreads, the cryptocurrency news will also be even more bleak, considering that there will be many people who need money to buy food supplies, of course it can prolong their lives, so food will become like gold, because what is needed the most when things go bad occur

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February 25, 2022, 03:20:22 PM
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As for starting a war in peacetime like the emergency over Ukraine, I don't think the interests of both are preserved, at least in terms of image, diplomacy, economy.  Of course I don't like talking about political interests.  Even if the end result is a negotiation, most of the losses and casualties come with consequences for the world.  War between warlords - this scenario is also a lesson and the risk will be applied on other fronts such as China's role in Taiwan, the final outcome must be decided, etc.  Who no longer believes in America's position on vague commitments to Biden?  That's definitely a big question mark - will the world order change then
Either way, the fiat lord war will have to end and millions of innocent people will die.  Consequences are not necessarily accompanied by benefits.

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February 25, 2022, 04:19:30 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

Engaging in war simply implies both will loose but the truth is one loss will be incomparable to the other, meaning one will suffer a great loss/casualties, and the quest for engaging into war is for power rule. The people making money in this regard can be the journalist though that's their profession, Making news, the bloggers and the media entities. Also government too can make money from this because if they render you help then you make a pay back through some of your naturally embedded resources in return for them.

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February 25, 2022, 04:31:54 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.
War has always been a business, for example the Roman Empire maintained itself by going to war against other countries, stealing their riches, selling their people as slaves and then keeping the land for themselves, if Russia annex Ukraine then they will gain the riches of the land and as we know as our technology advances the more easily we can exploit the resources that exist in a territory, and as for the losers obviously that will include the Ukrainians but also the west allies that failed to prevent such a tragedy.
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February 25, 2022, 04:46:36 PM
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From the citizen's perspective, no one. Families ripped apart, economy takes a hit, and you essentially end up with destabilized countries that give way for power vacuums to form, which has been the case in the Middle East for years. On the other hand, the military industrial complex, rich private energy firms that might capitalize on new natural resources over any captured regions, all the rest, absolutely love going to war. The only profitable enterprises that gains from these wars are those that can get ahead of the game, meanwhile everyone else suffers.
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February 25, 2022, 05:09:41 PM
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Nobody gain from war to be honest, a war never beings any positive outcome rather it will dip a whole in the political, social and economic state of the countries involved, even those selling weapons may gain monetary value but the impact will be felt by every country, look at what is already happening in the stock and crypto market as a result of this war.
Going to war do more harm than good, and it sounds terrible when some people will be looking for how to profit from other people's misery.

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February 25, 2022, 05:12:46 PM
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Nobody gain from war to be honest, a war never beings any positive outcome rather it will dip a whole in the political, social and economic state of the countries involved, even those selling weapons may gain monetary value but the impact will be felt by every country, look at what is already happening in the stock and crypto market as a result of this war.
Going to war do more harm than good, and it sounds terrible when some people will be looking out to profit from other people's misery.

That really is not true. What do you think the boomer generation could buy houses with a job at a fast food restaurant? Because the USA did not suffer damages in their homeland and could give out very profitable loans to Europe to build back their infrastructure. For the Americans, war has very often been profitable. Whether that profit came as direct financial profit or political profit by installing governments that do whatever they want.

War is never right. But it is very profitable.

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February 25, 2022, 05:18:25 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

Arms dealers make a lot of money. Look at Lockheed Martin (LMT), when everything was going down to hell yesterday, these fuckers were going up. Now companies like LMT will make a killing by selling lots of lots of stuff to the Europeans because apparently they are not protected enough from a potential Russian invasion.

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February 25, 2022, 06:39:13 PM
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Nobody can have gains with wars on long run. Sometimes tyrants, mercenaries, black market dealers and sadistic people in general may think they are having some advantages through military conflicts, but just look what happened to these individuals previously through the world's story. It has never ended well for them. For a short period of time they achieve great deeds, profit and cause a lot of suffer and pain to their victims, but everything they cause to others, returns to themselves later. There is no gains on it at all. Greedy, egocentrism and wickedness always lead to ruin.

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February 25, 2022, 07:01:32 PM
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I'm right here, Argument with my mate about the current invasion by Russia in Ukraine.
He just told me countries make money from war, could it be the journalist alone ? Government who please, I'm juvenile at this.

No one. In a state of war, all countries that are involved suffer as it would deplete all the resources of such that would also create a turmoil and disrupt the world economy.

In a state of war, countries would have to invest into military infrastructure, manpower, and weapons. All of the resources that are supposed to be allotted to projects would be turned converted to military resources in order to at least save the country. The war between Russia and Ukraine would definitely suffer the global market as it would be a domino effect in a full-scale invasion.
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February 25, 2022, 07:12:03 PM
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It's not journalists who benefit, but the place where journalists work that make a lot of money, they can spread good news every day about the conflict. The warring countries suffered heavy losses, buildings were destroyed, innocent people became victims, the economy was crippled and the government could not work safely.
Not only that, the war between Russia and Ukraine has had an impact on cryptocurrency investment instruments, traders and investors has also become victims, because bitcoin and other alternative coin began to fall freely after being hit by the issue of war.  Neither side benefited from the war because after the ceasefire the two countries suffered severe damage.
Place where journalist work? But, there are still journalist on there and they can be among of the people that spread news so they earn as well but people living on those country are not blind and they know the true situation of their country because they can also see it. Journalist cant lie and say that there is a good news everyday because that is unbelievable when in fact there is a war that currently happens.

Cryptocurrency traders and investors are not a victim here but it was part of the market where prices can fall and its not only cause by the wars alone. Two countries might have damage but there must be one of them that at least won the battle. That can also be considered to as gain.

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