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August 08, 2022, 08:30:03 AM
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Instead of proposing such a useless thing, you better donate to Ukraine. The ban of russian casinos will make no difference to ukranian people
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August 08, 2022, 10:42:15 AM
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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

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August 08, 2022, 12:58:21 PM
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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

It's strange that even after so many months we are still discussing the same useless thing. The boycott of the russian gambling platforms will have no effect on the war tensions so instead of doing this and creating more tension, better to do things that may help stop this ongoing war.
There are humans who are suffering at both sides of the border and it would be better if some how these big powers care about humans.  Sad

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August 08, 2022, 01:04:09 PM
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Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
Casino owners are not affiliated with anyone so don't care about the impact of war tensions, even though other countries boycott Russian casinos but casino owners are trying to plan new strategies to increase the interest of new users from other countries, maybe local gamblers still join for their country's casinos because of other countries casinos requires KYC but Russian country users are blacklisted under the terms and conditions of some casinos.

It's strange that even after so many months we are still discussing the same useless thing. The boycott of the russian gambling platforms will have no effect on the war tensions so instead of doing this and creating more tension, better to do things that may help stop this ongoing war.
There are humans who are suffering at both sides of the border and it would be better if some how these big powers care about humans.  Sad

To me the only one suffering looks the Ukrainian country while Russia is there by fighting an unjustified war of invasion.The soldiers being killed from the Russians side are asking for it as they are going into war against another independent country and that is what you get when you go to war for no good reason.The fact that they,the Russians are not winning a war they planned to win in 3-4 days and has committed some of the worst atrocities the world has witnessed deserve to lose personnel everything single day.I am only sorry for Ukrainian lives lost while the Russians soldier can opt to not go to a stupid war like that yet they go and come back home with a coffin.The war does not seem to stop and even Ukrainian soldiers are saying that they think that most likely to recover lost territories they will need at least until the end of next year.

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August 08, 2022, 02:08:07 PM
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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

That's the main problem of any form of sanctions, how many countries will be part of it and are there loopholes to soften the impact of sanctions. If you ask Western countries now they will tell you that the sanctions are working very well and the Russian economy is collapsing. But what about the rest of the world? It seems that Russia is making new trade deals with India, Iran, China and some smaller countries. More sanctions also means to divide the world even further. I am against boycotting casinos just because they are being operated out of Russia. I wish there were negotiations again between Ukraine and Russia to end this war.
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August 08, 2022, 02:16:02 PM
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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.
Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.

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August 08, 2022, 07:31:55 PM
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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.

That's the main problem of any form of sanctions, how many countries will be part of it and are there loopholes to soften the impact of sanctions. If you ask Western countries now they will tell you that the sanctions are working very well and the Russian economy is collapsing. But what about the rest of the world? It seems that Russia is making new trade deals with India, Iran, China and some smaller countries. More sanctions also means to divide the world even further. I am against boycotting casinos just because they are being operated out of Russia. I wish there were negotiations again between Ukraine and Russia to end this war.
Boycotts can only work when there is union among another countries, so the excluded country won't have anyone to supply it. As we see it's not what is happening to Russia, since they have many allies and I suspect even inside western countries who openly imposed sanctions on them.

West will never confess Russia is still strong and sanctions aren't enough, because first of all the whole sanctions thing is a political propaganda to decrease the enemy's morale and create a confidence sentiment in our socities that Russia isn't a threat to the world.

To boycott russian casinos will have only moral impacts on those who choose doing this, so they can sleep with a clean conscience they aren't financing Putin's regime and war in anyways... Unfortunatelly, the biggest portion of the money which is being used to run the war machine isn't coming from this industry, so practical effects are almost zero.

About negotiations it seems not possible, because how do you negotiate with an enemy who isn't open to diplomacy and has as main and only goal the conquest of your territory? The only alternatives for Ukraine is to fight or resign...

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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.
Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.
Russia have got abundant resources, which might bring wealth to the country. We cannot connect sports with wealth making. Sports is to have a social relationship within countries. Through the war Russia have terminated itself from the rest of the world countries. Very few authorities have banned Russian players which is not fair. Slowly things will change, and most of the sportsman are against war.

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August 08, 2022, 08:45:33 PM
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Russia is Rising again as now they making their on Lobbies in the other countries as i can see now Russia is making the Central Trade HUB of Wheat/Fuel and Natural resources as more prominent in the Dominance of the wheat holds. Russia is already Capturing the Central Asia and connecting countries but here point is What is gonna impact of the Boycott. Do Russia cares about it. Yeah thats another thing their Casino owner do care.
Maybe Russia doesn't care about that because they seem to have started to control other countries because they have a lot of abundant resources. They are also trying to pressure other countries into doing what they want, which seems to be working because other countries depend on those resources. Casino owners don't seem to care about that either and some are still running their own casinos, regardless of the boycott or not. Although the boycott still continues, it does not impact the casino significantly because they can get more customers from other countries.
I think Russia doesn't care about these little things. There will be no impact on any such gambling platform. If they can properly utilize the amount of natural resources they have, they do not need any other sector. Moreover, those gamblers who are used to gambling there are actually gambling of that particular site. It has no effect on stopping the war so other issues should be discussed logically.
Russia have got abundant resources, which might bring wealth to the country. We cannot connect sports with wealth making. Sports is to have a social relationship within countries. Through the war Russia have terminated itself from the rest of the world countries. Very few authorities have banned Russian players which is not fair. Slowly things will change, and most of the sportsman are against war.
Even what things does other countries would be trying to do even cutting off ties and other related as long your are Russian but it wont really be enough reason for them to stop the war.If we do tend to look the

duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.

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August 09, 2022, 04:10:35 AM
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duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.
I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not

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duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.
I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not
You know that there are things which so to be called as ethical basing up on the situation or crisis then usually it would really be ending up on considering those sanctions yet this do mainly shows about supporting

against on the said country but its true that on every decisions that be made then there's always a corresponding con's into that and we've seen that one and it did really affect that oil/gas supply

specially into those neighboring countries but there's nothing we can do if majority of countries will really be making such decisions.

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August 11, 2022, 02:02:59 AM
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Lately I have been seeing that the Russian attacks have been more incessant and that they have not respected any of the agreements, so if they do not comply, because Russia blames Ukraine and Ukraine blames Russia, what do they want to achieve? end the world? I think that the boycott would not do much, it would only end the business of the Russians, but would it fix this war? If the boycott worked to end the war, then let it be, otherwise I don't see any use for it, what do you think?

It is a decision that each person needs to take, when it comes to a business decision we may think that all what matters are the profits but most of the time that is not the case, if you like or feel more identified towards a company then you will prefer to spend your money there than doing so in another company despite having better prices.

This is similar, many people do not agree with the aggressive posture of the Russian government and we also do not have the means to stop the war, so what to do? You can do nothing but some people have elected to show support for Ukrainian products while boycotting those which come from Russia, it is a natural reaction and even if it does not fix anything people are free to take whichever choice they think it is best for them.
Yes, I understand, but then we will give our support to all products that are of Ukrainian origin, I live in Ecuador and it is very difficult for things to arrive from Ukraine or Russia, what comes the most is from the USA, I don't know how I could do to help the Ukrainian people, I am sure that many people where I am in Quito would be very pleased to help too, there are some Bitcoin addresses to deposit, but there must be other ways.

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Yes, I understand, but then we will give our support to all products that are of Ukrainian origin, I live in Ecuador and it is very difficult for things to arrive from Ukraine or Russia, what comes the most is from the USA, I don't know how I could do to help the Ukrainian people, I am sure that many people where I am in Quito would be very pleased to help too, there are some Bitcoin addresses to deposit, but there must be other ways.

the world has seen that no sanction has worked for the Russia and it is not easy to put the Russia down
So better stop thinking about putting more sanctions on Russia and move on!

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duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.
I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not
It's true that the sanctions imposed by governments to Russia are causing a great deal of trouble, I think that is undeniable, but it is also true that you cannot force people to have business relationships with others which disagree completely with their worldview.

I really think that the government of Russia believed that they could get away with this war without suffering that much, as they believed that they could win the war very rapidly and they also underestimated the reactions from other governments against their actions, and now the rest of the people that has nothing to do with the conflict has to suffer huge consequences because of them as well.

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August 13, 2022, 07:56:04 PM
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Yes, I understand, but then we will give our support to all products that are of Ukrainian origin, I live in Ecuador and it is very difficult for things to arrive from Ukraine or Russia, what comes the most is from the USA, I don't know how I could do to help the Ukrainian people, I am sure that many people where I am in Quito would be very pleased to help too, there are some Bitcoin addresses to deposit, but there must be other ways.

the world has seen that no sanction has worked for the Russia and it is not easy to put the Russia down
So better stop thinking about putting more sanctions on Russia and move on!
The Russian also has and of sanctioning those countries that are sanctioning them. They have place a ban on Europe on exporting gas to them and now there is big problem because the winter is coming and there is need to gases that will be very important for households basis and for companies too. I still don't see any reason of bringing the sanction on gambling site that reside in Russia or that are maintained or owns by Russians.

Europe is dependent on Russia's energy, so despite the sanctions, Russia has held its own position strongly. If Europe cannot arrange energy supply from alternative countries, Russia's influence will remain in Europe. Russia's economy is not dependent on gambling revenue, so other major sanctions have not stopped Russia so far. So boycotting this gambling website may not have any major impact on Russia. So gamblers can boycott if they want but it will not cause much economic damage to Russia.

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August 13, 2022, 09:01:34 PM
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duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.
I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not
It's true that the sanctions imposed by governments to Russia are causing a great deal of trouble, I think that is undeniable, but it is also true that you cannot force people to have business relationships with others which disagree completely with their worldview.

I really think that the government of Russia believed that they could get away with this war without suffering that much, as they believed that they could win the war very rapidly and they also underestimated the reactions from other governments against their actions, and now the rest of the people that has nothing to do with the conflict has to suffer huge consequences because of them as well.

It's really a shame that this war happened in the first place because the people of the Ukraine have been suffering for so long, and it would have been better if it didn't happened at all. So, I'm glad that so many countries and so many people started pushing back against Russia for this war and I wish that they continue to push them back so that they have no choice but to pull out from the Ukraine, but of course that is easier said then done.

The Russian government is really strong and it's really just because of the fact that they have Putin and his ability to control people and to make them believe whatever he wants them to believe that they've become so powerful over all these years that they have no choice but to play the game the way he wants them to play.

Yes, that the sanctions imposed to Russia are causing a great deal of trouble to their economy. They also have a huge trade deficit with other countries such as the USA, and many other countries in EU as well. But, we're really not seeing any results from these economic sanctions because of Putin's abilities to make people believe whatever he wants them to believe. It will probably take a long time until the economic and political consequences become too great for Russia to continue to do what it's doing.

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August 13, 2022, 11:58:33 PM
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duration or on how this war been lasting which is unknown and does simply proves out that they are powerful enough on sustaining this one despite on lots of sanctions and cutting off ties which it didnt really

make some significant effect although we cant say that it doesnt have any effect but they are still continuing on what they are doing as long they dont able to achieve their goal which is
sad because lots of innocent lives had been affected.
I was not in favor of sanctions and I always mentioned in my previous comments that it will bring in more harm than any good.
See - EU is in so much trouble and USA is rushing to Saudia for oil and gas support - where are their trouble heading too? They have placed themselves in so much trouble not
It's true that the sanctions imposed by governments to Russia are causing a great deal of trouble, I think that is undeniable, but it is also true that you cannot force people to have business relationships with others which disagree completely with their worldview.

I really think that the government of Russia believed that they could get away with this war without suffering that much, as they believed that they could win the war very rapidly and they also underestimated the reactions from other governments against their actions, and now the rest of the people that has nothing to do with the conflict has to suffer huge consequences because of them as well.

It's really a shame that this war happened in the first place because the people of the Ukraine have been suffering for so long, and it would have been better if it didn't happened at all. So, I'm glad that so many countries and so many people started pushing back against Russia for this war and I wish that they continue to push them back so that they have no choice but to pull out from the Ukraine, but of course that is easier said then done.

The Russian government is really strong and it's really just because of the fact that they have Putin and his ability to control people and to make them believe whatever he wants them to believe that they've become so powerful over all these years that they have no choice but to play the game the way he wants them to play.

Yes, that the sanctions imposed to Russia are causing a great deal of trouble to their economy. They also have a huge trade deficit with other countries such as the USA, and many other countries in EU as well. But, we're really not seeing any results from these economic sanctions because of Putin's abilities to make people believe whatever he wants them to believe. It will probably take a long time until the economic and political consequences become too great for Russia to continue to do what it's doing.

It did really make some trouble but not really  that great which would really in result that they do able to sustain despite of these sanctions which does proves out on how powerful Russia is.

Surprisingly the war is still going on but turns out that this crisis is getting more get used too or being in silence but still they are moving.Boycotting wont really be changing a thing.

It might really be able to at least show off some support against Russian but not really that enough on stopping this war and lets just wait on how things would be ending up or would be going.

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I have been reading carefully all the things that each of the members say, and they are very good arguments, they have very good information that they handle.

The boycott of the Russians has been going on for a long time, in sports the boycott was something terrible, but everything that has been done and that demon of Putin is still attacking, I think that that is not the detention measure, it has to be another way.

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August 17, 2022, 02:33:05 PM
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I have been reading carefully all the things that each of the members say, and they are very good arguments, they have very good information that they handle.

The boycott of the Russians has been going on for a long time, in sports the boycott was something terrible, but everything that has been done and that demon of Putin is still attacking, I think that that is not the detention measure, it has to be another way.


There’s always another way and one of them is to stop Putin and the parliament that supporting his act. Nothing is working because they still have funds and they are prepared for a long war unlike Ukraine that didn’t see this coming at all. Actually boycotting Russian product and businesses is the best solution to end this quickly if everyone is willing to cooperate but since they have alliances like China which still showing support economically and some people that don’t see the act value, Putin just have a continuous supply with less damage economically since they are still doing business in other country.

It just change the route of there goods but still it being sold and convert into profit. This will never ends unless someone stop Putin or Ukraine will give up the fight. There’s no other way to stop this because this war will no never go that far if there is other way than one of the country wave the white flag.

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August 17, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
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I have been reading carefully all the things that each of the members say, and they are very good arguments, they have very good information that they handle.

The boycott of the Russians has been going on for a long time, in sports the boycott was something terrible, but everything that has been done and that demon of Putin is still attacking, I think that that is not the detention measure, it has to be another way.


There’s always another way and one of them is to stop Putin and the parliament that supporting his act. Nothing is working because they still have funds and they are prepared for a long war unlike Ukraine that didn’t see this coming at all. Actually boycotting Russian product and businesses is the best solution to end this quickly if everyone is willing to cooperate but since they have alliances like China which still showing support economically and some people that don’t see the act value, Putin just have a continuous supply with less damage economically since they are still doing business in other country.

It just change the route of there goods but still it being sold and convert into profit. This will never ends unless someone stop Putin or Ukraine will give up the fight. There’s no other way to stop this because this war will no never go that far if there is other way than one of the country wave the white flag.

I think they wouldn't stop the war and no one will surrender. Even sanctions and boycotting don't help because Russia seems to prepare even if the war would take longer. I think the only thing that could help is to stop Putin from intervening and he should advise Ukraine to just quit the fight but I guess that's quite impossible to happen. It seems like Putin likes what is happening since he benefits from this war. It's only heartbreaking that innocent people have to suffer.
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