Would you support a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms?

[FatFork]

Of course it's unfair.
All these sites are opened by ordinary people who simply have the ability to entrepreneurial activities and who have knowledge and skills in the IT field. Most of these sites have international devs teams, and by boycotting them you should understand that you are insulting international teams, which is generally wrong, but I’m generally disgusted.

Can you give me an example of a gambling website that operates from Russia and is run by ordinary people with entrepreneurial skills, as you say?

It's absurd to compare Russia with the rest of the free world. Russian legislation on gambling is extremely strict, and I believe that only a small number of platforms have gambling licenses there. With the exception of illegal, anonymous, online casinos, the vast majority of Russian casinos are associated with high-profile, wealthy individuals with strong political ties.

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[Mauser]

Are you sure about that? According to online sources, 1XBET, and its subsidiaries, were founded by Russian billionaire Roman Semiokhin, Dmitry Kazorin, and Sergey Karshkov. Karshkov has government connections, having once worked for the Regional Ministry of Internal Affairs. Besides, It is well known that the oligarchs brought Putin to power, and that today he controls the oligarchs and, together, they control and exploit the criminal world to their mutual advantage.

edit: If you are interested in learning more about this topic, I suggest reading "The Vory: Russia's Super Mafia" by Mark Galeotti

Thanks for this, I wasn't aware that the Russian online casinos are being owned by billionaires. You are right that probably most of the Russian oligarch have strong connections to the governments. As such boycotting the casinos will be another pressure point for the billionaires of losing money. That is also why many of the oligarchs are included personally in the sanctions against Russia. Increasing the pressure on their personal wealth is the strategy, so that they in return crease pressure on Putin to end the war. We shouldn't forget however, that there are normal people working on these casinos and boycotting them could lead to bankruptcy of the casinos. I am sure the average citizen in Russia doesn't want the war and for them losing their jobs is also a bad thing on top of economic downturn.

[Wiwo]

Well to some extent the Russian citizens are not supporting the war according to the news so why then ban them, the war is political. Not as if Russia is at war with Ukraine but the military who are controlled by the government is involved in the war. I don't believe any civilian Russian citizen has carried arms to support the ongoing war. I may have a different opinion on the call to boycott Russian Businesses unless the one that has a direct connection with the government.

[swogerino]

Well to some extent the Russian citizens are not supporting the war according to the news so why then ban them, the war is political. Not as if Russia is at war with Ukraine but the military who are controlled by the government is involved in the war. I don't believe any civilian Russian citizen has carried arms to support the ongoing war. I may have a different opinion on the call to boycott Russian Businesses unless the one that has a direct connection with the government.

That is the problem in Russia,there is no free media at first and of course the businesses are independent,at least they look so but let me take you an industry which they are heavily relied on to make money which is the grain,mainly wheat exports where Russia has been the nr 1 exporter in the world for the last couple of years,before it was the US.The government imposed tax on exports making the price of 1 ton go more the same amount as the tax was,so if the price of 1 ton was 300 USD and the tax was 80 USD,the price got to 380 USD,what I want to say with this that the government can interfere with any business there that they see fit.

I am neutral at this but from what I have seen at Linkedin,mostly European connections working in the IT area were posting a lot of posts with this meaning "To all the Russians and Belarussians out there,you won't get ANY business from us at all,ever",most of such connections are in Germany but I think it shows where it is going.Unfortunately the citizens have already started to see the consequences of the war which president of US,Biden said will be felt even more as the time passes.

[Wiwo]

I am neutral at this but from what I have seen at Linkedin,mostly European connections working in the IT area were posting a lot of posts with this meaning "To all the Russians and Belarussians out there,you won't get ANY business from us at all,ever",most of such connections are in Germany but I think it shows where it is going.Unfortunately the citizens have already started to see the consequences of the war which president of US,Biden said will be felt even more as the time passes.

Sometimes I stop to wonder if Russia President Putin ever stop to consider the many negative impacts of this war on the Russian economy both the public and the private sectors, this devastating incident have shattered away what took the whole Russian Federation many years to build and I know things may not get back to normal again ever.

[xSkylarx]

I am neutral at this but from what I have seen at Linkedin,mostly European connections working in the IT area were posting a lot of posts with this meaning "To all the Russians and Belarussians out there,you won't get ANY business from us at all,ever",most of such connections are in Germany but I think it shows where it is going.Unfortunately the citizens have already started to see the consequences of the war which president of US,Biden said will be felt even more as the time passes.

Sometimes I stop to wonder if Russia President Putin ever stop to consider the many negative impacts of this war on the Russian economy both the public and the private sectors, this devastating incident have shattered away what took the whole Russian Federation many years to build and I know things may not get back to normal again ever.

I am not an expert on this, but I believe that Putin did not consider the economic consequences of his actions; he believes that the other country will go to war, as evidenced by the sending of troops, tanks, and other military equipment, rather than economic sanctions. At first, I thought that economic sanctions would have little effect on them or that they would be insignificant, but in the long run, I could see that Russia is struggling, which is a good thing because if all of the countries send troops, I am confident that a nuclear war will erupt.

[rodskee]

Anything that currently finances the Russian state, which can effectively be considered all businesses in Russia and operating out of Russia for the state or for Russian investors/Businessmen can be and should be considered Russian state funds. Remember, Russia is NOT a democracy. The people have no rights, no freedom and certainly no vote. If Russian state decides they need your money, then thats their money now.

So in short, yes I would boycott Russian gambling platforms as well.

Indeed mate,  those who supports this war must be Boycott and Banned , they are not for freedom but for territorial claims in which same as what China is Doing now.

Ukraine is a peaceful country and has been in  the development before this invasion , so We will support all the movement towards hating what Russian is doing now.

Boycott the Gambling sites so please to all those concern , Put all the russian gambling that operates and advertised here in forum.

[noormcs5]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

The two casinos mentioned by you are already scam and no one should play there.
Also i am sure that due to war situation, it's highly possible that the physical casinos may either close or may fave very less attendance.
I can't say that we should boycott the online russian casinos or not. Its not that only russia is starting the war, the Ukraine are equally responsible for intensify the overall situation.

[BitcoinAccepted]

I can't say that we should boycott the online russian casinos or not. Its not that only russia is starting the war, the Ukraine are equally responsible for intensify the overall situation.

Physical casinos in Russia can still operate since they are not the one that is being destroyed their country was the one destroying others but they would likely have less players due to the sanctions given by the other countries. Also, I am not sure if you know what you are saying but could you please tell why would the Ukraine is equally responsible to overall situation? Do they start the war? Do they threatened the Russia? as far as I know they are just planning to join the NATO?

[delfastTions]

Of course it's unfair.
All these sites are opened by ordinary people who simply have the ability to entrepreneurial activities and who have knowledge and skills in the IT field. Most of these sites have international devs teams, and by boycotting them you should understand that you are insulting international teams, which is generally wrong, but I’m generally disgusted.

Can you give me an example of a gambling website that operates from Russia and is run by ordinary people with entrepreneurial skills, as you say?

It's absurd to compare Russia with the rest of the free world. Russian legislation on gambling is extremely strict, and I believe that only a small number of platforms have gambling licenses there. With the exception of illegal, anonymous, online casinos, the vast majority of Russian casinos are associated with high-profile, wealthy individuals with strong political ties.

Here is an example for you:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.msg59399509#msg59399509

In continuation of the discussion, I would like to note that not only Russia is the largest supplier of wheat in the world. Ukraine also had a large share of the wheat market last year. And it is not known how the sowing campaign will go in Ukraine and whether there will be a corresponding harvest? So all this threatens with a shortage of bread on world markets.

So the issue with the Russian casino owners who are proposed to be boycotted here is generally nonsense, not a question.
Don't get hysterical about this.

[bitcasinorank]

Thanks for bringing this topic up!
I have created a list that will be updated regularly

Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms

[saxydev]

What about a boycott of USA companies for invading Iraq and the arab spring? What about boycott for ukranians companies because they attacked Donetsk and they don't give the people their right to self determination? What about banning Spain companies because they don't let Catalunia as a independent country!? What about a boycott for France for what happens in Mali!? What about a boycott for China because of the Tibet? What about a boycott for India and Pakistan because of the Kashmir conflicts?

[FatFork]

Of course it's unfair.
All these sites are opened by ordinary people who simply have the ability to entrepreneurial activities and who have knowledge and skills in the IT field. Most of these sites have international devs teams, and by boycotting them you should understand that you are insulting international teams, which is generally wrong, but I’m generally disgusted.

Can you give me an example of a gambling website that operates from Russia and is run by ordinary people with entrepreneurial skills, as you say?

It's absurd to compare Russia with the rest of the free world. Russian legislation on gambling is extremely strict, and I believe that only a small number of platforms have gambling licenses there. With the exception of illegal, anonymous, online casinos, the vast majority of Russian casinos are associated with high-profile, wealthy individuals with strong political ties.

Here is an example for you:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387589.msg59399509#msg59399509

Thank you. 1XBET is exactly the type of casino I had in mind.

Here's an article you may find interesting. So I find it absurd that you consider Russian billionaire Roman Semiokhin or notorious Artur and Vadim Mildov, who are on Interpol's watch lists for their ties to organized crime, and/or the Russian mafia, ordinary people who simply have entrepreneurial abilities.

Don't get hysterical about this.

You have nothing to worry about. I won't.

[Wiwo]

I am neutral at this but from what I have seen at Linkedin,mostly European connections working in the IT area were posting a lot of posts with this meaning "To all the Russians and Belarussians out there,you won't get ANY business from us at all,ever",most of such connections are in Germany but I think it shows where it is going.Unfortunately the citizens have already started to see the consequences of the war which president of US,Biden said will be felt even more as time passes.

Sometimes I stop to wonder if Russia President Putin ever stop to consider the many negative impacts of this war on the Russian economy both the public and the private sectors, this devastating incident have shattered away what took the whole Russian Federation many years to build and I know things may not get back to normal again ever.

I am not an expert on this, but I believe that Putin did not consider the economic consequences of his actions; he believes that the other country will go to war, as evidenced by the sending of troops, tanks, and other military equipment, rather than economic sanctions. At first, I thought that economic sanctions would have little effect on them or that they would be insignificant, but in the long run, I could see that Russia is struggling, which is a good thing because if all of the countries send troops, I am confident that a nuclear war will erupt.

Exactly and to say that Russia President Putin is still seeing this whole scenario as a game of power show have thrown Russia into an unexpected economic crisis which will take them a long time to rebuild the extent of the damage caused by this Ukraine invasion can not be measured now but until the war is over. I hope Putin will not put Russia in a self-destruction mode.

[UmerIdrees]

Boycott gambling sites won't have any effect on Russia. Swift stops operation in russia, and the whole western world is in a mood to boycott russia, in these times gambling sites means nothing at all.

What are we achieving from this WAR?

This is not the war between Russia and Ukraine, it is more of a war between Russia and USA & alliances named as West. Ukraine is just used as a puppet and unfortunately, innocent Ukrainian people are paying the price for the war they never went in it, at the first place. The beneficial of this war is the US but I am confident that USA stands no chance of winning against Russia.

Just remember this time Russia, China and Pakistan will give a strong answer to USA. This time is different.  

[pawanjain]

Of course it's unfair.
All these sites are opened by ordinary people who simply have the ability to entrepreneurial activities and who have knowledge and skills in the IT field. Most of these sites have international devs teams, and by boycotting them you should understand that you are insulting international teams, which is generally wrong, but I’m generally disgusted.

Can you give me an example of a gambling website that operates from Russia and is run by ordinary people with entrepreneurial skills, as you say?

It's absurd to compare Russia with the rest of the free world. Russian legislation on gambling is extremely strict, and I believe that only a small number of platforms have gambling licenses there. With the exception of illegal, anonymous, online casinos, the vast majority of Russian casinos are associated with high-profile, wealthy individuals with strong political ties.

But that's again imposed by the government on the citizens who operate a gambling casino.
Almost all the people operating gambling casino would be ordinary people not having any direct relationships with the government of Russia.
I wonder how boycotting Russian gambling sites would benefit Ukraine or anybody else.

[Theones]

Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?

We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?

I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.

I don't really think it would be a nice idea to boycott the gambling platforms that are owned by Russian people because after all, not every Russian wants war. Perhaps there's only a very small population that wants their country and Ukraine to have a conflict because it either amuses them or the possibility of war happening in a long period of time will benefit them. And with this being said, maybe these people are the elites that won't be hurt as much if we boycott anything related to Russia. I believe we must think of this thoroughly first before coming to a decision because boycotting can affect so many people that are innocent and are also struggling to survive.

Its not really nice knowing that there are innocent people will be hit on this sanction but its one of the best thing to do temporarily since it could make realize the russian government that they are badly hit with those sanctions impose at them and for sure there business sector will badly react towards this implementation.

I will show my support on this and will revoke this decision once we see Russian government and troops stop this war and comeback on their country peacefully

The crypto currency of Russia is sinking and stock market too. I am following @Mykhailo Fedorov, the vice prime minister of Ukraine and minister of Digital transformation. He is not coming easy. He has played his part and wrote to major companies to block Russian from major IT industries and suppliers.
Ukraine will now come easy. Russia made a wrong move!

[MMA]

Well to some extent the Russian citizens are not supporting the war according to the news so why then ban them, the war is political. Not as if Russia is at war with Ukraine but the military who are controlled by the government is involved in the war. I don't believe any civilian Russian citizen has carried arms to support the ongoing war. I may have a different opinion on the call to boycott Russian Businesses unless the one that has a direct connection with the government.

A big confect is there between the Russian people and their government. Their government arrested a number of people because they were protested against their government and wants them to stop the war again Ukrain. therefore we should protest and do boycott against their government and not against their innocents people.

[macson]

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A big confect is there between the Russian people and their government. Their government arrested a number of people because they were protested against their government and wants them to stop the war again Ukrain. therefore we should protest and do boycott against their government and not against their innocent people.

source: https://twitter.com/JoePompliano/status/1499092815569109004

above is an open letter from Abramovich to chelsea saying to hand over the chelsea loan money from him personally > to ukraine.  Abramovich is an example of a boycott by the UK government, it must have really hurt him because his love for Chelsea had to be broken because of the war.  The Russian government is the cause of war, their citizens are affected, i think it's very excessive ^{(by boycotting the product and people coming from Russia)}

[Wiwo]

above is an open letter from Abramovich to chelsea saying to hand over the chelsea loan money from him> to Ukraine.  Abramovich is an example of a boycott by the UK government, it must have hurt him because his love for Chelsea had to be broken because of the war.  The Russian government is the cause of war, their citizens are affected, I think it's very excessive ^{(by boycotting the product and people coming from Russia)}

Ops can you add a link to the source of the screenshot you shared thank you. Back to the discussion.
Moscow Ukraine invasion to a far extent is not a war but genocide, as the Russian President is using military weapons to destroy key infrastructure in Ukraine and a lot of civilians casualties, have been recorded over the past one week since the invasion started, the Russian people have been in solidarity with Ukraine but their government seems to have lost control and are overzealous to go to war because of the nuclear and military powers the excess display of such power without following due process will attract penalties from the international court of justice.