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February 27, 2022, 09:19:25 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
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February 27, 2022, 09:24:47 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
If we plan to boycott everything out of Russia, then it'll surely make some impact on Russia's economy. Same time we need to think, afterall these are all businesses owned by Russians. Only a small population of Russians are into making war whereas the majority are against the war and are protesting against the government. So, what we do could affect everyone for the mistake from a small group.
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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL
Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.
What are we achieving from this WAR?
PS: This is not an statement in favor of 1xBET and 1xBit . These scammers should not be existed in the first place.
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February 27, 2022, 09:43:05 PM |
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The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL
Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.
What are we achieving from this WAR?
PS: This is not an statement in favor of 1xBET and 1xBit . These scammers should not be existed in the first place.
Well said. I would boycott those scam casinos instead. I don't know any other Russian-based casinos but it's not all about boycotting that's everything with them. What if those legitimate and good casinos that are based from there are just the typical businesses that would surely be hit and affected if such a plan had been executed. Well, I'm not a technical expert on this but there really are a lot of consequences that will happen.
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February 27, 2022, 09:47:48 PM |
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1xBet and 1xBit already consider here as a scam site, so technically gamblers are not into this platform well at least those who are here in the forum, they can’t fool people here.
Boycotting something from Russia is fine as long as you believe that they deserve it, though I’m not into Russian gambling site since its very rare to hear good projects from them but if ever, I’m willing to boycott it even if I’m not a big time gambler because I know it can still affect them.
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Yogee
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February 27, 2022, 09:53:28 PM |
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Not a blanket boycott. That's extremely harsh on the citizens. I don't play on 1xbit or 1xbet not because it's owned by Russians but because of the unresolved scam accusations. The way everyone is sanctioning things in Russia, it seems there are no one living in Russia that the 144.1 million people are not human LOL
Imagine from the point of a Russian Civilian who is not supporting the war in Ukraine, who wants peace dialog and want to see the brotherhood between these two county. But just because he is a Russian now he can not visit an EU county or in a state of America , he can not have assets in these regions, he can not conduct any business at all, his assets are being seized . He has no right in those countries. Or may be he is in any of these countries living for long time. From now on his life will be a harder. The Russian military is killing innocent civilians but the rest of the word is making Russian civilians life a misery.
What are we achieving from this WAR?
I don't know but these unnecessary bans on businesses or platforms owned by Russians looks like a hostage situation to me. They want the citizens to turn against their Government and force them to stop the attacks.
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February 27, 2022, 09:57:05 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
I might say no to this considering some facts which other members have already stated here, not everyone in Russia is actually in support of the war against Ukraine, and several of this people have there private livelihood which is their businesses. @Op, now, imagine yourself a Russian who owns a business and you are fully not on support of fight against Ukraine, Infact, you've left your business for many days to protest against the war, but only for you to come back and discover your business has been boycotted by the international community because of something you know nothing about, imagine the heartbreak you did feel. So, honestly, I don't think this is good idea, it can only work if we know the Russian citizens who are in support of the war, then we can easily pick out those ones and boycott every of their business and if possible, make life miserable for them in our own little ways, but doing this generally, to me would be a big mistake.
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February 27, 2022, 10:00:58 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
I don't think they should be included its Putin administration and not the citizen's decision to wage a war on Ukraine they should not be part of our hate, in fact, many Russians are protesting Putin's decision and on 1XBIT and 1XBET even if they are not Russian owned I don't think I will play here because of what they are doing to their players they are proven, scammers.
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February 27, 2022, 10:03:25 PM |
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One one hand yes, because we all want to show solidarity. On the other hand no, because these people did not have any influence over Putin's decisions. Even soldiers who are fighting now had little to say. Many were tricked and thought they were going out to train near the border and then one day the order came to cross it and go deeper into Ukraine. What could they do? Jump out of a moving tank saying I'm not going?
I feel like we should boycott all companies related to the Russian State. All their politicians, news outlets, banks, airlines, but not people who want to make a living and could be against this war.
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February 27, 2022, 10:08:48 PM |
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Facebook, Pornhub, and Google are supporting Ukraine and they are making it hard for their Russian clients to access use the ads but it's not Putin's government that will benefit from using their service it's the private citizen, these are after all citizens that don't have a say on what Putin is doing right now, in fact, many Russians are against it and are protesting the ongoing aggressions. I don't have an account on a known Russian gambling platform, and I don't think I can play on 1XBIT it's risky playing there.
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February 27, 2022, 10:26:26 PM |
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In general, I understand what the majority of people here are saying. There is no doubt that civilians or Russian businesses are not directly responsible for any of this, and I am certainly not one who would say that. Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole. We can debate who brought Putin to power and who can take him down, but it doesn't matter at this point.
In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?
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February 27, 2022, 10:37:42 PM |
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In general, I understand what the majority of people here are saying. There is no doubt that civilians or Russian businesses are not directly responsible for any of this, and I am certainly not one who would say that. Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole. We can debate who brought Putin to power and who can take him down, but it doesn't matter at this point.
In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?
Imagine what would happen if we started going this way. If you had a friend who is Russian, would you stop talking to him? If you had an employee who comes from Russia, would you fire him? I hate what's being done and Putin should be put in prison or killed for ordering this massacre along with Lavrov, Peskov and the rest of his lap dogs, but Putin does not represent every single Russian. If you have the means to stop it, like Russian parliament, and don't do it, you are responsible for these deaths. If you can't stop it, like 90% of citizens, you shouldn't be ostracized.
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February 27, 2022, 10:46:37 PM |
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Boycotting it forever well no since business owners is not the main responsible on the current chaos happening in Ukraine, but for meantime yes I will join the call towards giving sanctions on them and that is the only thing I can do since we don't have power to do other things and somehow it can make their leader think that they are not totally winning since they are slowly crumpled by getting more sanctions which can make their economy at more riskier situation.
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February 27, 2022, 10:51:31 PM |
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... . Yet virtually every country in the world is imposing sanctions against Russia as a whole.
It's their chosen position but why would I need to follow? In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair? Let me get this straight. You want every Russian citizens to suffer as well because the people of Ukraine are suffering as a result of this conflict? Is that what you see as fair?
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February 27, 2022, 10:52:43 PM |
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1xBet and 1xBit already consider here as a scam site, so technically gamblers are not into this platform well at least those who are here in the forum, they can’t fool people here.
Boycotting something from Russia is fine as long as you believe that they deserve it, though I’m not into Russian gambling site since its very rare to hear good projects from them but if ever, I’m willing to boycott it even if I’m not a big time gambler because I know it can still affect them.
that is very right! even without this war, those 2 sites are not very welcome in this forum. a lot of players here are avoiding those sites anyway. i don't know other russian casinos here. but if the site is reputable and they are russian-owned, it depends on your stance here. because most of these russian people are against with putin. so i don't think it is fair if people will boycott it just because of their president's behaviour.
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
such a choice can really make things better in the world? What is the point of such initiative? this will change something or just hurting business of some individual (that maybe he don't support any type of war or aggression?) Personally I don't think that such type of action have any sense since you're not targeting who made decisions or a government but just someone that run a business.
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1xBet and 1xBit already consider here as a scam site, so technically gamblers are not into this platform well at least those who are here in the forum, they can’t fool people here.
Boycotting something from Russia is fine as long as you believe that they deserve it, though I’m not into Russian gambling site since its very rare to hear good projects from them but if ever, I’m willing to boycott it even if I’m not a big time gambler because I know it can still affect them.
that is very right! even without this war, those 2 sites are not very welcome in this forum. a lot of players here are avoiding those sites anyway. i don't know other russian casinos here. but if the site is reputable and they are russian-owned, it depends on your stance here. because most of these russian people are against with putin. so i don't think it is fair if people will boycott it just because of their president's behaviour. Russian peoples are enough suffering, even before the start of this conflict, from all the international sanctions targeting Russia!
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February 27, 2022, 11:07:24 PM |
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I am not a huge fan of boycotting and would most likely not participate in this too. I am not trying to discourage you or be negative but our community is too small to have any impact on their economy. if you want to have any sort of impact you'd better look for more platforms that would support your cause. In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?
are you saying that the Russian citizen should suffer too because the Ukrainian citizen does? What are we achieving from this WAR?
death and suffering for the civilians.
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February 27, 2022, 11:20:06 PM |
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I am not a huge fan of boycotting and would most likely not participate in this too. I am not trying to discourage you or be negative but our community is too small to have any impact on their economy. if you want to have any sort of impact you'd better look for more platforms that would support your cause. In truth, war stinks and the citizens of Ukraine are not responsible either, and yet they will suffer the most. Is that fair?
are you saying that the Russian citizen should suffer too because the Ukrainian citizen does? What are we achieving from this WAR?
death and suffering for the civilians. Most of the Russian industries are also suffering because of this war and they definitely don't like what is happening to their country. You can't blame this situation to them because it is Putin's doing this. Putin doesn't want Ukraine to be part of NATO, which, in fact, Ukraine can decide this on their own. He can't accept that the former SU is going to be an ally of US and other EU countries. More wasted deaths will be expected if Putin will not stop his aggression.
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February 27, 2022, 11:50:14 PM |
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Considering the current events in Ukraine and the open aggression from Russia, what are your thoughts on the collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms in support of Ukraine?
We know that 1xBET and 1xBit are owned by Russians. Do you know any more? Could we make a list of all Russian-owned casinos?
I'd love to support an initiative to help Ukraine! I think it would be great if we all raised our voices together and supported it.
such a choice can really make things better in the world? What is the point of such initiative? this will change something or just hurting business of some individual (that maybe he don't support any type of war or aggression?) Personally I don't think that such type of action have any sense since you're not targeting who made decisions or a government but just someone that run a business. Maybe some Ukranian people might also be benefitting out of the businesses owned by the Russians. So, boycotting isn't a good decision. I don't know how effective this works, but in the past there were more ways to pressurise governments to stop war. Nowadays this isn't possible as countries mutually benefit. Something like signing petitions can be done and this is also just a try and no big changes gonna happen out of it.
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