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March 08, 2022, 11:12:17 AM
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Russia had advanced to the second round of qualifiers and they were supposed to play against Poland on March 24,

It wouldn't be sensible to have Russia play vs Poland with current events occurring.  Will they exclude all fans from the match and all possibility of violence off the pitch, its too much of an obvious fight that will occur between people drinking with high tensions ongoing.    Its obviously a failure but its better to exclude Russia until they have stopped their invasion, destruction and killing of random people in a sovereign nation, in this case its a neighbor of the nation they will play and they have bombed just a few miles away from Poland.
  Sometimes news and events will preclude the possibility of sport, nothing to celebrate about it but it couldnt be any other way imo

That made sense, other than considering it as a sole sanction.
This should also be something to consider, because this will cause an unexpected chaos that'll broaden the tension between 2 countries.
This war has affected so many lives particularly for the both Russia and Ukraine.

Russian bettors also gets affected as their favourite team won't be able to continue playing. So that means they'll need to opt to a different team, which might be less comfortable to put a bet for them.
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March 08, 2022, 11:42:02 AM
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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.
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March 08, 2022, 12:42:27 PM
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"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.

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March 08, 2022, 12:57:53 PM
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"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.

Well, apparently they will simply have no other choice, unless they are paid in dollars, as before. To be honest, the legionnaires who play in the Russian Premier League are not the best. Few of the top players were ready to go to Russia before, now probably no one will go at all. Russian clubs have not shone in cup competitions anyway, and now it is not clear what will happen.
The only plus is that children's schools will be developed so that local pupils will perform.

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March 08, 2022, 03:58:52 PM
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"Following the escalation of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which has led to an ongoing and distressing humanitarian crisis, the Bureau of the FIFA Council has decided – in coordination with UEFA and after consultation with various stakeholders – to temporarily amend the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (RSTP) in order to provide legal certainty and clarity on a number of matters." More info here: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-adopts-temporary-employment-and-registration-rules-to-address-several

I believe that many foreign players from the Russian league will take advantage of the opportunity to change their employer.

Well, apparently they will simply have no other choice, unless they are paid in dollars, as before. To be honest, the legionnaires who play in the Russian Premier League are not the best. Few of the top players were ready to go to Russia before, now probably no one will go at all. Russian clubs have not shone in cup competitions anyway, and now it is not clear what will happen.
The only plus is that children's schools will be developed so that local pupils will perform.

Of course, with this, foreign players think again about being there because indeed their future will indirectly be threatened if they decide to stay.
maybe this will be filled again by local players and this will make it more difficult for them to compete in any case. not mean to belittle but with the gathering of local players it will be very difficult to adapt football from other countries which makes this very difficult

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March 08, 2022, 06:49:45 PM
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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.

The sanctions over Russia have greatly impacted them, but the ego has made them continue the war. A very small population is supporting the war whereas the majority of the Russians are against war. For now instead of banning Russian players from every games it is good to ban Russia from hosting different sports events.

Sports is part of peace making organization, so restricting players from Russia might have positive as well as negative impacts. On the positive note, Russia can think of peace. On the negative note, Russian players miss World level sporting opportunities.

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March 08, 2022, 06:55:50 PM
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All measures taken have a major impact, but Putin does not want to budge. Apparently it doesn't matter much to him that everyone with Russian nationality is now being duped. Because it is now a sanction against Russian people, not against Russia. It should already be clear that Putin doesn't care much about what measures are taken, he will continue to the end. On the other hand, a diplomatic solution seemed impossible, it is a difficult story. You should actually sit somewhere in the middle, banning everything and everyone seems to me more fighting evil with evil and not the solution.

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March 08, 2022, 08:43:51 PM
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Yeah, it's sad that they're in lining it with their political stand but it's all about war and that's too much already. There's no problem if it's just a normal politics that's happening inside Russia.
But, it has included and destroyed a lot of facilities, buildings and lives inside Ukraine and that's why they're making this stand. Although in generalizing Russians, not all of them are agreeing with this war.
Being russian doesnt mean that you would always agree on what your government had been doing specially into this war on which lots had been disagreeing for this stuff and now that they are facing
lots of sanctions then it is really affecting their lives at the moment and just speaking for wasted human lives then this is something not everybody would really agree upon.
Almost all of industries would really be giving out the same decisions on this current condition.
It's the same for other race. The government and its leader doing its thing while many of its constituents are disagreeing with what they're seeing.
We're all for peace and we can't do anything that much with it because we're just citizens that are following orders of the government and we can feel the Russian peace keeping people. Whether it's for the sports, football and any other sporting events, they all want peace but they're divided because of what the government is being done to Ukraine and its people.
There's no exemption actually yet these decisions could really be also done on particular the same scenario or situation no matter what country is involved with.They would really be still having on the
same input and decision to be made on time like this which its true that there's nothing we can do but to abide with those laws or rules been set out or else you do know on what would happen.
If they do make out such decision then it would be final and it would really be just changed up if everything goes fine again.

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March 08, 2022, 08:50:44 PM
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I don't know. I don't support Russia but I find these actions absurd. There are millions of people in Russia who are against the war. Punishment method is very wrong. Putting an embargo on sports and art does not justify anyone. All of this must end as soon as possible. Peace for all.

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Of course everyone thought that such sanctions would make Putin think, but nothing is worth less. Doesn't seem to care about it, not impressed. You can only tackle such things by directly addressing Putin, for example that he can no longer access his money. Now many Russian clubs and athletes have been duped, while there is nothing they can do about it and probably a large part of them will not even support Putin's regime. But they can't speak out for fear of reprisals.

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March 08, 2022, 09:01:42 PM
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The country that started this war is Russia. Of course, there would be sanctions in some way, but I don't think football teams played a role in this. I think they could have continued the tournament. However, if there were teams with statements that could defend the war, they could have been eliminated. I have a lot of Russian friends who do not approve of Putin's war decision.
But on the other hand, isn't this something that is unfair in terms of sportsmanship? What I mean is that when it comes to restricting Russian athletes, doesn't this still apply to Ukraine because of course both sides at war even if Russia started the Invasion cannot be justified but with this kind of thing Ukraine also did nothing wrong?
Example. When there are 2 soccer players fighting on the field, of course, the referee will give a card, either yellow or red, to two players and this of course can still apply to both parties, not just one.

Considering that Ukraine is defending itself, this is not unfair. In fact, Russia unfairly declared war on Ukraine. In this case, this sanction was to punish Russia. I'm sure UEFA and Fifa know that the Russian teams are not at fault. We cannot think in the same way as the penalty given to both teams. Russia shows that it is not considering these sanctions at the moment. Even if there are no sanctions for the Ukrainian teams, I don't think they can concentrate on football.

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March 08, 2022, 09:28:55 PM
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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
The sanctions that western countries continue to impose on Russia have not stopped the Russian government from carrying out their attacks on Ukraine, in my opinion, what the world sports organizations are implementing against Russia will also not have much effect on their political decisions, indeed in this case many athletes are disadvantaged and should world organizations sport should be able to take decisions that are neutral and not detrimental to the athletes, maybe in my opinion instead of banning Russian athletes from competing, wouldn't it be better to impose sanctions banning Russia from hosting every world sporting event held in the future, applying total sanctions to this athlete who has no connection at all to politics is clearly destroying the basic principles that have had the sport so far.

They probably knew all of this before they implemented those sanctions and they still did it, so it is unlikely they are going to change their mind once they made their decision public, after all if they decided to reverse their decision at this moment then the ones that will receive a massive backlash will be themselves, for taking a stance and then by not being able to maintain it, so I doubt we will see any change on their policies any time soon.
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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.

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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.
After the sanctions the economy of Russia has indeed gone down in a significant way, however once Russia becomes more stable and gets all the territory of Ukraine integrated in their territory then those sanctions are going to mean little for them.

After all even if a new round of sanctions is implemented they are not going to cause the same impact as the ones we already saw, as it is common sense to think the US used their most powerful sanctions from the very beginning of the conflict and now their economic weapons left on their arsenal will be small and will never have the same impact.
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The economy of Russia will soon collapse because of this sanctions though its sad because sports are being dragged into this kind of politics, I feel sorry to those athletes who spend their life for the sports. Well the only one to blame here are the Russian government and ordinary people have to deal with this. Russia is not giving up, they still threatening other countries and looks like he is willing to go all out on this war.
I think is not true about Russia economic collapse soon after have several country try to banned Russia, exactly right now oil have pump price above increase 46%. But what happening with economic situation is not apply on football competition where FIFA and UEFA have suspended Russia from all football competition, I think need ask apology how to give access back for Russia can play on World Cup play off against with Poland on 28th March, I think FIFA never have ideas for Banned some countries participating on football competition.
You would really expecting something like this kind of decision on which if you do see that everyone do make out some sanctions or cutting off ties then its expected that politics would also takes place when it comes to this.

Not surprising that they would really be making out decisions on what we are currently seeing as of this moment.It wont really be giving out bad impressions towards their decision because
this is where everyone is really been doing so it wouldnt really be getting much attention or issues.

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March 09, 2022, 11:45:12 PM
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^ I dont know if this has already been posted it here but it is a bit scary and I am worried when President Putin says this.
( "Don’t you dare enter military affairs, stick to football. Russia will play at Qatar 2022 FIFA World Cup or there will be no World Cup to talk about.”)
https://twitter.com/babra_williams/status/1500072304478408704
There is a lot of Tweet on Twitter and I will not drop more links here just research your own. How does anyone think on this is FIFA will continue because of what Putin said?
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It's the same for other race. The government and its leader doing its thing while many of its constituents are disagreeing with what they're seeing.
We're all for peace and we can't do anything that much with it because we're just citizens that are following orders of the government and we can feel the Russian peace keeping people. Whether it's for the sports, football and any other sporting events, they all want peace but they're divided because of what the government is being done to Ukraine and its people.
There's no exemption actually yet these decisions could really be also done on particular the same scenario or situation no matter what country is involved with.They would really be still having on the
same input and decision to be made on time like this which its true that there's nothing we can do but to abide with those laws or rules been set out or else you do know on what would happen.
If they do make out such decision then it would be final and it would really be just changed up if everything goes fine again.
I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.
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I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.

The war is not going to end anytime soon, and so the sanctions will remain in place for a few more years at least. And we all know the nature of Putin. He is a very strong leader and he's least bothered about the sports sanctions. As long as the crude oil and natural gas prices remain at historic high levels, he is not going to be worried. The irony is that Putin is actually benefiting from the sanctions, as he is getting more $$$ from his crude oil and gas exports. And regarding the FIFA world cup, the chances that Russia would qualify was very low anyway.

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With regard to these sanctions, I have seen that some Russian soccer players have hardly spoken, this is because there have been so many deaths of civilians and children that this makes it very tight, in fact there is a Colombian soccer player who was given permission to leave Russia and get to Colombia and until something is fixed about that problem or the war, well, he goes back there, apart from soccer, some people who want to leave Russia also have to do a lot of things to get permission, at it seems that both sport and other activities have been completely paralyzed, I don't know how good it is for some athletes worldwide this will affect them in their careers, because who would they represent? they would have to give up their Russian nationality and represent another country.

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March 10, 2022, 11:42:14 AM
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I'm just hoping that someday when this war is done and Ukraine and Russia has agreed to stop this war, all of these suspensions would be gone and through sports, everyone is going to be reunited again.
There's some good news that I've read lately that Ukraine has stopped its interest of joining NATO which is why Russia is aggressing on them. But they've signed to be part of Europe.

The war is not going to end anytime soon, and so the sanctions will remain in place for a few more years at least. And we all know the nature of Putin. He is a very strong leader and he's least bothered about the sports sanctions. As long as the crude oil and natural gas prices remain at historic high levels, he is not going to be worried. The irony is that Putin is actually benefiting from the sanctions, as he is getting more $$$ from his crude oil and gas exports. And regarding the FIFA world cup, the chances that Russia would qualify was very low anyway.
Yeah, we know that it won't be ending soon but it's also not bad to hope that it will be ending soon. Well, there's still some exposure and money from these sporting events that would go in for Russia but yeah, he's bit least afraid of it.
Another thing about the crude oil, it seems that the countries that are importing oil are the ones having the sanction due to its price hike.
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