FIFA and UEFA has suspended Russian Football teams.

[alegotardo]

Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

[Sithara007]

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Goes against their own principles as well. The Western press is claiming that this is Putin's war and the ordinary Russian people remain opposed to it. If that is the case, then how can they justify the suspension of Russia from the FIFA world cup (and similar actions taken by other sports bodies)? With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished. Good news for Putin. He will just play it to his own advantage and garner even more support from inside Russia.

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Maybe that's why so many people suffer because of the war. On the one side, people want to find security in continuing their lives, but on the other hand, they are afraid that their assets will be taken by their government.

The last time I read news in the local media about Roman Abramovich trying to escape to Israel at Tel Aviv Airport moments before flying to Turkey. Abramovich, who also holds Israeli and Portuguese citizenship, was among seven Russian billionaires added to Britain's sanctions list on Thursday to isolate President Vladimir Putin over Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

[Polkeins]

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Goes against their own principles as well. The Western press is claiming that this is Putin's war and the ordinary Russian people remain opposed to it. If that is the case, then how can they justify the suspension of Russia from the FIFA world cup (and similar actions taken by other sports bodies)? With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished. Good news for Putin. He will just play it to his own advantage and garner even more support from inside Russia.

I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.

[KTChampions]

I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.


By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

[og kush420]

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.


By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.

[Maus0728]

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

With these actions, they are indirectly saying that ordinary Russian people are responsible for the war and they should be punished.

Those decisions aren't really pertaining to such ideology that they are responsible' on the war. You cannot just continue accepting/giving entertainment to those countries that are in midst of war, you'll just end yourself in the middle on that war - from media and countries asking why as they also cut their ties with Russia (only those who doesn't really want to get involved). I think its just too bad to think that this is a matter of 'whos being held responsible'. It's just a normal thing that even at any war, normal citizens would always be stereotyped or pulled back by the war/issues.


Remember the time covid hits worldwide? Many on media had hatred on Chinese people and even all of the normal citizens are issued/criticized by the stereotype. it's a war that we cannot see. But also the normal people that suffered from the judgmental minds.

[Fortify]

Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.

[Mahanton]

Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.

Wont blame if you do have that kind of impression and treatment on overall on which as if these fellas does have options if they do tend to go against it? For sure even they do reside on a particular
country doesnt mean that they would really be loving to see other people die just because their leader had made out such step on whatever purpose he do have in mind.
Some sanctions are just right and some are not specially about exclusions because they are russians or something like that but well there's no stopping now.

[alegotardo]

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.

I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.

[Sithara007]

I'm not Russian, but I was still shocked by your generalization.

We cannot blame every Russian citizen for Putin's consequences, Russian people cannot change their country in the same way they change the football team they support.

Remember that many Russian people who protested against Putin were arrested, and this is the main reason many people remain neutral, but that doesn't mean they agree.

Being an Indian, I would say that it is wrong to blame Russia alone in this case. Russia did what any other country would do in self-defense. The endless expansion of NATO is the main trigger here. How would the Americans feel if Russia sets up missile bases across the border at Tijuana? From what I have seen, the vast majority of people in my country support Russia. Ukrainians made the mistake when they elected a clown as their president. Their soldiers are using civilians as human shield, and then complaining that the Russians are bombing residential areas.

[TopT3ns]

Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.

[Strongkored]

Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.

If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

[Razmirraz]

Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.

If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

Like it or not, Russia must accept the harsh reality (absence in the world cup) due to sanctions from FIFA and UEFA. Not only Russia which failed to compete in the prestigious event, Spartak Moscow was also affected by the sanctions from FIFA and UEFA. This Russian club failed to play a match with RB Leipzig in the Europa League, as a result RB Leipzig was considered to automatically qualify for the round of 8.
Sanctions from FIFA and UEFA are like killing the careers of Russian football players, not only the Russian national team is banned from competition, Russian clubs are also prohibited from playing any matches under the auspices of FIFA and UEFA.

[uneng]

Anyone heard about the news on Chelsea owner (Roman Abramovich)? In this case, I am going to support the decision from UEFA and FIFA. They have removed the oligarch from the ownership and prohibited the sale of his share. I have also heard that the British government is considering to sell assets of oligarchs including Abramovich and use the proceedings for charity. In the long term, this will benefit the ordinary Russians as well. Corrupt oligarchs will be afraid to move their money out of Russia as a result of this.

I think we all understand what they are trying to do but at least in principle I cannot agree with that, after all I am part of this market and I believe on the principles behind bitcoin which allows you to be your own bank and doesn't allow for any third party to steal your money or your property with a few clicks as part of how the system is designed, so while I think it is fair to suspend some athletes or teams from international competitions this is just plain stealing.

Indeed,
We need to remember that many people who have nothing to do with this war are being harmed by the sanctions that are being imposed.

If even for those who are to blame for this war, we can say that they are being robbed... then what about those who lost their financial freedom without having any guilt in this war?

Bitcoin is a completely neutral monetary system in any situation, amazing how there are still people who don't see it and bet on it.

What a load of garbage. Every Russian is accountable for the mass murder that their army is committing in Ukraine as we speak. They were never threatened by this country, Putin is just choosing to be a bully and pick on a country because it's people will not bow down to him. Only a tiny fraction of Russian's are protesting against this, the silent majority sits in fear but they are accomplices and many of them agree with the brainwashing propaganda that pollutes their mind. There was never any need for a single Russian soldier to enter this country, so the amount of sympathy for the worldwide backlash and sanctions should be zero. The negotiations are a joke because Putin has no desire to end this tragedy.

But what can individuals do against the government, especially a tough one like this? To make opposition against the government there must be organization and it seems it's impossible in Russia, because always someone becomes critical regards the local system while gaining popularity, this person is misteriously poisoned and dies... This way common citizens are by themselves, there isn't unity.
On the other hand, it's inevitable the civilized world sees Russia in the worse manner as possible at this time, including their citizens. Anyway, don't let the anger take control of your heart. Generalizations don't correspond to the real facts.

[Cling18]

Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.

If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

It's really frustrating that even the Russian football team still has to suffer and face the sanctions because of this war. As for me, there's no way for them to play and compete in this year's playoff because there are already lots of complications. Though they don't deserve this, I believe that things like this still have to happen but we can't deny the fact that the Russian team has always been a big challenger.

[KTChampions]

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.


By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

But Russia will recover - I am sure all the section are temporary and they will end once the war is over. Russia is a super power. They are unstoppable and they know how to keep allies united. I am amazed how the world has reacted for the first time against war. Have that had happened earlier when other counties were calling for help. This horrible situation would have avoided.

  Are you trolling?
Naturally, sooner or later everything will work out, but I'm not at all sure that we will see the restoration of the Russian championship. For example, now no one is surprised that the championship of Yugoslavia or Czechoslovakia is not on the calendar of events. The same can happen with the championship of Russia.

[goldkingcoiner]

Remember when people acted like this towards Arabs after 9/11? Or Japanese-Americans being put into internment camps in the USA in 1942 because of their ancestry? How many times are we going to act like Germany in 1940s everytime something bad happens in the world? What is it with this incessant need for having someone to blame?

This is obviously a politically motivated move to save themselves from bad PR. This has nothing to do with sanctioning Russia or stopping military funds from causing further damage in Ukraine. What do I think? I think its ridiculous. At what point are we going to start putting Russians in camps? Maybe lets start marking Russian-owned businesses in foreign countries with a painted sickel and hammer?

Are the Russian football players killing people, supporting the invasion or funneling funds towards the military? No. I am no friend of Putin's but we need to call out discrimination when we see it.

FIFA and UEFA should be ashamed.

[dbc23]

Two weeks later will held world cup play off and Russia still not get good respond with suspended by FIFA and UEFA exactly will give free way to Poland pass to next stage without have against with Russia. I think still have any possibility because world cup play off first leg held on 28th March and maybe have little chance for unsuspend Russian national country, but if can't get chance Russia will be most disappointed because they have success lead to play off round and have little close way pass to world cup qatar.

If the sanctions were withdrawn, their opponents in this play off had already said refused to play against them, this would be next hot issue.
Pity the Russian players who are also affected by the choice of the leader. It looks like Russia will absolutely not be playing for the world cup qualifiers meaning there is no chance for Russia to compete in the world cup.

It's really frustrating that even the Russian football team still has to suffer and face the sanctions because of this war. As for me, there's no way for them to play and compete in this year's playoff because there are already lots of complications. Though they don't deserve this, I believe that things like this still have to happen but we can't deny the fact that the Russian team has always been a big challenger.

It's sad a full nation have to pay in a hard sanction currency over a decision made by a single dictator . My biggest fear is that the sanctions by both FIFA and UEFA shouldn't escalate the war beyond Ukraine boarders. But even if they were allowed to participate their stars might be at risk too. At some point the sanction is important but the aftermath might be some thing that could be worrisome 

[Polkeins]

I am glad that not all people advocate the exclusion of the national football team and, as a result, the punishment of ordinary people. It's good that many people understand that games for ordinary people are banned. If there is a desire to ban something and somehow influence, then it is necessary not to exclude the national team, but not to allow money to be exported from Russia to banks and Europe and not to allow Russian oligarchs to buy villas and superyachts in Europe. These are much more effective sanctions.

One does not cancel the other. Now all sanctions will be applied, both fair and unfair, effective and ineffective. This is a signal to Russia and the world that such actions as Russia arranged by starting a war with Ukraine are unacceptable in the modern world.


By the way, I read local sports news (Russian) and watch a huge stream of players who, using the permission of FIFA and UEFA to terminate contracts with Russian clubs unilaterally, leave Russia en masse. It seems that club football in Russia in just one season will roll back 20-30 years and subsequently return to a normal level will be incredibly difficult.

The Russian Championship in this case is not a pity, everything was there on the money of the state, when the state in fact sponsored unprofitable clubs. And it would be fine if they played normally, like Manchester City or PSG, but no. In this case, individual people close to the leadership simply enriched themselves and international players  left as mercenaries should because of the threat of non-payment of wages. However, they are quite understandable.