Join a collective boycott of all Russian gambling platforms

[Cookdata]

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

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[Taskford]

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

They know how they can create impact to the world that's why their government is so confident about their action towards Ukraine and look what happen to gas price now its sky rocketing and if this war continue for sure the influence of Russia will dominate this and maybe we can see the inflation rate of many countries will became more higher because the gas price is so high and uncontrollable at the moment. I do hope those sanctions will not create another huge conflict between other country so that we will see this war ends.

[DoublerHunter]

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You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

They know how they can create impact to the world that's why their government is so confident about their action towards Ukraine and look what happen to gas price now its sky rocketing and if this war continue for sure the influence of Russia will dominate this and maybe we can see the inflation rate of many countries will became more higher because the gas price is so high and uncontrollable at the moment. I do hope those sanctions will not create another huge conflict between other country so that we will see this war ends.

^ It is now getting worst, they cut down their global internet access.
This should not happen if the Russian president is not a selfish leader, look at their citizens now it suffered from this decision that they even don't like or don't know. It is becoming expected that the economy get worst and worst when the war will continue and Putin will not lower his pride. People, there should boycott against this leadership, everything has been affected, businesses like the gambling industry and the entire economic growth on each country.

[paxmao]

I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

[CaVO32]

I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.

[mm2543363580]

I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.

I am at least at ease that world started speaking up. Already there was so much chaos in Palestine, Syera, Iqra, Kashmir, Afghanistan. But Since it was never the interest of EU and the world. No One spoke about it. No one even thought that there are human beings dying there as well. These Muslim countries  have seen so much deaths and blood shed that they won't be able to survive a normal life if they have managed to save themselves from the war.

[mak013]

I am at least at ease that world started speaking up. Already there was so much chaos in Palestine, Syera, Iqra, Kashmir, Afghanistan. But Since it was never the interest of EU and the world. No One spoke about it. No one even thought that there are human beings dying there as well. These Muslim countries  have seen so much deaths and blood shed that they won't be able to survive a normal life if they have managed to save themselves from the war.

No one cares about it. And no one will talk about it. And no one will talk about american biolaboratories located in Ukraine and no one says about american biological weapons research in Ukraine. Only bad russians are always bad.
PS. How much american gambling sites were boycotted after Iraq? Who said smth about civilian killed by american in Afghanistan? It does not matter, americans are not russians.

[TopTort777]

I'm not sure that's a good move since all those companies have nothing to do with the russian army and the russian government and even if all are really russian.

I think the idea of boycotting Russian gambling platforms was to decrease income tax Russian Federal Reserve get. It would be logical, if all the taxes from gambling would got on military needs. But is not how real situation is.

I am not even sure, that all the casinos from the list on first page are registered on Russian territory. Maybe only part of them are. While the other is registered somewhere on Malta, BVI or Belize for example.

It would be fair to boycott national or state companies. But right now OP call to boycott random Russian gambling platform owners, random people.

Why not then boycott Russians famous vodka Stolichnaya? Russians do like vodka after all. But wait, Stolichnaya belongs to Stoli Group USA, LLC, New York, NY.

And this is the problem with those ‘sanctions’, as you have stated it is fine to sanction the government of Russia or the politicians at the very top which are directly responsible of the horrible events we are witnessing at Ukraine, but a random Russian person or business does not have much to do with the war at all and maybe they are even against it in principle, so something like this is simply too much in my opinion.

"Sanctions here, sanctions there, sanctions everywhere". Do they really help? Do they have any effect now ? Yes, now, because later it will be an effect on Russia, but the war needs to be stopped now, not later.

Our country has proposed sanctions and is trying to replace Russian gas. Yes, we are showing those Russian how bad they are, we will force them to stop, they will suffer from sanctions. But will they really do? So far I see how petrol price gained 10 cents every 12/24 hours. It cost 60 euro to fill full tank in January, it cost 100 euro to do the same now. Even though we had gas reserve, today I have received February utility bill with corrected heating column; +50 euro. I usually spend 50-70 euro to buy food for whole week. Two days ago I have refused to buy several goods, and had left +100 in the store.

2 weeks of war and sanctions against Russia, but my wallet suffered 150 euro loss. As if I am punishing myself. Same will be with boycotting their gambling platforms. We boycott them, and other platforms will get our money. If this is like that, is that boycott really that necessary?

[ethereumhunter]

I am very glad that I am not on a campaign for any of those platforms, if I have any proof that anything I am doing helps Putin waging his war I would immediately stop it. And this is a very good idea, listing the sites that are Russian owned and that could potentially be paying taxes that help a war of aggression. Betting is about fun, and having that type of result is anything but.

I guess, we won't know the extent of how these casinos are tied-up to the Russian government. Even if it is Russian-owned, are they legally under the jurisdiction of Russia? Some are licensed via Curacao Gaming License. So how are they paying taxes to the Russian government? Some are indeed identified as Russian-owned but usually they are virtually licensed somewhere like Estonia or Costa Rica or Curacao. Anyway, it is really up to the preference of the player here. We have our own take on this matter.

I think it's still hard to do because even if the gambling site is in Russia and some people here boycott the site, we don't know what the gamblers out there will do. They may continue to play in casinos originating from Russia because they have never been to this forum and heard the news about a desire to boycott gambling sites originating from Russia.

Maybe if the license provider carries out the boycott, it can work well because they as regulators of gambling sites have the right to block the licenses of each gambling site. But I don't know. It goes back to each gambler.

[Wexnident]

Maybe if the license provider carries out the boycott, it can work well because they as regulators of gambling sites have the right to block the licenses of each gambling site. But I don't know. It goes back to each gambler.

Yea I don't think that's going to happen. There wouldn't really be any big effects imo, casinos are just like a kind of business, and honestly, providers banning them doesn't seem like it's going to do anything, except for damaging businesses that have no actual effect on their economy. Honestly, no one even views gambling casinos as something that could help them, banned or not, so I don't think it's gonna happen.

Sanctions are there to persuade them from stopping, as well as to show the damages it could bring now and in the future. That's why sanctions with the SWIFT system, payment systems, etc., could really damage since their things that are needed most of the time to process stuff. Gambling isn't really one of them.

[swogerino]

For example, from fresh data, some gambling sites are already starting to block Russian users, as PokerStars says today on Twitter, it seems that now others will support this initiative

https://twitter.com/PokerStars/status/1501640076928983047 

Important update: we are suspending all our services in Russia

Some sites are supporting the boycott while some will not.

Can we call this a sanction also? I mean, how would the site benefit from it, or will it call the attention of the Russian government?
This is just gambling, even if it's ban, they can live without it, the biggest sanction IMO is the economic sanction which I'm sure will result to struggle of their country.

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

Even that pig Dmitry Peskov the press secretary for Russian government or I don't know his exact role but he always speaks in the name of the government said that the situation is turbulent but we are looking at ways to fix it.

I doubt though they will fix anything when they leave in a distort reality when the foreign matter minister Lavrov said in Antalya yesterday that we are not killing innocent people in Ukraine when just yesterday they bombed a maternity hospital.I hope for more stabs in the chest until the Russian people get up and fight for freedom once again,I highly doubt they are living in a free democratic country,for me Russia right now is increasingly becoming the second North Korea.

[MCVXYZ]

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.

[goldkingcoiner]

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.

This online casino gambling "sanction" is not really what anyone could call a real sanction, as its not really possible to enforce legally. An online gambling casino can always relocate its servers and change the people who are in "charge". First and foremost a sanction is supposed to take away the billions and billions of dollars that the sanctioned country has, so that it cannot use that money to fuel its war machine. Sanctioning the people only makes them angry, this anger can be redirected at the sanctioning countries easily.

We should take away Putins military might with precise sanctions to his military economic infrastructure.

[MCVXYZ]

Russia is in deep trouble now. There is so much else for the Russian government to worry about than on the gambling industry. The sanctions and bans from all over the world is a stab in their chest. I wonder how the government is bearing all the pain of international sections and the trouble they got from around the world. The economic sections are going to affect a long way. I wish like the war has been cursed and the world tries to cool the situation down, the same would happen for other countries in trouble.

You see my friend, Russia was prepared else they would have stopped their troops when delegates were sent to make peace but even within that period, they were still penetrating the Ukraine. I'm really looking how this sanctions will end though it doesn't make sense for the innocent business to suffer because a leader was mislead by his factions.
Many people depend on their business to feed, give sanctions to the persons holding power and not the man who see politics as a dirty game.

The aim of the concrete sanctions is to make people inside the country opposition-minded and to oppose their authorities. Many people don't understand this and think that sanctions are against innocent civilians. this is the circumstance where too many things depend on people and not just the governments.

This online casino gambling "sanction" is not really what anyone could call a real sanction, as its not really possible to enforce legally. An online gambling casino can always relocate its servers and change the people who are in "charge". First and foremost a sanction is supposed to take away the billions and billions of dollars that the sanctioned country has, so that it cannot use that money to fuel its war machine. Sanctioning the people only makes them angry, this anger can be redirected at the sanctioning countries easily.

We should take away Putins military might with precise sanctions to his military economic infrastructure.

I don't think that the sanctions can make people angry and this anger can be redirected to the countries who impose the sanctions, In contrast the sanctions may have the huge impact on citizens whose anger can be redirected to the authorities inside the sanctioned countries and as I mentioned its the aim of sanctions. Other countries don't worry about  ,,angry citizens'' outside their country.

[FatFork]

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I don't think that the sanctions can make people angry and this anger can be redirected to the countries who impose the sanctions, In contrast the sanctions may have the huge impact on citizens whose anger can be redirected to the authorities inside the sanctioned countries and as I mentioned its the aim of sanctions. Other countries don't worry about  ,,angry citizens'' outside their country.

Yes, sanctions and boycotts can make people angry, or at least uncomfortable, but the real question is whether they will persuade Putin to reverse his policies. It is apparent that Putin's regime keeps the people on a tight leash and will use sanctions as an excuse to keep them in line.

The real sanctions against the Russian people come from their government's policies. It may be that Western sanctions will make some people feel discomfort, but at the end of the day, the real suffering comes from the Kremlin's policies, not from the sanctions. As such, they will only bring more anger and alienation to the citizenry, and ultimately, lead to greater demonstrations and protests, creating even greater public discontent.

[mak013]

Yes, sanctions and boycotts can make people angry, or at least uncomfortable, but the real question is whether they will persuade Putin to reverse his policies. It is apparent that Putin's regime keeps the people on a tight leash and will use sanctions as an excuse to keep them in line.

The real sanctions against the Russian people come from their government's policies. It may be that Western sanctions will make some people feel discomfort, but at the end of the day, the real suffering comes from the Kremlin's policies, not from the sanctions. As such, they will only bring more anger and alienation to the citizenry, and ultimately, lead to greater demonstrations and protests, creating even greater public discontent.

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

[Cookdata]

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now.

[bittraffic]

Do you really believe in sanctions? Tell me how change the politics in North Korea or Iran? They are much smaller then Russia but i don`t see how their leaders cry and change politics. And when we are talking about North Korea - this country has no any resources and no possibilities to make problems to USA or EU but sanctions does not work even with such small country. Why do you think they will work with Russia?

The  two countries you made mentioned are two different things to be compare to Russia. First North Korea has been into autocratic system of government and with the fact that media and the west painting them red flags, half of the country haven't one day say they need democracy and so do Iran with theocracy where things might be hard for you to stay in.
Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest, those sanctions may not work Iran and North Korea but it will greatly have negative effects on Russians, Chelsea owner is facing the heat right now.

Not everyone knew that Russia is actually a democratic country and more than half I think are even Christians. And they are suffering not just because of their government's action but we sanctioned those Russian civilians like pushing them all to the wall. Its not working in the end because they will start enduring and work with the rest of the countries that are on their side like North Korea, India and China.

But who do you think will be able to say a country will need a democracy? 
What works in another country will not work for all because of the culture. North Korea had been that way for generations, the people there are used to it same with China or Iraq, or Libya.

[CDC AP]

I disagree with your ideas and asking for boycott of all Russian gambling platforms because is not any connected between war and gambling platform site, many people spent much money on Russian gambling platform site and they not care with war and never have Russian citizen looks agree with this war, I think have to make it different between gambling platform site and war, you looks as politician when mixing between war and gambling platform because all people try lucky with gambling and never car with politician situation around the world.

[ethereumhunter]

Yea I don't think that's going to happen. There wouldn't really be any big effects imo, casinos are just like a kind of business, and honestly, providers banning them doesn't seem like it's going to do anything, except for damaging businesses that have no actual effect on their economy. Honestly, no one even views gambling casinos as something that could help them, banned or not, so I don't think it's gonna happen.

Sanctions are there to persuade them from stopping, as well as to show the damages it could bring now and in the future. That's why sanctions with the SWIFT system, payment systems, etc., could really damage since their things that are needed most of the time to process stuff. Gambling isn't really one of them.

Unless there is pressure from the relevant government on the casino provider, the casino provider will act. But as long as it's nothing, the casino provider will let the casino run and pass the taxes on to them.

Gambling is one of the businesses that currently looks promising, especially online gambling. During the pandemic, there is a possibility that the number of online gamblers will increase drastically because many of them cannot go to physical casinos. So they try to play gambling in online casinos.

The sanctions may affect the people because reducing or banning goods from entering Russia will become a problem for the people and they are forced to save money.

Russia is a fully democratic system where everyone is open to right to freedom and live their life to the fullest

I don't know if Russia is a fully democratic system because I don't know life there. Maybe the sanctions can work but it is the people who suffer the most from the sanctions while the government and the political elite will not feel it too much. There is a possibility that it will trigger people to protest against his government because they live in misery.