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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.

2. Read the forum rules first.
The most rules that brand new users broke are post in a row, spamming, put referral on the topic, create duplicate thread and not deleted previous bump. Though if you broke this rules you wouldn't automatically be banned, but your post most likely can be deleted by moderators. Additional tip: if you want your thread remain on Gambling board, you need to accept Bitcoin on your casino, if not your topic will be moved to service announcement (altcoins). The rules can be read here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

3. Create announcement with well organized design.
Good announcement will bring a good impression to whoever see your thread, it also show how serious and well prepared your casino it is. If you register with brand new account, your images wouldn't be visible since each rank has a restrictions. You need to upgrade your rank to Jr. Member or buy copper membership to make the images visible.

4. Various advertisements.
Welcome bonus and wager contest are the good promotions to start as new casino. But almost on any casino will have this promotions and it's really common, also the requirements is really insane to beat. Usually welcome bonus you need 40x wager with the bonus money, wager contest you need to beat high roller and isn't easy. You can other promotions with easier to require even though the reward need to reduced e.g. daily wager, lottery.

5. On forum advertisements.
Having a promotions on casinos is good, but it will be better if you have a promotions dedicated for Bitcointalk user only. Many popular casinos in this forum mostly have this and they're not stopping even they already big. In this forum you can run signature campaign, run review contest about your casino, run prediction contest, slot multiplier or even art contest. To run those contests it will be better if you hire a manager to handle that, you can see on this thread Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

9. Active on forum.
It doesn't mean you need to active 24/7, you can active once a day, once in every three days or even once a week. You need to be active since many members will ask some questions related to your casino or some people have a problem with your casino. If you ignored their problems, many people will have bad impression on your casino.

10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.
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Promoting any kind of business always needs money not just casino. Advertising cost money, they could advertise through adnetworks actually but most users will try googling when they find new casino to check feedbacks, they are often led in this forum for it.

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Number 6 is very important
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.

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Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.

I would second that @coin-investor. Ensuring that a site is fully functioning and operating smoothly the moment it is posted and advertised, is a crucial factor because this is when players are enable to have the full experience of the site. Consequently, the could provide constructive criticisms, and significant inputs for the betterment of the site. And of course, the will show the professionalism and commitment of the management in launching a good site rather than those are just plainly rushing to launch a lousy site.

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March 04, 2022, 03:56:28 PM
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I don't think 7 matters that much? That's on the side of a subjective opinion, I'd rather have casinos properly stick to the rules that they have set instead of changing it willy nilly at times to their advantage, and set those said rules to the users properly.

Can't agree more with the others though, especially being active in the forum. There are a lot of instances where users have questions with regards to the casino after all, especially new ones. Heck, even old ones still coordinate here, especially during issues that users have that are in here, it's a rather easy way to communicate and understand what the issue is.

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I agree with all of this. I've seen too many casinos advertising here that are usually unfinished, too strict, too suspicious, terrible ANN thread, lack of activity after creating an ANN thread. I can't even remember how many times I have suggested to their representative/ANN thread creator to read the forum rules since they keep posting multiple times in a row.

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Great thread.

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10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

I strongly agree to this. Recently I've seen few of newly created threads from different online crypto casinos here that obviously rented newbies and even those accounts that are high ranking just to shill their site. Some are paid to defend the site even though it is obvious that the casino has some unresolved serious cases that they need to face.

I don't think 7 matters that much? That's on the side of a subjective opinion, I'd rather have casinos properly stick to the rules that they have set instead of changing it willy nilly at times to their advantage, and set those said rules to the users properly.
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I agree with you, it depends on the casino since they will depend on the regulation of their governing body.

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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

What about token casinos, they print the money with an smart contract and use that for the game. I don't think people really needs a lot of money to start a casino, with smart contracts we can get a cheap bankroll.

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3. Create announcement with well organized design.
4. Various advertisements.
5. On forum advertisements. 

All these points are part of Marketing, and marketing it's one of the most important things for the casinos, that's how they get new customers.

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8. Get a gambling license.
Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license

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All the aspects listed do have an important role in realizing the existence of a new casino. Regardless of having minimal capital or whatever, due to the fact the competition between casinos is very tight. So inevitably some aspects that need to be considered really serve as supporting the reputation of a casino. And this is evidenced by now we see the existence of casinos in large capital, services, casino policies, user discipline and convenience whose outputs are directly assessed by users who have gambled.

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After number 6 then number 3 is important to have a good ann thread. It would be not a good decision to make an ann thread without copper membership since you won't be able to post an image if you are a newbie but in order to post images then buying copper membership would remove the restriction of not being able to post images. Copper membership removes that restrictions so after buying copper membership would let you have a privilege the same as member rank. Having lots of money is needed to start your own casino so, I would say that it's the first thing to have.

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6. Make sure your site is already finished.

This should gambling owners to consider before making any launching because this would be the primary thing on which people would be looking at before they could give out their
main impression towards the site and if they do see that it is incomplete or lots of things been buggy and not that appealing in terms of UI/UX then people would normally
be turning their backs and wouldnt come back or wouldnt really be interested at all thats why always be mindful about that first impression does really lasts.

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Some of your points are quite relevant to forum rules but some other points like license, big capital, site appearance/design or which are not related to forum rules are not very important to think about when one is interested in gambling industry in forums.

The promotion strategy is a separate part of the forum rules in my opinion where it can be done in various ways either by art contest, signature campaign, bounty or so on. As long as the marketing strategy does not violate the forum rules, the owner is free to do so in this forum. New casinos will not have a good reputation at first because they will have to compete with dozens to hundreds of other casinos to get ahead. Obviously capital is needed if the owner is to spread awareness about the site on these forum and wants to get famous quickly, but that doesn't always guarantee success if the owner isn't serious about making the site competitive.

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MONEY is standard... with this you can;

•Make a decent website
•You can make advertisement
•You can get a license

and the rest will be depending on the effort that you would give out like being active and attentive.
Running a business would really be needing these factors for you to succeed.

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Yes.

Some on-chain gaming using smart contracts doesn't have a license but they still can run, the other user also verified the provably fair. They also can make some bounty for experience users to check their provably fair, is really fair or not.

Sometimes some casino with license is acting like a d**k while we win a lot.

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All the aspects listed do have an important role in realizing the existence of a new casino. Regardless of having minimal capital or whatever, due to the fact the competition between casinos is very tight. So inevitably some aspects that need to be considered really serve as supporting the reputation of a casino. And this is evidenced by now we see the existence of casinos in large capital, services, casino policies, user discipline and convenience whose outputs are directly assessed by users who have gambled.
To the list of ten points given by the OP I will add that the owners need to put a lot of attention to the security of their website, after all it is natural  that a great deal of attention will be given to the games and that the UI is as friendly as possible to new users, however all of that does not matter if the security is not tight.

We know there are a lot of hackers just waiting for the opportunity to exploit a bug in any website and steal as much money as they can, so a casino needs to invest heavily on its security otherwise it is just a matter of time until they get hacked and they lose the trust of the community.

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March 04, 2022, 09:44:07 PM
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I want to add that running a casino or gambling site in the forum requires being very genuine and honesty. Don't try to cheat gamblers because if you do, you definitely end up in the bad and negative books of users, like we already have some that are not trusted by members here. So if you want to stay longer with good record and large patronage, you must have to be clean and straight.

You are on point with number 5. Many signature campaigns running on the forum now are from gambling sites. They have made names and kept going with the campaign while some are coming up time in interval.

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March 04, 2022, 09:48:20 PM
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5. On forum advertisements.
Having a promotions on casinos is good, but it will be better if you have a promotions dedicated for Bitcointalk user only. Many popular casinos in this forum mostly have this and they're not stopping even they already big. In this forum you can run signature campaign, run review contest about your casino, run prediction contest, slot multiplier or even art contest. To run those contests it will be better if you hire a manager to handle that, you can see on this thread Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers
^ Aside from having a signature campaign you can also avail the signature banner when it is available, to advertise your company name.
In a business that I have witnessed in this gambling industry, those casinos that actively have marketing strategies will most likely become successful because probably it will lure gamblers, promotions and contests will make gamblers stay on the casino, they can earn free while hoping it will grow their winning on the casino as a prize. Nevrtheless, that is a good list, thank you for providing it.
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March 04, 2022, 09:50:26 PM
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Yes.

Some on-chain gaming using smart contracts doesn't have a license but they still can run, the other user also verified the provably fair. They also can make some bounty for experience users to check their provably fair, is really fair or not.

Sometimes some casino with license is acting like a d**k while we win a lot.
Even the trusted gambling platforms used to involve in such act when the user experience a big win. Other important things most required were the security, provably fair, KYC norms. Money plays big role because of the increased competence as more number of casinos are existing regularly. If there is no big competence slowly the platform can progress with small bank roll.

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March 04, 2022, 10:07:06 PM
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When a casino purchases a license, KYC verification should be (or maybe even must be) required.
And here comes the question of whether cryptocurrency casinos should require KYC verification, which has been discussed many times.
In my opinion, everyone should decide individually whether they prefer better security and casino with a license and KYC or an anonymous casino without a license.
I prefer anonymous casinos where KYC is not required, so for me the license is not important.

When it comes to a large amount of money, fine-tuning the details and speed of the platform and above all marketing, I fully agree.

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March 04, 2022, 10:13:27 PM
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When a casino purchases a license, KYC verification should be (or maybe even must be) required.
And here comes the question of whether cryptocurrency casinos should require KYC verification, which has been discussed many times.
In my opinion, everyone should decide individually whether they prefer better security and casino with a license and KYC or an anonymous casino without a license.
I prefer anonymous casinos where KYC is not required, so for me the license is not important.
When it comes to a large amount of money, fine-tuning the details and speed of the platform and above all marketing, I fully agree.
I don't think that all casinos that have license will require KYC right away if that's what it is but it may be a different situation where the casino that have license would only ask KYC when you do transactions (mostly withdrawal of the funds). You chould check popular casinos with a license and see if you will need KYC right after you create an account as it would mostly about what I just said. For each gamblers, it is up to the people who gamble want to choose about a casino that gamblers wanted to gamble which in your case is an anonymous casino without a license but with a fine turning of the securities and some are fine with a casino with KYC required.

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March 04, 2022, 10:20:35 PM
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When a casino purchases a license, KYC verification should be (or maybe even must be) required.
And here comes the question of whether cryptocurrency casinos should require KYC verification, which has been discussed many times.
In my opinion, everyone should decide individually whether they prefer better security and casino with a license and KYC or an anonymous casino without a license.
I prefer anonymous casinos where KYC is not required, so for me the license is not important.
When it comes to a large amount of money, fine-tuning the details and speed of the platform and above all marketing, I fully agree.
I don't think that all casinos that have license will require KYC right away if that's what it is but it may be a different situation where the casino that have license would only ask KYC when you do transactions (mostly withdrawal of the funds). You chould check popular casinos with a license and see if you will need KYC right after you create an account as it would mostly about what I just said. For each gamblers, it is up to the people who gamble want to choose about a casino that gamblers wanted to gamble which in your case is an anonymous casino without a license but with a fine turning of the securities and some are fine with a casino with KYC required.

Not all top casinos here with gambling license requires KYC.
Like for example, stake, if you are just a small timer and is using crypto, they won't require KYC.
But of course, you always need to keep in mind that at any given moment, they may ask your KYC details.
In my opinion, it is better to play in a reputable casino (whether they will possibly ask KYC) rather than a substandard one, where you have the worry of not getting out your funds.
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March 04, 2022, 10:28:00 PM
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Most probably they already know how to create their own gambling site, but having this one can guide them to become more effective here in the forum since a lot of good site today, really started from this forum and they are really effective. Hoping that every inspiring casinos will work it and do their advertisements here, we really want to have more good option site and a legit one.
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March 04, 2022, 10:47:37 PM
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Another way to learn quickly is to observe other leading and successful casinos out there. You could learn from their style, and if you don't like something about their features or anything, you could tweak it at your own satisfaction. This way you could short the process and if you get lucky, you will also be like them. Imagine a casino surviving  this long, experienced the ups and downs on the market, and all the hindrance a long the way is a reliable mentor.
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March 04, 2022, 10:53:47 PM
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But the question is why do I need to play in a casino from which I will not be able to make a withdrawal if I do not pass the KYC verification? After all, it is obvious that if I play at the casino, there is a probability that I will win. Should I give up the win then? Of course not, I just choose a casino that does not have a license and does not require verification, because I believe that cryptocurrency casinos should be anonymous. It is possible that there are casinos that are licensed and do not require verification, but I do not know any.

In my opinion, it is better to play in a reputable casino (whether they will possibly ask KYC) rather than a substandard one, where you have the worry of not getting out your funds.

This is your opinion, I prefer to remain anonymous.

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March 04, 2022, 10:58:42 PM
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All of these suggestions are good, but they are a bit general. For example, a gambling license isn't a must. There are some great, respectable unlicensed casinos out there. On the other hand, some licensed casinos should be avoided like the plague. When it comes to marketing and on forum advertisements, every new casino needs to find its niche. For some gamblers, welcome bonuses and wager contests are very important, but others prefer to enjoy the experience alone. Other than that, I generally agree with your analysis.

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All the legit and popular casinos right now on this forum have followed these steps and even taken extra miles by giving bonuses and giveaways, they know how to be on top of their games even before these guidelines and steps are created, those who lack these steps are newbie casino operators who are experimenting and still exploring how to promote their casino here, we all know here what to look on a casino and what makes them legit.
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More than half of the list are not really steps for casinos in this forum. They're by default the necessary things to do if they want their casinos to succeed, whether they choose to be present in this forum or not. Even regarding paid shills; it is not only in this forum where paid shills could be active. Many casino reviews elsewhere are made by shills.

As regards number 6, I think it is most acceptable for casinos to present the beta or even alpha versions of their platforms. Let selected users try their platform, make a review, report bugs, raise suggestions and recommendations, and so on. This would help the casino come up with a much better final platform.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.




1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.
This is why I always condemned those casino that has trying to shill the site with their own accounts meaning this proves that they have no Budget at all and just trying their luck to find victims.

I am not saying that you cannot start a gambling site without Huge capital but at least has a fund to pay incase there isa  big wins in your jackpots.

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2. Read the forum rules first.
The most rules that brand new users broke are post in a row, spamming, put referral on the topic, create duplicate thread and not deleted previous bump. Though if you broke this rules you wouldn't automatically be banned, but your post most likely can be deleted by moderators. Additional tip: if you want your thread remain on Gambling board, you need to accept Bitcoin on your casino, if not your topic will be moved to service announcement (altcoins). The rules can be read here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ
This is also a red flag to me, when the site just come here posting and advertising without knowledge about or forum rules.

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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.
actually they can have a dry running but will offer payments for those account that will find Bugs in their site to make them a better business here.
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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

I don't think this is Necessary because this will surely implement a KYC as many of us hate it so much .









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March 05, 2022, 08:08:23 AM
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I really like the things you have listed and I can say that all of it is right but I would like to add that they shouldn't limit themselves in the forum there still other ways to promote it not just in forum but also other ways including sponsorship of a team, handling a sports or Esports tournament, airdrops or giveaways online. Also, they can run local tournaments, competitions and promotions here.


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March 05, 2022, 08:34:49 AM
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Why would someone failed to pass KYC if you did use your own personal information to the site and provided documents to prove it?. As what TimeTeller explained, that was what I was going to say that you can gamble on a casino that has license and don't need to complete KYC unless the casino detect something suspicious in your account or whatever it is to make them suspicious to your account then you'll be asked to complete KYC. After all, we have different types of likes and dislikes about a crypto casino.

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I really like the things you have listed and I can say that all of it is right but I would like to add that they shouldn't limit themselves in the forum there still other ways to promote it not just in forum but also other ways including sponsorship of a team, handling a sports or Esports tournament, airdrops or giveaways online. Also, they can run local tournaments, competitions and promotions here.
yups , this forum is one of the best  place to advertise but there are many places where gambling site can  promote theirs .

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also agree that those points delivered by op are complete details that most casino need to be an attitude if they wanted to stay longer here.

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Your points are well-made, however they are constrained in several ways. That money part is important because as soon as a casino is launched in this gambling board, people hurry to see if there is any open promotion that they can participate in to win a few prizes. It's even a common practice that basically every casino on this board engages in from time to time in order to attract new customers.
You'll need that money to keep players on their toes after every win, if withdrawals are delayed, they'll change their playing ground.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.
Gambling site needs huge funds because there are chances that the first deposit can bring a gamblers luck and may win multiple times than his deposit funds.
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.
indeed , because there are many case here that the problem starts when the players begin to play.
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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

Strict rules must not be there, but at least implementation is a need for the site to stay strong and worth it.









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Number 6 is very important
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.


I fully agree with your statement.

The problem with most gambling websites is that they announce prematurely about their incoming gambling websites and activities, while their website is still under development and incomplete. While online gambling projects may announce their upcoming plans, they should not entirely release their websites if it is not 100% complete.

I think it is easier if gambling websites/projects should release like a feedback form about their websites for further development. In this way, these projects would have a high retaining rate of new and old players.

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Also try to fund some kind of signature campaign on the forum to boost your exposure to gamblers on this forum. If you want to see what other casinos are currently offering signature campaigns... go to this thread ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0 (Try to offer something competitive)

Also make sure to hire a good Signature campaign manager, because they make things so much easier for you. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0 )

The most important thing.... DO NOT scam people, because news spread like wild fire on here ..and you will quickly get a reputation.  Tongue

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Also try to fund some kind of signature campaign on the forum to boost your exposure to gamblers on this forum. If you want to see what other casinos are currently offering signature campaigns... go to this thread ==> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0 (Try to offer something competitive)
i think that is what must be in the top of the tips  , because this is one important thing when promotion is in the house.

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Also make sure to hire a good Signature campaign manager, because they make things so much easier for you. ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0 )
indeed , thee are many managers that trust worthy but of course there are few names that stands out but i am not in the right position to name them.
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The most important thing.... DO NOT scam people, because news spread like wild fire on here ..and you will quickly get a reputation.  Tongue

+1 in this, forum has a lot of eyes and ears that can see and hear all the details specially bad things in gambling because that risks their precious money.

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Everything here is correct you can easily tell if the representative or administrators is fully aware of how to promote his casino correctly if they follow everything listed here, they can make this as a reference for a new casino, all the top casinos here are following what are on this steps, the most important part is the first day of the announcement here if you lack some of what's on these steps you will waste your time correcting, so better start correctly by following what's on this step.


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8. Get a gambling license.
Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license
A good license still gives the user some peace of mind though. Not that I'm saying all licensed casinos are good, hence the word "good" before the license. Curacao, for example, is a license afaik that can easily be obtained by anyone, it doesn't make it a bad one, but it can easily be obtained as long as you have the money afaik. Also, I don't think people often check provably fair at the start? Pretty sure casinos would put priority in wanting more exposure so they'd want something that could let them have an initial good reputation at first glance.

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8. Get a gambling license.
Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license
A good license still gives the user some peace of mind though. Not that I'm saying all licensed casinos are good, hence the word "good" before the license. Curacao, for example, is a license afaik that can easily be obtained by anyone, it doesn't make it a bad one, but it can easily be obtained as long as you have the money afaik. Also, I don't think people often check provably fair at the start? Pretty sure casinos would put priority in wanting more exposure so they'd want something that could let them have an initial good reputation at first glance.

For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.

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Number 6 is very important
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.


I fully agree with your statement.

The problem with most gambling websites is that they announce prematurely about their incoming gambling websites and activities, while their website is still under development and incomplete. While online gambling projects may announce their upcoming plans, they should not entirely release their websites if it is not 100% complete.

I think it is easier if gambling websites/projects should release like a feedback form about their websites for further development. In this way, these projects would have a high retaining rate of new and old players.

We have a number of new casinos that lacks some of the steps you've provided that is why they are getting negative feedback from the community, casinos are serious business, they must have an almost perfect system because people are going to deposit money and wants to play to enjoy, people are not looking to make big bucks they want to  a place to enjoy and they don't want issue along the way.

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For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.
Sometimes new casinos just want to make sure the license is legal and for me, that's normal although sometimes there are stricter rules like KYC requirements etc.
The most important thing is that new casinos must build a good reputation, we here have been familiar with gambling for a long time, of course, we will choose an old and safe casino, so far we have played, now on the other hand, new casinos to build it always offer bigger promotions but indeed it is our choice which one is better best.

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March 05, 2022, 01:35:30 PM
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For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.
Sometimes new casinos just want to make sure the license is legal and for me, that's normal although sometimes there are stricter rules like KYC requirements etc.
The most important thing is that new casinos must build a good reputation, we here have been familiar with gambling for a long time, of course, we will choose an old and safe casino, so far we have played, now on the other hand, new casinos to build it always offer bigger promotions but indeed it is our choice which one is better best.

Curacao license nowadays can be easily acquired if you have money to cover all the fees but since they still an audit and review, Scam new casino typically turn off on acquiring and just go for a poor marketing in forum or social media. Most of this scam new casino offers an insane promotion or compy the name of famous casino to catch attention of gamblers. For me even the license system of Curacao is not that widely reputable, atleast they require casino to register under a legit company and declare a physical address for user protection. Only few casino turn into scam that has a license, most of them only accused by unknown user without proof.

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8. Get a gambling license.
Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license
A good license still gives the user some peace of mind though. Not that I'm saying all licensed casinos are good, hence the word "good" before the license. Curacao, for example, is a license afaik that can easily be obtained by anyone, it doesn't make it a bad one, but it can easily be obtained as long as you have the money afaik. Also, I don't think people often check provably fair at the start? Pretty sure casinos would put priority in wanting more exposure so they'd want something that could let them have an initial good reputation at first glance.

For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.

That is why the casino must be able to manage its project by offering real promotions that draw the attention of gamblers and help it bring in new customers, and here the casino needs a huge budget to achieve this.
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.


I fully agree with your statement.

The problem with most gambling websites is that they announce prematurely about their incoming gambling websites and activities, while their website is still under development and incomplete. While online gambling projects may announce their upcoming plans, they should not entirely release their websites if it is not 100% complete.

I think it is easier if gambling websites/projects should release like a feedback form about their websites for further development. In this way, these projects would have a high retaining rate of new and old players.

We have several new casinos that lacks some of the steps you've provided that is why they are getting negative feedback from the community, casinos are serious business, they must have an almost perfect system because people are going to deposit money and wants to play to enjoy, people are not looking to make big bucks they want to a place to enjoy and they don't want issue along the way.

Some of them would rush things out just to advertise their site without even finishing it first which creates a bad impression here in the forum. It would be better if they would post it here when everything is well polished. Through that, they would be able to put up a good reputation from the beginning which is important to gain the trust of their users.
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Number 6 is very important
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6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.
Having a complete and finished casino with all its features TOS complete with no typo error will gain you rust from players, another thing that is the most important before inviting players to play is to check and double-check all the game's deposit and withdrawals functions, players will always check if everything is working fine and this is where you get the best feedback.
I remember there is someone who posted a gambling thread here but there is no website yet and they only receive a foul feedback. That is already a turnoff and they won't visit your website anymore even if you have finished it few days later. You just wasted the opportunity given to you by bitcointalk forum.

About the typo thing, there is also a website that has this error. Some users can easily suspect and will tagged the casino as scam because of it but it's true because scammers often don't pay attention to the details but they are only rushing because they can't wait to earn. Bugs in a new site doesn't totally scare players but some can get attracted because they can take advantage of it.

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Regarding the second and third points:
2. Read the forum rules first.
3. Create announcement with well organized design.
My advice to any casino owner who wants to advertise his service in this forum but he is not familiar with it is to hire one of the known managers to create and manage the Ann thread.
Regarding the seventh point:
7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
It's better to have a FAQ page and a clear and well detailed ToS page than to be lenient and don't enforce rules.

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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
It's better to have a FAQ page and a clear and well detailed ToS page than to be lenient and don't enforce rules.
^ This caught my attention, in what way we can consider as strict about the rules?
A KYC? IP restriction? or anything else that I did not mention.
But that is a good idea, there should be a FAQ that gamblers need to read because I know a few of us did not read TOS especially if this is long to read like it reach 3-4 pages. However, TOS should need to spend time before using such a gambling platform so that we know those very crucial rules that we should be avoided.
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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
It's better to have a FAQ page and a clear and well detailed ToS page than to be lenient and don't enforce rules.
^ This caught my attention, in what way we can consider as strict about the rules?
A KYC? IP restriction? or anything else that I did not mention.
But that is a good idea, there should be a FAQ that gamblers need to read because I know a few of us did not read TOS especially if this is long to read like it reach 3-4 pages. However, TOS should need to spend time before using such a gambling platform so that we know those very crucial rules that we should be avoided.

Well from a legal point of view as well as from the point of view of other's countries regulations, I do not think that online gambling casinos get to decide their rules. In fact, they are pretty much all enforcing the same rules, more or less.

Thats really something you need to talk to a legal consultant about. Like a lawyer specializing in online gambling casinos.

It should not matter how easy or hard or long the TOS is to read, if its required by law then thats that. No room for user experience and modification.

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Gambling sites are subject to certain laws and regulations, depending on the license.

This is why I believe that it is not necessary for a cryptocurrency casino to have a license.
Of course, if security is more important to someone, there are many casinos on the market that have much more security than just license. However, when it comes to cryptocurrency casinos, anonymity is a very big asset, at least for me. Therefore, I prefer to play in those that do not have a license and thus do not have KYC verification.
Having a license is a big thing, many gamblers prefer to play on those casinos and they believed that they are safe if they gamble on those casinos, that’s why many casinos today are seeking to have a license. Well, there are still some site that didn’t ask for any KYC even if they are regulated and have a license, though of course KYC can still be asked later on. This guide should be more broad, making a new gambling site requires a lot of works.
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Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Excellent guide, and of course I agree with everything.
There is definitely a bit more detail, but it is a great tip for casino owners to get started with advertising their service on Bitcointalk.
We see many times that casinos simply don't know how to use the potential of this forum because they just don't know it. The complexity of all this also shows that casino owners should consider employing a specialist who has extensive experience in Bitcointalk. Thanks to this, they could achieve much better marketing results and possibly save a lot of money on expensive outside advertising.

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Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.

If the casino itself is sincere in launching their gambling business, they won't publish their site half-way of their development. Because this will give a not-so-good first impression to players. Also, it will give a notion that they are in a hurry to possibly attract naive players. If you are here in the forum long enough, you already know by now how to spot substandard casinos. If you are a casino owner, before launching your platform, more than likely, you also did your tons of research especially if you are venturing the crypto casinos.
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3. Create announcement with well organized design.
My advice to any casino owner who wants to advertise his service in this forum but he is not familiar with it is to hire one of the known managers to create and manage the Ann thread.


It's much better that the owner of the casino is the one opening the announcement thread so they will have full control on what's they are going to show on the title and the first post, so if their contract with the managers cease they have full control of their announcement thread, they can hire managers to manage and open a thread for them but when it comes to the official announcement it should be the gambling operator


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March 06, 2022, 04:52:45 AM
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I agree with all of this. I've seen too many casinos advertising here that are usually unfinished, too strict, too suspicious, terrible ANN thread, lack of activity after creating an ANN thread. I can't even remember how many times I have suggested to their representative/ANN thread creator to read the forum rules since they keep posting multiple times in a row.
Indeed. What I dont like is after creating the thread there's no further updates and no one is answering the questions (in short abondoning the thread after creating it). How can they attract gamblers if they show less concern and effort right?

Thats why this guide of op is useful to those casino owners/representatives who are planning to introduce their casino here.

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I agree with all of this. I've seen too many casinos advertising here that are usually unfinished, too strict, too suspicious, terrible ANN thread, lack of activity after creating an ANN thread. I can't even remember how many times I have suggested to their representative/ANN thread creator to read the forum rules since they keep posting multiple times in a row.
Indeed. What I dont like is after creating the thread there's no further updates and no one is answering the questions (in short abondoning the thread after creating it). How can they attract gamblers if they show less concern and effort right?
Well you are right, there are too many of them here, --and after posting their announcement thread they will no longer respond or perhaps after 2-3 pages, they will no longer reply on the thread. However, I like the effort that gambling casinos are actively giving updates on their ANN thread.
OP saying was right, these are very helpful most especially how they will market here their casino.









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March 06, 2022, 05:50:18 AM
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That's a pretty good list,but most of things mentioned in the list are just common sense.
Every person(or a team),that wants to start a crypto casino is probably aware or these points.
Creating a finished and fully functional website>buying copper membership/creating good ANN post>starting a signature campaign>providing customer service and answering questions/solving problems.This is just common sense.
However,I'm overwhelmed by the amount of unprofessional announcement threads and not-fully-functional casinos being promoted here on the forum.Some people need to understand,that half-assing everything is NOT the path to success.Attention to detail is the key to every successful business.

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7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

Actually it is very common thing in this industry where there is a huge win, the casino will do further check first before releasing the money. I believe it is written in their Terms and Services, it does not mean that they are too strict with the rules but they are doing as what is written in their terms. In case where there are casino denying to pay huge win with a reason of abuse but there is no proof, I would say the casino is scammer instead of being strict with rules.

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8. Get a gambling license.
Some casinos don't have one, and that doesn't make for them scams. A good provably fair engine can cover a lack of license
A good license still gives the user some peace of mind though. Not that I'm saying all licensed casinos are good, hence the word "good" before the license. Curacao, for example, is a license afaik that can easily be obtained by anyone, it doesn't make it a bad one, but it can easily be obtained as long as you have the money afaik. Also, I don't think people often check provably fair at the start? Pretty sure casinos would put priority in wanting more exposure so they'd want something that could let them have an initial good reputation at first glance.

For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.

That is why the casino must be able to manage its project by offering real promotions that draw the attention of gamblers and help it bring in new customers, and here the casino needs a huge budget to achieve this.
Promotion is needed , because that will lure the players and gamblers to enter and deposit in your site  but never forget that what needed most is the ability of the site to bring answers to all problem because this will be like a fire ignited if their support missed addressing their players problem specially in withdrawals .









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For new casino this is really important but if the license came from curacao then maybe this shouldn't be take as a big deal since this is not a strong basis to call a new casino a legit one. But to be honest I don't play on new casino since there's no need to get hype since in the end the oldest one and the most reputable or gaining the momentum is the best option to choose here.
Sometimes new casinos just want to make sure the license is legal and for me, that's normal although sometimes there are stricter rules like KYC requirements etc.
The most important thing is that new casinos must build a good reputation, we here have been familiar with gambling for a long time, of course, we will choose an old and safe casino, so far we have played, now on the other hand, new casinos to build it always offer bigger promotions but indeed it is our choice which one is better best.

Curacao license nowadays can be easily acquired if you have money to cover all the fees but since they still an audit and review, Scam new casino typically turn off on acquiring and just go for a poor marketing in forum or social media. Most of this scam new casino offers an insane promotion or compy the name of famous casino to catch attention of gamblers. For me even the license system of Curacao is not that widely reputable, atleast they require casino to register under a legit company and declare a physical address for user protection. Only few casino turn into scam that has a license, most of them only accused by unknown user without proof.

That's why I don't called a valid proof since as of now many casino choose to get a curacao license since the requirement is quite easy for owners who have money to spend on the requirements they ask. I always look for long time running casino which got good feedback from its own community since we can really on user experience and other things like promotion or contest is just a bonus for this.

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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

These are some excellent tips that you put together and will help any budding casino owner who wants to get into the game. There is one thing that will be crucial to any casino or gambling operation - security. As a place where "anonymous" crypto currency is moving in and out, you will have people constantly trying to attack your site in all sorts of ingenuous ways. If you're using a pre-built clone type solution you'll probably have a bit more protection as it has been tested by others before you, however if you're using new and custom code then expect all sorts of unexpected exploits. They'll also be people who will attempt denial of service on your site, you cannot make money if it is down - so you will probably have to pay for some expensive mitigation which I guess comes back to the first point, you will need a lot of money to stay up.

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March 06, 2022, 11:39:51 AM
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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

This item 1 is usually ignored by fly-by-night casinos because they are thinking that they can lure users that will send money to their site without any question. But if you are sincere in this business, bankroll is the number 1 to be taken care of. This is why you need private investors if you can't afford to shell out your own funds. Before, if you are a new casino here, some members will ask for your bankroll amount along with the address where it is being stored at. But now, very few are disclosing this amount, so maybe, users stop inquiring about this aspect because it is hard to extract from the owners.
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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

It's basic and the most important part because everything starts when you have a lot of money, the admin should not stop when he has the site ready, he should have more in the official launching because he'll have to give bonuses and giveaways and of course promotions, the hot wallet should always fill, casino operations is not a token promotion where the operation will run when investors start investing, you need to build so they will come.

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March 06, 2022, 02:47:01 PM
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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

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This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

Sometimes it is hard for the casino owners to publish, maintain the ANN threads and also it is not very easy to start signature marketing campaign by themselves. What they can do preferably, is to hire an experienced manager here who can not only handle the signature campaigns for that gambling site but at the same time, he can use his resources to develop a perfect attractive ann thread.

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March 06, 2022, 03:13:26 PM
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That's a pretty good list,but most of things mentioned in the list are just common sense.
Every person(or a team),that wants to start a crypto casino is probably aware or these points.
Creating a finished and fully functional website>buying copper membership/creating good ANN post>starting a signature campaign>providing customer service and answering questions/solving problems.This is just common sense.
However,I'm overwhelmed by the amount of unprofessional announcement threads and not-fully-functional casinos being promoted here on the forum.Some people need to understand,that half-assing everything is NOT the path to success.Attention to detail is the key to every successful business.

As you wrote yourself, these are pretty basic rules that every casino should follow, but you have also noticed that many of them don't do that. This is why this guide is so important - for those who don't know it.
From my observations, many casino owners are unaware of Bitcointalk's marketing potential. If this is the case, then they should either read and learn all the points presented by the OP very well, or hire a person who has good experience on the forum.

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March 06, 2022, 03:16:45 PM
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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

This point contradicts with itself. Casinos do KYC because they have gambling licenses, it is not the other way around. Freebitco.in has no licenses and they don't do any KYC at all.

On the other hand, all the other casinos that have licenses hace KYC in their T.O.S. Not all of them are enforcing KYC but they may when they wanted to.

I think it is better to have no license.

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First, all the options you stated on the thread is conveyed to start up casinos like you said. And the guide will take them a long way if they have not been into the business of running a casino before. The money aspect is crucial because to run an Advert anywhere online requires huge amount of money. Op you forgot to state that the process won't be as fast as most of them will think. Because despite having the money, so many users here already got their favorite online casinos and to convert them to play a new casino will be difficult. In addition, they are expected to have patience and watch their platform grow gradually. Until they are satisfied with the number of users that will join their platform. This can take years to achieve.

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March 06, 2022, 10:04:17 PM
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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

This point contradicts with itself. Casinos do KYC because they have gambling licenses, it is not the other way around. Freebitco.in has no licenses and they don't do any KYC at all.

On the other hand, all the other casinos that have licenses hace KYC in their T.O.S. Not all of them are enforcing KYC but they may when they wanted to.

I think it is better to have no license.

As for cryptocurrency casinos, in my opinion they should not require KYC verification. However, on the other hand, if they want to operate legally in the place where they are registered, then the license and thus verification may be mandatory. Simply, casinos should make a decision about how they want to operate before registering. Later, it is up to gamblers whether they want to choose a licensed casino or play anonymously in casinos without a license. I prefer casinos without KYC verification, so without a license.


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March 06, 2022, 11:20:56 PM
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Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.

If the casino itself is sincere in launching their gambling business, they won't publish their site half-way of their development. Because this will give a not-so-good first impression to players. Also, it will give a notion that they are in a hurry to possibly attract naive players. If you are here in the forum long enough, you already know by now how to spot substandard casinos. If you are a casino owner, before launching your platform, more than likely, you also did your tons of research especially if you are venturing the crypto casinos.
But out of excitement probably, that's why they're announcing a portion of their casino before the launching. It's not yet finish and they're telling it but what the gamblers want is a fully-finished casino where is ready to deposit and withdraw funds upon winning. Not just a portion of it and then a need to wait until it's wholly done. It's like a trailer and a peek for them to show to the possible gamblers that would like to play on them.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 06, 2022, 11:32:31 PM
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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.

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March 07, 2022, 01:47:28 AM
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Let us just simplify the needs and that is to be trustworthy and be real, no hidden target and no hidden plans .

because no matter how they pretend to be a good casino but in the end everything will be broadcast as the forum members are good in searching and checking each activities of the site.
 but the points given by OP is indeed important tools if they wanted the business to stay and make a long run in this business.









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Very good post mate, but I believe number 6 rule isn't supposed to the among the rules, cus how would someone in his or her right mind would launch a promotion for a casino which it's website isn't even ready? That is totally absurd and a real waste of resources(money), common sense should tell one the casino owner(s) that rule number six is a must and as such, it's shouldn't be in the list.
And also business without money is as good as useless and dead, just like faith without works, the Bible said is dead, he or she who is going to a business like building an online casino should have a alot of money set aside even for the unexpected, this way, you don't end up starting what you can't finish.

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Many gambling starts their platform to release in the market or the community because of course like good to go and for sure many people make a criticize on that thing such as the UI/UX and the functionality by that the gambling platform now makes an update with this issue to make a deliver a good quality of services. I guess having a KYC is still important in some points such as the level 1 KYC just the names for some security purposes. Also the withdrawal fee in terms of transaction we know that most of the gamblers don't make a large amount of money and those withdrawal fees are so much high than the current mempool. To the gambling platform would like to start just having the good UI, services and being active in the forum gives a good impact and reputation to you if you want to create.

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Let us just simplify the needs and that is to be trustworthy and be real, no hidden target and no hidden plans .

because no matter how they pretend to be a good casino but in the end everything will be broadcast as the forum members are good in searching and checking each activities of the site.
 but the points given by OP is indeed important tools if they wanted the business to stay and make a long run in this business.

Those steps are good for those starting out on their journey here in this forum but establishing their presence and reputation is a long journey they will have to be active in addressing every issue and concern and they have to render fair judgment on every issue of course launching a signature campaign and giving out bonuses and giveaways will attract attention to players, establishing a reputation is a work in progress.


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Those steps are good for those starting out on their journey here in this forum but establishing their presence and reputation is a long journey they will have to be active in addressing every issue and concern and they have to render fair judgment on every issue of course launching a signature campaign and giving out bonuses and giveaways will attract attention to players, establishing a reputation is a work in progress.
What i found in this market over the years? is that as long as the gambling site has funds to sustain the wins of each players? and maintain their advertising in this forum and out? yes that is more than enough for the site to stay in business and stays trustworthy .
yeah there are some troubles they might come across but the reality will keep talking and the players will support for the casino's popularity and increase depositors and bettors .

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Number 6 might be possible if he invites some beta testers to see if the system is up and running as desired because the owner and the team need to know what's going on from the user's side. If something doesn't look good, they can fix it. So before launching the casino to the public, they are ready with everything and there will be no problem, especially if they immediately want to promote.

But indeed, building an online casino must have a lot of money to ensure that their site is ready to be launched, and they need to think about how much money they have to prepare for promotion.

@OP wrote that number 6 should be in the online casino so that people can see if the casino can indeed provide comfort in playing gambling.



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To the casino would like to promote here I guess they need to make sure they are on the proper board to make sure the answer of their question is related to the response of the member, one of the best is to make a good reputation here in the forum such as creating their banners, what are their objectives to easier to make insight to the members if they are good to use or not, next if they make a good quality service is releasing signature is one of the best so many members will make an option to play a gambling, most of the known casino here too using an event as the different contest can be done like an art contest, and etc.

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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.
To start any business you need funds there is no denial in that but if you have a team and willing to take the part of their salary from the profits then you can start with minimal funds. If you don't have a team or don't have funds to hire the required team then what you are saying will be relevant, get the money first before starting the business.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.

2. Read the forum rules first.
The most rules that brand new users broke are post in a row, spamming, put referral on the topic, create duplicate thread and not deleted previous bump. Though if you broke this rules you wouldn't automatically be banned, but your post most likely can be deleted by moderators. Additional tip: if you want your thread remain on Gambling board, you need to accept Bitcoin on your casino, if not your topic will be moved to service announcement (altcoins). The rules can be read here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

3. Create announcement with well organized design.
Good announcement will bring a good impression to whoever see your thread, it also show how serious and well prepared your casino it is. If you register with brand new account, your images wouldn't be visible since each rank has a restrictions. You need to upgrade your rank to Jr. Member or buy copper membership to make the images visible.

4. Various advertisements.
Welcome bonus and wager contest are the good promotions to start as new casino. But almost on any casino will have this promotions and it's really common, also the requirements is really insane to beat. Usually welcome bonus you need 40x wager with the bonus money, wager contest you need to beat high roller and isn't easy. You can other promotions with easier to require even though the reward need to reduced e.g. daily wager, lottery.

5. On forum advertisements.
Having a promotions on casinos is good, but it will be better if you have a promotions dedicated for Bitcointalk user only. Many popular casinos in this forum mostly have this and they're not stopping even they already big. In this forum you can run signature campaign, run review contest about your casino, run prediction contest, slot multiplier or even art contest. To run those contests it will be better if you hire a manager to handle that, you can see on this thread Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

9. Active on forum.
It doesn't mean you need to active 24/7, you can active once a day, once in every three days or even once a week. You need to be active since many members will ask some questions related to your casino or some people have a problem with your casino. If you ignored their problems, many people will have bad impression on your casino.

10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

I very much agree with number 6. I've stumbled upon many thread and post here before up until this date regarding this. Some people tend to promote and advertise their site despite the fact that is isn't finished yet. How could you gather and entice customer and players to your website if the mere site itself isn't functioning right just yet? If the website is still lacking and isn't really done that it's good to be seen and accessed upon, I suggest you rather not broadcast it yet because the opposite of what you're trying to do will going to happen. Instead of people flocking in your website, they will ignore and get away from it. Because you should offer a good and quality service and not just the so-so. The clients should get the worth of the buck they would pay for. If you are a casino businessman or planning to build one, you should definitely take note of this. You could ask for suggestions while wrapping things up. But don't publicize it yet if it's not thoroughly done.
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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

9. Active on forum.
It doesn't mean you need to active 24/7, you can active once a day, once in every three days or even once a week. You need to be active since many members will ask some questions related to your casino or some people have a problem with your casino. If you ignored their problems, many people will have bad impression on your casino.

10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

I think there is some flexibility with the first two points. People sometimes overestimate the important of a gambling license at some of these jurisdictions, it means very little - it's a paid mascot often with no regulator to help the customers which is why people would have any faith in them in the first place, basically an illusion of security. If you're a casino owner it helps to be active on the forum and you do need to resolve any allegations of impropriety, however you can also pay others to do a lot of this for you. On the last point, it is amazing how some casino operators think they're being sneaky with shills but it leaves an obvious trail and is identifiable over time - definitely one thing to avoid, little gain for major downside potential.

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March 09, 2022, 10:28:29 PM
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To the casino would like to promote here I guess they need to make sure they are on the proper board to make sure the answer of their question is related to the response of the member, one of the best is to make a good reputation here in the forum such as creating their banners, what are their objectives to easier to make insight to the members if they are good to use or not, next if they make a good quality service is releasing signature is one of the best so many members will make an option to play a gambling, most of the known casino here too using an event as the different contest can be done like an art contest, and etc.
Marketing should be standard not only on this industry but also in other industries as well on which exposure is a must but the most important thing is on what the site is offering about and
also design/UI/UX would really be crucial when it comes to overall possible success that you could get into this market. Exposure would be useless if the site offering and appearance
isnt really that good thats why you should really be putting emphasis or focus on this one.

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March 09, 2022, 10:39:33 PM
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To the casino would like to promote here I guess they need to make sure they are on the proper board to make sure the answer of their question is related to the response of the member, one of the best is to make a good reputation here in the forum such as creating their banners, what are their objectives to easier to make insight to the members if they are good to use or not, next if they make a good quality service is releasing signature is one of the best so many members will make an option to play a gambling, most of the known casino here too using an event as the different contest can be done like an art contest, and etc.
Marketing should be standard not only on this industry but also in other industries as well on which exposure is a must but the most important thing is on what the site is offering about and
also design/UI/UX would really be crucial when it comes to overall possible success that you could get into this market. Exposure would be useless if the site offering and appearance
isnt really that good thats why you should really be putting emphasis or focus on this one.

It is worth to promote a casino or any project if the platform itself is ready.
But if the casino is still in the development stage and still a lot of things to be fix on the site, promotion is just useless.
It will create negative impression and some may won't try the site if they have bad experience with it.
A sincere casino will make sure they are launching a pretty decent site ready for the traffic.
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March 10, 2022, 12:15:15 AM
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To the casino would like to promote here I guess they need to make sure they are on the proper board to make sure the answer of their question is related to the response of the member, one of the best is to make a good reputation here in the forum such as creating their banners, what are their objectives to easier to make insight to the members if they are good to use or not, next if they make a good quality service is releasing signature is one of the best so many members will make an option to play a gambling, most of the known casino here too using an event as the different contest can be done like an art contest, and etc.
Marketing should be standard not only on this industry but also in other industries as well on which exposure is a must but the most important thing is on what the site is offering about and
also design/UI/UX would really be crucial when it comes to overall possible success that you could get into this market. Exposure would be useless if the site offering and appearance
isnt really that good thats why you should really be putting emphasis or focus on this one.

It is worth to promote a casino or any project if the platform itself is ready.
But if the casino is still in the development stage and still a lot of things to be fix on the site, promotion is just useless.
It will create negative impression and some may won't try the site if they have bad experience with it.
A sincere casino will make sure they are launching a pretty decent site ready for the traffic.
I have seen several sites do make out some launching but it wasnt still completed or havent finished up yet which it is true that
instead they would get some good feedbacks they would rather get negative ones which it is really just common sense that they do
need to finish it up first before launching because it would really be still prone to bugs plus the design isnt really still good to look at.
Dont know on where they do get this kind of mindset on launching up too early.

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March 10, 2022, 01:16:55 AM
 #85

I have seen several sites do make out some launching but it wasnt still completed or havent finished up yet which it is true that
instead they would get some good feedbacks they would rather get negative ones which it is really just common sense that they do
need to finish it up first before launching because it would really be still prone to bugs plus the design isnt really still good to look at.
Dont know on where they do get this kind of mindset on launching up too early.
It looks like they need to change their strategy because if other sites do the same, they will find it difficult to thrive.
Maybe they can invite a few people to see their site before it launches so they can know if it's worth launching or if there's something else that needs improvement.
It would be better because they can get suggestions to provide comfort for its users.
But, if the site is 90% ready, I guess it's fine to launch here and they will most likely get some good feedback and, of course, all sorts of suggestions.
And if they can follow those suggestions, I'm sure their site will thrive too.

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March 10, 2022, 05:31:47 AM
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6, 2, 3, and 1 are very important things does an owner of a casino/ or site has before they post it here. Like you said introducing a casino/ gambling site is not a joke, so they need to finish and have a good capital to start their casino. And to introduce it here they must buy a copper membership first in order to post an image to made their ann thread a formal announcement thread.

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March 10, 2022, 06:25:13 AM
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I completely agree with this guide.

It is really valuable for anyone looking to start in this space because I see so many projects that are undercapitalized and starting out these days.

It's simply unfeasible for people to be able to copy templates and expect actual clients to sign up to their site. Sure, this would have worked back in 2012, but not a decade later. People also seem to not realize that building trust is instrumental in starting out a new casino, and it's often good to show a proof of reserve.

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March 10, 2022, 06:57:19 AM
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This is a really good guides for people who are trying to open up their gambling site because sometimes they miss some important parts which ruined their business at early stage because I see most of the new provably fair developers would setup their gambling site without plans and ruin their business in less than a year that's why it is important to consider all things including the promotion, bankrolls and legality.

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March 10, 2022, 09:01:53 PM
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I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.
To start any business you need funds there is no denial in that but if you have a team and willing to take the part of their salary from the profits then you can start with minimal funds. If you don't have a team or don't have funds to hire the required team then what you are saying will be relevant, get the money first before starting the business.
It is true that many billion dollar businesses and industries have been born this way, and a perfect example of this is bitcoin, as far as we know Satoshi did everything on his own without any financial support and now the whole market is worth 1.75 trillion dollars.

However there are businesses that require a significant amount of starting capital, and casinos are one of those businesses, this is because even if you could do everything on your own you still need enough capital so you can pay your customers in the case they win big at your casino.

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March 10, 2022, 10:57:07 PM
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I have seen several sites do make out some launching but it wasnt still completed or havent finished up yet which it is true that
instead they would get some good feedbacks they would rather get negative ones which it is really just common sense that they do
need to finish it up first before launching because it would really be still prone to bugs plus the design isnt really still good to look at.
Dont know on where they do get this kind of mindset on launching up too early.
It looks like they need to change their strategy because if other sites do the same, they will find it difficult to thrive.
Maybe they can invite a few people to see their site before it launches so they can know if it's worth launching or if there's something else that needs improvement.
It would be better because they can get suggestions to provide comfort for its users.
But, if the site is 90% ready, I guess it's fine to launch here and they will most likely get some good feedback and, of course, all sorts of suggestions.
And if they can follow those suggestions, I'm sure their site will thrive too.
Some sites might be considering on launching early which is truly their intention on which the community could give out some feedbacks which key
areas do really need out  some improvement which it is also a considerable step for someone to run up some business but we know that it is
much preferable if we do directly engage or play on a site which is 100% be done or complete and having some minimal issues as possible.

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I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.
To start any business you need funds there is no denial in that but if you have a team and willing to take the part of their salary from the profits then you can start with minimal funds. If you don't have a team or don't have funds to hire the required team then what you are saying will be relevant, get the money first before starting the business.
It is true that many billion dollar businesses and industries have been born this way, and a perfect example of this is bitcoin, as far as we know Satoshi did everything on his own without any financial support and now the whole market is worth 1.75 trillion dollars.

However there are businesses that require a significant amount of starting capital, and casinos are one of those businesses, this is because even if you could do everything on your own you still need enough capital so you can pay your customers in the case they win big at your casino.
Bitcoin os neither a company nor a business so I don't want to compare it with busines but we have lot other examples even Google can be the best example and Amazon both started from scratch with very minimum capital but now became the biggest companies of thid world.

Ofcourse you need atleast few hundred thousand dollars to start casino then only you can attract people by introducing more promotion and contest.

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Just stumbled onto this thread and I am impressed with the manner in which you presented so much useful information op. You clearly did your research. This particular thread needs to be stickied in the gambling board in my opinion.

Many crypto gambling sites fail primarily because they don't follow most of the steps that you highlighted effectively and efficiently.

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I have seen several sites do make out some launching but it wasnt still completed or havent finished up yet which it is true that
instead they would get some good feedbacks they would rather get negative ones which it is really just common sense that they do
need to finish it up first before launching because it would really be still prone to bugs plus the design isnt really still good to look at.
Dont know on where they do get this kind of mindset on launching up too early.
It looks like they need to change their strategy because if other sites do the same, they will find it difficult to thrive.
Maybe they can invite a few people to see their site before it launches so they can know if it's worth launching or if there's something else that needs improvement.
It would be better because they can get suggestions to provide comfort for its users.
But, if the site is 90% ready, I guess it's fine to launch here and they will most likely get some good feedback and, of course, all sorts of suggestions.
And if they can follow those suggestions, I'm sure their site will thrive too.
Some sites might be considering on launching early which is truly their intention on which the community could give out some feedbacks which key
areas do really need out  some improvement which it is also a considerable step for someone to run up some business but we know that it is
much preferable if we do directly engage or play on a site which is 100% be done or complete and having some minimal issues as possible.
If their consideration is to get feedback, I think it means a lot to them, as long as they can give good results after they get feedback from us.
We have seen several newly launched gambling sites and many of us give advice to them and many of those gambling sites can fix what is lacking, add something that can be useful for the site and its members, and so on.
That is one example of a gambling site that pays attention to suggestions, input, and criticism from us to improve their performance and compete with other gambling sites.

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This is a really good guides for people who are trying to open up their gambling site because sometimes they miss some important parts which ruined their business at early stage because I see most of the new provably fair developers would setup their gambling site without plans and ruin their business in less than a year that's why it is important to consider all things including the promotion, bankrolls and legality.
Provably fair developers? but majority of the new gambling sites are not even provably fair or they are only lying and claims that their site is provably fair but it's actually not because it can be checked out easily by using some tools or so called verifiers.

I do not know if what is the background of the op but he does a good job here on listing the things that is needed for a new gambling site. He seems to think better and more serious than those who are owning a gambling site or is planning on creating one. It's okay if a new gambling site miss some things because they are still new anyway but they can always improve overtime if they are dedicated.
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Just stumbled onto this thread and I am impressed with the manner in which you presented so much useful information op. You clearly did your research. This particular thread needs to be stickied in the gambling board in my opinion.

Many crypto gambling sites fail primarily because they don't follow most of the steps that you highlighted effectively and efficiently.
Not that really necessary because as a business owner then it would really be just a standard thing that you would really need to put focus into these factors specially on marketing but of course it would

really be that much depending on the total operability of your site whether its 100% or still incomplete because there are times which sites do launch without being that fully developed
which is a bummer. It is not necessary for this information to be stickied out because it is part of your responsibility on finding out things what are the things that would be
good for your business.

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The biggest problem a new gambler faces when it comes to gambling is how to find a trusted gambling website. For various reasons, they are not aware of the things to look for in order to find a trusted website for a new gambler. As a result, bad reputation gambling websites are still running their business without any problems. However, if a player reads your information, he will not fall into the trap of those bad reputation websites. This thread will be helpful for many crypto gamblers.

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I have seen several sites do make out some launching but it wasnt still completed or havent finished up yet which it is true that
instead they would get some good feedbacks they would rather get negative ones which it is really just common sense that they do
need to finish it up first before launching because it would really be still prone to bugs plus the design isnt really still good to look at.
Dont know on where they do get this kind of mindset on launching up too early.
It looks like they need to change their strategy because if other sites do the same, they will find it difficult to thrive.
Maybe they can invite a few people to see their site before it launches so they can know if it's worth launching or if there's something else that needs improvement.
It would be better because they can get suggestions to provide comfort for its users.
But, if the site is 90% ready, I guess it's fine to launch here and they will most likely get some good feedback and, of course, all sorts of suggestions.
And if they can follow those suggestions, I'm sure their site will thrive too.
Some sites might be considering on launching early which is truly their intention on which the community could give out some feedbacks which key
areas do really need out  some improvement which it is also a considerable step for someone to run up some business but we know that it is
much preferable if we do directly engage or play on a site which is 100% be done or complete and having some minimal issues as possible.
If their consideration is to get feedback, I think it means a lot to them, as long as they can give good results after they get feedback from us.
We have seen several newly launched gambling sites and many of us give advice to them and many of those gambling sites can fix what is lacking, add something that can be useful for the site and its members, and so on.
That is one example of a gambling site that pays attention to suggestions, input, and criticism from us to improve their performance and compete with other gambling sites.
There are still sites who do still fail on getting up users despite on listening on what the community is been suggesting or advising on because overall will really matter on total demand.
Have seen some of the sites do succeed out and some of them fail to do so thats why its not an assurance of success but somewhat it is recommendable that you would launch your site
in full scale rather than on being incomplete but we know that nothing is perfect when it comes to this.

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March 12, 2022, 03:08:19 AM
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There are still sites who do still fail on getting up users despite on listening on what the community is been suggesting or advising on because overall will really matter on total demand.
Have seen some of the sites do succeed out and some of them fail to do so thats why its not an assurance of success but somewhat it is recommendable that you would launch your site
in full scale rather than on being incomplete but we know that nothing is perfect when it comes to this.
Yes, you are right. Maybe it's because there was a misunderstanding between the team that worked on it and the one who suggested it didn't work.
At the very least, our suggestions can help the site get or improve its performance in the promotion and, of course, provide opportunities for them to get more members.
Suggestions and criticisms will make the site grow because the site can pay attention to what is missing and what needs to be added.
But I believe that if the team really does a good job and always pays attention to suggestions from others, they will surely see the site develop in the future and remember that time will tell.

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This post should be stickied.

So many new casinos lately and I haven't seen a lot of quality projects (perhaps one out of every 10 new ones).

A lot of amateur operators think that it is possible to have a functional site that attracts real players with no upfront bankroll investment and no customer service. This is not going to work in 2022 with so many corporate competitors that have been around for a decade or more.

New operators: understand that the space is incredibly hard to disrupt and you need to put in effort to attract any sort of client base.
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It is not necessary for this information to be stickied out because it is part of your responsibility on finding out things what are the things that would be
good for your business.
You are contradicting yourself here. It's way easier for business owners to complete their research and learn useful information if this particular thread gets stickied which is why I suggested doing the same in my previous post.

New operators: understand that the space is incredibly hard to disrupt and you need to put in effort to attract any sort of client base.
Exactly. This market is slowly and steadily getting saturated due to which it's becoming more and more difficult for new crypto gambling sites to take off successfully.

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The biggest problem a new gambler faces when it comes to gambling is how to find a trusted gambling website. For various reasons, they are not aware of the things to look for in order to find a trusted website for a new gambler. As a result, bad reputation gambling websites are still running their business without any problems. However, if a player reads your information, he will not fall into the trap of those bad reputation websites. This thread will be helpful for many crypto gamblers.
Those scam casinos rely on the naivete of the gamblers to remain in business, most people are now using social media as their main way to get information about anything they want, and as such instead of making their own research about which casino to pick they ask that question on a social media website and they receive recommendations of casinos that are scams.

However since they trust completely on what they are told they never verify at all if the casino is reliable or not, only to find out too late it was not the case, then once they begin to do their own due diligence they realize the mistake they made, but unfortunately by that time it is too late to do anything about it.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
4. Various advertisements.
All tips make sense and very good to have at least for all new casinos that will promote in this forum.
And in my personal opinion, these two points are exactly essential.
I mean, let's see most new casinos that are commonly successful at least in this forum are those that :
- Have no scam acusition
- Have Signature campaign with BTC payment (this relates to the promotion)
We know that sometimes, new casinos try to make certain promotions using their own altcoin to pay the particiants. I know that sometimes, they may be successful, as some previous casinos here. But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy

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March 16, 2022, 11:51:58 PM
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We know that sometimes, new casinos try to make certain promotions using their own altcoin to pay the particiants. I know that sometimes, they may be successful, as some previous casinos here. But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy

I agree that when it comes to the signature campaign, it is one of the best tools to promote a casino on Bitcointalk.
As for the manager, I think he is not that very important. It is enough for the casino to give high rates paid in Bitcoin and to secure the payment in escrow. This is enough to attract good posters. When it comes to choosing good posters, it is simply a matter of the time it takes to read who publishes good content and choose the best ones.

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March 17, 2022, 12:19:54 AM
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We know that sometimes, new casinos try to make certain promotions using their own altcoin to pay the particiants. I know that sometimes, they may be successful, as some previous casinos here. But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy

I agree that when it comes to the signature campaign, it is one of the best tools to promote a casino on Bitcointalk.
As for the manager, I think he is not that very important. It is enough for the casino to give high rates paid in Bitcoin and to secure the payment in escrow. This is enough to attract good posters. When it comes to choosing good posters, it is simply a matter of the time it takes to read who publishes good content and choose the best ones.
Its a been part of the tradition that whenever crypto based platforms whether gambling or any other services should really be having some exposure and advertisements on this forum itself knowing that this place had the biggest traffic in terms of crypto which it is ideal that you should run some campaigns if you are having a business which is based on crypto but of course it wont be that effective if your site
does look bad or doesnt really have any something interesting because it is the most important factor for getting some considerations or attention.

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March 17, 2022, 02:27:56 AM
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That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy
The bottom line here is that The casino needs to have More money not just for advertising or anything but you know for what?

"They Need more money to Assure the Gamblers that will play in their site about the capacity of the company to pay if chances of winning Huge Amount"

as we knew that gambling is Luck Base and they might not realize that the very moment  they opened the site? first player may win Jackpot , i know that is is rare ocassion but possibilities are there right?

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This post should be stickied.

So many new casinos lately and I haven't seen a lot of quality projects (perhaps one out of every 10 new ones).



Yes, I second that, this thread should be stickied, just last month alone we have three or four new casinos opening their announcement disregarding forum rules and guidelines, not checking other announcement threads to see what will work and what will get more interest, so instead of checking their casino, the first 10 replies are on recommendations on how to promote their casino effectively here, they should do the necessary like getting a copper account and make their announcement stand out by having a well-designed thread.

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Having a lot of money is the main capital for gambling sites to run their business because, with that money, they can pay the winners immediately. That is why casinos have to allocate all their money to their respective posts so that there is no difficulty in paying out winners. Advertising is something important to do to get more players who will play on their site and making promotions is something that is used to attract people's interest.

So all the things @OP says are interrelated and that's what all gambling business owners should pay attention to. If they can manage it well, it is hoped that no problems will occur on their gambling site.



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Thats cool, there is rule book for casino's to be publish on the forum itself. It's surely simple and short rule book the only thing is they must read it and follow it. I dont think its very big deal if the casino is honest about their business and they have enough money to get started. Any honest casino would naturally follow such rules. I have seen examples of Roobet, Duelbit, fortunejack, Winzo. They have proper circulation of marketing, budgets, social media presence, giveaways and more! I think if we go through your list then those casino's have already passed the test.  Cheesy

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Having a lot of money is the main capital for gambling sites to run their business.
Not just casinos mate, every business out there needs primarily, alot of money to strive and grow, there are lots and lots of good business and ideas that are dead today due to lack of money to bring it to life, even those that manage to come alive struggle to stay afloat due to lack of money, so money is really vital in every business.
Casinos as a business also needs alot of money for a lot of things which include, promotion, bonus, paying winners, paying workers, paying for servers and other miscallicious expenses, but then, one sure thing is that casinos make really good money from gamblers with which they are able to handle all this expense without problems, this is why many casinos are around today, if the business wasn't profitable, people won't venture into building their own casinos.

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Money and a budget is crucial. We're not just talking about the costs of setting up a casino, including license and things like that. But you also need a large budget to be able to pay out players, which is often a bigger expense than the cost of the software itself. It is not the case that everything suddenly runs automatically when you start. You should also invest money in promotions and advertisements on the forum.

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...But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
I agree that when it comes to the signature campaign, it is one of the best tools to promote a casino on Bitcointalk.
As for the manager, I think he is not that very important. It is enough for the casino to give high rates paid in Bitcoin and to secure the payment in escrow. This is enough to attract good posters. When it comes to choosing good posters, it is simply a matter of the time it takes to read who publishes good content and choose the best ones.
I said "moreover", it will commonly add the plus value because it is commonly related to trust. But the basic thing is about the payment itself that is given for the signature campaign and how long the campaign will also last. Oh yes, you're right, I forget to state also about escrow, which is also very important to make us believe in the campaign itself. This is very important, too.

That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy
The bottom line here is that The casino needs to have More money not just for advertising or anything but you know for what?
"They Need more money to Assure the Gamblers that will play in their site about the capacity of the company to pay if chances of winning Huge Amount"
A gambling platform that is seriously building and developing their platform will of course need so much money for every element to build and improve their platform to be trusted, reputable, developed, and also as what they are willing to. And of course, because of the reputation and also services that they will provide, they will also gain their best income from the suers. That is about mutual benefits.
But, what I have said and discussed above is specifically about the promotions in this forum and it is specifically about the c=signature campaign.

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What you say is true, my friend. Business owners need to calculate how much funds they have and roughly what expenses while running the business and how long they estimate can get a break-even point and start earning profits. That is important to know before the business is created so that there are no mistakes in allocating the money they have and they can focus on growing the business into a bigger one. Sometimes, these unexpected costs can be greater than the calculated costs because these could be costs that will arise during the business running.



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March 19, 2022, 03:28:42 AM
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We know that sometimes, new casinos try to make certain promotions using their own altcoin to pay the particiants. I know that sometimes, they may be successful, as some previous casinos here. But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy

I agree that when it comes to the signature campaign, it is one of the best tools to promote a casino on Bitcointalk.
As for the manager, I think he is not that very important. It is enough for the casino to give high rates paid in Bitcoin and to secure the payment in escrow. This is enough to attract good posters. When it comes to choosing good posters, it is simply a matter of the time it takes to read who publishes good content and choose the best ones.
Its a been part of the tradition that whenever crypto based platforms whether gambling or any other services should really be having some exposure and advertisements on this forum itself knowing that this place had the biggest traffic in terms of crypto which it is ideal that you should run some campaigns if you are having a business which is based on crypto but of course it wont be that effective if your site
does look bad or doesnt really have any something interesting because it is the most important factor for getting some considerations or attention.

Despite the fact that a signature campaign is an excellent marketing tool, it does not mean that it will be enough to attract gamblers.
Basic things like design, website speed and a large selection of games are of course a must.
The list mentioned in the opening post allows people with no Bitcointalk experience to complete all these marketing details here and use the forum to its fullest potential. In my opinion, this is a great guide for any casino owner.

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March 19, 2022, 04:25:59 AM
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Thats cool, there is rule book for casino's to be publish on the forum itself. It's surely simple and short rule book the only thing is they must read it and follow it. I dont think its very big deal if the casino is honest about their business and they have enough money to get started. Any honest casino would naturally follow such rules. I have seen examples of Roobet, Duelbit, fortunejack, Winzo. They have proper circulation of marketing, budgets, social media presence, giveaways and more! I think if we go through your list then those casino's have already passed the test.  Cheesy

Money: Well, gambling itself is all about the money. Thats the first thing everyone visit the casino's.
I do hope it's pinned here in this board for new casinos to follow and read it and wouldn't be buried with hundred of other threads that generates here. What you cited as an example are an established one and yes consider them to have that since they've grown exponentially in terms of exposure. Casinos are all about money and that's a blatant fact, I wonder if there's other word that's connect them perfectly with the word money, maybe leisure as best but still - it's money.
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March 19, 2022, 06:54:19 AM
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Not all casino gambling have to pass KYC procedure because usually I active on STAKE.COM casino site without have to KYC for begin on casino gambling, I know you give announcement early for participant or member have ready with KYC procedure but many casino gambling member looks not agree for passing KYC on gambling platform, maybe you can give way which one several casino gambling site trough without KYC for member and I see on gambling platform forum many vote and opinion they not agree with KYC rule.
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March 19, 2022, 07:45:42 AM
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Not all casino gambling have to pass KYC procedure because usually I active on STAKE.COM casino site without have to KYC for begin on casino gambling, I know you give announcement early for participant or member have ready with KYC procedure but many casino gambling member looks not agree for passing KYC on gambling platform, maybe you can give way which one several casino gambling site trough without KYC for member and I see on gambling platform forum many vote and opinion they not agree with KYC rule.

OP does not claim in its guide that KYC should be required, just suggests that the casino should be licensed and that is synonymous with requiring KYC verification.
When it comes to Stake.com, you are wrong, because this casino also has a rule in its terms of service that it can request KYC verification from you at any time.

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March 19, 2022, 08:32:53 AM
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What you say is true, my friend. Business owners need to calculate how much funds they have and roughly what expenses while running the business and how long they estimate can get a break-even point and start earning profits. That is important to know before the business is created so that there are no mistakes in allocating the money they have and they can focus on growing the business into a bigger one. Sometimes, these unexpected costs can be greater than the calculated costs because these could be costs that will arise during the business running.

I agree, any company in today's world needs to do financial forecasts. Casinos don't differ in that form from other companies. Without reliable forecasts what the costs, what the expected deposit and withdrawals, what returns and what the taxes will be, a casino can just gamble to make a profit. Forecasts are also be a good tool to help in identifying the optimal strategy for the next month. For example, if higher withdrawals are expected in the future than it would make sense to offer a new promotion and attract new customers. The most important step for a successful casino is to keep existing customers happy and active. Every casino can run a promotion for new gamblers and attract a lot of one time depositors, but what helps to keep the casino profitable is that the gamblers play regularly. For that a casino need to have some benefits, like a ranking for VIP players, the more they gamble the higher their rake. Also it's important to have an fast responding customer support team that helps gamblers with all their problems.
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March 19, 2022, 08:21:33 PM
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Money and a budget is crucial. We're not just talking about the costs of setting up a casino, including license and things like that. But you also need a large budget to be able to pay out players, which is often a bigger expense than the cost of the software itself. It is not the case that everything suddenly runs automatically when you start. You should also invest money in promotions and advertisements on the forum.

Yeah this is a good point.

I see a lot of undercapitalised projects that are popping up left and right.

Some of them even have the audacity to ask for investor funds to get their idea started, even though they have nothing at all to begin with.

You NEED to ensure that your bankroll is well funded, your marketing is done well etc. all before you do your public launch. It's basic common sense in starting ANY business.
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March 20, 2022, 04:27:49 PM
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Money and a budget is crucial. We're not just talking about the costs of setting up a casino, including license and things like that. But you also need a large budget to be able to pay out players, which is often a bigger expense than the cost of the software itself. It is not the case that everything suddenly runs automatically when you start. You should also invest money in promotions and advertisements on the forum.

What you mentioned is definitely true- without a big budget and capital, the casino is bound to fail at some points since it will not be able to efficiently withdraw cash of its players. With this problem in mind, this will most likely result to withdrawal and account issues which would be the downfall of the casino.

Along with a sizeable and relatively large capital, I think having a good and active customer support service is vital to the success of an online gambling casino. Given that it exists solely on the internet, gamblers from all over the world would be messaging and communicating with them on a daily basis.

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March 20, 2022, 05:29:18 PM
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That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy
The bottom line here is that The casino needs to have More money not just for advertising or anything but you know for what?

"They Need more money to Assure the Gamblers that will play in their site about the capacity of the company to pay if chances of winning Huge Amount"

as we knew that gambling is Luck Base and they might not realize that the very moment  they opened the site? first player may win Jackpot , i know that is is rare ocassion but possibilities are there right?

I'm pretty sure most bitcoin casinos in such case would default and shut down just to remake the site under a new name.
Think about it. You make a new site, start advertising and you get first few clients out of which somebody wins big like 50k in bitcoin and you have no reviews, no reputation to protect, no vip clients or anything. There's not much to lose. You shut down and remake the site. It's going to be much cheaper than 50k.

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Your information is helpful. Money is very important for starting any kind of business and money must be spent. Be it gambling business or anything else. In addition, every business must have a valid license. This is the key to business.

However, if the business is gambling related then these are a must have because gamblers have invested a lot of money so they are essential for the safety of their money.

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March 20, 2022, 06:19:49 PM
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Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC.
Number 8 caught my eye, and I agree with you that we don't like mandatory KYC especially when it comes to the use of cryptocurrencies which was a product marketed under anonymity but in the case of licensing doesn't this require the casino or sports book carries out anti money laundering (AML) checks which means KYC on its customers??

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Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC.
Number 8 caught my eye, and I agree with you that we don't like mandatory KYC especially when it comes to the use of cryptocurrencies which was a product marketed under anonymity but in the case of licensing doesn't this require the casino or sports book carries out anti money laundering (AML) checks which means KYC on its customers??

Most casinos with gambling license are only requiring KYC from its players if they exceed certain deposit limit like $2k.
It depends on the casino's requirements here. But what I encountered here is that if you are just a small time bettor, you won't submit KYC.
Unless, they are seeing some unusual activity on your account. Or you got your big winnings exceeding their limits.
But to make sure you will not lose your funds, be prepared for your KYC if it is stated on their terms.
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March 21, 2022, 12:19:55 AM
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I'm pretty sure most bitcoin casinos in such case would default and shut down just to remake the site under a new name.
Think about it. You make a new site, start advertising and you get first few clients out of which somebody wins big like 50k in bitcoin and you have no reviews, no reputation to protect, no vip clients or anything. There's not much to lose. You shut down and remake the site. It's going to be much cheaper than 50k.

Have several ideas how to get many client with casino gambling without pay much money for advertising, first make as give away before casino is opening by giving offer with deposit bonus, beside advertising is best promoting how to get many member and looks depending and keep profitable with clients getting than pay for advertiser. But right now have many smartest gambler and he know how to check reputation some gambling platform before active for gambling. They will not really trusted with new site actually as easy and domain ID is most important with gambling platform reputation.

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I guess KYC will be okay for crypto gamblers as long as they can win a lot of money. But most crypto gamblers are small gamblers who rarely get big wins in one game or several times playing gambling. And luckily, gambling sites understand that very well and they don't ask their users to complete KYC because they haven't reached the limit they have set. It's also a benefit for those of us who can play anonymously without going through the KYC process because we only gamble in small amounts and our winnings may not be more than $1,000.



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Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC.
Number 8 caught my eye, and I agree with you that we don't like mandatory KYC especially when it comes to the use of cryptocurrencies which was a product marketed under anonymity but in the case of licensing doesn't this require the casino or sports book carries out anti money laundering (AML) checks which means KYC on its customers??
I guess KYC will be okay for crypto gamblers as long as they can win a lot of money. But most crypto gamblers are small gamblers who rarely get big wins in one game or several times playing gambling. And luckily, gambling sites understand that very well and they don't ask their users to complete KYC because they haven't reached the limit they have set. It's also a benefit for those of us who can play anonymously without going through the KYC process because we only gamble in small amounts and our winnings may not be more than $1,000.
Wrong , most of the Crypto gamblers hates to comply In KYC requirements that is why Most of the KYC gambling site is not fully supported by crypto gamblers (at least inside this forum ) because we wanted to maintain our privacy and of course security .
Yeah there are big companies here that has many players even they have KYC setting but most of them started operating without KC they have just comply to the obligation depend in which country they are operating so now they upgrade to KYC.









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Yes, most crypto gamblers hate to comply with KYC requirements, but if they win big, they inevitably have to complete the KYC requirements, right?

Maintaining privacy is fine, but it also depends on how much money you use to gamble. And most of us forget about this and instead use more money and lose. If they win and the casino demands them to complete KYC, many of them don't want to do it, even though in the TOS, it is written that you are limited by X amount to deposit or withdraw. More than the amount, you need to do KYC. Otherwise, your account will be frozen temporarily.

Sooner or later, when the government wants to interfere deeper in the crypto world, the casino and other businesses will apply KYC with medium or strict rules for people who use big funds. Are you ready, especially if you use big money to gamble?



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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
4. Various advertisements.
All tips make sense and very good to have at least for all new casinos that will promote in this forum.
And in my personal opinion, these two points are exactly essential.
I mean, let's see most new casinos that are commonly successful at least in this forum are those that :
- Have no scam acusition
- Have Signature campaign with BTC payment (this relates to the promotion)
We know that sometimes, new casinos try to make certain promotions using their own altcoin to pay the particiants. I know that sometimes, they may be successful, as some previous casinos here. But, mostly, they will not be as good as those that have BTC payment signature campaign directly, moroever managed by the popular Bounty Manager.
That is why, the casino should have much money to do these campaigns.  Cheesy
Compared to other services they need to pay a signature campaign is not a big deal for most casinos, after all when we consider the amount of money they need to pay for a fast host, their gambling games, programmers and customer service a signature campaign seems like the cheapest of all the costs that the owner of the casino can incur.

However even if advertising in other platforms has gained a lot of relevance during the last years, it is clear that casinos give a lot of weight to the reputation and the marketing they have in this forum, as having a negative reputation here can be the deciding factor between achieving the success they want or not.

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Money and a budget is crucial. We're not just talking about the costs of setting up a casino, including license and things like that. But you also need a large budget to be able to pay out players, which is often a bigger expense than the cost of the software itself. It is not the case that everything suddenly runs automatically when you start. You should also invest money in promotions and advertisements on the forum.
that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.

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that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.
Weak finances have forced some casino owners to shut down their platforms because they can't afford the gamblers' winnings. It has happened quite often that owners have had to deal with fraudulent charges for not being able to pay the winners.

Owners can't just hope to collect as much money as possible from losing players and pay out other players' winnings, without enough money they're more likely to run away faster. But there are still owners who will take this way to make money off other people's losses, so we really should consider new casinos to analyze before playing big.

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that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.
Weak finances have forced some casino owners to shut down their platforms because they can't afford the gamblers' winnings. It has happened quite often that owners have had to deal with fraudulent charges for not being able to pay the winners.

Owners can't just hope to collect as much money as possible from losing players and pay out other players' winnings, without enough money they're more likely to run away faster. But there are still owners who will take this way to make money off other people's losses, so we really should consider new casinos to analyze before playing big.
What happens is that there are some equations which allow you to calculate something called your risk of bankruptcy, what they do is to tell you how much can you allow a gambler to bet as a max bet so your casino never faces any possibility of bankruptcy.

But many casino operators do not know about those formulas, so they allow their gamblers to use too much money on each bet and if they are unlucky then a gambler will hit a huge jackpot before they get the capital necessary to reduce the risk of bankruptcy to zero, and as such they have to eventually close their doors and be forever known as scammers as they cannot pay the gambler the money they won legitimately.

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that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.
Weak finances have forced some casino owners to shut down their platforms because they can't afford the gamblers' winnings. It has happened quite often that owners have had to deal with fraudulent charges for not being able to pay the winners.

Owners can't just hope to collect as much money as possible from losing players and pay out other players' winnings, without enough money they're more likely to run away faster. But there are still owners who will take this way to make money off other people's losses, so we really should consider new casinos to analyze before playing big.
What happens is that there are some equations which allow you to calculate something called your risk of bankruptcy, what they do is to tell you how much can you allow a gambler to bet as a max bet so your casino never faces any possibility of bankruptcy.

But many casino operators do not know about those formulas, so they allow their gamblers to use too much money on each bet and if they are unlucky then a gambler will hit a huge jackpot before they get the capital necessary to reduce the risk of bankruptcy to zero, and as such they have to eventually close their doors and be forever known as scammers as they cannot pay the gambler the money they won legitimately.

I have seen several casinos applying the max bet for their sportsbetting.
This option is good to avoid total bankruptcy in case, there will be big winnings.
Bankroll is very important for any casino to sustain their operations.
But once they overcome this aspect, it is how they treat their players that will be another factor for their longevity.
If they are indeed serious in this business, they will take care of their players accordingly.
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that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.
Weak finances have forced some casino owners to shut down their platforms because they can't afford the gamblers' winnings. It has happened quite often that owners have had to deal with fraudulent charges for not being able to pay the winners.

Owners can't just hope to collect as much money as possible from losing players and pay out other players' winnings, without enough money they're more likely to run away faster. But there are still owners who will take this way to make money off other people's losses, so we really should consider new casinos to analyze before playing big.
What happens is that there are some equations which allow you to calculate something called your risk of bankruptcy, what they do is to tell you how much can you allow a gambler to bet as a max bet so your casino never faces any possibility of bankruptcy.

But many casino operators do not know about those formulas, so they allow their gamblers to use too much money on each bet and if they are unlucky then a gambler will hit a huge jackpot before they get the capital necessary to reduce the risk of bankruptcy to zero, and as such they have to eventually close their doors and be forever known as scammers as they cannot pay the gambler the money they won legitimately.

I have seen several casinos applying the max bet for their sportsbetting.
This option is good to avoid total bankruptcy in case, there will be big winnings.
Bankroll is very important for any casino to sustain their operations.
But once they overcome this aspect, it is how they treat their players that will be another factor for their longevity.
If they are indeed serious in this business, they will take care of their players accordingly.
Bankroll management as a business owner would really be crucial and of course you would really be minding on putting up limits on max bets if you dont like for your business to be bankrupt incase there's a whale who do

win or make some big hit  which would surely hurt or would really be putting your business into problem which it is really just a default thing .
The rest would be talking about giving good service and promotions and of course they would really be minding about promotions and aggressive marketing and bonuses.

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March 28, 2022, 11:57:22 PM
Last edit: March 29, 2022, 12:09:23 AM by Desmong
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I guess KYC will be okay for crypto gamblers as long as they can win a lot of money. But most crypto gamblers are small gamblers who rarely get big wins in one game or several times playing gambling. And luckily, gambling sites understand that very well and they don't ask their users to complete KYC because they haven't reached the limit they have set. It's also a benefit for those of us who can play anonymously without going through the KYC process because we only gamble in small amounts and our winnings may not be more than $1,000.
Majority of crypto gamblers are small scale gamblers and  don't have the funds to go big. Most gambling platform now normally requires mini KYC which will be enforced during large withdrawals. Sometimes, there will be some limitations to what a gambler can do or games they can play on the platform until they do the mini KYC verification before they can enjoy better benefits of the platform.

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Only some of them are crypto gamblers who use big funds and we can only see they can win big money. As long as gamblers don't cross the limits set by the casino, I don't think gamblers should go through mini KYC like you said because the casino will still allow gamblers to withdraw their money. But if they want to withdraw a large amount of money and it goes beyond the limits of the casino, of course, the gamblers have to go through KYC and there is a possibility the KYC will have to be complete.



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Maybe I can add things like variety of games to offer or special or focused game you can offer but the more games the better. Also, transparency of the gambling site and the fairness of its games since even if the owner meets that 10 complete steps for new casino if his website is not fair I don't think it will be a successful gambling site.

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all views are valid and i think those are what gambling wannabe needs to have before venturing in this business and not just jumping to try and in the middle of the business they cannot cover the possible big wins and then will run and scam players.
they must be responsible in this area if they wanna succeed in gambling crypto business.
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all views are valid and i think those are what gambling wannabe needs to have before venturing in this business and not just jumping to try and in the middle of the business they cannot cover the possible big wins and then will run and scam players.
they must be responsible in this area if they wanna succeed in gambling crypto business.
When you are running a business then it would really be just normal that you would really be setting off some max bets if you do like for your business to be bankrupt because if not then if someone

wins big then that would surely be the end of your business since you would really be paying off those winnings and as just mentioned where usually be the case that they do end up on scamming
if they do see that they cant pay such winning which is really a very common for them to ended up on being a scam.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.

2. Read the forum rules first.
The most rules that brand new users broke are post in a row, spamming, put referral on the topic, create duplicate thread and not deleted previous bump. Though if you broke this rules you wouldn't automatically be banned, but your post most likely can be deleted by moderators. Additional tip: if you want your thread remain on Gambling board, you need to accept Bitcoin on your casino, if not your topic will be moved to service announcement (altcoins). The rules can be read here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

3. Create announcement with well organized design.
Good announcement will bring a good impression to whoever see your thread, it also show how serious and well prepared your casino it is. If you register with brand new account, your images wouldn't be visible since each rank has a restrictions. You need to upgrade your rank to Jr. Member or buy copper membership to make the images visible.

4. Various advertisements.
Welcome bonus and wager contest are the good promotions to start as new casino. But almost on any casino will have this promotions and it's really common, also the requirements is really insane to beat. Usually welcome bonus you need 40x wager with the bonus money, wager contest you need to beat high roller and isn't easy. You can other promotions with easier to require even though the reward need to reduced e.g. daily wager, lottery.

5. On forum advertisements.
Having a promotions on casinos is good, but it will be better if you have a promotions dedicated for Bitcointalk user only. Many popular casinos in this forum mostly have this and they're not stopping even they already big. In this forum you can run signature campaign, run review contest about your casino, run prediction contest, slot multiplier or even art contest. To run those contests it will be better if you hire a manager to handle that, you can see on this thread Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

9. Active on forum.
It doesn't mean you need to active 24/7, you can active once a day, once in every three days or even once a week. You need to be active since many members will ask some questions related to your casino or some people have a problem with your casino. If you ignored their problems, many people will have bad impression on your casino.

10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

Good rules but perhaps there are a few things which can be added to make the rules a bit more whole. For example, before having money, you can still advertise your project in development. Not only does this forum provide views but a lot of skilled people are keeping an eye on your development. And maybe you could raise money on the forum itself. Good place to start.

In fact, rule 1 should only apply to established gambling casinos. Not newbies.

At least thats how I see it.


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that is the major role of Money that's why having a gambling site needs really a High budget and independent way of management .
because what is the most important part is not advertising because gamblers will enter your site even without massive Ads , but without funds to make withdrawal will surely end your business and may bring you behind the bars .
so let it be to owners that must be millionaire before engaging in gambling business because we don't know what will happen tot he first bettors if they will make good luck or will end up a loser.
Weak finances have forced some casino owners to shut down their platforms because they can't afford the gamblers' winnings. It has happened quite often that owners have had to deal with fraudulent charges for not being able to pay the winners.

Owners can't just hope to collect as much money as possible from losing players and pay out other players' winnings, without enough money they're more likely to run away faster. But there are still owners who will take this way to make money off other people's losses, so we really should consider new casinos to analyze before playing big.
Indeed and that is why Gambling owners must understand that this business is not just profiteering but also spending , because not in all matters you will win against the gambler because Luck sometimes seats beside them and  the jackpot knocks their door and the site will be oblige to pay them and also this is why some gambling sites accused of being scammers because they are hindering the withdrawals and obliging players to go many security terms and ending them not getting their money.

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Majority of crypto gamblers are small scale gamblers and  don't have the funds to go big. Most gambling platform now normally requires mini KYC which will be enforced during large withdrawals. Sometimes, there will be some limitations to what a gambler can do or games they can play on the platform until they do the mini KYC verification before they can enjoy better benefits of the platform.
Personally as long as the KYC verification process is still optional I do not mind if those that passed through it obtain better benefits out of the casino and have access to more games since to me it makes sense that is the case.

For example if someone goes through that process in a casino then it is way more likely that such a player is planning to play there for a long time, so the casino does the best they can to keep the players happy by giving them better offers and bonuses, to me that is completely natural and it is no different than what we have seen for decades with stores giving you loyalty points and special discounts so you keep spending your money on their store.

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Majority of crypto gamblers are small scale gamblers and  don't have the funds to go big. Most gambling platform now normally requires mini KYC which will be enforced during large withdrawals. Sometimes, there will be some limitations to what a gambler can do or games they can play on the platform until they do the mini KYC verification before they can enjoy better benefits of the platform.
Personally as long as the KYC verification process is still optional I do not mind if those that passed through it obtain better benefits out of the casino and have access to more games since to me it makes sense that is the case.

For example if someone goes through that process in a casino then it is way more likely that such a player is planning to play there for a long time, so the casino does the best they can to keep the players happy by giving them better offers and bonuses, to me that is completely natural and it is no different than what we have seen for decades with stores giving you loyalty points and special discounts so you keep spending your money on their store.

If someone is aware that KYC may be required from him then that's fine.

The point here is not that someone agrees to the KYC verification. The point is, cryptocurrency casinos should be anonymous by definition, as that is a fundamental feature of cryptocurrencies. So in my opinion license that requires KYC should not be recommended to cryptocurrency casinos.

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April 08, 2022, 08:52:39 PM
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Majority of crypto gamblers are small scale gamblers and  don't have the funds to go big. Most gambling platform now normally requires mini KYC which will be enforced during large withdrawals. Sometimes, there will be some limitations to what a gambler can do or games they can play on the platform until they do the mini KYC verification before they can enjoy better benefits of the platform.
Personally as long as the KYC verification process is still optional I do not mind if those that passed through it obtain better benefits out of the casino and have access to more games since to me it makes sense that is the case.

For example if someone goes through that process in a casino then it is way more likely that such a player is planning to play there for a long time, so the casino does the best they can to keep the players happy by giving them better offers and bonuses, to me that is completely natural and it is no different than what we have seen for decades with stores giving you loyalty points and special discounts so you keep spending your money on their store.

If someone is aware that KYC may be required from him then that's fine.

The point here is not that someone agrees to the KYC verification. The point is, cryptocurrency casinos should be anonymous by definition, as that is a fundamental feature of cryptocurrencies. So in my opinion license that requires KYC should not be recommended to cryptocurrency casinos.
Unfortunately most casinos licenses ask for casinos to have some kind of verification process under some circumstances, if you are a small stakes player you may never need to verify yourself as even if you make a big win for your standards it is not going to be a lot of money for the casino in question.

However whales will have problems gambling in any licensed casino while at the same time trying to avoid going through a KYC process, so if they want anonymity above everything else then they may need to find a unlicensed casino which has a good reputation among the members of the community.

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May 05, 2022, 02:52:42 AM
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Thanks everyone for the suggestions, especially those who said this thread should be sticked in this board. I will open a new thread on Meta board to see how it's possible to stick this thread. Looking how many new casinos always comes up and doesn't know how this forum with the promotions work, I think this thread will be important for them.

The hot discussion is about KYC matters, this is why I mentioned many people prefer to play on KYC casino even they're doesn't like to submit KYC. Look how big is Duelbits, Roobet, Stake, Sportsbet, Bitcasino, Gamdom etc (KYC casino) while most of no KYC casino is dead or no one interested e.g. LTC casino (scam), minesweeper.games, multidice etc. The only one big no KYC casino is Freebitco.in
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May 05, 2022, 01:42:43 PM
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Majority of crypto gamblers are small scale gamblers and  don't have the funds to go big. Most gambling platform now normally requires mini KYC which will be enforced during large withdrawals. Sometimes, there will be some limitations to what a gambler can do or games they can play on the platform until they do the mini KYC verification before they can enjoy better benefits of the platform.
Personally as long as the KYC verification process is still optional I do not mind if those that passed through it obtain better benefits out of the casino and have access to more games since to me it makes sense that is the case.

For example if someone goes through that process in a casino then it is way more likely that such a player is planning to play there for a long time, so the casino does the best they can to keep the players happy by giving them better offers and bonuses, to me that is completely natural and it is no different than what we have seen for decades with stores giving you loyalty points and special discounts so you keep spending your money on their store.

KYC is something that most people perceive as negative because they feel they will be loosing their anonymity and might triggers taxes or investigations. However, if you are a legit player is actually a demonstration of the casino being actually correctly registered in a law abiding jurisdiction that can actually give you confidence on the management and the law that protects your accoiunt.

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May 05, 2022, 02:22:13 PM
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The only one big no KYC casino is Freebitco.in
Maybe that's why Freebitco.in can survive until now and still get a lot of new users because they don't implement KYC at all.
With classic gambling games, Freebitco.in still attracts many new and old users to feel at home playing there.
Apart from that, Freebitco.in provides many interesting programs and rewards and this is one of the ways used by them to get more users.
And by not asking for KYC, they also get a lot of gamblers who don't want to verify their accounts with KYC.

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