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March 06, 2022, 11:29:27 AM
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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

These are some excellent tips that you put together and will help any budding casino owner who wants to get into the game. There is one thing that will be crucial to any casino or gambling operation - security. As a place where "anonymous" crypto currency is moving in and out, you will have people constantly trying to attack your site in all sorts of ingenuous ways. If you're using a pre-built clone type solution you'll probably have a bit more protection as it has been tested by others before you, however if you're using new and custom code then expect all sorts of unexpected exploits. They'll also be people who will attempt denial of service on your site, you cannot make money if it is down - so you will probably have to pay for some expensive mitigation which I guess comes back to the first point, you will need a lot of money to stay up.

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March 06, 2022, 11:39:51 AM
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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

This item 1 is usually ignored by fly-by-night casinos because they are thinking that they can lure users that will send money to their site without any question. But if you are sincere in this business, bankroll is the number 1 to be taken care of. This is why you need private investors if you can't afford to shell out your own funds. Before, if you are a new casino here, some members will ask for your bankroll amount along with the address where it is being stored at. But now, very few are disclosing this amount, so maybe, users stop inquiring about this aspect because it is hard to extract from the owners.
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1. You need to have a lot money to start.

It is emphasized and it's the most important thing when starting a casino.

With money, you'll be able to invest in the promotional need of the business, you can make your site look decent to compete with the existing ones, and with money, you can always hire people to work for you on the aspects that are necessary for running an online casino business.

Lastly, use this forum to advertise, I think it's a great idea as we have millions of users, and getting even 10% of that market is huge enough to affect the profitability of the business.

It's basic and the most important part because everything starts when you have a lot of money, the admin should not stop when he has the site ready, he should have more in the official launching because he'll have to give bonuses and giveaways and of course promotions, the hot wallet should always fill, casino operations is not a token promotion where the operation will run when investors start investing, you need to build so they will come.

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March 06, 2022, 02:47:01 PM
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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

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March 06, 2022, 03:01:29 PM
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This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

Sometimes it is hard for the casino owners to publish, maintain the ANN threads and also it is not very easy to start signature marketing campaign by themselves. What they can do preferably, is to hire an experienced manager here who can not only handle the signature campaigns for that gambling site but at the same time, he can use his resources to develop a perfect attractive ann thread.

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March 06, 2022, 03:13:26 PM
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That's a pretty good list,but most of things mentioned in the list are just common sense.
Every person(or a team),that wants to start a crypto casino is probably aware or these points.
Creating a finished and fully functional website>buying copper membership/creating good ANN post>starting a signature campaign>providing customer service and answering questions/solving problems.This is just common sense.
However,I'm overwhelmed by the amount of unprofessional announcement threads and not-fully-functional casinos being promoted here on the forum.Some people need to understand,that half-assing everything is NOT the path to success.Attention to detail is the key to every successful business.

As you wrote yourself, these are pretty basic rules that every casino should follow, but you have also noticed that many of them don't do that. This is why this guide is so important - for those who don't know it.
From my observations, many casino owners are unaware of Bitcointalk's marketing potential. If this is the case, then they should either read and learn all the points presented by the OP very well, or hire a person who has good experience on the forum.

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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

This point contradicts with itself. Casinos do KYC because they have gambling licenses, it is not the other way around. Freebitco.in has no licenses and they don't do any KYC at all.

On the other hand, all the other casinos that have licenses hace KYC in their T.O.S. Not all of them are enforcing KYC but they may when they wanted to.

I think it is better to have no license.

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March 06, 2022, 09:35:14 PM
Last edit: March 07, 2022, 07:18:46 AM by Accardo
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First, all the options you stated on the thread is conveyed to start up casinos like you said. And the guide will take them a long way if they have not been into the business of running a casino before. The money aspect is crucial because to run an Advert anywhere online requires huge amount of money. Op you forgot to state that the process won't be as fast as most of them will think. Because despite having the money, so many users here already got their favorite online casinos and to convert them to play a new casino will be difficult. In addition, they are expected to have patience and watch their platform grow gradually. Until they are satisfied with the number of users that will join their platform. This can take years to achieve.

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March 06, 2022, 10:04:17 PM
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8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

This point contradicts with itself. Casinos do KYC because they have gambling licenses, it is not the other way around. Freebitco.in has no licenses and they don't do any KYC at all.

On the other hand, all the other casinos that have licenses hace KYC in their T.O.S. Not all of them are enforcing KYC but they may when they wanted to.

I think it is better to have no license.

As for cryptocurrency casinos, in my opinion they should not require KYC verification. However, on the other hand, if they want to operate legally in the place where they are registered, then the license and thus verification may be mandatory. Simply, casinos should make a decision about how they want to operate before registering. Later, it is up to gamblers whether they want to choose a licensed casino or play anonymously in casinos without a license. I prefer casinos without KYC verification, so without a license.


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March 06, 2022, 11:20:56 PM
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Great advises and hopefully the new casinos will take time on reading and analyzing on which part they lacking. In the past, I've seen those threads that have been posted and made but upon looking at their website, they're incomplete and not yet finished and not yet ready to launch.
It is an important thing that before they launch, everything is prepared and well done so that their customers are going to see that they've been made well and not just toying around with possible deposits that will be made.

If the casino itself is sincere in launching their gambling business, they won't publish their site half-way of their development. Because this will give a not-so-good first impression to players. Also, it will give a notion that they are in a hurry to possibly attract naive players. If you are here in the forum long enough, you already know by now how to spot substandard casinos. If you are a casino owner, before launching your platform, more than likely, you also did your tons of research especially if you are venturing the crypto casinos.
But out of excitement probably, that's why they're announcing a portion of their casino before the launching. It's not yet finish and they're telling it but what the gamblers want is a fully-finished casino where is ready to deposit and withdraw funds upon winning. Not just a portion of it and then a need to wait until it's wholly done. It's like a trailer and a peek for them to show to the possible gamblers that would like to play on them.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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March 06, 2022, 11:32:31 PM
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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.

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March 07, 2022, 01:47:28 AM
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Let us just simplify the needs and that is to be trustworthy and be real, no hidden target and no hidden plans .

because no matter how they pretend to be a good casino but in the end everything will be broadcast as the forum members are good in searching and checking each activities of the site.
 but the points given by OP is indeed important tools if they wanted the business to stay and make a long run in this business.









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March 07, 2022, 02:36:07 AM
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Very good post mate, but I believe number 6 rule isn't supposed to the among the rules, cus how would someone in his or her right mind would launch a promotion for a casino which it's website isn't even ready? That is totally absurd and a real waste of resources(money), common sense should tell one the casino owner(s) that rule number six is a must and as such, it's shouldn't be in the list.
And also business without money is as good as useless and dead, just like faith without works, the Bible said is dead, he or she who is going to a business like building an online casino should have a alot of money set aside even for the unexpected, this way, you don't end up starting what you can't finish.

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Many gambling starts their platform to release in the market or the community because of course like good to go and for sure many people make a criticize on that thing such as the UI/UX and the functionality by that the gambling platform now makes an update with this issue to make a deliver a good quality of services. I guess having a KYC is still important in some points such as the level 1 KYC just the names for some security purposes. Also the withdrawal fee in terms of transaction we know that most of the gamblers don't make a large amount of money and those withdrawal fees are so much high than the current mempool. To the gambling platform would like to start just having the good UI, services and being active in the forum gives a good impact and reputation to you if you want to create.

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Let us just simplify the needs and that is to be trustworthy and be real, no hidden target and no hidden plans .

because no matter how they pretend to be a good casino but in the end everything will be broadcast as the forum members are good in searching and checking each activities of the site.
 but the points given by OP is indeed important tools if they wanted the business to stay and make a long run in this business.

Those steps are good for those starting out on their journey here in this forum but establishing their presence and reputation is a long journey they will have to be active in addressing every issue and concern and they have to render fair judgment on every issue of course launching a signature campaign and giving out bonuses and giveaways will attract attention to players, establishing a reputation is a work in progress.


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March 07, 2022, 03:56:30 AM
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Those steps are good for those starting out on their journey here in this forum but establishing their presence and reputation is a long journey they will have to be active in addressing every issue and concern and they have to render fair judgment on every issue of course launching a signature campaign and giving out bonuses and giveaways will attract attention to players, establishing a reputation is a work in progress.
What i found in this market over the years? is that as long as the gambling site has funds to sustain the wins of each players? and maintain their advertising in this forum and out? yes that is more than enough for the site to stay in business and stays trustworthy .
yeah there are some troubles they might come across but the reality will keep talking and the players will support for the casino's popularity and increase depositors and bettors .

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Number 6 might be possible if he invites some beta testers to see if the system is up and running as desired because the owner and the team need to know what's going on from the user's side. If something doesn't look good, they can fix it. So before launching the casino to the public, they are ready with everything and there will be no problem, especially if they immediately want to promote.

But indeed, building an online casino must have a lot of money to ensure that their site is ready to be launched, and they need to think about how much money they have to prepare for promotion.

@OP wrote that number 6 should be in the online casino so that people can see if the casino can indeed provide comfort in playing gambling.



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To the casino would like to promote here I guess they need to make sure they are on the proper board to make sure the answer of their question is related to the response of the member, one of the best is to make a good reputation here in the forum such as creating their banners, what are their objectives to easier to make insight to the members if they are good to use or not, next if they make a good quality service is releasing signature is one of the best so many members will make an option to play a gambling, most of the known casino here too using an event as the different contest can be done like an art contest, and etc.

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To start a casino first they need good team who can solve any technical issues and make their site complete before starting any promotional works because if there is any glitch the iser or the casino might lose huge money. Be transparent is what the next option I will choose, which will gain trust and attract more investors so the casino can grow bigger since its not really possible to grow with your own money alone.

Then add games which is unique so user can play on your casino, if its just same as others it will take too long to bring the traffic.

I would probably have to disagree with you on the matter of what you need first, in order to start your casino. You need funds to start anything. Without funds, you have no team, no marketing, no anything. So securing people who would invest their time and money on you is hard. Its easier to convince a team of people to join your project if you have seed capital. Nobody is going to convinced by a guy with amazing promises and equity offers.

Thats really the hard part. Getting the first money.
To start any business you need funds there is no denial in that but if you have a team and willing to take the part of their salary from the profits then you can start with minimal funds. If you don't have a team or don't have funds to hire the required team then what you are saying will be relevant, get the money first before starting the business.

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Note: This thread intended for new casinos, that's why it's posted on Gambling board.


Many new casinos doesn't understand how this forum work, forum rules and how to advertise on this forum. Some casinos just started creating topic with poor plain text announcement and some might doesn't even complete developing his sites. How you can make someone move to your new casino while their old casino are better than yours? No one will want to try out your sites.We can't blame them since new accounts wouldn't recognized this forum yet, this is why I create this thread. This 10 steps will help you understand to promote your brand new casino in this forum.

1. You need to have a lot money to start.
Aside the primary cost to build up the sites, gambling software, domain subscription, coder, script, bug bounty etc. You need to have a good amount money for advertisement (full explanation below), no one will know your casino when they didn't even heard your casinos since it's still a brand new casinos.

2. Read the forum rules first.
The most rules that brand new users broke are post in a row, spamming, put referral on the topic, create duplicate thread and not deleted previous bump. Though if you broke this rules you wouldn't automatically be banned, but your post most likely can be deleted by moderators. Additional tip: if you want your thread remain on Gambling board, you need to accept Bitcoin on your casino, if not your topic will be moved to service announcement (altcoins). The rules can be read here Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

3. Create announcement with well organized design.
Good announcement will bring a good impression to whoever see your thread, it also show how serious and well prepared your casino it is. If you register with brand new account, your images wouldn't be visible since each rank has a restrictions. You need to upgrade your rank to Jr. Member or buy copper membership to make the images visible.

4. Various advertisements.
Welcome bonus and wager contest are the good promotions to start as new casino. But almost on any casino will have this promotions and it's really common, also the requirements is really insane to beat. Usually welcome bonus you need 40x wager with the bonus money, wager contest you need to beat high roller and isn't easy. You can other promotions with easier to require even though the reward need to reduced e.g. daily wager, lottery.

5. On forum advertisements.
Having a promotions on casinos is good, but it will be better if you have a promotions dedicated for Bitcointalk user only. Many popular casinos in this forum mostly have this and they're not stopping even they already big. In this forum you can run signature campaign, run review contest about your casino, run prediction contest, slot multiplier or even art contest. To run those contests it will be better if you hire a manager to handle that, you can see on this thread Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

6. Make sure your site is already finished.
Announcing your casino but your site still under development will make people doesn't want to try your sites since it's not completed yet and worried if there's a bug. You need to have at least: Terms and Conditions, Privacy Policy, FAQ, Live support, Social media, and Provably fair verifier. It's not funny when you don't even wrote any rules and when someone want to withdraw his money, you suspect him abusing your system etc and you ask him to submit KYC. Obviously no one will ever want to play anymore.

7. Don't be too strict about your rules.
Many people really want a friendly casino which doesn't really strict about their rules. Don't directly suspect broke your rules someone when they win huge amount, you need to accept it since you offer such odds and  maximum bet. If you still suspect someone abusing your rules, you need to prepare the proof to prove it. If not, no one will believe since you're new casino and doesn't have any reputation yet.

8. Get a gambling license.
Many people doesn't like to submit KYC, but they're prefer a casino having license even KYC is mandatory rather than a casino doesn't have license but offer no KYC. This because no KYC casino doesn't offer promotions due to easily to abuse, unlike a KYC casino will have various promotions. Of course you shouldn't ask KYC to anyone as long as they're not abusing your casino. You also shouldn't allow someone can deposit but they need to submit KYC to able withdraw the funds, this is worst.

9. Active on forum.
It doesn't mean you need to active 24/7, you can active once a day, once in every three days or even once a week. You need to be active since many members will ask some questions related to your casino or some people have a problem with your casino. If you ignored their problems, many people will have bad impression on your casino.

10. Don't try to use paid shills or bumping service.
Having a thread shown in the first page or even first row will make your casino will be visible to anyone which visited gambling board. But don't try to use paid shills or bumping service to make your thread remain on the first row, this isn't good advertisement and many people will think your casino is scummy or rug pull project, don't try to abuse this forum system.

This is based on my own observations around popular casinos in this forum, this forum doesn't endorse/force new casinos to have good announcement or run advertisements (e.g. signature campaign, contest etc).

tl;dr you need to have huge money to start new casino, understand the forum rules, prepare good announcement, finished your sites with complete informations, be active, run various advertisements, don't too strict, don't hire paid shills, and have a licenses.

I very much agree with number 6. I've stumbled upon many thread and post here before up until this date regarding this. Some people tend to promote and advertise their site despite the fact that is isn't finished yet. How could you gather and entice customer and players to your website if the mere site itself isn't functioning right just yet? If the website is still lacking and isn't really done that it's good to be seen and accessed upon, I suggest you rather not broadcast it yet because the opposite of what you're trying to do will going to happen. Instead of people flocking in your website, they will ignore and get away from it. Because you should offer a good and quality service and not just the so-so. The clients should get the worth of the buck they would pay for. If you are a casino businessman or planning to build one, you should definitely take note of this. You could ask for suggestions while wrapping things up. But don't publicize it yet if it's not thoroughly done.
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