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March 11, 2022, 09:50:14 PM
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Let's not jump the gun here.

I think that there are certainly a lot of improvements that could be made when it comes to the traditional/crypto gambling industry, voluntary self exclusion being one of the things that never seems to get enforced 100% of the time.

Note that this is not always the casino's fault, as players often try to circumvent these measures themselves.

But yes, media depiction of gambling is almost always negative and these fringe cases really paint the industry in a bad light. Hopefully this changes.
I have always wondered why is this the case? Why the media portrayal of casinos and gamblers is always so negative? After all if a person wants to spend some of the money they have earned through their own effort in gambling games then that is their decision and no one else has the right to question them, now it is true that people can get addicted to gambling but the majority of the people can gamble responsibly without any problem, and yet the depictions of the industry are always negative for some reason.
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March 11, 2022, 11:52:59 PM
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Let's not jump the gun here.

I think that there are certainly a lot of improvements that could be made when it comes to the traditional/crypto gambling industry, voluntary self exclusion being one of the things that never seems to get enforced 100% of the time.

Note that this is not always the casino's fault, as players often try to circumvent these measures themselves.

But yes, media depiction of gambling is almost always negative and these fringe cases really paint the industry in a bad light. Hopefully this changes.
I have always wondered why is this the case? Why the media portrayal of casinos and gamblers is always so negative? After all if a person wants to spend some of the money they have earned through their own effort in gambling games then that is their decision and no one else has the right to question them, now it is true that people can get addicted to gambling but the majority of the people can gamble responsibly without any problem, and yet the depictions of the industry are always negative for some reason.

because media is highlighting the negative consequences owed to gambling. very few articles will tackle the positive side of gambling. in most cases, only the negative ones are being published. moderate gambling may do good with your mental health but if you are already deep into it and you resort to some other activities not deemed to be normal, that's when you will start having issues with gambling.
but on this case, i guess, parents should not totally hold the bad fate of his son to gambling. there's more than meets the eyes here. they should start asking, why their son was hooked into gambling? am not in anyway blaming anyone here, but people should know the real score here.

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March 11, 2022, 11:59:21 PM
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One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is indebt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.
Some parents are too busy to monitor their kids each day but how come they didn't even know just for once on what was their sons been doing? I agree they can't just blame it to the casino if it's their fault for not always available to their son since gambling is a big responsibility once you are in it.

Parents know this if they were responsible enough for their son but now it's too late they just throw the blame because of their fault in the first place. It wouldn't happen if most parents would know how to take care of their children.

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March 12, 2022, 12:29:00 AM
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I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Yes, the parents are the first culprits, but they have already paid for it with the death of their child.
But gambling houses and especially governments are also largely to blame for this, and have they already paid? Certainly not.

Governments receive a huge share of casino profits and spend very little of it on measures to prevent and educate people against gambling addiction.

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March 12, 2022, 02:17:49 AM
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because media is highlighting the negative consequences owed to gambling. very few articles will tackle the positive side of gambling. in most cases, only the negative ones are being published.
It's because negative effects in gambling weigh more than it's positive side, people see it as literal gambling than just entertainment where you can do entertain in other things than just throw away your money, that's how most people see gambling.

You will always read from media news that someone got killed, suicide, becomes poor because of gambling than someone got a winner sweepstakes, makes someone's rich it's because it's rarely happens, see the difference.

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March 12, 2022, 03:35:57 AM
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I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Yes, the parents are the first culprits, but they have already paid for it with the death of their child.
But gambling houses and especially governments are also largely to blame for this, and have they already paid? Certainly not.

Governments receive a huge share of casino profits and spend very little of it on measures to prevent and educate people against gambling addiction.
If people blame the government for not taking certain action regarding people addicted to gambling, they will answer that it is everyone's responsibility. If they have been told that gambling can cause many problems, but they continue to play, how can the government stop them from playing? Is blocking access to gambling sites solve the problem? I don't think so because, after all, those people will find a way to get back to gambling.

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March 12, 2022, 03:38:52 AM
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One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is indebt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.
Some parents are too busy to monitor their kids each day but how come they didn't even know just for once on what was their sons been doing? I agree they can't just blame it to the casino if it's their fault for not always available to their son since gambling is a big responsibility once you are in it.

Parents know this if they were responsible enough for their son but now it's too late they just throw the blame because of their fault in the first place. It wouldn't happen if most parents would know how to take care of their children.
Have some parents looks busy with their business and not have enough time with take care and controlling their kids, I think is not their mistake because all parents busy with hard working for their family, but need spent time for controlling kids exactly they have understood with internet access, checking what site have browsing by kids and they found gambling site or not, if have kids know with gambling better guide them and give educate about risk from gambling and recommended for keep waiting when they have enough age for gambling, if still under parent controlling never allow for kid active on gambling.

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March 12, 2022, 03:58:35 AM
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I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

Yes, the parents are the first culprits, but they have already paid for it with the death of their child.
But gambling houses and especially governments are also largely to blame for this, and have they already paid? Certainly not.

Governments receive a huge share of casino profits and spend very little of it on measures to prevent and educate people against gambling addiction.
Actually if they really blame gambling in this case it will only make themselves even more wrong.
The essence of a child is to get good treatment from their parents so that apart from preventing them from all bad things, the role of parents in guiding them so that they are not wrong in making decisions is also very good.
Actually this can be prevented if the addict's parents know that their child is gambling and addicted, but in this case even to the point of committing suicide they only know about it their role in taking care of the child is quite questionable.

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March 12, 2022, 04:28:18 AM
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If only parents did a good thing to their kids, the kids will also do the same but as you said it cant be long-lasting, I think I can agree with that. It's not only our parents that we see around us so we can also get other/different kinds of influences including the bad ones.
Not necessarily, parents aren't the only influence out there so even if they do good, if the kid was influenced outside by a bigger factor, then they could inevitably end up doing something contrary to what their parents were trying to teach. And in all honesty, with the existence of the internet, parents' influence can be at an absolute minimal most of the time since kids are learning on their own at a rapid pace.

Actually if they really blame gambling in this case it will only make themselves even more wrong.
Agree. An activity is not the one that's supposed to be blamed, it's always the person who does the activity, and then the person who influenced the prior person to do said activity. It's like blaming a knife for existing so that was why a killer was able to kill someone.

 
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March 12, 2022, 05:21:47 AM
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Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.
It is true that it is the responsibility of every parent to monitor the activities of their children and to keep them away from bad ways at all times. But in this case, his parents may have been under a lot of work pressure, which is why his parents did not have time to observe his activities and this is why he became addicted to gambling. But even in that case I would say that it is the fault of his parents. They should have kept an eye on the children activities as much as possible

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March 12, 2022, 10:27:17 AM
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Actually if they really blame gambling in this case it will only make themselves even more wrong.
The essence of a child is to get good treatment from their parents so that apart from preventing them from all bad things, the role of parents in guiding them so that they are not wrong in making decisions is also very good.
Actually this can be prevented if the addict's parents know that their child is gambling and addicted, but in this case even to the point of committing suicide they only know about it their role in taking care of the child is quite questionable.

It is like parents have forgotten that they have also a contribution to the addiction of their child, yes for me a 16 year old is still a child that needs a strict parental guidance. The parents are just finding other things or other people to be responsible to the result will in the first place they need to find the roots of the problem first. I doubt that parents will no accountability in their sons addiction. Maybe a gambling platform should be blame but also a parents should take responsibility too.
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One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is in debt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.

That's why it's important to know what our kids are doing because debt could ruin their lives if we'll not do something to help them get rid of it. To be honest, kids aren't strong enough to resist gambling and to handle the stress and fear of having debt so as early as possible, we should guide them into the right path.
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One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is in debt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.
That's why it's important to know what our kids are doing because debt could ruin their lives if we'll not do something to help them get rid of it. To be honest, kids aren't strong enough to resist gambling and to handle the stress and fear of having debt so as early as possible, we should guide them into the right path.
one way to prevent children from gambling at an early age is to educate about the bad effects of gambling as early as possible, besides that parents also need to monitor the friendship of their children because usually someone who enters gambling because of an invitation from his friends.

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March 12, 2022, 02:43:51 PM
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One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is in debt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.
That's why it's important to know what our kids are doing because debt could ruin their lives if we'll not do something to help them get rid of it. To be honest, kids aren't strong enough to resist gambling and to handle the stress and fear of having debt so as early as possible, we should guide them into the right path.
one way to prevent children from gambling at an early age is to educate about the bad effects of gambling as early as possible, besides that parents also need to monitor the friendship of their children because usually someone who enters gambling because of an invitation from his friends.

Why would you only educate children to avoid gambling and not force them to stop gambling altogether?  Parents have control over their kids and if they are strict, they would not let their children gamble.
If you only tell them the cons of gambling and disadvantages of gambling and let them decide whether they want play or not, i think they will still opt to play gamble

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March 12, 2022, 03:44:21 PM
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for children maybe this can but we also can not only educate but there must be action in this case.
The age of children is the most vulnerable age, especially in imitating the behavior of the adults around them.
When the environment is good in any way, the child will definitely be good, but if the environment and the people around them are not good, don't expect too many children to be good.
when we forbid then we must also try not to show gambling to children even though we are also gamblers.
when it's just educating but on the other hand we and the people around show it clearly, especially in gambling then indeed the child will definitely follow it
there is a saying that says "your environment affects your mindset", totally agree with your sentence that children will follow the behavior of adults they see, if they can't hide it then it will be difficult for the child not to try gambling. so that if your child is still small, guide them to a good environment and also watch your behavior, hide your gambling activities.
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March 12, 2022, 04:20:26 PM
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Why would you only educate children to avoid gambling and not force them to stop gambling altogether?  Parents have control over their kids and if they are strict, they would not let their children gamble.
I have to disagree. Parents being too strict and forcing their children to do something or to stop doing something can be counterproductive and can have many negative effects. Teenagers and especially adults don't like to be told what to do, they have a rebel tendency so they will do exactly the opposite of what their parents tell them. And no matter how committed as a parent you are, you can't monitor your kids activities all day long.

On the other hand, teenagers can distinguish between what's right and what's wrong. All they need is someone who guide them and explain to them the risks of gambling and provide them better alternatives.

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Why would you only educate children to avoid gambling and not force them to stop gambling altogether?  Parents have control over their kids and if they are strict, they would not let their children gamble.
If you only tell them the cons of gambling and disadvantages of gambling and let them decide whether they want play or not, i think they will still opt to play gamble

Forcing and educating is 2 different methods of disciplining your child. When you force them into something, they are most likely to go the around way around when they can stand on their own because they are going to be curious why you're prohibiting something when there are a lot people are enjoying it.
While, educating is equipping them with the things that's going to happen when they engage too much in gambling.
You cannot stop and force you child anyway when they have their own job and can live on their own anyway. So, the best thing you can do is to educate them .

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Anyone can become addicted to gambling, regardless of their job. Many parents are not even aware that their children are gambling because most gamblers tend not to spread the word and this is quite normal. I am sure that most forum members who gamble are of the same opinion and limit the circle of people who are privy to their affairs.
Actually teaching is one job that requires peace of mind. A teacher going through a gambling problem is actually a disturbing sign for society because that would basically mean the students are not learning anything about life, if at all about the subject itself.

For some reason people are hesitant about sharing their gambling addiction and they feel it would make them look terrible while actually it's just another form of disease and nothing wrong with admitting to it and working on it.

I am seeing more and more such cases lately and feels depressing to see where society is going because gambling itself isn't a problem but problem gambling is a serious issue and must be addressed.

It feels like you are very disconnected from reality. More scary things have happened than a teacher who gambles. In my opinion, teachers have all the same addictions as other people, they just have to hide it because of their line of work. When I was in high school we had teachers who suffered from alcoholism. I'm sure there are some who use drugs.

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Forcing and educating is 2 different methods of disciplining your child. When you force them into something, they are most likely to go the around way around when they can stand on their own because they are going to be curious why you're prohibiting something when there are a lot people are enjoying it.
While, educating is equipping them with the things that's going to happen when they engage too much in gambling.
You cannot stop and force you child anyway when they have their own job and can live on their own anyway. So, the best thing you can do is to educate them .
I now have 2 children, and the biggest is a boy...

I have anxiety about what he does every day because I let him play with his peers, once he was caught I was learning to smoke with a friend while playing at once I educated him by saying cigarettes are bad, can kill, lots of poison, thank God he's not continued that activity.

I'm sure later there will be a time when his friends invite him to gamble, so I definitely won't immediately scold him or hit him harshly, I will give him education first about the bad effects of gambling and also what the impact will be on his future. I do this so that he has the provisions to anticipate things that he doesn't deserve to do at a young age.

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March 12, 2022, 07:10:44 PM
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It is all the same fir everyone who will become addicted to gambling either adults and underage but the worst is for underage where they don't have work and will surely cause bad like stealing money or things to sell and then use it to gamble or worse. We really can't blame the game alone but we may be able to blame the parents for not guiding their children or educating them about the gambling's advantage and disadvantage though many of us know that we may be able to win big time but the disadvantage is we always lose.

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