Blame Game in gambling

[delfastTions]

I understand why almost all of the users replied that parental negligence is a major factor why this has happened, and I would also agree on that. Regardless of the busy schedule, distance, the age of the children, your siblings and basically anyone in the family, parents and other family members must check on one another from time to time. A simple how are you could make a difference, and even more advices that would leave an impact on them to have realizations on the things that they are currently doing. Depression is proven to be diagnosed, but it is not something that can be just easily determined, thus its cure would be a collaborative effort of the experts and the patients themselves.

You got it right there, somehow I feel like you're a parent now, aren't you? Well, that doesn't matter some are good at advicing when they aren't on that position (pun intended). Not a parent yet but I totally agree that's still on the parents to blame even the case isn't directly pointing at them. I've seen how we grow being disciplined over things and I just realized right now how lucky I've been grounded when I did wrong.

Can't say for sure about depression but it's really dangerous as a cancer, if the case from the OP was pointing at depression then the blame was still at the parents. I just can't help but think how they regret this tragic event to bury their own child, though that wouldn't change at all for them but to those who are still gonna save another child with the same scenario. This should be an eye opener to anyone especially if they're a parent, I am reminding myself as a future parent.

It’s also important here that almost all children now have smartphones, and you still won’t be able to constantly control what they do on the Internet, because for this you must constantly be near the child.  But this is impossible. 

I see only one way out here, do not buy a smartphone for him until the maximum possible age.  And limit yourself to a primitive phone only for voice communication and SMS and without access to the Internet.  But I understand that such a child can be an outcast among peers, which also complicates the task. 
In short, the most difficult problem of our time.

[maydna]

It is all the same fir everyone who will become addicted to gambling either adults and underage but the worst is for underage where they don't have work and will surely cause bad like stealing money or things to sell and then use it to gamble or worse. We really can't blame the game alone but we may be able to blame the parents for not guiding their children or educating them about the gambling's advantage and disadvantage though many of us know that we may be able to win big time but the disadvantage is we always lose.

That's because, as parents, we have to pay attention to how they socialize and what they do in their spare time. Don't let them do something that can have bad consequences in the future, let alone become addicted to gambling or online games. I've seen this happen to some kids who often play online games, and it makes them forget their time and just play the game. If we can educate our children well, I'm sure they won't try anything bad because they will think before doing anything.

[madnessteat]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

[maydna]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

I know we can't, but if they can understand right and wrong, they won't try. The most important thing here is how we can explain things that can be bad for them according to their grasping ability to understand everything they encounter.

As long as we can give understanding to them and they can understand the risks and consequences, I think they will be fine in their social circle. Knowing all the friends in their social circle can help detect early if something is starting to go wrong in their lives so we can prevent it right away.

[Theones]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

Exactly - and we learn we when we make mistakes. Most of the people are so stubborn that they don't learn from mistakes of other, when want to see things with their own eyes and suffer strong set back before they really learn the lesson. Gambling and drinking does not bring any good to the person that is why most of the culture have banned it already. One does not remain in their senses when they gamble or drink and they tend to blame other for their mistakes.

[ultrloa]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

Exactly - and we learn we when we make mistakes. Most of the people are so stubborn that they don't learn from mistakes of other, when want to see things with their own eyes and suffer strong set back before they really learn the lesson. Gambling and drinking does not bring any good to the person that is why most of the culture have banned it already. One does not remain in their senses when they gamble or drink and they tend to blame other for their mistakes.

This is normal human nature where people doesn't learn when they didn't experience those bad things unto them. Social circle really contributes on how people deal theirselves in some things they are interested to go thru and its just  some other people cannot handle well the things they go on. Gambling is not really bad in the first place its just some people abuse theirselves and didn't know how to escape if they got eaten by gambling.

[madnessteat]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

I know we can't, but if they can understand right and wrong, they won't try. The most important thing here is how we can explain things that can be bad for them according to their grasping ability to understand everything they encounter.

As long as we can give understanding to them and they can understand the risks and consequences, I think they will be fine in their social circle. Knowing all the friends in their social circle can help detect early if something is starting to go wrong in their lives so we can prevent it right away.

You can listen to your parents, but it is impossible to adopt their experience. That's why we try a lot of the things they protect us from. I was told from childhood that gambling would not lead to anything good and that I did not play them, but because of my interest I still gambled and continue to do so to this day. Yes, I lost large sums of money, but it was more of an experience than a wake-up call that I should end my life. Only a weak person would do that. So it makes no sense to blame his parents, society or gambling sites. Each of us is responsible for our own lives.

[robelneo]

Gambling is not really bad in the first place its just some people abuse theirselves and didn't know how to escape if they got eaten by gambling.

Abuse is the right word, anything excess can be considered abuse even if it is good if you abuse you will suffer from it, the worst abuse is gambling because you can lose everything, your friends, your income, your sanity, and worse your life and the right action is moderation if you do things in moderation you are on safe side, so check if you are abusing or in moderation when it comes to gambling.

[TopT3ns]

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You can't be around your child 24/7, which means there's still a chance that while you're away he might be doing something he's afraid to admit to you. It can be not only gambling. He could be watching porn, smoking marijuana, etc.

His activities depend directly on his social circle. So if we want our children only the best in life, we must first know all about his friends and limit communication with people you do not like for one reason or another.

You right how care with controlling by parent keep depending attitude and activities our kids depending directly with his social circle and how his surroundings, I know although have parents keep controlling his kids on good way but when get bad circle and ask for gambling way they will allow with his friend or his surroundings have the same ideas, everything always depend how our surroundings keep on the right way and easy with controlling our kids keep on good thing without worry they will allow on gambling site. But still need guide them on the right way and give any impact about joining on gambling site.

[yazher]

It feels like you are very disconnected from reality. More scary things have happened than a teacher who gambles. In my opinion, teachers have all the same addictions as other people, they just have to hide it because of their line of work. When I was in high school we had teachers who suffered from alcoholism. I'm sure there are some who use drugs.

Yeah! I totally agreed with that. we also had teachers that have some serious problems which I don't really want to mention for the sake of the users. The only problem is when they want to bring their addictions to the next level where they chose to go for an extreme version of themselves which doesn't really a good idea because the consequences are more strong than before and that's why I think they committed to taking their own life because they don't know what to do anymore. Family counseling is the most important here when they see something is not right, it won't gonna hurt them to sit with the person and talk about it to resolve his problem.

[maydna]

You can listen to your parents, but it is impossible to adopt their experience. That's why we try a lot of the things they protect us from. I was told from childhood that gambling would not lead to anything good and that I did not play them, but because of my interest I still gambled and continue to do so to this day. Yes, I lost large sums of money, but it was more of an experience than a wake-up call that I should end my life. Only a weak person would do that. So it makes no sense to blame his parents, society or gambling sites. Each of us is responsible for our own lives.

Their children do not need to adopt their parent's experiences but listen to what their parents have to say because there must be something that their children can use for their lives. After all, their children's experiences would be different from their parent's because their world was already different. Maybe not to blame the parents, but at least the parents educate their children to get the best for them. No parent wants to see their children fall into evil, which requires responsibility from each of us.

[Oasisman]

Gambling is not really bad in the first place its just some people abuse theirselves and didn't know how to escape if they got eaten by gambling.

Abuse is the right word, anything excess can be considered abuse even if it is good if you abuse you will suffer from it, the worst abuse is gambling because you can lose everything, your friends, your income, your sanity, and worse your life and the right action is moderation if you do things in moderation you are on safe side, so check if you are abusing or in moderation when it comes to gambling.

When we're talking about vices, abuse is inevitable. You won't even know you're already abusing it because you can always think that you're in the area of moderation.
There's a thin line between addiction and abuse.
Addiction means you're out of control and everything seems chaos and you started lossing everything.
While abuse is sometimes unnoticeable, until you realize you're gradually lossing something. That's the beginning of addiction.

[Cookdata]

One factor that leads to suicide is debt. I don't know if the young gambler is eligible to borrow in Europe but, the Government frown against that I could remember when a Gambling company was sanctioned for sending out spam messages through email about their gambling platform. Nobody should be blamed about his death. Regarding the fact that it's not quite clear despite his parent's blame on his gambling addiction that it's what caused his death. This is just one part of his habits that they know about. He could have other kinds of lifestyles which must have lead to his suicidal action. One thing is for sure, maybe he is indebt or borrowed to gamble and lost it all.

That factor wouldn't count unless the debtor won't have the capacity to pay back the debt and that's when the thought of suicide begins to set in before they finally give the thought in and choose the wrong step of life.
There was a particular thread I replied how a family friend lost his master's funding to gambling, he was losing it until he realised he had just less than $200 out of $8000 that was given to him as an initial deposit, he drink a sniper (pesticide) but was later rush to the hospital when they discovered and luckily, he survived. The Mum and other siblings never knew him as a gambler because he is the silent type. So, the Moral story is that parent do try their possible best to protect every child but they have a limit on how they can protect their child.

[Mahanton]

Gambling is not really bad in the first place its just some people abuse theirselves and didn't know how to escape if they got eaten by gambling.

Abuse is the right word, anything excess can be considered abuse even if it is good if you abuse you will suffer from it, the worst abuse is gambling because you can lose everything, your friends, your income, your sanity, and worse your life and the right action is moderation if you do things in moderation you are on safe side, so check if you are abusing or in moderation when it comes to gambling.

When we're talking about vices, abuse is inevitable. You won't even know you're already abusing it because you can always think that you're in the area of moderation.
There's a thin line between addiction and abuse.
Addiction means you're out of control and everything seems chaos and you started lossing everything.
While abuse is sometimes unnoticeable, until you realize you're gradually lossing something. That's the beginning of addiction.

All things comes on a line or on the same process because you would still really be ending up on getting addicted if you dont able to get rid of it on the first place.If you arent aware on what
you are doing  then most likely you would really be experiencing these scenarios.When dealing up with gambling then you should put up into your mind that odds of losing is higher than on
winning for you not to able to create some false mindset or hopes behind which is one of the factors that really push up people on doing such bad decisions or actions.

[KTChampions]

When we're talking about vices, abuse is inevitable. You won't even know you're already abusing it because you can always think that you're in the area of moderation.
There's a thin line between addiction and abuse.
Addiction means you're out of control and everything seems chaos and you started lossing everything.
While abuse is sometimes unnoticeable, until you realize you're gradually lossing something. That's the beginning of addiction.

Beautiful words, but what is their practical meaning?  Are you a supporter of strict regulation or do you hold the view that a person is free to act in accordance with his desires? In both cases, examples can be given where the chosen decision will have unpleasant consequences for the individual or society (or for both at once). Initially, the question is whether a person has the right to deliberately harm himself or not.

[madnessteat]

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

[Lucasgabd]

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

what we'd need is creating a network of support, most of times people who opt for killing themselves could probably find different solutions for their problems having some kind of treatment, therapist or even a support network.

[KTChampions]

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

But this is a stupid way for you, but for him it may be smart. Do you want to deny him the right to make a decision?
As for harm, what about an unhealthy lifestyle? After all, it kills no less inevitably than other quick methods. Do you want to force people to go for a run in the morning? Take away their "extra" dose of sugar, etc.? How far will your concern extend? When I say "you" I mean the state.

[tabas]

Their children do not need to adopt their parent's experiences but listen to what their parents have to say because there must be something that their children can use for their lives. After all, their children's experiences would be different from their parent's because their world was already different. Maybe not to blame the parents, but at least the parents educate their children to get the best for them. No parent wants to see their children fall into evil, which requires responsibility from each of us.

It depends on how the parents have grown their children. If these children knows how to obey what their parents are saying, they're going to listen to them and do whatever they say.
But if these children don't listen to them anymore, there are only things that can be said of. These parents need to study parenting or these children have been influenced really badly.

[Fortify]

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I believe that one should consciously harm oneself only in urgent cases, such as when one is hopelessly ill with cancer and the narcotics that have been denouncing his hellish pains have ceased to work. Euthanasia is an excellent option in such cases.

If a person decides to commit suicide because of some problem, he is just a coward who, instead of fighting the problem, is trying to escape from it in this stupid way.

But this is a stupid way for you, but for him it may be smart. Do you want to deny him the right to make a decision?
As for harm, what about an unhealthy lifestyle? After all, it kills no less inevitably than other quick methods. Do you want to force people to go for a run in the morning? Take away their "extra" dose of sugar, etc.? How far will your concern extend? When I say "you" I mean the state.

It's hard to judge someone who gets into such a situation but often times the world and the future can look bleaker than it really is - sadly the brain has a tendency to reinforce either positive or negative feelings by looking for confirmatory evidence. That can lead to a downward (or upward) spiral which can be tough to escape from, however most gambling related debt can be dealt with as long as the underlying problem is fixed, aka the person needs to stop gambling first because they have likely been chasing losses for a while. Suicide is rarely the answer for a lot of lifes problems but depression can lead to many dark and unnecessary thoughts that need lots of help to solve.