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May 04, 2022, 02:35:40 AM
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My guess is LTC Casinos fate has already been sealed and they know it.  I could be wrong, but this is what it looks like when a casino dies.  The website still works for a bit while they hope a few more victims stumble across and deposit, but eventually in the next few months if not weeks the site will go down and they will be gone.

I'm sorry you got screwed bambolina. For the sake of your own mental health, try to limit how much time you spend thinking about it.  I know it's easier said than done, but this will all be in the past eventually, If I'm right about them giving up, it might as well be sooner than later.

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May 04, 2022, 04:59:20 AM
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Which link?
I have done a re flag and thankfully some users supported the flag.
Now the only thing left for me is arise awareness  of this organization everywhere i can in the net.
The just stolen the money and disappear from bitcointalk  as they have proven publicly they are scammer..
I will make sure not only ltc casino get the reputation they deserve but also the rest of the casinos  owned by the same owner.


They now blocked UK ip, i wonder how many people they scammed



Sorry but I can't remember that and I have not written that anywhere. But that is on the forum. You have taken a good decision to write about that on the internet. It is common that they will leave the forum as they have scammed. When the allowed multi account made me confused that why they will allow multiple account and also why they will give withdrawal option for a small amount of money per day. Now all is clear.

It's sad that another casino scammed people before closing its operation and there is nothing we can do about it. Can't be there any rules regulation which could protect the customer's interest and money ?
Also, its a possibility that the same scammers open up a new casino to scam again in a similar manner as they did in LTC casino. (as they have enough money scammed to setup things again)

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May 04, 2022, 01:36:06 PM
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Which link?
I have done a re flag and thankfully some users supported the flag.
Now the only thing left for me is arise awareness  of this organization everywhere i can in the net.
The just stolen the money and disappear from bitcointalk  as they have proven publicly they are scammer..
I will make sure not only ltc casino get the reputation they deserve but also the rest of the casinos  owned by the same owner.





They now blocked UK ip, i wonder how many people they scammed



Sorry but I can't remember that and I have not written that anywhere. But that is on the forum. You have taken a good decision to write about that on the internet. It is common that they will leave the forum as they have scammed. When the allowed multi account made me confused that why they will allow multiple account and also why they will give withdrawal option for a small amount of money per day. Now all is clear.

It's sad that another casino scammed people before closing its operation and there is nothing we can do about it. Can't be there any rules regulation which could protect the customer's interest and money ?
Also, its a possibility that the same scammers open up a new casino to scam again in a similar manner as they did in LTC casino. (as they have enough money scammed to setup things again)




Here a video of the LTC ceo Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev speaking about my winnings and the case in his TTR channel.
He speak in Russian but someone in another forum kindly translated in points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGsL7jAt-qM&t=1s




He talks about a lot of things that are unrelated to my case .

Here below The main points are as follows with below my replies.
He feels to explain that to hi Russian followers but not to the rest of the market he takes money from.

1. He would have had no problem paying out this amount if the win had been legitimate - this amount is peanuts.

Me)Who even speaks like that!!!


2. The reason for no-payment is that a new player,  started playing at their casino using a bunch of VPNs and multiple accounts, around 7 or 8.

LOL THE USE OF VPN is highly advertised in the site . 7/8 ACCOUNT FIRST BIG LIE.   1)  Use of vpn  is allowed and advertised and i asked the chat operator too if i could use it as some sites do not allow vpn but me playing form Uk many games were not available. NOT RULES BREACHED AS IS ONE OF THEIR SELLING POINTS THE USE OF VPN                                                                                                                                                                           7/8 ACCOUNTS? big liea again  because i have opened 4 and the ltc rep in bictointalk comfirmed i did open 4 accounts. Reference :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.40   they confirmed 4 and when i opened the  accusation i said 4 because i opened 4 accounts. Never used them all together. I can also prove they were on time out.


3. The player was playing only one slot game

VERY TRUE, I HAVE PLAYED POWER OF GODS HADES THE COOLEST GAME AMONG THE CHEAP OTHER PROVIDERS SLOTS. i JUST REALLY LOVE THIS GAME.  https://wazdan.com/en/games/game/168

4.He lost around 5-10K EUR from the first three registered accounts (he does not remember exactly how much)

I have lost much more than that as i made  well over 15k British pounds in ltc in deposits and lost also 100ltc from the first jackpot i have won in January. I did not win the jackpots in a row as the liar says an i have lost all the money because i couldn't stop playing and the max withdrawal was 15ltc.

5. Following this loss, the player began blackmailing them and threatening to sue them, claiming to be from the UKGC..

Another lie, i have contacted first the chat provider to close my account as i couldn't stop playing and  when i told him that this behaviour put  vulnerable players at risk he said he didn't care. Than yes , i actually wrote an email of complaint because the casino was acting in such a predatory ways refusing to close my account and i told them if my account wouldn't have been close i would have alarm the ukgc commission . And yes i did ask them a refund of my money, correct. is this scamming behaviour ? Or a player who claims is right to have their account close? Me claiming to be from the UKGC?? LOL I want to have what he has to be so high and make such fabricated lies. Just another lie from the fantasy book of TTR  Again absolutely lies

6. Following that, the player created more accounts, and from the last account, with a balance of 10 Litecoins, the player won three jackpots at 3000x each in a row from 13,000 spins..

, i did not win any jackpots in a row, the gameplay can show this lies. The reason why ltc rep refused to share the gameplay in bitcointalk is because this lies will come out, but i did win two jackpots but one day between after playing crazy hours. Not same amount tough.

7. The thing about this slot game is that it has a range of volatility levels ranging from low to super high.

TRUE.

 

8. According to the player's game history, he was only using the lowest volatility setting when he won the jackpot, however, the jackpot is only available when using the highest volatility setting.

https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqc  This is the screenshot of when i won the biggest jackpot.Does it look lowest volatility. Btw the way i thought the chillies meant the speed of the game.. this is how high tech i am !

9. They closed his account and forwarded it to the game provider (Wazdan) for verification.

So they said, they never email email me to let me know they block the account for investigations.(who does that? they treat me as guilty before even sending anything to the game provider) They just blocked it and they only reply to me via bitcointalk .if i didn't do that they would have probably stolen my money and forget it.

10. After nearly a month of waiting, the provider responded that everything is OK, but without providing any proper piece of information.

.This is what they say the game provider reply is here and is very different from TTR words.https://imgur.com/KiL7flu   link to read it better  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.140

11. They then created a straight to the point list of questions and sent it to Wazdan once more.

Again their words, the game provider deny it and said they replied to all the questions. This i will never know who's lying in  here as ltc casino refuse their correspondence with wadzan.  Wonder why if that would have hepl to clear their name.

 

12. They ended up sending the same list to Wazdan, but they never replied fuck all... Yes exactly like that!

Charming.

13. They had had enough and sent a request to the company from which they connect games (Softswiss).

This was never mentioned in bitcointalk and now it will interesting to see this official statement from Softwiss. PROVES OBVIOUSLY AND NOT CHATS as this will be pop corn material now to see what wadzan has to say also. interesting that Softswiss made such a statement and they did not share it in casino guru? or bitcointalk?  The gameplay was checked by wadzan and casino guru specialist  two third party . How unbiased is soft Swiss and where is the statement with the evidence?

14. Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside.

This what hat i have found about wadzan in askgamblers site. Maybe Andrej or softSwiss can share their findings?   https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/software/wazdan. Again game vulnerability has nothing to do with me.

.Throwing mud at providers will not remove the muds TTR is covered. Where are the evidence? Evidence? i m not wadzan lawyer but Andrey should at least share this amazing findings that still have nothing to do with my winnings.

15. He then says that they discovered a similar case with Wazdan on AskGamblers, in which a player won a massive multiplier and Wazdan initially refused to admit that the game had a bug, but later admitted.
Did they? can't find anything again on the net. iF there was a bug on the slots would be happy days for me as the provider should have pay me. but the question is how come We are all scammers here?

 

16. When he compared his situation to theirs, he realised that it was very similar because Wazdan was unable to answer some of their questions.

Huh??How so? And why not dealing formally with the provider before defaming me and them publicly? Also wasn't my case similar to booming game case? are they all the same? 

17. The player appears to be from the UK, and his standard practice is to register at unlicensed casinos and then file complaints and blackmail, among other things, after losing money.
 Liar, again i did file complained when i felt it was needed. To made a formal complaint is not illegal and one is not a scammer as there is plenty of casino scammers as ltc in the net

18. After the player was informed that he would not be receiving the money, TTR began receiving messages from various gaming (fake) commissions as well as DDOS attacks.

.This is actually funny, as i can barely use my laptop!!This sound more like his style. PLEASE READ THIS ARTILE AND TELL ME THIS IS NOT COMING AGAIN FROM TEH FANTASY WORLD OF TTR... HE HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND NOW HE THINK EVERYONE WILL DO WHAT HE HAS DONE TO OTHERS??   https://www.casinoz.club/content/truth-about-ttr-casino-615.html  please get pop corns for this one.

19. He personally believes that Wazdan has a vulnerability in the game and that the entire situation is typical of crypto casino scammers, as there are many similar topics on Bitcointalk.

i PERSONALLY BELIEVE TTR IS A SCAMMER THE Difference between me and him i can prove it while TTR just use words and can't shed a drop of evidence except his delusions and  lies.
So much defamation yet not evidence still!!!


can someone tells me if softswiss will be unbiased in this situation?


Thanks for reading and maybe LTC casino want to share his views?
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May 08, 2022, 01:33:22 PM
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I created a red flag against @ltccasino


I invite everyone to help me to prevent future players to be scammed so badly but this ruthless casino.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2949

They refuse to share my game history and they blocked my account in order to prevent me to defend myself.

Let's clean the community from this fraudsters because in 2 months they haven't be able to prove even a tiny evidence, all they did was lying and making defamatory accusations.


I'll make sure this casino illegal practices will be reported everywhere,


Thank you in advance for those who supported the first flag.

My mental health has been deteriorating in the past few months because of this scammer nobody should have endure such a treatment by a casino.

PLEASE HELP ME TO AT LEAST PREVENT THEM TO SCAM OTHERS.



Hey there, thks for letting me know about flags:) Supported it as well.

You can check my flag here as well if you wish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298;page=iflags
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I am new to this thread, had not noticed it before. I am reposting the image links in the OP so it can provide a visual understanding to those also unaware of the situation:



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Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3408346

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59516351#msg59516351

Amount Scammed: 1496LTC
Payment Method: LTC

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May 09, 2022, 12:00:57 PM
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Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

I apologize for not being able to answer every question and comment, so I will try to finally describe our position on this case in one post.

As we have repeatedly stated, we suspect the player of using vulnerabilities in the game provider's software to win. Among other reasons, our suspicions are reinforced by the following factors:

- The player's use of only one slot for all gaming activity over an extended period of time.

- The absence of pauses in the game.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.

- A recent case where Felix Gaming provider also had a vulnerability that allowed players to dishonestly win hundreds of thousands of euros and the similarity of this case to the current one.

Our suspicions are also reinforced by the player's past activity on specific forums - you can find many complaints opened by the player against the most different casinos on several forums. Including, a regular practice for the player was the use of blackmail, which he, among other things, tried to do with our casino. The simple trick was that the player would make a deposit, use a British IP address and withdraw the money if he won. In the case of a loss the player began to blackmail the casino with complaints to the law enforcement authorities in the UK to get his deposit back.

Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.
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Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

I apologize for not being able to answer every question and comment, so I will try to finally describe our position on this case in one post.

As we have repeatedly stated, we suspect the player of using vulnerabilities in the game provider's software to win. Among other reasons, our suspicions are reinforced by the following factors:

- The player's use of only one slot for all gaming activity over an extended period of time.

- The absence of pauses in the game.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.

- A recent case where Felix Gaming provider also had a vulnerability that allowed players to dishonestly win hundreds of thousands of euros and the similarity of this case to the current one.

Our suspicions are also reinforced by the player's past activity on specific forums - you can find many complaints opened by the player against the most different casinos on several forums. Including, a regular practice for the player was the use of blackmail, which he, among other things, tried to do with our casino. The simple trick was that the player would make a deposit, use a British IP address and withdraw the money if he won. In the case of a loss the player began to blackmail the casino with complaints to the law enforcement authorities in the UK to get his deposit back.

Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.



Dear ltc casino, thanks to at least acknowledged the case.

First i like to know why Andrey ttr the ceo of ltc casino and owner stated in a video published in TTR CASINO channel in telegram in Russian that softswiss has checked my gameplay and confirmed was 100% fraud? And now you are saying that soft Swiss expert are investigating.

As I stated previously i have not issues for third parties to check my gameplay because i did not cheat and even less used a software. You are saying that i made not pause but i did and the game play will show if softswiss is honest they will realize that and confirm it.  Casino guru and wadzan checked , ok you have your issues with wadzan but why casino guru would have to lie??
Regarding the bugs and vulnerabilities this i out of my hands i don't honestly even truly understand what that implies as i don't understand much of IT.

Regarding the fact i have made complaints in forums about some casinos that exploit players this is not being a scammer but a player that feel the casino has taken advantage. I asked your chat operator to close my account as i couldn't stop playing and you chat operator was rude and brutal and simply told me no, and to just don't play. That's why i put the first 3 accounts in time out. Haven't u checked?? Please check and you might realised you simply dealing with someone that asked for help and have his account close and your site refused. That's why out of frustration i made a formal complaint to your support site and told them if my account wouldn't be closed and my money refunded i would have reported you to the UKGC.  That happened only when you casino clearly exploit vulnerable  players and your ceo brags in forums that his casino respect problems gamblers.

Regarding me using one slot i have nothing to defend , this slot is actually really cool and the fact that i actually won a jackpot at the beginning made me play over and over in hope i would win again.  You can make as many assumptions as you like but you must consider that lots of players will come to site like yours from UK because they have banned themselves at gamstop , and unfortunately when we fail ourselves again we are left with unlicensed casino that exploit players like yours.
i am not here to look for pity as i have none for me, i failed myself once again after a very long period without playing. Unfortunately gambling is a  symptom  that hides bigger problems and i have used gambling as coping mechanism for many years.  In january somethig really bad happens to my mum and i gamble continuously to numb the pain. I have asked your casino to close my account as i couldn't stop. YOU REFUSED!!! You were happy to take my money , money made out of pain and tears. You knew i was a problem gambler, you refuse to block me even tough you received my formal complaint and though i was a scammer?

So you let me play and then planned to take my money if i ever was going to win? Is this honest? Does your casino who promotes fairness have any integrity at all?

By the way the volatility of the game was not at the lowest but i had two chilies when i won the jackpot which is not a progressive jackpot  and the reason i have won the biggest is because i was playing max bet.
Funnily enough i discovered in this forum that the chillies on the slot was not the speed of the spin. That's how big of an hacker i am !! ( sarcasm)

In closing , i truly hope once softwiss ends the investigation and not foul play will find on my side  if they are honest  they will see it as the other two party did. I am confident they won't because i didn't.

I have won honestly and i should be paid and i truly hope you keep your promise and pay the winnings at once since you have dragged this case to the max and caused me a proper breakdown. i am not sleeping anymore , not eating and I'm obsessed to find justice. If i was a scammer i would have moved on and use this amazing skills you think i have.



Here below the video made by Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev in TTR Channel in telegram. It is in Russian but someone translated this for me in another forum. Why would he lie and said that softswiss made the checks and im 100% fraud?  If thy did they can share and prove it tough , words are worth nothing without evidence.




I truly hope the matter will end soon and justice will be done.






Here is the  video and  the translation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGsL7jAt-qM&feature=emb_logo

He talks about a lot of things that are unrelated to OP's cases. The main points are as follows:

1. He would have had no problem paying out this amount if the win had been legitimate - this amount is peanuts.

2. The reason for no-payment is that a new player,  started playing at their casino using a bunch of VPNs and multiple accounts, around 7 or 8.

3. The player was playing only one slot game

4. He lost around 5-10K EUR from the first three registered accounts (he does not remember exactly how much)

5. Following this loss, the player began blackmailing them and threatening to sue them, claiming to be from the UKGC..

6. Following that, the player created more accounts, and from the last account, with a balance of 10 Litecoins, the player won three jackpots at 3000x each in a row from 13,000 spins.

7. The thing about this slot game is that it has a range of volatility levels ranging from low to super high.

8. According to the player's game history, he was only using the lowest volatility setting when he won the jackpot, however, the jackpot is only available when using the highest volatility setting.

9. They closed his account and forwarded it to the game provider (Wazdan) for verification.

10. After nearly a month of waiting, the provider responded that everything is OK, but without providing any proper piece of information.

11. They then created a straight to the point list of questions and sent it to Wazdan once more.

12. They ended up sending the same list to Wazdan, but they never replied fuck all... Yes exactly like that!

13. They had had enough and sent a request to the company from which they connect games (Softswiss).

14. Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside.

15. He then says that they discovered a similar case with Wazdan on AskGamblers, in which a player won a massive multiplier and Wazdan initially refused to admit that the game had a bug, but later admitted.

16. When he compared his situation to theirs, he realised that it was very similar because Wazdan was unable to answer some of their questions.

17. The player appears to be from the UK, and his standard practice is to register at unlicensed casinos and then file complaints and blackmail, among other things, after losing money.

18. After the player was informed that he would not be receiving the money, TTR began receiving messages from various gaming (fake) commissions as well as DDOS attacks.

19. He personally believes that Wazdan has a vulnerability in the game and that the entire situation is typical of crypto casino scammers, as there are many similar topics on Bitcointalk.







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Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.

let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying, but you did not provide proof that they are lying. Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation? this new company can say that the OP game had a bug to destroy wazdan's reputation, you who got them, who guarantees you didn't tell them to put up false proof so that this whole case turns in your favor?

you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?

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Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.

let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying, but you did not provide proof that they are lying. Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation? this new company can say that the OP game had a bug to destroy wazdan's reputation, you who got them, who guarantees you didn't tell them to put up false proof so that this whole case turns in your favor?

you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?



Did u see what the ceo of ltc casino said in TTR CASINO telegram chat? Apparently accordingly to  Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev  : ". Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside"

This is a translation of part of the chat he made in Russian and translated for me in another forum. above i pu the video and the transslation.

Ltc  ceo brags in Russian that softswiss checked my game history and concluded i am  a fraud 100% , which unless is another lies of this andrey TTR, the fraud is softswiss if they say i am the fraud because first i didn't cheat and wadzan and casino guru checked my gameplay so it is clear softswiss lied, unless this is pure fabrication of LTC ceo Andrej.

Also if he makes such a statement where is the proves and softswiss statement?
LTC ceo states publicly in his video that he believes wadzan slot has vulnerabilities. Again he says he believes but not evidence given , yet is almost 3 months that they struggle to find a shred of evidenceand   that they took my money!!! after all this absence they haven't come back with any evidence , same story , accusations and not proves.

After all this time is impossible that they can't come back with one single evidence. Also what sort of relationship softswiss has with ltc casino? There is no way they will find the use of a software from me, zero chance and two parties confirmed that, if they want to throw mud to another provider is none of my business but they aren't going to lie about me.

I will try and contact softswiss if is true that they checked my game history and if is true they said i am a fraud. After ltc casino dealt with wadzan i take everything from a pinch of salt  from this people.

All  hear are excuses one after another just to justify the theft of my money, and yes this is theft as they took the money without real evidence but only a set of believes that casino holds and probably they do not believe players should get paid.
Shame on them!





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Did u see what the ceo of ltc casino said in TTR CASINO telegram chat? Apparently accordingly to  Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev  : ".

I didn't see the video, I don't trust them. Anyway, if you have the video where the CEO shows his Face, if you have the CEO's full name and the CEO's nationality, then you can report your case to your country's police, I believe your country's police can get in touch with interpol to do more research on this casino and arrest the scammer or at least take him to court and make him pay you, do it while they are left with these pointless arguments, don't wait for their investigation, these guys are not trustworthy, trust the police and courts only, because they are the only ones who can solve your case

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Did u see what the ceo of ltc casino said in TTR CASINO telegram chat? Apparently accordingly to  Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev  : ".

I didn't see the video, I don't trust them. Anyway, if you have the video where the CEO shows his Face, if you have the CEO's full name and the CEO's nationality, then you can report your case to your country's police, I believe your country's police can get in touch with interpol to do more research on this casino and arrest the scammer or at least take him to court and make him pay you, do it while they are left with these pointless arguments, don't wait for their investigation, these guys are not trustworthy, trust the police and courts only, because they are the only ones who can solve your case

3 post ups with the translation from Russian to English.
He made his video in Russian probably for making believe  his Russian followers  that is not a liar.
There is plenty of infos of this guy on the net, again ltc casino says one thing but still not paying after almost 3 months so called investigations.


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Firstly, SoftSwiss is a “Game Aggregator” provider, offering white-label and other solutions to online casinos. Many online casinos are powered by SoftSwiss, including some reputable casino brands visible in this forum. (And some less reputable ones.)

Now, if it is true that the SoftSwiss representative commented on this case, it’s adding another dimension to this whole case, as they have Wazdan in their standard offer. Those two things contradict each other.

Will they pull out Wazdan provider from their portfolio of game selections, in the case, they “find out” that their slots are full of bugs? All online casinos powered by SoftSwiss will drop Wazdan games?

I would highly recommend you ask for the official statement from SoftSwiss as this whole case can damage their reputation as well.

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- The player's use of only one slot for all gaming activity over an extended period of time.

- The absence of pauses in the game.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.

- A recent case where Felix Gaming provider also had a vulnerability that allowed players to dishonestly win hundreds of thousands of euros and the similarity of this case to the current one.


Regarding this reply, I wouldn't even comment on those.

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Firstly, SoftSwiss is not a single game provider. They do not develop casino games. It’s a “Game Aggregator” provider, offering white-label and other solutions to online casinos. Many online casinos are powered by SoftSwiss, including some reputable casino brands visible in this forum. (And some less reputable ones.)

Now, if it is true that the SoftSwiss representative commented on this case, it’s adding another dimension to this whole case, as they have Wazdan in their standard offer. Those two things contradict each other.

Will they pull out Wazdan provider from their portfolio of game selections, in the case, they “find out” that their slots are full of bugs? All online casinos powered by SoftSwiss will drop Wazdan games?

I would highly recommend you ask for the official statement from SoftSwiss as this whole case can damage their reputation as well.




I have sent few emails to some softswiss email contact and ask them to pass my email to the ceo of softswiss  as this TTR ( LTC owner) stated in his video that an expert of softswiss checked my gameplay and thwy said i was 100% fraud, yet today ltc rep says that softSwiss are still investigating and did not mentioned that softswiss checked my gameplay an surely if they did ltc casino would have shared the statement as they did when they had the Felix case.

I am trying to get the contact email of Ivan Montik the ceo of softswiss as unfortunately i do not trust a word of ltc casino reps since they have lied about many things so far.

I also have casino guru statement who actually checked my gameplay and they checked it over and over and they confirmed i had breaks and use different bet sizes and volatilities and they comfirmed i had healthy breaks.
Wadzan checked it too, but i guess Ltc casino was not satisfied with two different third parties and decided to call scammer as well the game provider beside me.

LTC casino said i was playing with lowest volatilities but in my jackpot winning screenshot  I'm using the middle level , which funnily enough i thought was the speed.
They still using the excuse of me opening 4 accounts but they fail to admit is that they refuse to close my accounts when i asked them to close it as i couldn't stop it and i had to put my account in time out. Hint i open 4 accounts as the previous 3 were put in time out out of desperation.
 
ITt   was all happy days till i was making so many deposits, only after over well 15k and a massive win they decided  to block my account ( so they could close someone account if they wanted to)!!!

I know they will never pay me, it's almost 3 months now, they failed to provide evidence against me and to actually prove wadzan slots have bugs. Lots of accusations against everyone but not sign of taking accountability of their actions.

It will be interesting to know what softswiss has to say , if what ltc casino said is true and if they will be impartial. I did not cheat so if they lie about my game play ltc casino should share my gameplay publicly and get some impartial party to check it.

I am fearless as i know where i am standing , the problem i have been dealing with such shady people who still keep accusing me with not evidence after almost 3 months!!!
They disappear for almost a month and came back with the same story.. unbelievable.

If anyone has a contact of  Ivan Montik and could send it to me via private message i would really appreciate, i might not get paid at end but  i will make sure this horror story will be shared everywhere.


Regarding  the other accusations are laughable and at first they said the felix case made the casino lose 50000 and now is hundreds of thousands.  Next post will be millions. They can't even keep track of what they write in other posts.
Also they fail to say that accordingly to their own post the cheating player started with 300 dodge. I actually spent well over 15k of British pounds in litecoins.  They literally believe is impossible to win unless you cheat!!!
And this says it all!
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let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying

You are wrong. Wazdan DID NOT provide any confirmations of fairness of the winnings excepting words. They STILL DID NOT answer our questions, they just said "possibility to win those jackpots is XXX, so nothing wrong".

Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation?


They are not competitors. SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.


you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?

No. We work since 2017 and paid even much bigger ammounts many times. As I said before we will pay this winning either if it was fair. But now there is no any proof of it's fairness and we are going to wait for the investigation results.
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SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.
What makes you trust SoftSwiss while you don't trust Wazdan? Is that because Wazdan didn't rule in your favour, and told you to pay the player?

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But now there is no any proof of it's fairness
That's not how any of this works. You're supposed to know up front that the games you offer are fair. You don't need to prove that. If anything, you'd need to prove it's not fair, but you can't prove that. So what you meant to say is: "But now there is no proof that it's not fair". In other words: pay the player.

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I apologize for not being able to answer every question and comment, so I will try to finally describe our position on this case in one post.
That's OK. Liars are usually like that. They tell a lie, then they tell another lie and so on. And that's how you should be branded, as liars. You lied about making the data public and you didn't. After that you lied that you would send the data to an admin, have you done that? Of course not. LoyceV has already shown his interest in looking at the data of the player and he has plenty of experience with that. But you are not going to send it, are you?

As we have repeatedly stated, we suspect the player of using vulnerabilities in the game provider's software to win.
Your suspicions don't matter. You haven't been able to prove any of it.

The absence of pauses in the game.
Prove it. I have asked you many times. Post the proof and show the world how the player has cheated. When we are talking about suspicions, I suspect you are lying piece of shit based on your conduct so far. My suspicions outweigh yours because you haven't been able to prove anything you have said in those monologues of yours.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.
Really? Show it!

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.
What if your Belarusian brother company SoftSwiss doesn't rule in your favor, what's the next step? Maybe the casino owner's aunt and uncle can act as the neutral party.

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May 10, 2022, 09:20:05 AM
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let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying

You are wrong. Wazdan DID NOT provide any confirmations of fairness of the winnings excepting words. They STILL DID NOT answer our questions, they just said "possibility to win those jackpots is XXX, so nothing wrong".

Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation?


They are not competitors. SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.


you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?




Can u explain why Andrej TTR said his channel that softswiss checked my gameplay and stated i was 100% fraud?
Your ceo made a public statement and you actually explain.
Please share softswiss statement and my game history as i am 100% sure this is a lie, i did not cheat. wadzan and casino guru checked my game history and they confirmed i did not cheat. They were impartial and u did not accept the reality.
If softswiss made such a statement they will have to prove it. Please share their findings as everyone saw the video of your ceo.
Let's stop this game please. Also you disappeared from the 21/04/2022 and still you haven't come back with not evidence, is it because your casino can't find any and refuse to accept the reality that i didn't cheat? or that wadzan games maybe don't have bugs? The believes of your casino with not proves are worth nothig.
You keep searching for proves of me cheating and yet we are still here with the same stories.
Softswiss must now  prove that i am a fraud with facts unless your ceo lied again about softswiss making this allegations.
Please shar or explain at least and stop ignore me
 
SHARE MY GAME HISTORY WITH THE ADMIN OF THIS FORUM AND LET'S CUT THE CHASE, I HAVE NOT PROBLEMS OR FEARS. LET'S GET SOMEONE 100% IMPARTIAL TO SEE WHO IS LYING!!!!!
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What makes you trust SoftSwiss while you don't trust Wazdan? Is that because Wazdan didn't rule in your favour, and told you to pay the player?
Actually, they are trying to find someone who will say a single word in favour of them. But all of the middleman who involved themselves to resolve the issue has stand against their scam behaviour. As a result they don't trust anyone Cheesy. SoftSwiss team won't support their scam too.

What if your Belarusian brother company SoftSwiss doesn't rule in your favor, what's the next step? Maybe the casino owner's aunt and uncle can act as the neutral party.
Wazdan has made partnership with SoftSwiss to grow their business quickly. SoftSwiss works as a medium to make the Wazdan game available at those casinos where the casino team purchase SoftSwiss services. Anyway, there is no reason to trust LTC Casino. SoftSwiss can only work as a middleman in this case to short out the issue. Perhaps, SoftSwiss won't be able to resolve the issue as LTC Casino team members are liar. Wazdan team has shared the truth here, they also shared it with the casino guru team who was working as a middleman to resolve the issue before. LTC Casino doesn't care about anyone and they are trying to make us believe on their statement without providing any proof.

SoftSwiss is a big operator. They will never support the scam behaviour of LTC Casino. LTC Casino team members are trying to make the process long to scam more people in the meantime.

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Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

I apologize for not being able to answer every question and comment, so I will try to finally describe our position on this case in one post.

As we have repeatedly stated, we suspect the player of using vulnerabilities in the game provider's software to win. Among other reasons, our suspicions are reinforced by the following factors:

- The player's use of only one slot for all gaming activity over an extended period of time.

- The absence of pauses in the game.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.

- A recent case where Felix Gaming provider also had a vulnerability that allowed players to dishonestly win hundreds of thousands of euros and the similarity of this case to the current one.

Our suspicions are also reinforced by the player's past activity on specific forums - you can find many complaints opened by the player against the most different casinos on several forums. Including, a regular practice for the player was the use of blackmail, which he, among other things, tried to do with our casino. The simple trick was that the player would make a deposit, use a British IP address and withdraw the money if he won. In the case of a loss the player began to blackmail the casino with complaints to the law enforcement authorities in the UK to get his deposit back.

Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.
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let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying

You are wrong. Wazdan DID NOT provide any confirmations of fairness of the winnings excepting words. They STILL DID NOT answer our questions, they just said "possibility to win those jackpots is XXX, so nothing wrong".

Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation?


They are not competitors. SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.


you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?

No. We work since 2017 and paid even much bigger ammounts many times. As I said before we will pay this winning either if it was fair. But now there is no any proof of it's fairness and we are going to wait for the investigation results.
Thank you for posting in this thread with a detailed response but sadly it does not clarify basic fundamentals.

I think the issue here is with the action and inaction on your part. Let us say for a moment the OP has been exploiting a vulnerability in the game... the question arises why did you not pull the game since there was already a well known exploit out there according to your own comments? By allowing members to play a game that you knew had vulnerabilities shows you enticed them to play therefore you have to honour any winnings.

If the member was not aware of any vulnerabilities and did not exploit any vulnerabilities and simply "won" then you have no case against him because just suspecting him of foul-play on a game that you yourself made available on your website even though you knew it could be exploited is a pointless case to make.

Do not wait for SoftSwiss to get back to you with results after an investigation because Wazdan have already given their views. I would advise you to try to find a mutually acceptable solution with the OP.

I cannot speak for others but I think the best course of action now would be to engage privately with the OP and agree terms of payout. If the OP accepts an amount of less than 1496 LTC or wants his full 1496 LTC on the basis he kindly requests those that left negative tags on your account to remove them and at the same time you do not accept liability but the payment details are kept hidden from the public chat - then that outcome could suit both yourself and the OP.

Today LTC is trading at just $81 (x1496 = $121,000) but at the time they incidents took place LTC was worth substantially more. I hope you can negotiate a way out of this with the victim to find a solution that both of you find acceptable.

I had never heard of your casino before therefore I took a look. There are no ownership LTD/LLC details are listed, terms and conditions are as vague as can be... no company or personal name or address, nothing... but having said that scam allegations have not been made against your casino to my knowledge. You still have plenty of time to regain lost reputation therefore I hope you engage with the OP as soon as possible to resolve this.

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