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Hi everyone,
I'm  writing you to seek for help as I never  won anything  in my life
and I managed  to win 3 jackpots in LTC casino in 2 months in my favourite slot but the casino blocked my account and never  even sent me an email  to let me know why or letting me know they would have done an investigation.
I discovered that myself from the chat operator who only kept telling me to wait and be patient without telling me what  was going beside that they were checking  with the game provider of the winnings were legitimate.
To start with i have played over 15k in on this casino, opened 4 accounts as everytime i was playing too much i put my account on time out as the  chat operator refused to close my account.
I have read the site F&Q and it states that LTC casino  highly  suggest the opening of new accounts, I can share the link or the screenshot.
I initially  won a jackpot but unfortunately  lost it all playing it again as their withdrawal option are 15 ltc daily ,a good way for the casino to get their money back.
I have played a lot and spend a lot of time playing  at the same slots as this is my taste  and after 3 more accounts between  breaks ( everytime I lost lot i put the account on break) and when I wanted to play again I opened a new one  which was allowed. At one point  I started to believe  the games were rigged as the amount of money and time spent  didn't  make sense on not getting any wins and tried to close my account but the chat operators  told me they couldn't and wheni mentioned  that vulnerable  players were at risk ge ruthlessly told me :  " just don't  play".
They eventually  removed the break option too.
I did complained as i felt just because a casino is not licensed they coyld have be more sensible about problem gamblers, but tthey didnt care at not point the banned or blocked my account as I kept playing more money  trying to win some of the money lost. I have wasted well over 15k  till one day i  managed  to win 2 jackpots between days ,one of 300 ltc and than i kept playing  with max bet ( there is not restrictions  on max bet ) and I win the biggest jackpot ; 900 Ltc .
I can't describe my happiness as I'm a big looser in gambling and never won a dime and felt God was on my side for once!
Little prepared me for what came next!
it has been two weeks that my account has been closed.
The casino never email me to let me know that they had to do an investigation, I discover that trhough the chat operator,who simply told me to be patient and wait as I would have recieved an email after the game provider would have checked the winning in case of cheating.

I never won anything big so I felt safe and thought perhaps was the  casino procedure, eventough I thought was strange that they didn't  email me to let me know.
I waited a week and not sign from management and the chat operator kept telling me the same mantra,so I decided to contact the game provider to see at what point they were with the investigation.

The game provider  emailed me back that the checks were done and they instructed the casino ,but the chat operator denied the claim ,till I send the a proof of the email and then they said to keep wait till the managers would email me.
They never did.
So I open a complaint in a gambling site and magically the rappresentative replied saying that the game provider could have been wrong because they had issue with another slot.
They say they have reason to believe I was writing from uk but they weren't sure as that would have make any difference  if they promote  players to use vpn and anonymity.
They said that I could have used a bug or a special software to trick the system and lots slandering assumptions.

Now I would like to know how can be possible that a  casino  refuse to close an account when a player asks for it but they close it and ban the ip once the player wins lots of money?
I have 1496 LtC in my account and it is a lot of money for me and the fact that the casino is using so many excuses  when they brag to be an anonymous casino, they promote  the use of vpn and multiples  emails.
There is plenty of unlicensed  casino  that are honest and i really want to believe that LTC is acting in good faith but of they were why they never made any sort of communication with me?
How can it be possible  that the game provider is wrong?
I know for a fact I did not cheat, I'm  not that clever,  I wish I was but  I can't make bugs, and  the only bugs I know are animals.
Is there anyone that can put me in direct contact  with the management?
I can prove that I'm  not a gang as they trying to picture me with.
I am amaze that if one spends a fortune they are ok with but once they wins and yes I did win the jackpots but I played lots of money and mostly lots of time.
Did they assume was impossible to win? this how I felt when I kept loosing,yet they  got my money from my deposits and took the winnings.
How can a casino acts in such ways?
I can provide the screenshot of my last jackpots winning as I couldn't  believe it myself .
How come the casino is acting this way?
I would like to know of anyone had similar experiences.
I have seen a post of someone winning another jackpot and wondering if they went through the hell im going through.
It is not fair as they happily took my hard earn money and still have my  one of life time winnings and not even the  decency to keep me updated and on top of that they banned my IP address.

I would like to know if anyone can put me in touch with the casino managers of LTC casino because casino like that give crypto casinos a bad names.

Thanks everyone for the time spent reading my post.

Best regards.


https://imgur.com/a/0vdF1py

This deposits are only for the first account and one can see opening date and cooling off date too, to actually put every single transactions s going to be looooong!!

https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqc

https://imgur.com/a/Ib5vNPm

I have lots more if is needed.


Take your time and read the  pages of this thread before you decide to support or not to support this flag.

Their behavior raised many red flags and unless LTC wants to share the game provider findings and give real updates about the scam accusation i have opened this flag will not be withdrawn.

 Here below the scam accusation form:

What happened:

I have won a 1496Ltc  at Ltc casino after winning twice the jackpots  within days one of which was won with max bet after spending well over 15k in this site from January first till end of Feb. The casino said i have won 3 jackpots on a row which is not true i have won a small jackpot at the beginning when i first signed in and lost all the money and the last two were within days after play lot of money and spent lot of time playing the same slot .
The casino has blocked my account after winning 900Ltc biggest jackpot and never contacted me to even let me know that they kept my winnings and blocked me and  i had to open various complaints to get the management attentions as even the chat provider kept me in the dark.
The casino, only then, they told me that my account was under investigation. It is over a month and even-tough the game provider has done the checks and send them an official statement they are refusing to share the game provider findings and also the game history inspection made by casino guru rep, which also found nothing out of the ordinary.

Scammers Profile Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3408346

Reference Link:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59516351#msg59516351

Amount Scammed: 1496LTC
Payment Method: LTC
Proof of Payment:

https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqc

https://imgur.com/a/Ib5vNPm  

PM/Chat Logs: Management never reply directly to me but  only via the sites where i actually complained, all their answer are in the reference link.

Additional Notes:Please check my scam accusation post to find all the proves i have posted.   I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved.

That's a lot of money and it's really a big concern if you cannot withdraw that amount, what I don't like is they are trying to find you at fault so they can deny your withdrawals they are delaying your withdrawals and to the point that accusing you that you could be using special software, you have a case here and if they cannot give a good explanation then it's time to tag this account and warn the community about this accusation.

Or you are the scammer.
Lets take a look at your post history:
https://loyce.club/archive/members/281/2819156.html

According to your posts, you have been scammed by luckyfish.io and now here.
And they 'owe' you about $150000
Any reason you have deleted so many of your old posts?

-Dave

you have to follow the proper format:

Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0)


and let's wait to hear what LTC casino will say about this case


this is strange, most of the posts he deleted are from 2020, maybe it was a case in which he didn't see hope anymore, as I don't know anything about the case so I can't comment on anything, but only about this recent case I'm waiting to hear from the side from LTC casino

There should be an explanation why he deleted these posts especially if his posts are all about accusations on one casino his deleted posts could be reference about his experience on that casino unless if those deleted posts are false allegations, his accusations against LTCCASINO seem legit, but he should post them in the right format.

Hi there, I'm not a acammer ,firstly.
The post I deleted had not sense to be there anymore as they were old comments about lucky fish  writing  fake reviews.

Why do u find it so strange  that a casino scam you?
Also I have proof of playing so much money and mostly that I have won.

Luxkyfish was two years ago and I was not the only one scammed.

I have not poast since and since then luckyfish remove  his casino from uk ip  as rhey had not license all along and i guess they go caught eventually.

LtC casino siaid that are doing an investigation  eventough the game provider did the checks, its a lot of money, why would I have spent so much  money if  i was a bug maker or using a trick software?

i understand a casino should make an investigation but after 2 weeks ,and rhe game provider prove you can't  make up I used a software because  i didn't  ,i can hardly  upload a pic!

I have nothing to hide, i did complained  about luckyfish  and in the past i complained about some others casino if they acted ruthlessly or unfairly, why shoudl i  be call a scammer to try to arise a complaint?

i have won this money playing  and i should get  pay ,very simple.

Hi there, thanks for the format.

i would like to ask if i have to put every single blockchain transaction  as its a  big amount and they are in my laptop in uk, im not there at the moment  as i had to fly out as my mother had a stroke, but ill be back in Uk tomorrow  night and ill be able to put them all if is needed.

Unfortunately  the casino blocked my account as it would have be easier for me to copy and paste all the transactions i made.
Nevertheless I'll  do it if is needed as i have them all and they are for sure well over 15k .

I'm  not askimg my deposit back but my winnings ,but happy to add anything  that is needed to back up my case.

The casino has only reply to a forum where i first raise the complaint since they never  teply to my email when i first email them and the chat operator  refused to give any infos and now they even ban my ip.

My worries are if they were an honest casino why they wouldn't  let me know  they blocked my account  for investigation?

Its all very fishy for me.

The fact that they doubted where i play from, they also  used a piece of conversation i have used when I complained  to them on not having a  licence  and not looking after  vulnerable  players as when i asked to close my account to the chat operator they refsue to close my account.

And once i have won they are also using this as excuses  beside making assumptions  that i used a trick software, they could have close my account when I first  complained but they  didnt as they realised i was playing  lots and lots of money.

If that was so important  why they  didn't ban my account ? Instead they are trying  to use any excuse ,on top of that even the fact that i have open 4 accounts.

They literally promote the casino in their F&Q stating you can't  open multiple  accounts im many casinos but you can at LTC casino.

They really truly promote this limitless casino, with not ID checks use of vpn pen,, with fast withdrawals  and multiple account's  options but once u win the very first things they promoted seem to be an issue for them, this  is the reason I upload some of the parts on their F&Q.

The only concern  they should have is if i cheated to win the jackpot,  and they can only make assumptions  and I'm  100% they can't  prove i used a software because i didnt thats why I'm  in good faith.

i can accept to wait but the fact that they never even acknowledge  my emails is extremely worrying, as if they had intentiosn to pay why ignore me and not explainig the situation?

Also why the chat provider  denied the game provider  emailed them back when they did?  

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The casino also removed  the time out option  which they had when I first discovered  the casino, now u can't  have a break and the chat operator  says they can't  cose the account ,and if u confront  them about exploiting vulnerable  players they tell you to just don't play.

Sadly  enough  they can close the account when they have to pay ! The irony!

Of course there is ,the casino is not longer visible  in the uk  so not point of have the complaints.
i wsx 2 years without  actually gambling ,using a previous  complaint  does not make me a scammer i believe.

When it's all about scam or complaint whether unresolve or not you should not delete it, it will be a reference for the reputation of the casino every complaint should still be online unless the casino cease to exist, I would like to remain partial on your issue until LTCCASINO go here to explain their side of the story, but since the accusations involve a huge amount fo money and LTCCASINO is not a stable casino when it comes to reputation, I marked this casino as high risk and it's up to players to decide if they want to play and take the risk.

You seem to be using some casino review site of LTC Casino as proof that they allow the use of multiple accounts and VPNs. I don't think that will work and that's not proof. I took a quick glance at LTC Casino's TOS (https://www.ltccasino.com/terms-and-conditions) and couldn't find any mention that players are allowed to create multiple accounts or use VPN. Can you show me where it says that in the official TOS?

It's hard to follow everything you wrote in OP but you seem to hint at there being a problem that you are from the UK. According to their TOS, that shouldn't be the case as they don't have any territorial restrictions for players unless they reside in regions where crypto is banned.

https://www.ltccasino.com/terms-and-conditions

Have you notified the LTC casino account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3408346) on Bitcointalk and made them aware of this thread? If not, I think you should do that.

It's hard to comment on whether or not you were scammed because you haven't posted any proof from your account, proof of the winnings (except that screenshot that probably won't qualify as proof), and there are no logs of your conversation with the casino support staff. If your account has been frozen, you need to ask to regain access to it so you can provide some proof. 

hi there,  the multiple  account is actually on the F&Q of LtC casino site, not a review but from the actual  site. page 13 of the site F&Q .

https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/can-i-have-multiple-accounts-in-a-bitcoin-casino/f
I opened a scam accusatuon under advice of someone here in this forum, as i acrually opened  a post to seek for help and advice as the casino said they were doing an investigation but the management has never even wrote an email to me from the day they  blocked my account.

i know for a fact I did not win cheating and tehy must have some software  who can detect  trickery,  this im not sure as is something i totally ignorant about it and I'm  not scare if they do check ups as I have nothing to hide ,I'm  simply illiterate  on technical issues, it took me a bit to understand how to upload my pics in imgrum.com.

Unfortunately  thr management has not reply to even one of my emails and the chat operator  has banned my IP and I'm  not in the uk and im using my phone  so i can't  even use an vpn to see if I can speak with the chat operator.

The stuff i have sent is screenshots I have taken as i can't  access my account and the management  is totally silent and does not reply to emails.

I would rather deal with the issue directly  instead of doing this publicly but the casino has been ignoring  me totally.

Ill try to send a private msg as u advice as i still give the benefit of yhe doubt to the casino as i did have few withdrawals with not issue and i juts want to be reassured by them and updated.

I could send the proves of the enldess deposits i made once im back im the Uk in two days im flying back tomorrow  night and i have all the blockchain transactions  in my laptop in the Uk.

i have not issue to send iD identification, or whatever they need,I'm  genuine individual and for sure not an hacker or a bug maker  of some sort.

The casino in the other site where I first raise the concern said they were going to investigate further  beside the checks of the game  provider.

They did made assumptions that I could have been a gang or a scammer because  I open 4 different accounts, but the reason why I did that is to stop myself playing as everytime  I did a long session i lost so much money and put my account on time out for long time and reopen another account  once I was ready.

And before  I did that I actually checked if the casino allowed that and they did.

Anyways,im going  to see if they will reply to me via private message.

Thanks for your help.

There's a previous thread where the gambler told he won 550.000 Doge ltccasino big win in Booming games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377941.0) assuming he didn't comeback to the thread, he's fine or just paid shills.

AFAIK this casino is really anonymous, means you don't have to submit KYC, can using multiple accounts, VPN etc. So if they ask you to provide such requirements, it just defeat their own rules.

I leave neutral tag and hope they will respond in this thread, otherwise I will update with negative one. Also there's no proof about your accusations.

Hi there, my account  has been blocked and I can't  access  it.
However ill be able to add all the transactions I have made once I'm  back in the UK as they are all in my laptop.
Beside the screenshot that I have won the last jackpot I posted the email  that the game provided  confirmed that they did the verification  of the winnings.

The multiple  accounts  was  something  was mentioned  by the casino to make me sound like I was doing something  illegal  when they promote  multiple accounts and vpn the same as they where doubting I was playing from the uk as if would  have make any difference  if I was playing  from elsewhere  since they  promote  the use of a vpn pen,and besides  I  wouldn't  have any issue to prove that I live in the UK .

The biggest concern for me above all is to have my account  close and not receiving any emails  with why and what's the follow up procedure, this made me worried the most.

As I mentioned  before I have not issue from them to find any illegal  use of software  as I didn't  so if they are honest all should be OK as they can't  find what it can't  be found from my side.

I wouldn't  even come here if they acknowledged  me even once but now after two weeks I feel the only way to get them to speak to me directly  is to make the matter public as if they are not honest  it will help other players  the pain I'm  going through right now.

Hopefully  they are in good faith  as I am.

No matter how much you try, the casino can keep asking something new every day until you are tired. They can even ask you a letter from president confirming your identity at the end because when joining you agreed to their tos which say they can demand anything during KYC. I am shocked casinos are getting way with such things really. This forum is useless to be honest because 90% of the trusted members are reluctant to believe that casinos can scam and remaining 10% are paid by the casino themselves.

I think eventough many might differ  that a casino should be exposed if they  refuse to pay players.
I realised by many comments that someone had the audacity to call me scammer because I have made complaints about another casino. My question is why a player should be considered a scammer of they had issues with a casino?
I do not own a casino and im not a promoter, and I came in this site to have advice on how to behave  as I really want to believe  this casino is not another ruthless  unlicensed  casino.

Majority  of people  in this site has been  extremely helpful and hopefully  the casino  manager will  reply to  me ,I tried  to message  them via private  message  but they remove the option to be contacted  by newbies.

Never seen a casino  so unresponsive in my life.

I truly hope the matter will  be solved soon, for now I just hope that whoever  reads this thread will think twice before  Registering  because  the way the all matter has been dealt is shameful, definitely  not the casino they pretend to be.


Thanks  for your  comment btw.

@OP You have not even mentioned URL of the portal you are bringing allegation against. May be follow this thread to write a proper Scam Accusations - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0.

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Strange that he doesn't pay for advertising here on the forum and doesn't run a signature campaign here on the forum and keeps posting to promote his site. I'm not accusing him of anything, but I'm wondering if he has enough money to pay players who win a high amount of money

OP you have to wait for him to enter the forum to answer your accusation

That link doesn't work. It redirects to this: https://www.ltccasino.com/cryptocasino/fan-tan-live/.
But I found the article you mentioned on the 13th page of the FAQ section and the information is correct. They mention that you can have multiple accounts. However, we still don't know the real reason why your account got closed. Your multiple accounts and location shouldn't be the reason. If they are accusing you of taking advantage of some bug, I guess they have to explain how and what you did.

Yeah, do that. The forum representative needs to be aware of an issue and the casino should share their side of the story.

That would be good and will give some credibility to your claims. Proof is still needed that the address you deposited to belongs to the casino.

Hello, Dear Player and Forum Members


Sorry for late reply - last days I was busy with replying OP's threads all over internet. So, regarding the issue.

LTC Casino constantly strives to provide the most user-friendly experience in the world of crypto gambling. Therefore, we ensure instant payouts according to the limits stated in our Terms and Conditions. As you have noted, you enjoyed the same treatment with your previous winnings at LTC Casino. We also do not require verification, as we consider it a crucial aspect of a crypto casino.
 
Unfortunately, it makes LTC Casino attracting not only to genuine players but also to fraudsters who seek to exploit vulnerabilities, such as game bugs, that may arise through no fault of ours. In exceptional circumstances, we reserve the right to conduct an investigation for up to three months, as stated in our rules. However, this does not mean that the investigation will necessarily take that long, as we have no intention to unduly withhold players' winnings.

LTC Casino has paid out much larger amounts in the past and continues to do so. Still, we believe that in the current state of affairs it would be appropriate to conduct a more thorough investigation since the confluence of factors has led us to doubt. We will be glad to start paying out winnings as soon as we make sure that there is no fraudulent activity on the customer's part.

We employ an anti-fraud system following global online gambling standards. As you may know, no software is devoid of bugs, including online casino games. It's in our best intentions to equally protect ourselves and our players.

Our system has associated four accounts that we believe belong to the same person. This information was considered in the further analysis. It came to our attention that in a short period of time, the player has won three maximum jackpots in the Power of Gods: Hades slot from the Wazdan studio. Given the low probability of such an event, we asked Wazdan to verify the results. The provider's statement suggests that only a few rounds have been analyzed. However, we do not rule out that a possible slot error may arise at longer distances, which were not examined in this case.

Presently, we keep expecting a more detailed response from the studio. We have disabled all Wazdan games at LTC Casino pending the investigative findings. Although the provider insists that there was no malfunction during the specified rounds, we consider this measure reasonable based on our previous experience.

Recently, LTC Casino fell victim to a group of scammers who exploited a bug in Felix Gaming slots. Back then, the provider also initially refused to acknowledge any problems with its software. It only became apparent to them several months later after the bug was identified in more casinos. We understand that providers may be reluctant to recognize fallacies, given that it entails reimbursements, damage to reputation, and other risks. As of today, LTC Casino does not support Felix Gaming and Wazdan titles.

We cannot exclude the possibility that the provider may not be aware of the malfunction until it is pushed to conduct a more detailed analysis. It is our understanding that the provider's own investigation is currently underway, as we requested detailed information about the player's bets two weeks ago and still waiting for the answer.

During our own investigation, we couldn't help but notice suspicious patterns in the player's activity. Firstly, the player has opened at least 4 accounts at LTC Casino. From the losing accounts, they contacted support and demanded a return of their deposits, threatening with reputational damages, as shown on the screenshot below.

https://casino.guru/pict/246841/mycoolimage-244305498776-1646856240539.png

Subsequently, the player used one of the accounts from which they had previously blackmailed LTC Casino to obtain information about the payout in the question. This serves to reconfirm that the accounts belong to the same person.

More importantly, from all the accounts, the player participated in the same game, namely Power of Gods: Hades, without any exceptions. To be clear, only from the last account they placed about 50 thousand bets, while the length of individual game sessions exceeds 16 hours.

Wazdan games have an autospin feature with a max limit of 1,000 spins. Thus, the player's presence is required to continue the game throughout the whole session, even using the feature. Given the length of the sessions and non-stop betting in one game, we suspect that the player could use specialized software to exploit a bug if there is any. What's more, players have to reactivate autospins manually, so we expect to see some delay between the autospin sessions. However, we do not see such a delay in the betting history. In other words, the game went on continuously for thousands of spins without any interruptions. It only confirms our hypothesis about some kind of software being used.

We continue to analyze the betting history and await a detailed response from Wazdan. Nevertheless, from what we can perceive now, the behavior of this player drastically differs from the usual gaming activity of other players at an online casino.

Furthermore, the same player has created several dozen complaints against other casinos on gambling forums, trying to reclaim their deposits under various pretexts, including blackmail, like in our case. Most of these complaints were rejected as unfounded by the administration of the respective websites.

The customer claims to be a UK player. Although we have no way to verify this claim, since we do not request documents as part of our standard procedure, we also question it. Our casino is inaccessible for UK IP addresses, while the player's login history shows completely different countries. The player's writing style on online forums and in live chat further confirms our assumption. Although we are not in a position to discriminate against any player and treat all customers equally, this makes the matter even more suspicious.

While pressuring our support, the player also indicated that their Coinbase account was banned after playing at LTC Casino. Please note that Coinbase terms prohibit any transactions for gambling purposes. You can find numerous complaints from Coinbase users who had their accounts blocked for the same reason. Thus, the player violated the exchange rules and naturally got their account suspended. This had to happen eventually while playing at LTC Casino cannot be considered as a standalone reason.

https://casino.guru/pict/246842/mycoolimage-936945429134-1646856302332.png

As always, we are glad to pay out any legitimate winnings and regularly do so, setting high standards for the crypto gambling industry. However, we have every reason to believe that we are dealing with an individual or group of individuals trying to profit from exploits and other dubious practices at online casinos. We are continuing our investigation and will make an appropriate decision based on the results.

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He did not.


We are not running signiture compaign because I see how it works - crowd of members is jumping from thread to thread posting some abrakadabra without reading previous posts and replies. I may show many examples even from our casino's thread. We do not want to take part in this spam conveyor.

We are paying even bigger winnings on daily basis. Look at my reply on complaint. This issue is under investigation.


That player was proved scammer. It was confirmed by gaming provider Felix gaming.


We allow VPN, multiple accounts and we will never ask for KYC. In this case multiple accounting is just an additional prove of possible cheating - OP played ONLY ONE slot for 16+ hours in a row and used several accounts playing same slot. read my reply on previous page pls, it will be clear for you.

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Thanks for such a detailed reply and telling us your side of this story.

But according to your FAQ, having multiple accounts is not against the rules of LTC Casino, correct?

Considering how difficult it is to win jackpots in slot games, I agree that it looks suspicious if one player manages to win 3 times in relatively quick succession. I also understand your desire to investigate if everything was done in a legitimate way or if there is indeed an abuse by the player. Would you be OK with showing proof of the communication you had with the game provider about this particular incident and their reply to you? 

Have they made a promise to further inspect the rounds that the player in question played?

OK, that makes sense.

Like I mentioned previously, there shouldn't be a problem owning multiple accounts on LTC Casino. But I don't see a reason why the player should get his money back. He gambled and lost. It's that simple. If he has a gambling problem, he should seek professional help. Threats like that certainly don't help his case.

Is there absolutely no pause between those cycles of 1.000 autospins even by a few seconds? Let's say one autospin cycle ends at 17:05:44, does the next one begin exactly at that time or is there a few seconds difference between them. Can you provide proof of those claims by showing the betting history? 16 hours continued spinning without breaks and no pause between cycles sounds like an impossible task.   

I am curious why UK players can't play on LTC Casino because according to your rules, there shouldn't be such restrictions. Anyone that doesn't reside in a country where crypto is prohibited is allowed to play on LTC Casino. 

That's not your fault even if that turns out to be the exact reason his Coinbase account got suspended. That's just one of the disadvantages of using a centralized exchange.

Not so long ago another provider was exploited by cheaters, you may read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385638.msg59245546#msg59245546

Playing for 16 hours with not a second pause together with winning three jackpots is a bit suspecious.



Yes, that is correct. But please understand that we do not blame player in using multiple accounts. It is legal. We just find suspicious playing same slot from 4 different accounts at the same period of time and winning three jackpots in a row. That is the reason for investigation.




Yes, no pause between spins. That is why we suspect using software. I have sent the file with his gaming history to administration of Casino Guru website where OP initiated complaint. They investigate it too, you may check there.


UK players can play. Site is banned by UK but players may use VPN. We just have suspicions that player is from UK and played from UK by some reasons that I can not make public before we finish investigation. By the way, take a look at his language style. We do not care where is he from, but if he lies even in each small detail that makes some sence.



And ofcource it goes without saying that we will not hide any information after investigation will be finished, including official letters from the provider. Just give us some time to finish investigation.

You could have provided the link, but never mind, I managed to find it. If anyone is interested, this is the link (https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited) for the player's complaint on Casino Guru.

The player might live in the UK but not be a native speaker. I don't think bambolina's mother tongue is English.

OP has no other choice than to be patient. If he has nothing to hide, that's what the investigation will hopefully show.

First of all, not taking sides here, as we do not have all the information from both parties.

I want to point out some thoughts regarding the probability of such an event - 3 Jackpots in a time frame of 2 months. (with two jackpots in the range of a day).

As per previous posts, the OP played extensively for two months with multiple accounts + some sessions exceeding 16+ hours on only one slot game. And probably with ultra-fast speed feature, which Wazdan game provider offers. (with default/medium variance version, as I can see from OP screenshot)

Power of Gods: Hades slot from the Wazdan studio has a 3000xbet Grand Jackpot. With today's modern ultra-high variance slots exceeding a max of even 100k +  bet, this is not something considered extraordinary. (For example, one of the latest NL games has a 33333xbet max win, with a chance of 1:4million).

Now to the point, how many spins played OP on that particular slot? (including all four accounts - lifetime). With this information (including chances of a 3000xbet win given by Wazdan), I can easily calculate the probability of winning three times x3000 bet in two months.

I have seen two times 5000xbet wins in a few hours timeframe. Additionally, I have seen a player posting winner screenshots playing the Dead or Alive NetEnt game literally almost every single day (In the same range or even higher than 3000x bet size wins.) He played on multiple devices/multiple casinos reaching for a top-payout wildline.

But, all in all, as the number of spins is higher - theoretical RTP is/should be closer to the mean. It's just math. Winnings and losses should not be crucial for the casino. It's a number of bets/spins placed.

Dear Ltc.

finally a reply. Thank you.

Firstly I would like to know why u have never sent an email to let me know that you were blocking my account for further check ups and explain the casino procedure?
Surely transparency is what your casino strives for so my question is why u just block my account and did not even let me know?

It has been almost 3 weeks now that my account is close and u have never reply to one of my emails, i would also have a copy of all the ID transaction  have made between all my 4 accounts.

Yes i did open 4 account but i never used them all together and u very know that as u can simply check as i did put the previous account in time out as your chat operator refused to closed my accounts and when i confronted him because of the danger of exploiting vulnerable players i was told ruthlessly to just don't play as the casino wont close your account. .. unless the player wins than for sure they close it!

The piece of screenshot was taken out of context as i was denied the closure of my account  and if u were not happy with that complain you could have close my account or banned my Ip as  you did once i have won lots of money, i guess it was convenient for you to have a player playing so much money not stop and losing constantly.

Perhaps you should offer a  reality check time and re offer the time out break option which u have removed now but u did have it as all my account except the last one was put by me in time out as every time i was loosing constantly i took a break and never ever use more than one account once, you know that and imply otherwise will not change this as i have a prove of my time out requests and this was simply the reason why i open 4 accounts.

Also you are making a big deal that i have played the same and only slot for a very long time, and yes this is true and i have not read in your casino rules site it was forbidden,i  always play the slot i like and the reality is very sad and simple i kept playing because i have lost well over 15k and you know it and i was trying to get some money back.

it's extremely sad that your casino did not raise a single issue till i was losing and making tons of deposit and  without a piece of evidence i m treated like a criminal even tough the game provider run the checks already.

I have sent another email to the provider and i am curious to see what they have to say as i m so sure i have done nothing wrong and would be interesting to see what they say.

Btw i have not written all over the internet but only two forums and only because the management refuse to reply to one single email. i would have spare you that if u would have acted like other casinos which is with transparency.

Also since this is a public forum i would like  you to email me all the transaction i have made in my accounts with the block chain Id since you have blocked my account .

Lat but not least i would like to know if you have a telegram account as i was contacted by a copper member privately and advised to contact @LtcCasinoSupport for help and i was asked for my Id and 5% fee upfront an the person in that chat said was the son of the casino owner. I have all the screenshots of this chat as the person was extremely rude and i would love to believe they are scammers and they are using the telegram i wrote, please check it out as someone in this forum sent me this telegram contact and i refuse to believe that is a genuine contact as i never heard of pay 5% fee prior to unblock my account, im happy to send you the whole chat as it was shocking.


Anyways if you could kindly give an ETA of when my money will be paid i would really appreciated.It has been almost 3 weeks now and i would like to know what other investigations u have to make as i did use only one slot  and had the winning the week  you close my account.
I am not tech savy but if anyone in this forum can advise how long a  casino should take to verify if i have made or used a bug or a trick software? Unfortunately im too ignorant and if anyone could advise it would be immensely appreciated.

All am asking you is transparency as u sold your casino as the most fair casino in the web but so far in my experience you are anything but fair.

Hopefully you will deliver what your promise to players.

Best regards.

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One last thing.

You have wrote : [/quote]

We allow VPN, multiple accounts and we will never ask for KYC. In this case multiple accounting is just an additional prove of possible cheating - OP played ONLY ONE slot for 16+ hours in a row and used several accounts playing same slot. read my reply on previous page pls, it will be clear for you. 

Why u allowed multiple accounts ?
Why u have removed the time out options?
Would the bitcointalk community want  a prove that my last 3 accounts where under time out and i couldn't access those account as need to take a break.
Would it be the case that you did offer initially a time out break to see like you cared about vulnerable players but allowing multiple account would allowed players to play again?
Let's be really honest here LTC casino, you can't make rules and play them against honest players because they won money as it was never an issue the opening of this accounts as it was never an issue i have played one slot only ( some players do have favorite slots and i did not find a single rule that i couldn't).

Also again i would love to repeat myself and i am not denying that i played a very long time with the same slot as i hopped and wanted to prove myself that i would have won eventually.

Perhaps you should add an option that after a while the player account gets a cool off time to protect them and also the casino in case they win a jackpot as in my eyes the main problem is to payout this big win, and it might not be big for you but is life changing for me especially all the money i have lost in your casino.

All i am asking is transparency as  such behavior give crypto casinos a bad name and making assumptions without proving a tricked the system is playing wrong.

Why would i be so strong about this if i cheated, i am so confident u will never find a thing as i did not cheat i simply chased my loses and God made a miracle.

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Just for your information i  live in the Uk since 2002, i am not from the Uk but i work and live here and that shouldn't be an issue since i have rights to live in this country or your casino discriminate legal immigrants?
I have absolutely not issue to prove my identity and i offer that already  as it might stop your weird statements and assumptions.

Or are you telling only English people from Uk can play, am i missing something in here?
I have legal rights to live in the uk, or you think i travel to gamble in the Uk?? i am very confused by your statement.

it appears to me that you are moving from the main issue is to prove that i have cheated the game and in 3 weeks you haven't be able to prove it even after the game provider did the checks and you know why??

i did not cheated. You are making it sound so weird that a gambler players one slot only or plays for so many hours??


I have won a small jackpot when i first signed in few months ago and lost it all, an the last two to be honest i was amazed but htey were i think one day to another and yes it is true i played long hours. 16 hours straight? I don't think so but again i am not going to lie i play long hours hoping to win more with the max bet.

welcome to the gamblers world where we lose money but we live in hope to win.

Why don't you share the game history and the amount of money i have deposited in you site in two month that will make my case more credible and you assumptions less credible.

I do accept the investigation as i have nothing to hide but not slender. u can dig and dig but eventually u will have to come to terms i did not cheat and pay.



All   i am asking this casino is to not invent stuff and please share what the game provider replied.
I have wrote to them also and hopefully they will reply soon.

Funnily enough the game provider replies to me but the managers of this casino never even bothered to send me an email to let me know they were doing an investigation they just blocked my account with my money  and acknowledging me only because i made this issue public.

Most fair casino in the net...not.








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@bambolina
The previous reply made by the casino representative suggests that all the proof will be made public once the investigation ends. They have asked the game provider for more details regarding the rounds you played. According to the rules (that you agreed to when you signed up), such investigations can take up to 3 months. Hopefully, you won't have to wait that long.

I don't understand your fixation on the time-outs. You have mentioned multiple times that the staff refused to close your accounts or put them on time-out. Let's not kid ourselves. That wouldn't have stopped you from creating other accounts on LTC Casino or somewhere else. Only a strong attitude not to gamble can stop you from wasting money like that.

Don't trust anyone contacting you in private over PM claiming to be person X. I seriously doubt that the person who contacted you has any connection to the casino. The site's support page doesn't list any Telegram account or other social media accounts. Their is only a live chat and email support. Don't fall victim to such scams. Someone figured that you have plenty of money and you are desperate, so they want to take advantage of that.

Do you have any comments on the casino's claims that there are no breaks between your autospin cycles? They said not even a second. One round of 1.000 spins ends and another starts immediately for 16 hours apparently. 

the only reason i mentioned the time out was to explain that i put each account i open in time out to stop gambling and i never used more than account  together as they are making it sound, that would be suspicious but i did not use not even once more than account at the same time , this  is the reason i open 4 as i took breaks between each account. and i can share the confirmation email of each account that i blocked myself.

The telegram chat was advised by a member of this site suggesting this telegram chat but as soon the guy on the chat acted like a crook and ask me 5% fee i smelt scam and left the chat, screenshoted the convo to be safe.

Regarding the break with the autospin i never use autopsin, not even once, i kept playing , 16 hours to be honest im not sure , but i did play a lot and in  all truth my mother had a stroke and gamble was numbing my pain so i kept playing for not thinking. I was long time without gambling and i was an i am in a  lot of pain in my soul, so yes  i did gamble for a crazy amount of hours , 16 without a break im not sure as i spend days like a zombie as i couldn't visit her.

I'll be happy for the casino to share my game history as maybe some people with some expertise can help. I did not cheat for sure and the first jackpot i won it when i first sign in  2 months ago , it wasn't very big but didn't last long as lost all the money again.

The last two did happened a day close to each other one was 300 an the last one 900 as i maxed out the bet and played even more as some gamblers are delusional and they think they will win forever , if the casino didn't block my account i would probably would have lost all the money again as the very first one as in one point i reached 100ltc and lost it all again as you can't time out yourself anymore and the max withdrawals is 15ltc per day so easy to play it all again.

I  am  a bad looser but not a cheater, i will not accept the slender of being called cheater because i did not cheat. i could think exactly the same about them since i know i didn't cheat and i find the whole situation absurd .

Hopefully the game provider will be able to clarify the matter and perhaps the casino manager will finally send me an email and congratulate for my wins.


My question is why the casino is not bothered when the players plays for a crazy amount of hours and lots of money but suddenly  find it peculiar if they win?
I honestly would have thought casino have some degree of technology to detect bugs or trick software.

The game provider run the check that they requested, they confirmed that to me via email, if there is more to be done so be it, but what i would appreciate from the casino is transparency  and if they make assumption to have facts to back them up , fortunately they won't be able as i know they can't prove something that i didn't do , but they can't treat people as criminal without proving that they are guilty.

Before now i never won anything and this is the first time i actually won something and actually big which will be helpful to look after my mother medical bills i truly believe God must have been looking after me in this time of grief.

I just wish some casino owners would treat people as humans and not cash cows that after they take everything they throw you away.

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Yup, i am not English as one can see by the way i write in English but I do live in the Uk and i have rights to live here. :) I am not sure why this would be an issue for the casino as its an anonymous casino and i am playing in a country where gamble is allowed.

I am more than happy that my game history has been shared with the casino guru rep as i have nothing to hide and if casino want to share every single blokchain transaction of every penny i have deposited it would show how genuine i am as a cheater wouldn't have  spend so much money  if they had a magic wand to make appear jackpots.

And the first jackpot wasn't close to the last two almost  two months passed before i won the last two, but yes the last two were maybe a day close to each other but with different bet amount as started to do max bet once i won 300LTC.


It is unreal that i actually won two jackpots so close to each other but again i played no stop as the money i have lost was too much and i kept chasing my loses.

I agree with you partially that Op has deleted his/her post/posts as there was no chance to get any positive effect on that case. And I think OP creates post/posts to blackmail of that site. OP may think if I create scam accusation against them then I may get few money from them as they might be afraid about their reputation.

Op created 4 accounts which is unnecessary. If they can block one account then why they will not others??

Unnecessary information. You became suspicious because you played the same slot on all of your accounts and now they are investigating if some unlawful activities happened.   

Do you want to share the name of that person? Would be good to check his reputation and/or reasons he would suggest something like that.

You are being investigated. A verdict hasn't been made. I don't think the casino called you a cheater. They are suspecting that you might have cheated and/or used some automated software.

Because they like taking money, not giving it away. All casinos do. LTC Casino finds it peculiar that you won 3 jackpots because it's not an easy thing to do.

Then you have nothing to worry about. Be patient until the investigation is over.

So far since they replied to my  posts and they also sent the game history to the other forum i feel a bit more reassured as if there is transparency and communication it should be all ok. 

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Is very strange indeed, but according to LTC CASINO. they allow people to have many accounts, I don't understand that. most of the conflicts I see here on the forum is precisely because people complain and casino owners say they are using too many accounts, but at LTC CASINO things seem to be different, they allow too many accounts, I also don't understand why people need it have many accounts

precisely!

If they do not like that, they should simply forbid that. also my account were put in time out with the max time and only when i was ready to play again i open a new one, i never play with more than one account and they must have check that as my accounts were blocked.

As the way has been described it sound like i was using all the account together which is not the case anyways.

I think the investigation if they had people tricking them is fair , again they are taking very long considering i only play one slot and i did not play for 2 months constantly i took breaks too.

I don't see a problem in having multiple betting accounts unless you are abusing Welcome Bonuses and other benefits that are meant to be for one person each. There is also no advantage of having them. The only reason OP had multiple accounts is because he placed the old ones in some sort of timeout. I assume you can't gamble with them when you do that.

But like I mentioned above. This is not an issue of having multiple accounts and OP should stop mentioning that. The LTC Casino rep only did it to highlight that they noticed similar patterns on all of those accounts. They all played the same slot, but that's not a problem. They are trying to figure out whether or not the jackpot wins are legit or if there was any foul play.   

the question I ask myself:

Why are they taking so long to finish this investigation? I don't believe they have hundreds of clients with a lot of problems that they have to investigate and that's why they're taking a long time to investigate the OP case.

how long does the OP have to wait longer to know the results of the investigation and how we can have proof that the investigation will be honest?

The representative of LTC casino mentioned that

LTC Casino has suspected the use of multiple accounts as ‘possible attempt of cheating’. There is no problem for being a residence of UK, LTC casino aren't going to ask you (OP) to verify your identity. They don't need the information that why you are living in UK and where are you actually belongs to. They only need time to check and verify your bets fully. These verification process takes long time as it depends on the game provider.

@bambolina, kindly stop making the long replies here. Those aren't going to increase the speed of this investigation. We (the forum members) will keep our eyes on this accusation.
@LTC Casino, up to 3 months for the investigation is a bit long time. OP is desperately waiting to see the end of this process. Can you provide any short estimated time to complete the investigation?

The length of the proceedings doesn't depend solely on the casino. It depends on Wazdan - the game provider. They have said that Wazdan has only verified a couple of the rounds that OP played. LTC CASINO has asked that his entire history gets checked because they are suspicious. My guess it that as soon as the game provider sends them the data they need, we will have more info on the case.

That is true. All the accounts they found allegedly show similar patterns, so they are suspecting that OP used automated software or something worse. The words that should be highlighted are suspecting and possible. 

I agree. And please stop posting multiple posts in a row. You are just increasing the workload of the forum administration who has to merge your replies into one post. You can quote multiple people in the same post just like I did here.

Thanks for the advice i'll do that . didn't know long post could have been an issue. Apologies for that.

I have not worries about the game provider  finding an automated software or something even worse as u said, they will put light in the matter if they are really doing the checks.

As long the casino does  the things honestly i am safe. There is not way in earth they can find anything illegal from my side, i wouldn't fight it i was in the wrong.
Again the two jackpot between a day was a surprise to me as well but i simply thought was due the amount of hours and money i have spent and luck.

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Re: LTC CASINO NOT paying winnings . 1496 Ltc to be paid

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@ltccasino its now 3 weeks since  you have locked my account,  is there any sort of updates or Eta time you can give me regarding your investigations.

What the game  provider said about it regarding a rough time, if u could let me know ibwould really appreciate  it.

Thank  you.

I don't think much has changed in the two days since your last post in this thread. Do you have reasons to believe that something has happened in the meantime? The last post on the Casino Guru forum suggests that your data has been sent to the responsible rep in the complaints department.

I can only repeat what I have understood from reading their previous response. The ETA time depends on the investigation and data they receive by the gaming provider. LTC Casino can't possibly know how long that will take. Wazdan might send the requested details tomorrow or in 2 months from now. Put pressure on Wazdan to submit the complete history of all the rounds you played on LTC Casino. That's what LTC casino wants to see and investigate.

Firstly they did not ask in the past few days  to their game provider as they received the first checks from Wazdam  after week one that i have won therefore i am asking to know if they know how long it takes normally since they said is a normal procedure.

The game history at casino guru was sent few days ago, but not at wazdan , or maybe you know something i do not know and i am not sure why me asking the casino would really bother you as every-time i write something you seem really bothered.

It has been 3 weeks i have won and i personally do not know how long this sort of investigations work as never found myself in a situation like that and of course the situation is stressful and i shouldn't be made feel like i am doing anything wrong, and the casino said this a standard procedure for them.

I actually already sent an email to wazman and they haven't replied yet , thank you very much and not worries i am on it as this is a lot of my money so understandably you might not understand how i am feeling about it.

Thanks for your compassionate words once again.

They have already answered you this. Why would they need to ask the game provider again yesterday, today, or tomorrow. Let me quote that part:



I know only what I can read in this thread. I am not bothered by the issue. Every time you quote, mention me, or reply to one of my posts, I get a notification from a bot. I check those notifications regularly and reply back if I think there is something to say. That's why you are seeing many posts from me here.

And I have taken a personal interest in this particular topic because I want to see how it plays out, who is right, and who is lying. I occasionally check the scam accusation and reputation threads and get myself involved if I find something interesting.

They have answered that as well. Up to 3 months or sooner depending on how fast the other party sends them the requested data. That was valid before, it's still valid now, and will be tomorrow.

Thank you.
My last post was actually addressed to the casino and not this person  that keeps putting me down,but every-time i write something he's annoyed . unfortunately the casino never bother to reply to any of my email and this the only way i can kind of communicate with them.

I do not feel is unreasonable to wanted to be updated and surely do not want to bother anyone , but it's clear this person has sided the casino which i am not bothered, i know the truth and  all i want is the casino to keep me updated and informed.

it is my money, the money lost and the money won and the truth will come out but my biggest fear is the honestly of the casino and till now they haven't been able to prove i have cheated and i feel they just buying time for not pay me at the end.
I honestly do not understand why the casino ignored me till i actually made the matter public, and this is  in my eyes are the biggest red flags.

Anyways , thank you as is it is nice not be be judged till proven of being guilty.

Best regards.

Dear Sir/Madam and shitposter,

I will follow any thread I decide to follow. Feel free to not follow me while I follow whatever it is that pleases me. Thank you Madam miss.
You are a semi-illiterate shitposter with below average understanding of the English language. That makes it impossible for you to follow a thread like this and understand what I have written. May I suggest Telegram. There are plenty of rockets and memes of dogs. That should better suit your level. If you believe that I have sided with any party in this particular case, your intelligence is very questionable. I am sorry you don't have the brain capacity to follow the thread.

Have a good night.

If BCsports is not your alt account, it seems you aren't that much cleverer either if you interpret my posts as "siding with the casino". Instead of playing slot games all day, try reading a book. Your logical thinking might improve so you can understand my posts.

unfortunately this has been a black spot on the internet stuff, some casinos and exchanges are always lacking in speed in solving customer problems.. i wonder what kind of super investigation is this that takes 2 or 3 weeks to finish and give the results? We are not talking about war crimes investigation or a murder or kidnapping to justify that it is something complex and for that reason it needs to take some time, we are talking about investigation of a possible problem in a game. Is something unacceptable this whole delay

Exactly.
If players  doubts that the games are rigged or they think the games are not provably  fair there is nothing  that can be done, but when the players  wins  the casino think u cheated.
As I mentioned  before i don't have issues  about the  investigation as i know  they will never  find a bug made by me or even less  luckily  that I made or use a software.
What  the casino  should  do is at least give a real eta as 3 months is unreasonable  time ,especially  because  I have played only one  slots and signed in this site for 2 months and I dud not play every  day fir 2 months.
I personally don't  trust the casino because I had to open a scam and a complaint  post i  two  site for the casino  to let me know why they blocked my account. If I didn't  my account would have  been blocked without even receiving an email of explanation  and this is wrong.
The casino must be transparent and respect  the fact that me the player should be kept informed.

Kindly stop replying to my messages i do not need your abuse , if anyone reading this can help me to block this user i would appreciate as im not here to become the punch-ball of a stranger who have nothing better to do do than offend people to stroke his ego.
Not today or never Satan.

There is an ignore button under every user's profile. Feel free to put me on your ignore list if you don't want to read my messages.

No one is abusing you, certainly not me. But like I said yesterday, you do seem ignorant to realize the difference.
To make it clearer and easier for you to understand, let me say it in simple words. If the investigation proves that the casino unlawfully froze your assets and tried to cheat you, I will be the first to support you and voice my opinion that you should be paid what you are owed. On the other hand, if you are a cheater who took advantage of a vulnerability to cheat the casino, I will be glad if you don't see a penny of your winnings.

Do you understand now how it works?   
I support just actions and hope that the truth will come out. I couldn't care less if you put me on ignore. Even if you do, I will still support you getting your money if that is the right thing to do.   

The purpose of using many accounts mainly scam/spam by taking bonus. But as the casino offering many accounts by the same person that may stands for they are just showing they have many users and/or they are insisting users to create as many account they can and while there is a big chance they will scam those people.

The casino offers zero bonuses, zero!!
on my side i opened 4 accounts as when i needed a break as i was loosing all the time i put the accounts in time out for the max time. Accounts were never used together i always one account at time as i blocked them myself and open new ones when i felt ready to play again. It is not like they make it sound as i neve used the accounts together, they really trying hard to picture me like i am the scammer when they are advertising the multiple accounts.

They clearly benefit for people having multiple accounts and they raised an issue when i won, but when i was losing there was not a single issue.
Also when i first sign in the player could opt for time out option and after 2 months they remove the time out option and when i asked the chat operator to close my account he said it was not possible to close the account , yet when they had to pay my wins they easily banned my IP.
I never seeing anything like that.

What are you talking about? Ltc casino doesn't offer any bonus.. are you just posting for your signature or what?

 A little update for everyone as casino guru representative  checked my game history and found nothing out of  the ordinary.
 
 you can find the reply here: https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited

Game provider just email me that they finished their checks today.



LTC casino , could you please pay my winnings now?

I can prove that the game provider has done the further checks and they emailed the casino has they just emailed me.

https://imgur.com/a/cK9VItq  

If the casino is honest they will finally pay my winnings.

LTC casino please reply to  this post and explain why my account is still close since you did receive the game provider with the further investigation request?


You reputation is now shaking if u do not pay my winnings as you can't find excuses after excuses for not pay my winnings.

Your chat operators said that the casino did not receive the game provider email , but as the first time they did and everyone can see the email the wadzam support team sent me.
Please do the honest thing and pay my winnings now as all the possible checks have been done by two different third party.

Thank you.

That's good news for you. You have passed the first hurdle. LTC Casino should now have the data they requested from Wazdan to be able to check it themselves or at least a status report with the findings.

I will send their casino forum representative a PM to comment on your most recent post and confirm if they have what they asked for. 

Thanks.

Also casino guru rep was sent my game history and they checked it themselves and they did not find anything out of the ordinary, to be honest i am not surprise as i knew nothing dodgy can be found since i wouldn't have a clue , i can barely speak English.
But i am glad another third party proved i did nothing wrong as i understand my word was not enough.

Wonder how long it will take to the casino to pay my winnings as it is now a month on Friday.

I guess it depends on what type of data and information Wazdan provided to LTC Casino. If it's just raw data with no personal opinions or reviews of your bets, I guess someone from LTC Casino's department has to look over this data to understand what it says. If Wazdan included a comprehensive review and summary of all events that took place in the period the casino requested, it should take a shorter amount of time, I guess. 

The game provider said they send what the casino has requested, twice.
hopefully this time it will be enough.


Let's see if they even reply to my post.
So far in a month they totally ignored me and never reply to one email,
Unseen such behavior.

Playing 16 hours in a row with not a second interruption is out of the ordinary.


I haven't got feedback form relevant department yet. I guess they need some time to check it and reply to the provider. I will post in this thread when I get information.

I have played more than 20 hours in a row on stake.com and I can show bet history if needed, more than 25k spins done by touching the phone. It is not out of ordinary when you are addicted, I have done 12 hours in a row this month when I got the monthly bonus, went from 50$ to 4000$ and withdrew 60$. And for sure you have lots of addicted people so it is a lame excuse.

Hopefully you will get your management to pass you the info that the game provider sent to the casino yesterday , the info are 100% been delivered for the second time.

Let's hope this time all this investigations are  enough for the casino for pay the player winnings as it has been a month now.

Sometime us player do win, yes the casino wins all the time but miracles happens too.

This is my first time in my life and i am very happy!

Same!!! they never investigated when i have played soooo many hours and lost all my money, all of sudden they find it out of the ordinary that a gambler spend so many hours playing. They are in the gambling industry and they seem surprise, i wonder if this is the reason that they remove the responsible gambling option.

Really hope this ordeal will end soon.

Good morning LTC casino,

it is now day 3 after the  Game provider sent the extra investigation results to your casino. have you managed to speak with the relevant department?

It has been a months now that the casino has been holding my money , could you please let me know what else is to be investigated since the game provider checked  twice , casino guru checked and in a month time ltc casino had plenty of time to check.

Could you please let me know when my account will be reopen?


Thank you.

God morning LTC Casino,
 its day 5 since the game provider has been sending you the results you have asked for.
Could you please send me some updates?
Also since you are suppose to be the most fair casino in the web would you mind to share their findings in the name of transparency ?
Whoever is reading this post  could you  please notify the LTC casino rep via private message  as the chat operator refuse to help me to get in contact with the management of LTC casino.

Thank you

If I remember correctly what they said in one of their previous posts, all the data will be posted publicly once the investigation ends.

You can send them a PM yourself, unless they have enabled the option not to receive private messages from newbie accounts. I can see that on the Casino.guru discussion, there is a countdown and they still have 2 days (almost 3) to reply. If nothing happens in that time frame, I can send them another message if you want. Don't forget that it's a weekend. Maybe not all of their departments work on Saturdays and Sundays.

i am not able to send a message.

i have tried endless times to speak with some managers through their chats operators as they don't reply to  emails and the chat operator is always rude and the best days he close the chat as soon they seem my post.

here is how good they are in communicating.

https://imgur.com/a/DQqYX18

The funniest part is that the ltc casino here said i never contacted them, which is not true, not even rough casinos act in such a way.
Its 5 days that they have received the  game provider results, they could share their findings if they are so sure i cheated.
The problem is they can't because i didn't cheat and  it by now it simply feels they don't want to pay.

Even the most skeptical has to agree that this is not right and a players should have some sort of updates.

Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

At this time I can acknowledge receiving a response from the provider, however there was no information in the response provided other than the probability of winning the jackpot.

We are continuing to investigate and have resubmitted to the provider a number of questions that need to be answered. These include, among others, the following:

- Did the player change the volatility (the slot provides that option)
- If he did, at what points, is there no correlation between jackpots and changes in volatility.
- Whether there were pauses in the game to change volatility (we assume that the mechanical process of changing volatility involves interruptions of autospins function, accordingly, there must be pauses. If there were no pauses, it may indicate the use of specialized prohibited software.

This is only a number of questions, we can not publish others so as not to harm the investigation.

I think it's obvious to everyone that these questions are essential to the investigation.

As soon as we get the answers and complete the investigation, I will report the results immediately.

Thank you for your understanding and patience.

 :o :o :o

This sounds like some kind of joke, really? this whole time when you contacted the provider had not asked these questions? so all this time what were you waiting for them to answer you? this is looking like you want to buy some time for the user to get tired and give up on this case, if in the real world things worked this way then no one would go to the casino, this is disrespectful to customers, i'm glad i don't use your site, honestly Is very disappointing what I'm reading. I wonder if you were in the OP's shoes how would you feel? days just go by and nothing, you show up later to say nothing. Is very disappointing

Good morning Ltc casino rep,

thanks for your reply.
 Could you please share the response of the probability of winning the jackpot?
I have not use an auto spins even once.

I am not sure what is a volatility can u please explain to me what is this?
However i am glad you have responded.

Also in this months have you send all the possible questions and ask all the possible checks or every time  you have asked the game provider what is needed you ask the  for new stuff?

It has been over a month now and i am not getting how come every time the game provider replies to you it seems that new requests are made to them if what you are looking for  is not given.( cheating finding)

At what point you will accept the fact that there was not cheating?

I am telling you that because i did not cheat and it feels the casino is keeping asking further checks because not cheating hasn't been found.
Is the game provider not delivering your requests or you are asking more stuff every time the casino does not find cheating?

I would have thought this last time was going to be the last time, so i need to understand if you will ask more requests to the game provider once they give you what you ask for, or you have ask the game provider all this stuff initially and they never delivered what you ask for at once?

I am not a tech savvy so  i am  not sure what sort of checks should be done but after over a month with the game provider collaborating and not finding anything yet what else will come up next time the game provider will come out with the answers you don't like?

Cheating on my side never occurred and i feel the casino will never accept the findings of the game provider because is not what the casino wants to hear.



Could you please let me know if once you have this answers from the game provider i will finally get paid, or you keeping extra requests in case the casino once again will confirm i did not cheat.

If i was such an haker i wouldn't have wasted way over 15k pf my own money would i?


i have not cheated so i need to be reassured that once the game provider send you the results of your inquiry   i will get my winnings.

Also since the investigation is lasting so long will i be able to withdrawn the month worth of daily withdrawals or for big jackpot winnings u do pay the winnings all together?

Thanks again for your update.

Best regards.

https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT


above the game provider reply to my emails after i have send them a copy of your post!!

THE GAME PROVIDER HAS SEND YOU EVERYTHING IS NEEDED!!!!

YOU CLEARLY ARE NOT TELLING THE TRUTH!!!

IF ANYONE IS READING PLEASE HELP TO  KNOW WHAT I DO AS THIS BEHIND ILLEGAL>
 

I AM SO UPSET AS THIS CASINO IS OBVIOUSLY LYING!!

WHY THEY ARE  NOT SHARING THE GAME PROVIDER  FINDINGS ?
BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE TO PAY ME AS I I'M  NOT THE CHEATER HERE!

TIME  TO COME OUT AND BE HONEST LTC CASINO.
NOT MORE LIES PLEASE.

https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT

this what the game provider says.

LTc casino can't share their finding because nothing was found and they don't want to pay!!
They are now hiding  the proves for not paying me.


They try to slender me when they are the ones lying and keeping my money , my deposits and my winnings,please help to understand what shall i do as this people aren't honest  and they will trick so many other people.

I truly hope bitcointalk community will warn the rest of the people as it is crystal clear what sort of people are behind LTC casino unless they prove  the community  wrong.


WORDS are failing me!

You seem to be editing and changing your posts. My bot notification shows that you asked me what my opinion of the casino is now, but I can't find that sentence in your posts anymore.

What we have here is a he said, she said situation, and it's impossible to know who is right since none of the information is public. The game provider claims they sent everything that was requested from them (he said). The casino says the info they received isn't enough because a lot of questions remain unanswered, so they have requested additional info (she said).

Neither the game provider has shown you what data has been sent nor has the casino made public the information they received and the additional questions they have asked the gaming provider. This screenshot that you posted (https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT) states they can't send you the info you are looking for because they have no way to verify who you are. Additionally, the casino won't make the information public as long as they are still investigating the case. And as they said previously, the can take several months. 

All I can say is stay calm and expect the best outcome if you have nothing to hide. That's all I can tell you. Have you heard of the proverb: "Justice is slow but sure"? It takes time to prove you did nothing wrong.   

i delete because you didn't reply and thought i didn't want to bother you stop painting me like the villain.


The casino said that they asked the game provider for further questions after over a month?? how credible??
The game provider stated that they sent all it was requested and they have not reason to lie and they have noting to lose, the casino on the contrary will have either pay or show the world is another rogue unlicensed casino.

It is over a month now and i have nothing to hide but i want to be paid for my winnings, very simple and if the casino had any evidence they would have already publish it.
The fact they don't share the game provider findings is plain and simple they will prove that i did not cheat and that they are lying.

Unfortunately i don't believe on your proverb as justice doesn't happen all the time, may in your world does.

By now any decent casino would have sorted it out but this casino is keep taking time hoping thi swill go away.

This is disgraceful. How about you pay the man his money and issue them an apology? You seem to be making it up as you go.

Regarding variance, in short, it refers to "risk". Low-variance slots pay out more frequently but smaller wins. On the other hand, high-variance slot games are capable of massive wins, but of course, frequency is lower. Mid-variance slots are in-between. There are many more things related to variance, their types, etc.

In 2018, Wazdan introduced an option to choose variance on their slot titles (There are three options: low, mid & high). You can simply change variance by clicking on the variance icon. (3 chilli papers icon).

As I can see per your screenshot, it's set on medium variance (default one). So if you haven't changed it, you have played on medium variance.

Thank you!
i actually thought was the speed this chilies!!
Dear me...i am so tech helpless!!!
What i don't get is what this has to do with the winnings, i have used one or two chilies mostly and didn't really used the third one as thought was going to speed the game too much.
The casino is mentioning also auto-spins but i never used it as like to it without it.
Unfortunately they are now making things up as they dont want to pay since the game provider as stated they sent all they needed and the casino refuses to share their findings because they will prove to the gambling community they are just another unlicensed casino with not morals.
The funniest part and also most sad is that they call themselves the most fair crypto casino! As IF!!

Thanks for the explanation by the way, the casino dosent even bother to reply , too busy scamming people probably.

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Players can choose whatever variance they want on Wazdan slots. It's just an additional feature for players.

This is when you should have payed the player.  You asked the provider to investigate, they investigated.  It's been over a month now.  If wazden hasn't found anything, you need to pay the player.  It's impossible to prove the player did not cheat, but if they did, I would expect that your casino wouldn't be the only site they decided to cheat on, and Wazden would have reports from other casinos if they didn't notice themselves.  The fact that most of your points and 'questions' for the provider are irrelevant make me think you're just looking for any excuse not to pay.

They asked also for second checks and nothing was found, yet the casino made up that the game provider didn't answers to some made up questions after a months of investigations!!

The game provider confirmed that the all it was asked was sent and they are done in their ends.
The casino is now simply lying and making excuses , and if they are not they can simply build they reputation now sharing the game provider findings.
They are not doing it because they know they should pay the winnings and it is clear they don't want to.

So far the big wins in this forums seem like shillings from people that work for the casino , everyone knows it!!

This is their moment to show to people that real winners will get paid, as if they are not is just another rogue casino with not license praying into innocent gamblers.

This casino give casino crypto a bad name.
See how the casino has stop replying but they were very acting when they were trying to get new players.

I hope nobody plays there till they sort this mess.

I have managed to open a flag aganist Ltc casino, i'll be happy to remove it once the casino comes out clean and pay the winnings or shares the game provider findings.

If anyone want to help me and warn other players in order to prevent situations like that i would really appreciate it.

The gambling community shouldn't let casinos run wild and act in such ways.

It has been over a month and without evidence they are keeping my money.

Not cool.

you might want to share the link to your flag against ltc casino. also, as far as I know, flags cannot be deleted(please correct me if I am wrong), but the flag you created will only be activated once enough DT members(you'll need 3 DT members to support your flag) support it.

FLAG:   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3408346   

i hope the site will solve the situation and i'll be happy to remove the flag if they do.

can someone please read this response form LTc casino in lbc  forum?

I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot.
am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game?

 Can a third party explain to me what LtC means with this  post?

Also why  i have to be treated like someone that scammed the casino with another provider if they do not have any proves against me?


Please read what LTC casino wrote and please explain if they are not being contradictory on their last post as now the game provider opinion means nothing at all but till last week  it was all they were waiting for.


https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn

Anyone more clever than me can pls explain??

Thank you.

Ps this is the last email sent by the game provider

https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT

the 28/03/2022

You didn't understand what they said in the same way you don't understand anything I have been saying and instead you accuse me of making you look like a victim. If you are talking about this screenshot (https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn), your understanding of what it says is completely wrong. LTC Casino didn't say that they only asked what the probability of winning the jackpot is. They wrote that Wazdan only sent them that piece of information, but they requested additional data. That's what the post says.

If you look at the second paragraph, you will see it's similar to what I told you in terms of being patient. If you have nothing to hide, that's what the investigation will hopefully show. Trying to pressurize them will likely not work and there is nothing anyone here can do to speed up that process.

Having said that, it would be a good thing if LTC Casino can make public at least parts of the emails where we can see that they requested additional data from the provider. @LTC Casino, can you do that?

Have a look at this  ,i have  received this this morning from Wazdan support team.

They are definitely better than the casino at reply and communicate.

https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk

The Game provider is now emailing a strong statement and your opinion is irrelevant , not free interpretation. I

The casino now must show the correspondence and by the way  i show them what the casino has written so spare me your preaching as it so clear what they are doing.

Why the game provider would say so?

The Casino reputation is now hanging on the game provider exchange of emails.

I  am now convinced that they are lying ,and the only reason to prove me wrong and the community now is to be transparent about it.

I agree, and that's what I said in my previous post. It would be a good idea if they showed what Wazdan sent them and what further data they are requesting and talking about. I will PM their casino rep and see if they respond.

I am not a psychologist. I read and interpret what is written in this thread and the way it's written. I can't read anyone's mind and understand what agenda or motives they have. 

The only way for them to prove their good faith is to share what the game provider has sent them.

They clearly saying the casino is lying and they said they send them a statement.
Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement?

They send it last week so they had plenty of time.

If they want to be trusted they can simply show at least the statement sent by Wazdan, they are not sending it because it will show the integrity of the casino.
The casino is right on one thing, there is a lot of scammers , sadly in this instance is not me.

@LTC Casino, Since you asked to discuss it here. Let's move forward. Could you please confirm that you didn't get a response from the provider yet?


According to you, Provider did not answer your questions!
But bambolina posted a screenshot which is this https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk
and it's clearly showing that the provider says they have given their official statement. So, What answers are you looking for from the provider?

I guess because Felix slots had a vulnerability that was only discovered after a thorough investigation. If I remember it correctly, Felix representatives didn't want to admit there were any issues with their games and only did it after an investigation showed that something weird was going on. LTC Gaming might be trying to draw a parallel between the two gaming providers thinking something similar might have happened to Wazdan as well.

The LTC Casino rep responded to my PM. They haven't sent any proof. They only wrote what Wazdan apparently told them:
They claim the provider didn't send anything else.

This is a quote of my second PM I sent them a minute ago as a response to their PM:

The game provider has been clear in their email they have send their official statement so why the casino doesn't admit that?
They don't have to share their correspondence but at least their official statement  even if is not what they want to hear.
Just because someone cheated does mean now we are all cheater and players now know that the casino thinks is impossible you can win big to the point that anyone that will win a big amount will have to go through this hell!

So much fun! Not only their withdrawals limits are super low but u must wish the casino pays you and wait months before that and if happens.

As i said i have nothing to hide because i did not cheat and game provider and casino guru found nothing and please nobody can convince a casino that brags to have so much experience doesn't have someone professional to check on their side. In a month time ??

What disturbs me the most are the lies , because they do have this statement an if the game provider made one they would be accurate because one would think that they would take responsibilities if it wasn't accurate.

All i ask is transparency and you can't deny they are acting shady because they don't want to share the official statement of the game provider.

Thanks for sharing and get in contact with them really appreciated.

Let's see what excuse they come next.
Now the game provider wants a feedback  from the casino for their false info about their company.  


I don't know who's lying but i know is not me and to be honest why the game provider would lie? Or casino guru?

Let's see when and what LTC casino will come with this time , it's like a soap opera!

Another week has pass and radio silence from LTC casino, not official game provider statement shared.
No updates and not evidence against me provided, they are keeping my money without reasons and the casino refuses to communicate with me directly.

Shame on them.

The villains always wins.

let's wait until the end of this month to see what arguments they will bring or if they will remain silent, at some point they will have to say something, be patient they only have two options:

1- come and say you are innocent and give what you got

2 - come and say you're guilty and give you nothing

so be patient because they will have to show up and say one of these options

Ten days since they reply to their last post.
The game provider said that they already sent all they requested and they say the casino is not saying the truth.
I shared last email sent by Wazdan support.
Its so long now that they close my account and they clearly struggle to prove their assumptions ,understandly since I did not cheat.
Looks like everytime someone wins big they will have to go through this ordeal.
The casino is fun only when you lose, when you win the fun ends
Casino guru checked the game history  and the game provider too few times ,yet the casino will not accept that a player can win honestly, which makes me wonder  why they also brag about  having gthe highest  RTP and then the question  the slots, the player and the game provider.

How can a  casino makes assumptions and.not be able to accept two different  third party confirming there was not cheating and the casino themselves with all their means after so many years of experience not be able to give tiny bit of evidence of the reason they are keeping the player money.
The Ltc rep hasn't reply from 10 days!!!! This is how much they cared about their reputation.

I wish  I could belive in them but but now I start  to feel they are  just playing a game. 😔😔😔


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just be patient and don't give up like i said they only have two options so be patient they are a casino and i doubt they will want to ruin their reputation they are trying to conquer here so let's wait and see what they will say, because they will have to come and say something, they won't be silent forever

I agree with you that the user should be patient to get a result either good or bad. Hopefully think that result will be good as the casino already received one message from the provider and soon they will be more clarified. And I think they will inform us on the forum about the incident. If they cant provide information then obviously there is something wrong.

BTC

The casino has been totally silence for two weeks since they recieved the official statemtent from the game provider.

Casino guru will close the case as unresolved in 3 days time as Ltc casino has stopped communicating  because obviously they haven't  got any proves  and they will use this fetiocus t&c to do to others what they have done to me.I just wish bitcointalk community  would  support my flag and make sure this casino will stop doing to people  what they  are doing to me.
please  read below the comments  from Casino guru reps ,which they have bene studying the case for ove a month now..


https://imgur.com/a/NMHKBlo


Shame on Ltc Casino because they have lost all my respect now, keeping my deposits and my winnings.

I am.appalled.

Feedback left.  I should've left it sooner.  No excuse for how they're handling the situation.

Thamk you!
I have open a flag if u would like to support it, hopefully more OP will leave negative support and support the flag.
The casino has now now become unresponsive but they  keep taking people's money.

It really feels now that not having any proves they will  try to let this scam to  be forgotten anf keep going.
They do not have lots of big winners as the games don't really payout, so they can keep going for a while, I wa a unlucky lucky one who a lifetime  winning im thw worst possible casino ever!

I will  not stop tough and raise awareness till as many people will know this casino it is what  is.

On 31st March, LTCcasino responded on their ANN and asked us to not discuss this matter on their thread since this matter already has a separate thread. Since then, they didn't post a single response here or in their ANN thread. I am not sure how long a player can tolerate this kind of behavior from a professional casino. They ask for three months to complete an investigation that doesn't make sense to me. But, since it is in their policy. Let's give them a favor. But, not responding to their customers is unprofessional. Their silence smelled so weird. Scammy

The casino states up to 3 months for investigations, obviously  they are milking  it to the max time  in order to justify  not playing a player their winnings.

The refused the game  provider  checks,  casino  guru will be lower their reputable  casino score in 2 days time as the casino hasn't  replied  over two weeks.
They also check my game history  and Ltc casino  refuses the fact  that there was not cheating.

They keep not paying  me without evidence.
They compared  my case to the Booming games  case but they posted their statements  as soon  they got it because  it stated there was cheating, but posting Wadzan official  statemtent  will show the casino is holding my money  with not reasons.

Can u all imagine if they do that to everyone  who wins a decent  win?

I beg everyone  to support my flag and leave a negative  comment,  its clear  the casino doesn't  care about their reputation  but at least as gambling  community  we can prevent  this casino to act so despicably  with other players.

They never ,ever even send me one email to explain and they only acknowledge  me to protect their  name and now that they
can't  prove their lame accusations  they have disappeared.

Pls pls pls support the red flag and leave a negative  comment, maybe they will come to their senses.

 scammer profile  : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3408346

THE Casino has gone totally silent even with Casino guru


https://imgur.com/a/T6Q5igs

Can anyone please  advice on what to do beside waiting?
At this point  for the good of the community  people should stick together and prevent  other gamblers  to even  consider  this casino.

I had faith i have lost it all.
heartbroken and upset that people like that exists.

there's really nothing you or we can do at this point other than wait. they don't have a license so you can bring this issue up to their license provider. perhaps you can try and find out which forums/platforms they have posted and try posting this issue there too. but then again even doing that won't guarantee that you'll get your money or them be more responsive about the issue.

It's very sad how they are dealing with this issue, I honestly thought they would resolve this issue very soon but from what I see it will still go on for many months that's why I left negative feedback on LTC CASINO account and supported the banner you created, I will remove negative feedback once this issue is resolved.

OP stay calm and don't let this problem destroy you


you and the whole community can leave negative feedback on the LTC CASINO account and you can also support the flag, when people have the courage this kind of things will hardly happen here on the forum. unfortunately people think that: "I'm not from DT so I won't leave negative feedback" or: "It's not my problem so I won't support the flag". people have this thought

Thank you for supporting the flag and speaking up the truth.
So many people have seen the post and many more  added a comment yet only few left a negative comment on their  feedback section or supported the flag.
The flag can be removed and I will remove it if the casino appears  and shows the evidence  and share the official statement of The game provider.
This money has been taken unlawfully and all the evidence  proves I did not cheat.
Someone said that my case was similar to the felix case and i have checked the felix case and it was solved much faster and the casino shared the official statemtent because worked on their favour.
In this instance they refuse becaue i did not cheat and of course  sharing  it will only prove  they just dont  pay winners.

I hope more people will support the flag till the casino comes out clean, u can clearly  see they have gone silent and this is not
like an honest  casino  deals with.

But regardless of what will happened we have learned that Any winners will go through  this diabolical  procedure ,can u imagine  of any winners has to wait 3 months to get paid?
And by now I truly doubt they will pay as they seems gone with my  over 15k deposits and 1496Ltc winnings.

Let's  stop them please.

LTC casino has blocked your account based on their anti-fraud policy of their terms. They have suspected that you used some wrong method to win the jackpots at Wazdan slot. Their terms says

So, they have the rights to take up to 3 months to complete the investigation. But their silence and ignorance is questionable now. I lose my temper if a casino delay my withdrawal for several hours without any reason. If you haven't done anything wrong in the game then I know how you are feeling now. I have supported your flag and left a negative feedback to LTC Casino.

Everyone has the right to have an opinion about this and may suspect that the casino is behaving unfairly, but the quote you provided does indeed indicate that they have 3 months to respond and are not really required to be reminded of this on Bitcointalk. You may like it or not, but the casino follows their ToS.

lol..
up to 3 months not the  whole 3 months for sure.

Anyway I'm  glad some people  are seeing  the truth and supported the flag, probably gamblers and not promoters.

I understand  there will be also people  affilate to this casino and of course they  will stick with them regardless  proves or not.
After a month and half and the casino denying third party  evidenced  that there was not cheating  its obvious  where this is heading.

Also which casino does not acknowledge  the player  via email to even let them know that the account is blocked  and an investigation  will be done?

They reply to my post publicly  because they wanted to protect their reputation  but they didn't  acknowledge  me once .

Maybe this is the way the casinos you normally deal with and promote but normal casino do  communicate  with players privately and this  casino doesn't.

Fact.
Btw another forum  is going to remove their score because  they stopped  communicating,  so it is indeed  your opinion that the casino is acting fairly.

Of course, such explanatory proceedings should last less than 3 months. However, they have it written down in their terms and conditions and by using their services you have agreed with them. So I'm afraid you just have to respect that they have that right. Unless you don't care.

Is not about caring or not.
Can you imagine if every player who wins a considerable  amount must wait 3 months regardless?
Third parties have already  confirmed  there was not cheating  and the casino obviously does not have any evidence  to support a blocked  account  for 3 months. Try to be in my shoes and see  if you would think this as reasonable.
With a month and half people can discover  even new cures!!!

I fully respected the investigation  till the game  provider anc another third party confirmed  I did not cheat.

If the casino wants to keep my money they will have up update their  investigations they can't  just disappear i am afraid.

Unfortunately  for them I did not cheat so they will be investigating forever if they want to find something that didn't happen.

All is asked is transparency  and so far they have  shown none  since they never even email me to let me know they were blocking my account

How would you call this sortif behaviour  if u didn't  cheat and a casino  takes your mine in silence?

Irs niw 2 weeks that they appear in this site and I have massive doubts they will come bavk as this time they will have to come with evidences and i can oromise you they will find none.

Meantime every player signing  witb them  risk theur deposits  lost and possible  winnings taken with not direct explanation  ,uniesd the players makes it public, then they will reply with a bunch of excuses  but not one sogliole evidence.

I hope u will never have to deal wirh a casino like that !

As far as I know, the standard response time is one month. 3 months is actually a very long time and I would be very worried and probably nervous if I had to wait so long for an answer. Unfortunately, at the time of registration, you accepted these terms, so I'm afraid you'll just have to accept them.

You promoting a scam website like 1xbit for few dollars a week.  Because of you victims will lose thaosends . You have no dignity or morals and you come pretending to help the OP.
You are no different than the scammers who pay you few dollars to make you bring victims to them.  Only difference is they are smarter than you get few dollars bring to them victims to steal 1000×more

Have a dignity and some morals then come to advice.  You probably can do anything for few dollars including selling your sister or mother or 3ven your a** (a person with no dignity can do it) if you accept few dollars to bring victims to a Russian scam site.
What a loser.  

I am not writing here to help anyone or to take sides. I am explaining only to all interested users of that forum and LTC casino that OP agreed for rules in which the casino has 3 months to explain this matter and provide an answer. I understand this user frustratingly, but unfortunately he agreed to such conditions himself, so he will have to understand it and just patiently wait.

Of course, the TOS must be respected, but it takes common sense and feeling and the spirit to resolve customer problems quickly. I wonder:

What is their security team doing all day? Is it so hard for their security team to spend all day investigating this case and get back here quickly with answers?

and if it was in the real world, would they do this kind of disgusting thing? I doubt they would have the courage in the real world to have this kind of behavior

if only this OP problem is taking centuries to resolve, then what if they have a lot of customers with problems?

this is the type of casino people should avoid using

@bambolina , did they answer your question - How many spins you have played in total for all four accounts? (on that particular game)

Who?
The game provider?

The game provider said they sent all the  requested  infos.

I have made well over 15k on deposits so i personally do not have a clue  how many spins i have made  but i would guess  i crazy amount because  I have played max bet only on the last account.

The casino has gone silent and they should  be the ones sharing the game provider statement.
Casino guru checked my game history and found nothing out of the ordinary.

if it was for me i would make my game history and deposit  history  public  has i have absolutely  nothing to hide, and people  can see the crazy amount of money and time i have spent.
They compare my case to the felix case,  but I wondered how much the  felix case scammer spent.
Unfortunately  as soon as  i won the biggest jackpots  i was blocked and never heard from the casino  directly,  they just reply in the forums because they had to.

The casino could simply send updates since now is two  weeks that they appeared  and the game provider  said they sent all it was requested.
The casino  should  share the game provider  official  statemtent  and communication  to show transparency,  but I guess it will only prove that they are holding my money unlawfully.

Investigating is fine, but at one point they must realise  that if nothing is found they should pay the players.

I have not trust left  as even when I try to contact  the chat the close it straightway.
Do u think this is a normal legitimate  casino behaviour?

No. It is not.

I think you have created flag type one as you have been scammed directly I think you should create flag type 3 sothat profile shows caution. Anyway, they have got a long time but not solving the issue So I have provided negative trust and also at the same time I have supported your flag.

Thank you so much,much appreciated.

how do I create flag type 3?

You can create flag type 3 by clicking last point I mean point number three. Nothing exception which you done but you have selected first box instead of last (third) box. So, if you click on box number 3 then it will be flag type 3 and people will be able to know that the site is a proven scammer.

I understand. Since spins are independent of each other, we can use binominal distribution here.
If you have played intensively for a few months, on four accounts, and let's say you have played 500000 spins, we can use binominal probability formula to calculate odds for such an event of 3 jackpots in 500000 spins.

Number of spins (trials) n=500000
Probability of jackpot p= 0.000001 (1:1000000)
Number of jackpot wins (number of successes) k= 3
-------------------------------------------------------

probability mass f   0.01263601434
lower cumulative p   0.99824839324
upper cumulative q   0.01438762110
-------------------------------------------------------


Binomial probability P(X = k): 0.01263601434345700  = 1.26 %.
In other words,  1.26 % chance for this outcome of winning three jackpots in 500000 spins. So if we take this example, you were indeed very lucky, but nothing extremely unordinary.

Anyway, radio silence from the casino is not a good sign, and it's been for a few weeks with no update on the case whatsoever. I will support your flag, and I am sure other members will do the same if the silence continues. To be fair, LTC Casino has a time frame of 3 months as per Terms & Conditions. But, not responding to the questions/posts is not a good sign. I hope they will do the right thing in the end.

shame on LTCcasino
hope they pay you your winning

The casino went silent even at casino guru rep!!
They probably now playing with their "up to 3 months" t&c , trying to get as much money for players and not paying them each time someone wins a big amount and slowly earning ta rogue casino status till they are gone.

They could have easily made  public the amount of spins i have played and the amount of deposit as they make it up like is so impossible to win it, and maybe it is as for two months i simply lost constantly, but luck sometime happens even to players.

There is  a lot of reviews complaining that they games seem rigged and i was convinced too at one point.

For me the fact that the casino never even emailed to let me know they were blocking my account and keep my money and start an investigation is still the biggest red flag. The hat operator as soon they see my email they lose the chat!
Suh fair casino aren't they??
Not a single honest casino does that, communication is extremely important and they probably just hoped i would have disappear.

I am trying to work out how to do a type 3 flag as it is obvious they are just keeping my money and hoping the rest of the internet wont see this thread but they are massively mistaken if they think i will let this go withut making sure the whole universe is aware of this scamming site.

Till now i  gave them the benefit of the doubt but now is too long and the fact that they have gone silent speak louder than any words.

I truly hope the bitcointalk community will help me to stop this so called casino to scam other players.

Please support my flag as they might don't care about their reputation but we can prevent others to walk in my shoes.

Do you know why they would not care about the flags you created about LTC casino ?

The answer is simple. This gambling site does not have a presence in this forum. They do not have ANN thread etc and therefore they do not care about their reputation. I am afraid that they won't return your money back.

The fact that they went silent on casino guru is the worrying part as casino guru and ask gamblers are the best places where you can discuss or manage problems for real with casinos!

They were active yesterday  probably read all the comments and laugh at it.
3 weeks gave passed and they still refuse to share the official  game provider statement, they say they are investigating when 2 third party comfirmed there was not cheating  and with all the years  they brag about  running casino they haven't managed to pull one tiny bit  of evidence to justify the appropriation  of  money.

Its incredible  casinos like that even get visibility  as by now I'm  pretty sure I got scammed.
I really wanted to believe they were trying to be cautions  but now they have not reason to keep my money.

If the casino does not have funds to play players they shouldn't open casinos.

HERE LAST EMAIL RECIEVED  TODAY BY THE GAME PROVIDER.
LTC CASINO HAS BEEN LYING ALL THIS TIME

https://imgur.com/a/CzvZCkJ

They  are simply not paying  money because they don't  want to pay  winners.
Simple has!!

Not more proves left as the  casino is simply lying.

Ltc casino pay my winnings!!!

Dude I totally feel you, fighting alone a casino which no one knows where it exists can be hard.. I really hope you will get your money!

During the investigation, we encountered more uncertainties on top of the technical issues with the game. Specifically, they relate to how Wazdan communicates with us and the player, which only strengthened our suspicions.

We asked the provider multiple questions, including:

-Detailed analysis of all rounds and sessions, not only winning ones;

-At what speed and volatility was the game played? These parameters are not passed to our backend, but they must be on the provider's side.

-A request to consider and comment on 16-hour long sessions with turbo spins played exclusively in one slot from all the accounts regardless of the result (after the jackpot, the player continued the game, including the period when they won three Grand jackpots in a short time).

Of the whole range of questions, the provider answered only one - regarding the probability of winning the Grand jackpot. For the record, it is 1/166,945 games. In this case, the Grand jackpot was won three times within 13,000 spins. Even prior to receiving the abovementioned response, we assumed a very low probability of hitting the Grand Jackpot thrice in such a short period of time. That's why we suspended the player’s account, preventing them from further exploiting a possible bug and hoping that Wazdan would shed light on what was happening.

Unfortunately, Wazdan completely ignored all other subjects, although the situation obviously required further clarification. In parallel, the provider was in touch with the player, assuring them that they had instructed the operator to make payment. We expect game providers to follow the B2B model where they do not bypass their customers to reach end-users as it is basic professional ethics.

The provider also notified us that the player was constantly contacting them on the issue. The provider expressed concern about their reputation, as the player was spreading negative messages on the forums. In turn, we hold the view that Wazdan's actions were unethical and unprofessional. In addition to communicating directly with the player, they ignored our questions, which are critical for the matter.

To that end, we have reasons to distrust the Wazdan studio. They behave like an interested party and withhold essential information, whether trying to avoid reputational risks or being in collusion with the player. On the balance of evidence, we remain convinced that the Power of Gods: Hades game may contain a bug that makes winning the jackpot a non-random event under certain conditions. We also do not exclude that the bug could be fixed by the provider without making it public.

As for the player, their further communications reveal even more inconsistencies. For example, the player contacted us offering to give up a third of the amount in order to speed up the payout. You don't expect regular players to do that, but it is a common practice among fraudsters since urgency is one of their main weapons.

The provider also did not clarify the situation around the hours-long sessions with thousands of uninterrupted spins, which is practically unattainable with the built-in tools of the game since the auto play is limited to a thousand spins and then there should be at least a slight delay. Thus, we believe that the player used third-party software, aimed, among other things, at exploiting a potential vulnerability in the game, which is a direct violation of the LTC Casino rules.

A similar situation arose earlier with Felix Gaming software. Read more about that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385638

In short, Felix Gaming admitted that another player had used a script instead of the officially certified client allowing them to change the bet size right in the bonus game. And these bugs are not found by chance - highly trained teams that abuse vulnerabilities in online casinos for huge profits do that. Hopefully, in the present situation, the truth will come out in time as well.

We'd like to remind that the player also threatened LTC Casino, as they admitted themselves. This is another violation of LTC Casino's terms and conditions.

Due to egregious violations, we have made a decision to withhold the payout. The decision is final. We have also ceased all operations with Wazdan due to the loss of trust and their questionable business practices. In addition, we publicly urge other casino operators to pay special attention to Wazdan titles, including previous results, due to a potential vulnerability in their games.



P.S. We have no right to make privat correspondence public but we may provide it to the forum administration.

That is one more lying from topic starter. We are in permanent contact with Casino Guru and other forums representatives.

And  this is exactly what a broke  unlicensed casino acts!!

Never read so many lies at once!!

i know from the moment u blocked my account that u were going to steal my money!!!

You first tried to ignore me and pretend u were an honest casino only once i made it this public.

You want to appear honest?
Now that you are publicly admitting you steal money from players , make public the amount of deposit and the amount of spins i have made.

Stop the lies.
The game provider never said they instructed the casino  to pay me ,they simply said they send the requested  infos.
I actually shared every single email so your lies can be confronted.
They simply said over and over that they done all the checks requested  and the payments wasn't  happening because of the casino as they did their job.
Its all in the screnshots for people to see, so not  point to lie.


Show the community the game provider correspondence , all of it!! You are accusing the game provider of such actions and trying to thorn their reputation to defend yours which you do not have.
I have not relations with the game provider they where simply honest and you did not accept the reality as you did not accept casino guru gameplay checks which they again said there was nothing out of the ordinary!!
We are all dishonest except you????


Two third parties said i didn't cheat but you like a proper rogue casino decide to steal my money.



Just you know i asked if i could get 2 third because i wanted to close my account and i preferred less but straightway as i had not trust in your casino and it would have take me months and months with yoru poor withdrawals system.
Not other casino offer crumbs as withdrawals and i understand your casino is for change as big roller have not time to play in a casino that can't pay more than 15LTc daily. I asked to forfeited the amount because  the casino simply doesn't  pay all together!! Are u for real??? With your suspicious  behaviour I had not faith u were going to pay in a long run so I tried to see if I could get  less but all at once and this is because  your casino can't  pay big wins and neither small ones for the reviews I have seen around.

 JACKPOT???

The casino doesn't believe itself people can win and if it happens it will ignore and steal your money.  The real player reviews aren't nice either. Everyone is the bad guy except LTC casino.

Funny as the majority of the review around accuse you of having rigged games. little they know even if u win you still don't pay!!! THE IRONY!!

The amount of lies to try to defend your reputation is so sad.

Prove your lies because so far your are the only that believe to them.

You thorning apart the reputation of the game provider because they didn't lie about the player??

I have shared the email i have received and they simply confirmed that i did not cheat . unfortunately till today u refused to share their official statement.  Just do it and show what you are saying is true!!

You won't because u know u cant prove i cheated. You can't  prove the impossible  that's why u lied and u give not evidence.
you believe the games of god has a bug?? is it my fault?? can u even prove it?? u can't just accuse without prove it.
Are other casinos having issue with the same provider or is it only your casino that every time someone wins you block account and keep the winnings and accuse players ,provider and even reps for forums


I am appalled!!!

You said at the end of the case you would have shows all the proves of your accusations.
Bring it them on!

I did not cheat, my only mistake was to play in a unlicensed broke casino that can't afford to pay winnings and they simply lie to try to keep their reputation but instead  you are just confirming who u are!!


If you think this is ending here you are mistaken because it will be my life priority to prevent your casino to scam others, even if is for one penny!

Your type of casino give bad reputation to  crypto casinos.

shame on you

Now instead of lying prove to bitcointalk casino  and show the proves.

btw everyone can go and check at casino guru ,.

The casino hasn't responded to the thread for week and weeks.

i do not need to lie is all there  and i have prove every single thing i have said , Ltc casino just fabricated lies without one single prove.

You have tried so hard to slender me and every single time i have give evidence of your lies.

Where is your evidence?


At least you had the decency to don't wait 3 months to admit you stolen my money.

i will open a type 3 red flag if anyone wants to back me up and prevent this casino to rob people off.

If this is not the scam of the year i don't know what it is.


my journey starts now because i have not started yet and if they think they will  keep scamming people they are truly mistaken.

Shame on you LTC casino.
Disgusted  is a understatement.

The players has reached to the game provider as you guys weren't responding him properly. You haven't replied to many questions of the forum members and staying silent most of the time. How professional is it!

Did he offer to receive the withdrawal partially? Or he is ready to sacrifice one third of his profit? There shouldn't be any problem to post a proof of this.

You are saying that the user has played continuously for 16 hours without any break. But you haven't provided any single evidence of your claim. The funniest thing is that LTC Casino has done this whole thing and made the final decision based on their believe. Gambling doesn't work in this way, you should provide the proof.

@Pmalek, LTC Casino is completely blaming the game provider for this user jackpot win without any evidence. They are accusing him without the proof. And they have made their final decision too. What you think about this accusation now?

The forum administration won't show any interest in this issue. You have to stay with your negative feedback if you aren't able to post any proof. It won't help you to grow your business. If you really have strong evidence against the player then send the details to those DT members (Jawhead999, TwitchySeal, Slow death) who has left negative feedbacks on your account.

I have asked them if I could forfeit the winning from 1496 TO 1000 ltc if they could pay me the winnings all.at once as their withdrawals limits is tiny and it would have taken months with the risk of losing the money playing  as they do not offer time out anymore they removed the options to exploit players.

If that was a normal casino i wouldn't  have done this offer as is a lot of money  but  since their predator ways i was trying to protect myself as when I asked them to close my account they refused but they immediately  closed it when they had to pay me!!

Funny how the predator  blames the victim!

I endured nearly two months  and i Hope their  karma will hit them hard, bet they wont last much not paying people and accusing  game  provider  every time someone wins and they dont get their lying ways.

ps i'm curious  too to know  what @Pmalek as to say.

It was obvious from the beginning.
Sorry for you op.
I know it's hard but your fault for choosing a no name casino

Unfortunately  i foumd this scammers in casino guru and they gave them a good reputation casino score.
Now looking around reviews the net is full of complaints about this rogue casino.

i wasted over 15k and they have the audacity to slender the game provider  who worked  for the UKGC while they are operating without license from Russia with Love.
The Ltc said the owner is Andrei TTr , a Russian millionaire,  I understand how he made millions now.
Disgusting.

You said in one of your first posts in this thread that you would make public all information when the investigation ends. If the investigation has ended, that's what you are supposed to do now. Or were you just joking when you said that? You can't just say things and expect people to believe you just because you said it. That's not how it works. You need to back it up with evidence. You are the only party that can end this once and for all by making your findings public.

You can't make private information public? Says who? Is Wazdan pressuring you not to do it? Is the player who accuses you of scamming doing it? You said you would, so what has changed?

I believe I asked you several times to show proof that Wazdan has not sent you the information you have requested. Why haven't you done it? Where is the email about your requests to Wazdan and the one that proves they haven't delivered what was asked? There is no non-disclosure agreement between you two. You believe Wazdan is colluding with the player to cheat on your casino? Excellent! Even more reasons to show proof that they haven't sent you anything of value to help with the investigation. Who are you protecting by not releaseing it? You are not making any friends here and you are making life difficult for yourself.   

You want to share the data with an admin? Tell you what I am going to do. I will tag Cyrus and hilariousandco in this post. They are mods of the marketplace section and might be interested to have a look. I will also mention the name DarkStar_ as he knows his way around gambling, and LoyceV as a trusted neutral party. I doubt anyone will object to these names or distrusts the mentioned users. I am also going to send them a PM asking if they want to take a look at this thread and maybe the provided evidence by you.

I'll tell you a story about last week. I have played since 6 pm to the other day at 3 AM slots without a stop 1-2 weeks ago. That is 33 hours without stop. I have taken in less than 10k spins on jasmin jars two times 11k X. Plus 3 times on max bet EGT's 5 of 7.

Ok, profit overall, but you tell me 16 hours is a problem? If he would've lost the money you wouldve not cared, now that he won just keep them?

On what basis? You have a contract with Wazdan, you both verify on your ends, when the players was playing, the contract was still valid.

Why do you attack the player for asking for a 3rd of his funds? That is a totally normal behaviour from someone disperate waiting for months for his money..

I will wait for an update on casino guru, I am following the topic for a month or so

I was asked to respond here (not by OP). I must say I find bambolina's posts difficult to read (which is why I never bothered to read everything when I saw this topic earlier). Proofreading before posting would help, but posting the same things over and over again just makes it harder to read everything.

First:
It sounds like you should really stop gambling! Closing your account won't help, as you can just create a new one, especially if a VPN is allowed.

It's simple: they love taking money and they hate paying. Add the fact that you can't really do anything about it, and it creates the perfect opportunity to keep your winnings.

I've read LTC Casino's posts in this thread. The problem is: I can't verify anything from either side of the dispute.

Can you send me a full overview of all bets made during these 16 hours? CSV would be preferred.

@bambolina: can you confirm you played manually for 16 hours without a second break? No toilet, no drinks, no distractions?

It sounds to me like you have no evidence whatsoever, and are just looking for a reason not to pay.

So let me get this clear:
You offer a game.
Someone wins.
You don't want to pay.
The game provider tells you all is fine.
You don't like it and assume the game provider is in on it.
You don't want to pay.

Quoted for reference.

It's your responsibility who you do business with, but you shouldn't use your business choices to deny a user their winnings.

What makes you think the Bitcointalk forum Admin has any interest in private data?

In addition, CM (https://www.casinomeister.com/forums/) has been pretty good in the past as mediator between players & online casinos and for resolving specific issues. 

It's  all so unreal.
First they blame me ,now is the provider!
They said i spread negative comments about the  provider when they were lying about them, I simply  sent the screenshot  of casino ltc was saying about them as the game provider only told me that they have checked  the game history.
They never shared  the technicality and they never sided me.
The only reason  I contacted them was to verify if the casino was lying and they were all along.
If the casino thinks there is a bug created by the game  provider  ( madness ) they should refund me all my money deposits.
They said 13000 spins yet they are saying I played  16 hours not stop with less 1 seconds? That's 57000 spins if ut was a aoun for seconds. Even me can do this basic math.
16 hours not stop is a big lie as I do eat and I took breaks so they just make this sound crazy to imply I used a bug or program.

All their lies do not add up.

They  have said I threatened  them?
I ask several  times to close my account because  I couldn't  stop playing and told them  I would hace report them as they were exploting  vulnerable  players  refusing to close accounts where they asked.
They simply said " don't  play" !!! Predator's  behavior.
If they banned my account when I asked to close it the first time I wouldn't  have wasted over 15k and they  wouldn't  have stolen  my money and they wouldn't  have been in a situation  to have to pay a player winnings.
Instead they  were ok for me to play endless  hours when I waz constantly  losing,not stop!
How convenient!!
They think is not normal for  a player  to ask for give one 1 third of the money when i genuinely  thought that could have been the only way to get the money fast as even if the casino would have paid me i would have lost it since they paid 15Ltc per day and they removed the time out  options  in order to exploit vulnerable players.
A normal casino would pay the winning at once but of course there is an agenda for them  to give u little crumbs withdrawal limits and not time out, they know players will lose their money.
I hope casino guru removes the " reputable casino" score because  i honestly  trusted them and the Casino turned out to be a rogue casino of the worse kind.

They said they would have shared all the  investigation  infos.
i can't  wait!  I have a clear conscience and nothing  to hide.
I did not cheat and  I shared all i could to prove it ,now is their turn.

They won't  simply because they  are publicly  slandering game provider  and myself  with not evidence.

Crazy how this sort organisations  can't  be stopped because is a robbery un broad daylight.

You are in constant contact  with casino guru?

This is what they are saying 

https://imgur.com/a/QmcA8UE

They  have checked  the game history send by you, not foul play found.
If u want  to scam people  own it and do not slander  game providers or players.

You score  will go down the level you deserve  to be.
I'm  now angry and tired if your scaming lies.

 i just found out this :

https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/reviews/ttr-casino

TTR casino owned by the same owner of Ltc casino got blacklisted at ask gamblers.

Askgamblers states:

"BLACKLISTED: TTR Casino is being added to our blacklist due to the fact that a member of their management has been found in conducting unjustified, abusive and defamatory campaign against AskGamblers. We believe that verbal aggression and slanderous campaigns totally contradict to the normal business relationships based on mutual respect and professionalism. AskGamblers maintain zero tolerance towards such unprofessional behavior and strongly encourage players to stay away from this casino."

 Looks like is an habit of their management to make defamatory campaign when they don't get their own ways.

Now is my turn and Wadzan turn.

Who's will be next if we don't stop them?

- Are you and your team investigating or were you and your team asking Wazdan to investigate what happened?

As I understand it, you were asking Wazdan to investigate what happened because you suspect that OP didn't win honestly, right?

- being that you asked Wazdan to investigate and Wazdan is telling you that there's nothing wrong with OP's victory. so you need to accept that fact that there's nothing wrong with OP winning

You understand this? you should pay the OP, if you suspect OP but don't have proof then it's just your opinion

if you don't pay the OP then you are a scammers

I understand that you have this doubt about OP's victory, but you need to understand you don't have proof that he cheated, be more responsible and pay him!

Hello all Users!

I'm the authorized representative of Volt Entertainment the official provider of games under the WAZDAN brand which were used by LTC Casino. We decided to take a part in this discussion officially, as a user who seems to be LTC Casino representative is trying to accuse our studio of being not professional or delivering a product that contains bugs.

First of all, I would like to tell you that EVERYTHING that is stated here by LTC Casino about our communication and our response to them is not true, or at least not a full truth. This is absolutely unacceptable.

Second, I can assure you, Dear LTC Casino representative, that ALL OUR GAMES are fully tested and certified by an independent and authorized game laboratory, and we have full evidence of it, so suggesting that any of our in-game features are causing bugs in our games are absolutely groundless and seems to be even a bit funny, as looks like you didn't even check the fact that since 3 years all our games are containing these features, and according to you, it is only your casino which was affected by these bugs. Game testing and certification were made way before the event had a place, and these features were in our games before your company and casino were even formed. So please next time rethink twice your accusation before posting it public, as it looks way out of the reality now and works against you.

Our games are used by hundreds of thousands of players every day, with millions of game rounds being played every hour and we haven't been notified by any other casino that they have any troubles with our games. It is maybe a class and quality of the casinos, they are not running only to get money out of players but also to let them win, as this is what slot gaming is all about. In your case, looks like you are looking for every reason to avoid payout to the player and you decided to find us guilty.   It is absolutely unacceptable, and we will of course prepare proper legal steps, about which we already informed you officially.

To make things even more interesting, the game which you accuse to be broken, POWER OF GODS: HADES was nominated by other casinos, so your competitors, to the very prestigious SBC CasinoBeats Developer Awards, which seems to be very unlikely if it was having bugs inside? Hundreds of players are winning huge wins on our games every day, and it is only LTC Casino that finds it problematic. For you casino is only about losing players, is that right?

And now, for the end, a few facts:
- probability in slot games doesn't mean that an event is impossible to happen more often than on "average" - it is a basic fact of maths. Do you think, that when during a toss of a coin, it is impossible to get ten "heads" in a row, just because the probability of it is low?
- we answered all your questions, and we ASSURED you, that after the check of the gameplay everything was absolutely ok with it.
- is there any point in our games T&C or in your casino T&C which makes forbidden for the player to play long game sessions on one game? Is it a crime, is it an abuse of T&C or is it just one of your abusive practices to avoid the payout of money which were won?
- your casino doesn't have any gaming license and is not providing even the name of the owner company or any address of it. Seems a bit scam, isn't it?


TO SUM things for all the players: all stated here by LTC Casino representative accusations, that Wazdan brand is, in any case, a responsible for this situation are not true and most probably an attempt to avoid a payout to the player. We are not responsible for it and we are very sorry to see such practices in our industry. We are also encouraging all players from this forum to find our games on different brands than LTC Casino and we are happy that this "product which is pretending to be a casino" is not offering our games anymore. As for the decision, if to be a client of LTC or not, we leave with all reader's decision, not like LTC Casino who is urging other casinos to avoid our product. I believe that the simple fact that our games are used and nominated for many industry awards by other casinos' representatives and players, and LTC Casino is being blacklisted for fraud on players' wins on many sites speaks for itself. Looks like our companies have absolutely different views about fair gaming and responsible gambling issues. Let us stay with our practices and we will ask players which way they would like to follow.

Nonsense.

You might believe the player cheated, I'll buy that.  But you can't prove it.  The provider investigates, you can't just not pay the player because you didn't like the outcome.

Might as well write off this whole project off if you're going to rob a player so openly.  I'm guessing you already have.  

Just saw this story  on a forum
Op why don't you take legal action ? they  should go to jail for this huge scam 

Hi there,  if the casino won't pay I'll have not choice.
I now need to seek legal help as this casino is running an unlicensed  casino and the casino rep stated the name of the owner  in this forum.

I just hope the  casino will pay after the game  provider  statement but in all truth I really doubt it ,I truly believe  this is the  way they run this casino.
Their t&c are written  to make players given up and they know people  will not fight back.
Not me!! I will not rest till  justice is done.

I just hope bitcointalk  community  will support my red  flag  as I'm  a victim  of this casino but we must make sure they will not do that to someone  else ever again.
Appaling!

Many people already support your flag and even tagged LTC casino too, it should be enough to warn other users if they visit the account or thread.

Personally, I doubt the laywer/police could help you to recover your funds or jailed the owner since it's unlicensed casino... means no one know his identity, even a licensed casino still not have to protect their players. It will depends on how he hide his identity, perhaps if he ever submit KYC on centralized exchanges... it will be easier to catch him.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts here.

That's what I have been trying to explain to bambolina, but he misunderstood my intentions as support for the casino. It has become a matter or A accusing B. B saying it's C's fault and that A is lying. And now we have C saying no we are not, B is lying.   

There you have it LTC Casino. LoyceV is willing to inspect the data personally. You said you are willing to share it with an admin, but admins don't pick sides on what is a scam and what isn't. LoyceV has got plenty of experience handling data as you can see from the services he offers and the threads he has created throughout all these years. Are you going to send him the data?

I see that LoyceV has already confirmed that this account belongs to Wazdan just in case people are wondering who you really are. LTC Casino refuses to release any data to the public. How about you? The casino claims you answered none of their questions. They said they had several follow-up questions they received no answers to. You are saying you gave them everything they asked for. Can you show proof of that, so we can see who is telling the truth? Can you release the information you sent to LTC Casino, the additional questions they emailed you, and the answers you provided?   

LTC Casino started by claiming OP scammed them, and when that failed suggested the game provider is in on it:
All without convincing evidence. After Wazdan's post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59881952#msg59881952), I've added Support for the Flag.

Question: shouldn't Wazdan check those things before a casino can use their games?

No, in this forum it does not usually look like a scam. In fact, you can have a great reputation in this forum if you run 2 unlicensed casinos for many years and you are famous for very late payments. On the part of not having a license, I suppose it is because privacy and decentralization in the forum is highly valued.

True. In the beginning it was all about OP's suspicious activities, like playing the same slot allegedly 16 hours with no breaks and winning 3 jackpots, which is unusual, but not impossible. It then shifted to Wazdan hiding something and not wanting to help with the investigation because they were refusing to provide the requested data and information about the player. All of that is theoretically possible, but since they are refusing to provide any proof, it's now becoming a fairytale and wet dream of theirs. That's why I am now hoping that Wazdan will show more openness and confirm what their claims with proof.

Some new posts will probably appear in the Casino Guru thread (https://casino.guru/ltc-casino-player-s-account-has-been-blocked-and-audited) and one of them is by LTC Casino. I am interested in what they will say.   

Unfortunately, we can't share it, as it is covered by NDA's and internal policy. It is private data from the player and casino and only one of them is able to share it. We are not a side, in this case, we just went public, as there was false info shared by the operator, that we are the one responsible for the situation, which is not true. The only evidence from the operator is that they "feel that a game has to be with a bug" because someone won money on it and they don't like it.



Question: shouldn't Wazdan check those things before a casino can use their games?


Our games were distributed to LTC Casino by one of many of our reselling partners who is at the disposal of all proper licenses and documents.

Please note, that the jackpot we are speaking here about is not a progressive jackpot or any similar solution which is very unlikely to be won many times in a row, but one of four in-game jackpots which are included in POWER OF GODS: HADES and are a standard part of the gameplay, being a part of our HOLD THE JACKPOT feature. You can check yourself in the demo version of this game: https://wazdan.com/en/games/game/168

It is nice to see a game provider representative participating in the discussion. Again, welcome to the board @Volt Ent. (Wazdan), and the community appreciates it.

There were two pieces of information on the Forum about the odds of hitting Grandjackpot (one in a million and 1/166,945). Which one is correct?

Hi everyone,  i wanted to say thank  you to those who have supported  the flag.

I feel the  casino will go silent  now, if i have any rights i can email the game provider permission  to share the infos  requested  on the  forum.
i have nothing to hide and not fear that something will be found.

unlikely the casino i want 100% transparency, i have the emails recieved  from the game provider  and not a single email  showed that they took a side.
Why should they have? And i never asked them to as I'm  aware  that  wouldn't have.

They  have a very good reputation  in the gambling  industry why side me or even the casino?
They were simply honest.

The casino can come up clean and show the correspondence between  them and the game provider.
I can show mine as I said I have not shadows on me.

At first the  casino  tried to find thousand  of excuses,  the multiple accounts , me playing  from uk and not being English,  playing for 16 hours and using only one slots.

Every single excuse  was proven wrong as they  allow multiple  accounts and they never  imply a play limit to the players.
They assumed many things but did not show a single  evidence.

After they start to focus  on defaming  the game provider, so I wonder  where am i in this picture.

I know I have  not cheated and casino guru also checked  my gameplay history and found nothing  of the ordinary.

Are we all scammers and the casino  is a victim of everyone?

This whole situation has effected me mentally a big deal as im already  going through really hard times and I did not need  a rogue  casino to add salt into my wounds.

One thing is for  sure I'll  not stop until I get  justice.

I feel I have been robbed and the casino is responsible.

Does anyone know if contacting  EFECC  will help?

 https://www.europol.europa.eu/about-europol/european-financial-and-economic-crime-centre-efecc#:~:text=EFECC%2C%20founded%20in%20June%202020,target%20individuals%2C%20countries%20and%20companies.

The casino rep has publicly revealed the casino owner name, my money seems lost but if this people will be legally persecuted il''be happy.

I will not let this matter go and I'll do everything that is legally possible to stop them.

The  will learn the hard way not to scam people.

They just scammed the wrong girl.

How do you know that's their real name? My name is not Loyce Valenzuala ;)
And even if it's real: there are probably many people with the same name, so unless you know where they're from, they'll be very hard to find.

I suggest you start by complaining to their domain registrar. Ask them to take the domain offline for scamming (that worked in this case (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4469056.msg40875413#msg40875413)).

https://imgur.com/a/sUBVMur

the casino rep revealed  the  casino owner in one of their posts in this forum brqging about being a famous Russian billionaire  streamer.

They  literally  bragged about the owner saying  they pay big wins.

 I will contact  their domains  too, i will try all i can to stop them.

ill wait till tomorrow  to see if they are going to find some common sense, if they don't  ill just make sure they will be legally  persecuted.

People think is impossible,  we shall see.
Already  making people aware of who they truly are will make them lose more than my 1496 Ltc.

I have one quality  I'm  persistant  and I hate scammers and I will  not let them scam anyone ever again.

Send a message to the owner, (https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/members/ttr.11796/) he has got 4 online casinos and maybe is not even aware of what is happening at all. It's unlikely, however, but it's still worth a try asking if he has seen this thread. He is a hardcore player himself, and generally a decent guy.

I did already!
:)

sent him also the link of the scam accusation. but what's the chance he's not aware of this?
I wish the casino owner was an honest person and the whole matter has been handled by unprofessional greedy managers.
The fact that they casino rep has been defaming publicly the game provider is a big thing.

It would be amazing if  the owner is not involved and the managers just acted ruthlessly and damage the casino reputation.
Everything is possible i guess.

He does know now as i tagged him so we shall see.

It would be a dream if the casino owner fires the managers and pays the winning but i do not hold any hopes.

We shall see!

The only way for that to happen, is if the managers took your winnings for themselves. Otherwise they have no reason to withhold winnings. But if they took it, it won't stay under the radar. So this is all very unlikely.

That's too bad. That agreement wouldn't even allow you to share your own answers to the questions that LTC Casino asked while covering sensitive and private information? You don't have to share the actual betting data, transaction records, etc.

So either the casino or the player could share the data without breaking the NDA agreement? Are you saying that LTC Casino could make the data public if they wanted to with no repercussions to them and the same rules apply to the player?

I wish i could but the casino blocked my account otherwise i would have already share it!!!

Ltc casino share the game history with casino guru btw and they found not irregularities.

I wonder if i give permission via email to the game provider if they could share it as the casino blocked my account and i can't access my own data!

If a player would publish his own data, then it is not a case of breaking GDPR rules, as it is his own choice. We can't do it.  If LTC Casino would like to do it, they also can, if the player is ok with it, they would already do it, as they have all the necessary evidence, but we know what is the case here, and why they won't do it.  We already did our official statement to LTC Casino about the case, we are absolutely fine if they would share it. We would also be happy to see their evidence of the bug in our game, which was officially announced here, as looks like the player (bambolina) is the only person who knows it (together with LTC Casino representatives) but is not smart enough to use it one of the hundreds online casinos which are offering this game for players. That also shows how trustworthy the explanations of LTC Casino are.

How can i obtain my own data ?

The casino blocked my account , if the casino let me access my account i'll be more than happy to share but so far the casino ignores me and they won't even reply to me!

@ltccasino can u please send me my data??

I have not issue for the casino to share publicly my game history and they might aswell share the deposit history like that people can actually see that its crazy to think one would spend so much money if they had this magic bug!!

They don't share because the truth will seal the case!

Ltc share it and lets see whos lying!

Unfortunately, it is completely against the rules and standards of civilized and licensed casinos. They can block your account to not allow you to put more bets, and do deposits/withdrawals if they have a reason for it, but blocking the history is clear evidence of scam activities. Of course, let's give a chance to LTC Casino representative and let's wait for their reply, now when they can't blame our studio anymore, maybe they can show the evidence here?

I have asked in this forum already  to them to share my game history and even my deposit history but they didn't even Acknowledged  me!!

I  was simply the cash cow , they never treated me like a clients but like a scammer from day one.


Let's wait and see if they are going to  finally show some evidence to back up all their accusations.

Now the cards can be put in the table for everyone to see who's the scammer!!

i dont think any evidence will matter now . it seems the casino had two options first to keep the reputation and pay you your 1300ltc .  second option is scam you for 1300ltc and sacrifice the reputation here . so i guess they choose the second option .
they gonna be like 1xbit finding new clients from other platforms or by banner advertisements . its not like every gambler use bitcointalk . we saw many players fall victim to site like 1xbit  even thought since years 1xbit was tagged as scam  .. and those victims find out about bitcointalk after they fall victim and after too late so i guess its the same case gonna be with ltc casino .
also they might target users who search for keyword ltc casino or litecoin casino .. only effective way might be to report it to google if there a way so google search can drop the ranking

its better to move on OP .

I knew they were scammers from the moment they blocked my account as an honest casino would have email me a congratulations email and let me know that they were going to start an investigation as standard procedure.

ONLY A ROGUE CASINO BLOCK THE USER AND GHOSTS HIM.

The chat operator was always so rude and then simply close my chat when i tried to get some updates.
MY money might be gone but i'll now make sure every single place will be warned about them.
I haven't thought about google but i will today.

Plenty of places were can i warn others about them.

Also the owner of this casino seems to live in Portugal so i'll see if i can report him there  as he's the Ceo  of LTC.
if i can spend 16 hours playing a slot i can also do 16 hours a day campaign to make sure others will not get scammed.
.

They did indeed chose my money over their reputation , so let's see now how cost effective it will be for them to steal my winnings.

I'll be driven by anger and nothing is going to stop me now.

@bambolina
You can post in the Casino Guru thread that Wazdan has no problems with LTC Casino sharing the complete data they have on your activities. Include the links to the posts where they mention it in this thread. You can also ask the Wazdan forum rep to post in the Casino Guru thread that it's ok to share the data. I doubt it will change the casino's decision at this point in time, but you never know. That way at least everyone will see them as the bad guy withholding information and refusing a payout with no proof of wrongdoings.   

@Volt Ent  would you be able to do that?

Ltc casino has share the gameplay history with casino guru rep , of course they also found not irregularities on it and of course ltc casino did not accept that either.

As the player i am happy to share my data as is mine and the casino has deliberately block my account to hide the proves as if they wre innocent they would want to cooperate  and share the truth.

@Pmalek  i think is clear who's the bad guy is here, i will however contact casino guru and ask them.

LTC sent me a message saying they will reply later today, I hold not hopes to be honest.

Let's see what other excuses they will come up with!!

I am a victim in here and i will not fight so hard if i cheated and i will do anything i can to expose this casino now.

PS  why om earth the game provider and casino guru would have lied about their checks? They are the ones with the good reputation and not ltc casino.

https://imgur.com/a/z0bZ1qA

Above  is what  ocean affiliate  said at Guard Dog.

Now is 4 jackpot  on a row!

Is so true lies have short memories, they can't  catch up with their lies.

I have won 3, one beg of jan and two  last week of Feb.

Not of those were on a row.
If the casino would share the game history all their lies could be seen.

Also the game I played has 4 bonus jackpots it wasn't  like a normal jackpot  but it was part of the game and the first one I have won was a small one because  I was play small bets.
Its just incredible  how much they are lying.

Now they are even implying that the game provider could be a fake profile.
I Have sent an email to wadzan and send them a copy of their statement  to see if the profile is real.

They don't know how to get  out of this situation clean.
They can steal forever because one day u find someone that is not going to let you do it.
Very simple.

Well, Seems LTC Casino doesn't bother to discuss this matter anymore. They have left their final posts here. They didn't respond to a single question after 15th April except by saying this on their ANN,


I guess it's already proven that LTC Casino is a Scam Casino. I suggest Everyone not play there anymore. Every DT should Tag them without further discussion.

@bambolina You confusing everyone by posting several posts. Gather them at once. Do not post consecutive posts. Just Edit the last one to add more.

Dear authorized representative of Volt Entertainment the official provider of games under the WAZDAN brand, we do totally agree with you. It's absolutely unacceptable to directly communicate with the player in a B2B segment. With over 15 years of experience in gambling industry we can not remember even one single case where game provider at least considers to give any data or answers to the player. It is always communication or via casino or via platform, never player to provider directly, this is absolutely unacceptable. From our point of view it seems like you are actually very good friends with this specific player. So is it being professional you state? What about the questions we did ask you during our investigation and you gave literally close to zero answers, while over weeks you've been "analyzing"... Thats what you told us. Maybe this is the defenition of being professional? Not to mention that our casino is totally anonymous. We DO not disclose any information provided to us by the player. So the fact that you used an email from the game history, linked it to the email of the player who wrote to you and in this way identified that it was exactly this player is absolutely unacceptable. This puts any other player at any other casino at risk with your malpractice in future. It appears that anybody can write you down and have a friendly chat with a chance of players sensitive data be disclosed under certain circumstances. This is absolutely unacceptable.


Second, it is very easy and simple to be good at the expense of others. While you, as the game provider do not cover any potential winnings you can say whatever you want and be a honey bunny in others eyes. You say it looks way out of the reality now and works against us. But the truth is, even in 2022 games DO have bugs. It is the reality itself. The only question is how do game providers handle those issues which occur constantly. Either it happens through a not well calculated game math, or in-game bugs, chance of using third party software the fact remains. Providers still do make mistakes. The only difference what matters after something similiar take place how well do providers behave after. As we have mentioned before in very recent case of the mistake with other game provider, this provider did take following actions:
1. fixed in-game bugs
2. made full compensation
And this is an example of excellent handling.
Some game providers admitted there fails but didn't want to make it public. So the fact you say mistakes are not possible looks way out of the reality now and works against you for the people who are still able to think.

Do hundreds of players play only one specific game day and night non-stop? Do hundreds of players win your big jp 3 times in a matter of day?
To make things even more interesting, this specific player made numerous topics on the one of the biggest gambling forums.
And always he is trying to accuse different casinos in something and get any kind of compensation. So he is not as pure as he is trying to appear. The worst thing from a casino side which can be done is to pay to a scammer or fraudster. It does not only tolerate other "shady" people to step inside and take action in possible scams but also makes other honest players to suffer from side effects.

We DO not have any problems with paying winnings to any PLAYER. In fact even from the start of this year we have already paid more than 50 000 LTC in cashouts whith some payouts equal or bigger than this specific case. If a game provider is still so confident in honesty of the "player" and its own game after all the evedince that where provided by us we do suggest to pay the amount which player claims to the player directly. It went very well with communication between them, so we do not see any problem in transaction as well.

Ltc casino u must know that  lies can be proven.
The game provider never ever exchange data with me they simply told me they replied to your requests because you kept saying that the game provider wasn't replying to you.
Friends? You are a fantasist , I can show to everyone the very first email I sent to the game provider and their reply, I didn't even ask any data because I knew I didn't cheat, all I asked them was if they replied to you as you kept denying the game provider was not replying to you.
Not one of the single emails that  i actually shared in this forum was friendly or exposed any data. Again you make accusation based on lies with not proves. I guess this is your style to escape playing players.


"Do hundreds of players play only one specific game day and night non-stop? Do hundreds of players win your big jp 3 times in a matter of day?"
THIS IS THE BIGGEST LIE OF ALL I DID NOT WIN THE 3 JACKPOT IN DAY!!!

Please share the game play or the last 3 days : 23-24-25 and show to people this big jackpots?
I have won 2  in separate days ,and one in jan  what's the matter with your people?
Today the ocean affiliate in guard watch wrote i won 4 jackpot in a row!!! Who's the liar here?? C'mon!!

It sound like you try to get providers to pay for  the winnings and if they refuse you you just slander them!

Btw your accusation about me regarding making accusation of  other casino again pure fabrication, if i had issues with a scammer casino i highlighted to the gambling forum where i found them. it's a lot scamming site like yours Ltc casino you are not the only one scamming people. Infact the casino i accuse of scamming in the site you said was closed down for fraud!! Dang!!
How about you find a single case o me using bugs? I guess you tried hard but the reality the shady one is you here.

Share the game history and let the community decide as all your lies must be proven.

Casino guru checked the game history and they found nothing either and before you say anything is the game history you have send them. Even their checks werent good enough right??
You just want to find a way of not paying.
I am shady?? TTR casino have been backlisted by ask gambler anyone can check for abuse behaviour .

" BLACKLISTED: TTR Casino is being added to our blacklist due to the fact that a member of their management has been found in conducting unjustified, abusive and defamatory campaign against AskGamblers. We believe that verbal aggression and slanderous campaigns totally contradict to the normal business relationships based on mutual respect and professionalism. AskGamblers maintain zero tolerance towards such unprofessional behaviour and strongly encourage players to stay away from this casino."

In two month i have found plenty of stuff about your casino and the so called owner and I'm not the shady one here!!

looks like youare a professional a slandering and making defamatory campaign against players , forums and now game providers.

Anyways BITCOINTALK community this is the type of people running this casino, if u ever win anything they will take few months to find a good excuse for not paying you, and this is the mot fair casino in the web.

Ltc casino pay my money or show where is this bug or share the game history , at least try a bit to clear your name or yo just want to be know or the casino who steals money with not evidence?

ps in 15 years of experience is it your habit to make defamatory accusation about game providers? Because you have been slandering and laying about the game provider  here. the game provider simply said that they reply  to you.
This is not data!!! You have all the data and not sharing it and not even allowing me the player to access it!!! Which casino does that??


https://www.casinoz.club/content/truth-about-ttr-casino-615.html

 check why ttr casinos are on top of gambling sites!!! today I was banned by lbc casino because i have posted the game provider reply in my complaint and this article explain why LTC casino is not in the rogue casino list as he knows the owner or Lbc casino and the rep was extremely protective over the casino who has already so many bad reviews in their site, but i guess is money talk and who u know.

In closing how can u refuse to pay me when you do not have prove of this imaginary bug? How come others casino have not raise issues about this game? Could it be the honest casino simply play players when they win and they do not take few months to make up excuses or blame providers?

Please u must explain for real where is my cheating, try at least!!

you keep complaining about a bug, but maybe other casinos don't have this game? how many casinos have complained that this game has a bug? no casino came to complain about it! so the game works fine!

you complain that the player cheated, but you have no proof of it, what you are doing is just accusing the player and the provider without having any proof. you have to understand that the guy who is wrong in this story is you. As a casino it is your duty to pay the player when he wins, you shouldn't accuse a player without having proof, you have to pay.

First of all, we NEVER shared any infos with the player, except the one that we are not longer running any investigation, as you were all the time informing - also here, that it is our fault, and that it is Volt Ent. who is blocking the money. If you didn't start to lie, we wouldn't be forced to do it.

Second, we answered all your questions, please check your email, please understand what we are writing. If after receiving the answers, a few days ago you are again asking the same questions, just to get some time or convince us to answer in the way you would like to be answered "yes, there is a bug. We don;t have it, but as long as you want it we will admit it" - it is not our responsibility to answer you again the same things. If you have any PROVEN bugs documentation in our game, please do share it with us and not only be sure that we have some bug somewhere. The game is on the market for almost a year now, used by hundreds of casinos and after one win you are accusing everyone of problems except yourself. It is not our job to check if the player has some bad history with bonus abuse, or playing on the multiple accounts - if you at least do some "homework" you would know that it is your job to identify your players and fight against bonus abuse.

And as the most important - you were the first who asked here casinos not to use our software, just because you think there are bugs. So it is not your fault - it is for sure our fault, just because you say so and you don't care about the evidence. The game which was nominated to many awards by users in your opinion has to be with a bug just because you feel so. Makes sense, and it is very trustworthy. So be so kind, and please immediately stop justifying your scam activities by lies which are (just to mention a few)
- we were blocking the payment
- you have evidence there is a bug in the game
- we know the player and we are trying to abuse your casino with him
- it is impossible to win 3 or 4 jackpots in Hold the Jackpot feature
- it is forbidden to play long game sessions (if it is in your casino, then please show T&C and you are absolutely fine with blocking the payment)

it is as trustworthy as Russia stating that they didn't attack Ukraine now. If you want to go this way, please save our time for reading your posts here, as everybody knows the truth and you are just trying to convince us to your side.




Second, it is very easy and simple to be good at the expense of others. While you, as the game provider do not cover any potential winnings you can say whatever you want and be a honey bunny in others eyes. You say it looks way out of the reality now and works against us. But the truth is, even in 2022 games DO have bugs. It is the reality itself. The only question is how do game providers handle those issues which occur constantly. Either it happens through a not well calculated game math, or in-game bugs, chance of using third party software the fact remains. Providers still do make mistakes. The only difference what matters after something similiar take place how well do providers behave after. As we have mentioned before in very recent case of the mistake with other game provider, this provider did take following actions:
1. fixed in-game bugs
2. made full compensation
And this is an example of excellent handling.
Some game providers admitted there fails but didn't want to make it public. So the fact you say mistakes are not possible looks way out of the reality now and works against you for the people who are still able to think.

Do hundreds of players play only one specific game day and night non-stop? Do hundreds of players win your big jp 3 times in a matter of day?
To make things even more interesting, this specific player made numerous topics on the one of the biggest gambling forums.
And always he is trying to accuse different casinos in something and get any kind of compensation. So he is not as pure as he is trying to appear. The worst thing from a casino side which can be done is to pay to a scammer or fraudster. It does not only tolerate other "shady" people to step inside and take action in possible scams but also makes other honest players to suffer from side effects. [/quote]

As I already mentioned - if you have any proof the player is an abuser, please feel free to make your own decision based on YOUR OWN evidence, and please don't connect it with our studio or any bugs in our software, as you ask to understand your position but to achieve it you want to put a blame on someone else.


We DO not have any problems with paying winnings to any PLAYER. In fact even from the start of this year we have already paid more than 50 000 LTC in cashouts whith some payouts equal or bigger than this specific case. If a game provider is still so confident in honesty of the "player" and its own game after all the evedince that where provided by us we do suggest to pay the amount which player claims to the player directly. It went very well with communication between them, so we do not see any problem in transaction as well.



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You're grasping at straws now. You seem unable to accept that players in a casino can sometimes win, and when that happens, switching from blaming the player to blaming the game provider only makes you look worse.
Which one is it? Are they best friends? Or is it a random player?

None of this is helping your case, and you're not convincing anyone. What might help, is answering questions, like this one:
But somehow I get the feeling you don't want any third party to see the actual data.

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@bambolina: I recommend you create a Type 3 Flag ("This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages."). If you read the details carefully, I will Support the Flag. If it gets Support from 3 DT-members, LTC Casino gets a big red warning label on their Bitcointalk topic for the coming 10 years.

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@Volt Ent. (Wazdan): Please fix your quotes in the post above. It's a bit messy now.

i can't work out how to do the red flag :(

I have sent a message to ltc casino as ultimatum as if they can't prove my cheating to pay me or  will open this red flag, i doubt they care but  i will do anything possible to stop them and scam other people.

they eve refuse to share the game history which we all know why!!
They know that will be the kiss of death , if there was something illegal that would have posted form day one the scoundrel.
Casino guru checked the game history and they found nothing of the ordinary there, am i best friend with them too?
They have not excuses and they do pure gaslighting , the predator blames the victim.

Their game is over.

I'll wait an hour for LTC casino to reply to my message and then I'll do the red flag, i just need to work out how to do it, the irony is that i am so ignorant abyt tech stuff and this scammer casino is accusing me to make bugs!! the irony of all!!

THIS IS THEIR CHANCE TO PROVE TO PEOPLE THEY ARE NOT A RUSSIAN UNLICESED SCAM SITE.
they said they have paid 50000 ltc.. hahahahhahaha  NOBODY BELIEVES THAT.

It's funny how you talk about what is acceptable and what isn't when you have blocked the player's access to his own account so that he can't access his own data. The game provider has already stated that they are OK with you releasing the data about the player. Why haven't you done it? LoyceV has asked you to to send him the data, and bambolina doesn't mind. Why haven't you done it? My opinion: you are hiding something. You know that the info you have doesn't work in your favor, otherwise you would have posted it. By not doing that it has become clear that you are the bad apple in this entire story.

You mean the questions that you refuse to release publicly for reasons only known to yourself?

All true. Can you show us what mistakes have been made in this particular game? Can you prove there are mistakes? Can you show us examples where this mistake has occurred and been reported by other casinos? Can you show us how Wazdan refuses to provide the requested information? I think everyone knows you can't and nothing you said has been supported with any evidence.   

If they do, is that sufficient proof of cheating?

Show us the 3 wins that occurred a few days apart!
What are the chances that you win a lottery jackpot? Pretty small right? How about 2 times, 4, 7, or 30. It does happen (https://www.lovemoney.com/gallerylist/76987/lottery-jackpot-winners-who-won-more-than-once), and when it does, it's not cheating just because you have a hunch.   

He is a gambling addict. He admits he has problems. Maybe he is pure scum or the best person you could come across, it doesn't change the fact that you have no proof he cheated and scammed your establishment.

I created a red flag against @ltccasino


I invite everyone to help me to prevent future players to be scammed so badly but this ruthless casino.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2949

They refuse to share my game history and they blocked my account in order to prevent me to defend myself.

Let's clean the community from this fraudsters because in 2 months they haven't be able to prove even a tiny evidence, all they did was lying and making defamatory accusations.


I'll make sure this casino illegal practices will be reported everywhere,


Thank you in advance for those who supported the first flag.

My mental health has been deteriorating in the past few months because of this scammer nobody should have endure such a treatment by a casino.

PLEASE HELP ME TO AT LEAST PREVENT THEM TO SCAM OTHERS.

This is pure drivel. Have you taken the time to think through what your're writing? You're digging yourself a bigger hole. Can you provide any piece of evidence to support your claims. So far its all conjecture on your part. How about releasing the player's game data?

I have supported your flag. Although I don't generally get myself involved with flag issues, I have followed this thread closely from its start. LTC Casino has failed to provide a shred of evidence as proof that they are doing the right thing. They promised to release the player's data once the investigation ended and now they don't want to do that portraying themselves as a party protecting private information. Neither Wazdan, the game provider, nor the player have any objections against making the data public, but LTC Casino is still refusing to do it.

Besides allegations and hunches that everyone else is wrong, lying, conspiring, and cooperating to cheat their casino, they have nothing real to say.   

With less than 15 years experience, I can.  After scamming a player out of a jackpot Betsoft contacted the player. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667860.msg16745828#msg16745828

That's really shocking you have 15 years experience.  By the way you destroyed the reputation of LTCCasino so quickly I was quite sure you were a rookie that had no idea how things work in this world.  But I guess you're just an idiot (and a scammer).

What is really sickening is that the casino had not intentions to pay me ever.

Ltc casino has gone silent now but all they were asked was to show transparency.

@ltccasino why you refuse to share the gameplay if  you are so sure i have used a software?  
Why the casino has never made one single contact direct with me? Not a single email was sent, do you really think that after bragging that you guys have 15 years of experience this is normal?
At first you used the multiple account excuse which i publicly shown that you actually advertise the use of multiple accounts.

You have said i have played not stop but my accounts where open from jan first till end of Feb, i never used them all together as i close each one with time out as  the casino refused to close them even when  i have told them about being preying in vulnerable players.  I get that you couldn't care less, but at least don't lie as i can prove each account was close in time out expect the last one as you did remove the responsible gambling option : hint i couldn't stop playing.

After you start to blame the game provider not sending you the infos  requested, yet casino guru checked the game history you actually send them upon their requests and again nothing was irregular was found.

You have said i have won 3 big jackpot in a row, your ocean affiliate in guard dog said 4 in a row, again lies.
I have won a jackpot in Jan ( with the small bet ) and managed to lose it all as the withdrawals limit as so small , the last two were on a day apart  and yes i did play a crazy amount of hours but also a crazy amount of money in your site. You have said i used auto spin, not i didn't. You have said i  did not stop for 16 hours, not true again.
The gameplay will show who says the truth and who doesn't.
Regarding a bug  i don't have a clue how a bug works , you said there is a bug in the game? Prove it, and even if there was a bug in the game, what fault do i have on this?

I have waited 2 months patiently believing once this so called investigation i wold have get my money and then you started to blame the game provider not giving you the answers you need it.
Yet you can show publicly the correspondence you had.
Not happy and not having anymore excuses for not paying me you had the audacity to say i am a friend with the game provider. lol and lol again.
I have the very first email i have send them and one can work out easily if i am a friend of them or not.
They never shared data with me. they simply said to me they replied to you as you kept lying about them not replying to you.

I have shared the emails i received nothing in this email gives away data.
Also you must understand i did not need the game provider to tel me i did not cheat , i never asked as i did not. That was something i didn't need to know as i didn't cheat.

Your constant lies needed to be confronted as  you blocked my account and i could not access  my game play ( 15 years of experience and u don't  know that i should be in title of my gameplay) and you kept saying the game provider didn't reply to  you.

You have said once the investigation were closed you would have shared all the info's, where are this info's?

I want to know why you refuse to share my game history if you are so sure i have cheated ? Why? Wouldn't this makes you look like you are right if i had cheated?

We both know and the rest of the gambling community that you are not sharing because you are aware that cheating on my side did not occur as you ould have share it long time ago if there was irregularities.

Furthermore you said i was suspicious to have asked 2/3 of my winnings not understanding the amount of distress this whole matter caused me and i was prepared to forfeit lot of money to have a big lump of money straightway as i did  lose all the first winning money in a matter of days , so it was to protect myself from myself since your daily cashout limits are so small.
I have patiently waited two months and you came out with not evidence against me.  Real evidence not fantasy accusations.

Your issues with the game provider have nothing to do with me, and you could provide the prove of this bug if you have some. and even if there was a bug what fault would i have in this?
I have made well over 15k in deposits this is British money  15k not some poor fiat money.

I am still waiting for my winning and  i will not stop.

Is your reputation worth less than 1496 ltc?

Your casino lasted very little and the entire reputation of TTR CASINOS are now at stakes.

I have not intention and never had to ruin your reputation i only wanted and want to get paid.
I have never won anything in my life and you will not rob me of that.

I will go to a great length to make sure your casinos pays me unless you are willing to close it down and stop doing what you done to me to other people.

My mental state has deteriorated because of your ill practice and if this will end up to court i will have to be taken in consideration.

I am sure you don't care about other people mental health but you should as there is people who kill themselves over this sort of matter.

In closing : kindly pay my winnings, you reputation will be restore if you do the right thing.

Casino guru checked my game history and there was not foul play, if there is  bug you are going to fight your own battle with the game provider but i have nothing to do with that.
I think the fact that felix found a bug you are now convinced that every slot as a bug and u probably expect every game provide to pay for players winnings.



Till you pay me  i consider my money stolen by  your casino since you have not been able to provide a single proof of me cheating.

i don't know how to tag ltc casino, if anyone can help me i would appreciate it.

You have already created two flags against LTC Casino that were supported by DT members. A red notification now appears above every thread they create on the forum warning other users about them being scammers. You are not a DT member, so your trust feedback will not change their already negative rating. But if you still want to write one, follow these steps:

• Click on the Trust button on LTC Casino's profile page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3408346).
• Click on "Post new feedback" at the top of the page.
• Select the negative feedback type, add the link to your scam accusation thread, and write a comment that will become visible on their profile page for everyone to see.

It should be 1-2 short sentences summarizing the incident. Check out the other feedback already posted on their profile to know how they are supposed to look.

https://imgur.com/a/3WeXPbm

Hi Wadzan support , here a screenshot  of who owns this casino kindly shared by Ltc casino rep in ome of his posts.
If u ever will be taking legal  actions I'm  at your disposal.

Quoting is easier (archived here (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5879/58793014.html)):
This last part didn't age well. Claiming that someone is a "multi-millionaire" might sound impressive to LTC Casino, but to me it sounds like they're trying to impress someone. Apparently that's very important to them, unlike paying winnings.

That Instagram profile no longer exists. But even if it did, who knows if it's even true. You can claim whatever you want on this forum. If you intend to deceive someone or cheat them out of their money (assuming that's the goal of this casino), you would probably be trying to hide your identity and lying about who you are.

Have you tried contacting that alleged owner to see what he says? I kind or remember that you said you did in your previous posts.

TTr is on guard dog but he has ignored my messages. He's the ceo of LTC Casino apparentely and based in Portugal.
Ocean affiliate is there and  they reply with more lies, he's probably Andrey replying.
I tried to contact him on telegram as someone on Pm sent me the contact but not reply.
He doesn't  care, he's probably reading this and laughing at me.
But i am very persistent and ill make sure this casino will lose more money than i have won.
I wonder if the game provider will take legal action as they publicly made defamatory accusation against them and warn other casino not to use them.  Hopefully the will.

My money is clearly stolen  and the casino is probably worth less than my own deposits.

If anyone can advice every single place i can report this site i would really appreciate.
Hopefully casino guru will lower the score down where they belong today or tomorrow.
They didn't managed to convinced them  either.
Only a fool would listen to this sort of liars.
Legal action advice  appropriate for this sort of  frauds  is appreciated.
The owner of this casino seems to live in Portugal so is not that impossible to reach as if it was living in Russia.( accordingly to guard dog where TTR is the ceo of this casino)
Any credible gambling forum where i can share my horror story and warn other players.
I will also see to warn the game provider they have in case they have another winner and they will try not to pay them and blame the provider. It looks like they are doing this game for not paying people.
I will send email to Felix and see how the event really happened.

Please feel free to send me a private message if you are not comfortable to share it here.

This casino is clearly scamming people into making deposits  and find any excuses for not paying which is fraud.

LTC Casino cooperates with dozens of game providers as you can see from the information on their homepage. You could try to get in contact with each and single one of them and inform them about your situation. Share the link to this thread and the Casino Guru one and describe what happened. They might not care, but who knows. Just make sure you sound professional when you do it.

From what I've seen on Bitcointalk: when someone claims not to need money because they're rich, they do so to scam you.

You know what they say: "There is no bad publicity".

Have you contacted GoDaddy yet? They've registered the domain.

I haven't but I will now!!!

Thank you.


MR TTR IS ON GUARD DOG AND HE WAS SEEN ON MONDAY   https://www.affiliateguarddog.com/community/members/ttr.11796/#about

He has ignored my messages  but I'm 100% sure he reads them.
I honestly think the casino doesn't have the money as no reputable casino who's making money would have done that.

 I will contact every single provider that works for them share the link and make them aware of the situation as  yo never know they will try again with the next winner with them.
if they are doing this game for not paying their players is  game is over now.
They are all friends when is time to eat but very few people will help when is time to pay.


I am on a mission and i will not be stopped unless they pay and they apologies which is  more likely i win the euro million!!


@Pmalek   I will try , u never know!
At the end of the day if that happens again they will use this case to win a case.
I wonder what  has really happened with Felix.
The player said that has lost all his money playing.... and then the game provider statement came out.

@ltccasino active in bitcointalk at 3:21pm today  but nowhere to be seen in the posts he's suppose to to replying.

The tos basically states they can ban, take lock you out for whatever reason they want to really. ltccasino's tos in particular wouldn't make me want to touch it with a 10ft pole.
Alot of things are catch 22's as well.
"In case we discover that a player has participated in any type of fraudulent actions, such as game manipulation, payment fraud, provision of false personal data, money laundering, using stolen credit cards, etc., the Casino reserves the right to disclose such player’s personal data to any third party or make it publicly available."

"A participating in any type of collusion with other players
B development of strategies aimed at unfaithful winnings
C using third party software
D fraudulent actions against other online casinos or payment providers
E threats or blackmail of any kind against the casino
F charge back procedures or denial of some payments made
G providing incorrect information about personal data during registration
H other types of cheating
Should any of the previous situations occur the Casino reserves the right to block the player's account, while the investigation is being carried out, for a period of up to 3 months."

Now is the time to put this statement to the test.
You either think they did something bad and should publish said data , or you dont and should issue payment.
"Suspicion" alone isn't enough in a ecosphere filled only with data.

TOS are irrelevant when there's no way to enforce them from the perspective of the player.  An unlicensed casino can do whatever it wants.  Their reputation in the community is the only thing that holds them accountable.
 Those are the terms. 

Can anyone advice if that could be something that i could use considering Ltc casino has bragged that the casino owner is a Russian Millionaire and disclosed his full name.
Ltc ceo  is on guard God and states in Portugal.

The casino is clearly operating Worldwide  Europe and Usa included.

Would be worth to try to try to get them investigated and  the current Russian sanctions should be applied ?

I found this article and wondering if i should try  to see as they are not only taking money but they are doing it illegally.

https://www.eureporter.co/world/russia/2022/03/04/european-commission-launches-a-whistleblower-tool-to-facilitate-reporting-of-russian-sanctions-violations/


I have already filed a report here https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement  as they are actually accepting and taking money from USA too. Many reviews from Usa complained about this casino.

Food for thoughts?

I am Oprah Winfrey and Batman in my spare time. What I just said has no meaning and you can't use it to prove anything. LTC Casino is an unlicensed crypto casino. You are going to have a difficult time to find out who the owner is no matter what is written on the forum. I am not saying it isn't, but why would you believe that to be true if they are lying about so many other things?

You are right, but at this point  is nothing more to lose  on my side.
I'll  be trying every option  available  to stop them.

TTR himself announced his new ltc casino, in russian but still.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSAPppYC5y8&t=47s "we’re launching ltccasino tomorrow". Not sure why he decided not to pay your winnings, in past he had enough money to pay such amount, especially with such low as 300ltc/month withdrawal limits.

Also he never hid his identity. Few years ago he even showed his passport on youtube video because some streamer blamed his casino for leaking personal info lol. If you dig some more you can find a lot of info about him(mostly in russian for sure).

Exactaly, and as judge jury and executioner (community), We want to see the data they claim they will provide publicly.
I particularly want to see the timestamps to see if OP was scripting. Although I don't know if console scripting would count as 3rd party "software" considering the platform is presented on 3rd party software "Browser"
In this case even cookies would count against an endpoint user in terms of violating tos.
Martingale dice "strategy" would be a violation too.
Nothing anyone would care to enforce unless it was ohh I don't know $150k+ usd prize pot?
Here's an average of what I see
https://i.ibb.co/wY70f7Q/ltccas.png
outside looking in this appears to be biased without the presented/proposed data.
ltccasino has mentioned the data but hasn't presented it. so the counterclaim is meritless filibuster.
But here's what I did notice, LTCC has validated that OP did in-fact get the win. And has locked out OP's account.
OP cannot back anymore claim's due to this but OP's initial claim has been in-fact validated by the opposing user LTCC
LTCC has spoke on the data but has not presented it. So LTCC must have concluded the investigation and doesn't care what the community thinks.
My 2 satoshi fwiw.

@bambolina
What is going on with the Casino Guru thread? There have been numerous posts both by LTC Casino and yourself, but everything is still waiting to be approved and it's been like that for about a week. Usually they are quicker with allowing the posts to become public.

Two members of casino guru said that yesterday or latest today Andrej the guy in charge of my case was going to close my case an supprort my case as the casino didn't stand a chance with the proves they sent them. and their score will change dramatically.
https://casino.guru/forum/casinos/ltc-casino---general-discussion/6#post-21416   scroll down here to see what they said.


It has been 2 months now, hopefully they will do it today.
I need to have it done as i need to open my Pab at Mc as per rule i am not allowed to have two cases open at the same time with Mc. I know that Ltc casino still won't pay but at least TTR's casino will be exposed for their ill practices.
Mc have plenty of members and now is going to be just a matter of exposing  this casinos.
They surely don't care about their reputation for what I understood., but at least players will be warned that this casino dosent pay.

Meantime Ltc Last Active was :   April 21, 2022, 08:40:45 AM , they come read and make not comments.
Someone in Pm has told me they open a new casino and they posted the link again here in BT but i am not sure if is true, I need to investigate a bit. Can Pm you the name of this casino.
Meantime the game provider has gone silence too.

Very curious what was said:

https://i.snipboard.io/MBJUaZ.jpg

Also want to say hats off to Wazden, I don't think most providers would give enough of a shit to even respond to a player (Obviously that's what LTCCasino was hoping would happen).  

Would be great to see more provider player interaction in the future.

Rinse and repeat I guess. Why does that person believe it's the same people that operate both casinos?

There isn't really much they can say. They aren't allowed to share any private data without breaking non-disclosure agreements. They came to clear their name because the casino accused them of having bugs in their slots and colluding to cheat.

Had LTC Casino not started accusing Wazdan of wrongdoings and questioned the integrity of their games, the provider would probably not have responded since it's an issue between a player and a casino and it has nothing to do with them. Scammers learn and adapt. For their next scam, they won't take it that far as to accuse someone else, besides the player obviously. 

I don't think that's the reason they responded initially. The player informed them, but they responded because the casino was badmouthing them:

@Pmalek
"Rinse and repeat I guess. Why does that person believe it's the same people that operate both casinos"
Apparently  someone told them in confidence.

@LoyceV
Also very  correct, the game provider  came in the  forum  to clear their name after I have send them  the stuff LTC was saying about them.

@TwitchySeal
I was told 2 days ago that the case would have been closed 2 days ago.
I haven't  got any updates yet beside the two members  saying that the casino  had not proves.

The fact the Ltc casino  has been active  in Bitcointalk and not replying  to any of the posts speaks loud and clear.

I have ask them  so many time to share my gameplay  history  and they  never  even responded  why they aren't doing it if they are so sure i scammed them. The reality is  they know i have not cheated but now  they  just remain  silent because  they have nothing to prove.

They are convinced  players  can't win and probably a standard  practice  of  gaslight and not play players .
Revolting  is all i can say.


@ltccasino  Are u going to share the gameplay  and the investigation  results you said  you would have once u close the case?

I sign up on their casino when they are starting out but stopped playing when there are scam reports here I just received this newsletter 3 hours ago, it seems they want to re-establish their casino again, and I will not believe this until they fix their issues and complaints.

 

They will carry on scamming as many people as possible till the very site who gets pay to give them high scores will carry on.
They never reply to one of my emails yet they send their newsletters.

Mean time the casino has stop replying , probably realising that they cant prove anything and they clearly don't care about their reputation in the industry.
They never had a reputation so they prefer not paying players and keep their money.7
You have seen their practice so best to stay away as they are ruthless.

I haven't used the site, but since they have a jackpot, doesn't that mean they can have very high multipliers? Usually, the max bet should depend on the multiplier used. If you can get for instance 1000x, you can end up winning 2 million dollars from a single bet. And a healthy casino shouldn't risk losing more than 1% (or less) of their bankroll to a single bet, which would mean they need to own at least 200 million dollars to be able to support such bets.
I know I've made some assumptions, but if this is correct, my next assumption is they don't have funds to pay a lucky winner, and that seems to be what lead to this thread being created.

Total silent from @ltccasino

It is astonishing how they can scam people publicly and not be accountable.
The casino is up running and probably keeping other people deposits and winnings.

I really need help to stop them.

Man I feel you. As a big winner myself on FortuneJack with sportsbets (120,000 dollars unpaid Sportsbet win), it's terrible, but unfortunately this forum will not help you at all. It's only a place where you can express yourself.

An additional problem you have is that you don't even know who stole your money, since their identity is hidden, and you don't even know where they are based, nor do they seem to have a license. Not only they don't care about their reputation but they also think God doesn't exist, which is a good point to make as well in these circumstances, which very few people mention here, but it's a crucial point in my view.

At some point you'll have to put a cross over this money and move on...

Hi there,

thank you. Only if one goes through the same pain can surely understand the depth of it.

I am working everyday doing lot of research and  I will not let this go.
My money might have been gone but the people behind will get caught.
I have full name of the owner and ceo of ltc casino and  the full name of the Head Management of Ocean Affiliates.

The world is small and it appeared to me that they have lots of enemies as I received many information's about this two individuals via private messages.
Looks like i  am not the only one they stole and did wrong.

That will be the most expensive theft they ever done and hopefully last. Every tear i dropped  and every pound they stole for me will be my driven force to make them pay.

I belong to an honest world and i believe in justice and karma and they will not escape that.

They simply  disappeared thinking this is going to be forgotten and that is their biggest mistake because i will not forgive and i will not forget.

good news!

Casino  guru as spoken

https://imgur.com/a/7KD7dc8


Little consolations  but at least ltc casino will have their score  lowered.

@ltccasino are you still hiding?

How about an apology and my payment?

I feel your pain and frustration.

Try to calm down, thats best advise I can give you. I have had similar experience with another casino and I never got paid, it was almost 80k USD.

I also was very nervous and that fuckd up my head a bit.

When I made decision to let go, was the best decision of my life, which I know will be hard for you.

If I understood the thread, casino has made final decision, unfortunantly it means what it stands for.

God bless you and I hope you will get over this.

Based on what the Casino Guru representative have written in the posts that were finally made public, LTC Casino lied about you playing 16 hours straight without a second of a break in between the spins. I remember even asking them a second time if each new spin starts immediately after the last one ended with no seconds apart, and they confirmed that to be the case. As we can see now, that's not true according to Matej from Casino Guru. You took brakes, changed the wagering amounts, and the number of played rounds per minute is different minute in and minute out. That doesn't sound like an automated script or betting software.

It is proved that they are proven scam. In this case forum users cant do anything to recover your fund. Now you can make report against tjem as they have scammed. I am sorry but i have not saved the link but i hope you would be able to find out the link to make report.

Which link?
I have done a re flag and thankfully some users supported the flag.
Now the only thing left for me is arise awareness  of this organization everywhere i can in the net.
The just stolen the money and disappear from bitcointalk  as they have proven publicly they are scammer..
I will make sure not only ltc casino get the reputation they deserve but also the rest of the casinos  owned by the same owner.


They now blocked UK ip, i wonder how many people they scammed

Sorry but I can't remember that and I have not written that anywhere. But that is on the forum. You have taken a good decision to write about that on the internet. It is common that they will leave the forum as they have scammed. When the allowed multi account made me confused that why they will allow multiple account and also why they will give withdrawal option for a small amount of money per day. Now all is clear.

Their t&c are simply made to make sure they don't pay players.
I have read al of the t&c and made sure i did't breach any of them, i also read all the Q&A in their blog that's why i knew they were allowed to open more accounts. Not only, at first they had a responsible gambling option an done could put time out and since the casino refused to close my account when i ask so many in times in chat i was left to make the take max time time out. I done it 3 times as i explained to the chat operator i couldn't stop. When they refused i complaint and told them i would have reported them as they were exploiting vulnerable players.  Did they close my account or banned my ip? Of course not, they kept taking my deposits, only when i won big the show what true colours this casino was made of as they could indeed close my account, ban my ip.

They literally run this casino this way. The 3 months investigation is another practice that they use to have the player given up on their winnings. They literally do not reply to emails ever, unless someone like i did  opens public complaints.  There is so many bad reviews about ltc casino and also the rest of the casino run by  Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev and Sergey Indenok.

They literally do that to everyone and they simply don't care. Brand new complaint in casino guru with the same practice. When a players wins they have an excuse of technical issue for not making a withdrawals , one can only cash out 15ltc , so they let the player replay the money. They done the same with me wen i first won a decent winning, with the excuse of such a small limits and not working the player just play it again.

Such a degusting way to scam people.

My guess is LTC Casinos fate has already been sealed and they know it.  I could be wrong, but this is what it looks like when a casino dies.  The website still works for a bit while they hope a few more victims stumble across and deposit, but eventually in the next few months if not weeks the site will go down and they will be gone.

I'm sorry you got screwed bambolina. For the sake of your own mental health, try to limit how much time you spend thinking about it.  I know it's easier said than done, but this will all be in the past eventually, If I'm right about them giving up, it might as well be sooner than later.

It's sad that another casino scammed people before closing its operation and there is nothing we can do about it. Can't be there any rules regulation which could protect the customer's interest and money ?
Also, its a possibility that the same scammers open up a new casino to scam again in a similar manner as they did in LTC casino. (as they have enough money scammed to setup things again)

Here a video of the LTC ceo Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev speaking about my winnings and the case in his TTR channel.
He speak in Russian but someone in another forum kindly translated in points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGsL7jAt-qM&t=1s




He talks about a lot of things that are unrelated to my case .

Here below The main points are as follows with below my replies.
He feels to explain that to hi Russian followers but not to the rest of the market he takes money from.

1. He would have had no problem paying out this amount if the win had been legitimate - this amount is peanuts.

Me)Who even speaks like that!!!


2. The reason for no-payment is that a new player,  started playing at their casino using a bunch of VPNs and multiple accounts, around 7 or 8.

LOL THE USE OF VPN is highly advertised in the site . 7/8 ACCOUNT FIRST BIG LIE.   1)  Use of vpn  is allowed and advertised and i asked the chat operator too if i could use it as some sites do not allow vpn but me playing form Uk many games were not available. NOT RULES BREACHED AS IS ONE OF THEIR SELLING POINTS THE USE OF VPN                                                                                                                                                                           7/8 ACCOUNTS? big liea again  because i have opened 4 and the ltc rep in bictointalk comfirmed i did open 4 accounts. Reference :https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.40   they confirmed 4 and when i opened the  accusation i said 4 because i opened 4 accounts. Never used them all together. I can also prove they were on time out.


3. The player was playing only one slot game

VERY TRUE, I HAVE PLAYED POWER OF GODS HADES THE COOLEST GAME AMONG THE CHEAP OTHER PROVIDERS SLOTS. i JUST REALLY LOVE THIS GAME.  https://wazdan.com/en/games/game/168

4.He lost around 5-10K EUR from the first three registered accounts (he does not remember exactly how much)

I have lost much more than that as i made  well over 15k British pounds in ltc in deposits and lost also 100ltc from the first jackpot i have won in January. I did not win the jackpots in a row as the liar says an i have lost all the money because i couldn't stop playing and the max withdrawal was 15ltc.

5. Following this loss, the player began blackmailing them and threatening to sue them, claiming to be from the UKGC..

Another lie, i have contacted first the chat provider to close my account as i couldn't stop playing and  when i told him that this behaviour put  vulnerable players at risk he said he didn't care. Than yes , i actually wrote an email of complaint because the casino was acting in such a predatory ways refusing to close my account and i told them if my account wouldn't have been close i would have alarm the ukgc commission . And yes i did ask them a refund of my money, correct. is this scamming behaviour ? Or a player who claims is right to have their account close? Me claiming to be from the UKGC?? LOL I want to have what he has to be so high and make such fabricated lies. Just another lie from the fantasy book of TTR  Again absolutely lies

6. Following that, the player created more accounts, and from the last account, with a balance of 10 Litecoins, the player won three jackpots at 3000x each in a row from 13,000 spins..

, i did not win any jackpots in a row, the gameplay can show this lies. The reason why ltc rep refused to share the gameplay in bitcointalk is because this lies will come out, but i did win two jackpots but one day between after playing crazy hours. Not same amount tough.

7. The thing about this slot game is that it has a range of volatility levels ranging from low to super high.

TRUE.

 

8. According to the player's game history, he was only using the lowest volatility setting when he won the jackpot, however, the jackpot is only available when using the highest volatility setting.

https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqc  This is the screenshot of when i won the biggest jackpot.Does it look lowest volatility. Btw the way i thought the chillies meant the speed of the game.. this is how high tech i am !

9. They closed his account and forwarded it to the game provider (Wazdan) for verification.

So they said, they never email email me to let me know they block the account for investigations.(who does that? they treat me as guilty before even sending anything to the game provider) They just blocked it and they only reply to me via bitcointalk .if i didn't do that they would have probably stolen my money and forget it.

10. After nearly a month of waiting, the provider responded that everything is OK, but without providing any proper piece of information.

.This is what they say the game provider reply is here and is very different from TTR words.https://imgur.com/KiL7flu   link to read it better  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.140

11. They then created a straight to the point list of questions and sent it to Wazdan once more.

Again their words, the game provider deny it and said they replied to all the questions. This i will never know who's lying in  here as ltc casino refuse their correspondence with wadzan.  Wonder why if that would have hepl to clear their name.

 

12. They ended up sending the same list to Wazdan, but they never replied fuck all... Yes exactly like that!

Charming.

13. They had had enough and sent a request to the company from which they connect games (Softswiss).

This was never mentioned in bitcointalk and now it will interesting to see this official statement from Softwiss. PROVES OBVIOUSLY AND NOT CHATS as this will be pop corn material now to see what wadzan has to say also. interesting that Softswiss made such a statement and they did not share it in casino guru? or bitcointalk?  The gameplay was checked by wadzan and casino guru specialist  two third party . How unbiased is soft Swiss and where is the statement with the evidence?

14. Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside.

This what hat i have found about wadzan in askgamblers site. Maybe Andrej or softSwiss can share their findings?   https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/software/wazdan. Again game vulnerability has nothing to do with me.

.Throwing mud at providers will not remove the muds TTR is covered. Where are the evidence? Evidence? i m not wadzan lawyer but Andrey should at least share this amazing findings that still have nothing to do with my winnings.

15. He then says that they discovered a similar case with Wazdan on AskGamblers, in which a player won a massive multiplier and Wazdan initially refused to admit that the game had a bug, but later admitted.
Did they? can't find anything again on the net. iF there was a bug on the slots would be happy days for me as the provider should have pay me. but the question is how come We are all scammers here?

 

16. When he compared his situation to theirs, he realised that it was very similar because Wazdan was unable to answer some of their questions.

?????How so? And why not dealing formally with the provider before defaming me and them publicly? Also wasn't my case similar to booming game case? are they all the same? 

17. The player appears to be from the UK, and his standard practice is to register at unlicensed casinos and then file complaints and blackmail, among other things, after losing money.
 Liar, again i did file complained when i felt it was needed. To made a formal complaint is not illegal and one is not a scammer as there is plenty of casino scammers as ltc in the net

18. After the player was informed that he would not be receiving the money, TTR began receiving messages from various gaming (fake) commissions as well as DDOS attacks.

.This is actually funny, as i can barely use my laptop!!This sound more like his style. PLEASE READ THIS ARTILE AND TELL ME THIS IS NOT COMING AGAIN FROM TEH FANTASY WORLD OF TTR... HE HAS DONE THAT IN THE PAST AND NOW HE THINK EVERYONE WILL DO WHAT HE HAS DONE TO OTHERS??   https://www.casinoz.club/content/truth-about-ttr-casino-615.html  please get pop corns for this one.

19. He personally believes that Wazdan has a vulnerability in the game and that the entire situation is typical of crypto casino scammers, as there are many similar topics on Bitcointalk.

i PERSONALLY BELIEVE TTR IS A SCAMMER THE Difference between me and him i can prove it while TTR just use words and can't shed a drop of evidence except his delusions and  lies.
So much defamation yet not evidence still!!!


can someone tells me if softswiss will be unbiased in this situation?


Thanks for reading and maybe LTC casino want to share his views?

Hey there, thks for letting me know about flags:) Supported it as well.

You can check my flag here as well if you wish: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298;page=iflags

I am new to this thread, had not noticed it before. I am reposting the image links in the OP so it can provide a visual understanding to those also unaware of the situation:

Hello, esteemed player and forum members.

I apologize for not being able to answer every question and comment, so I will try to finally describe our position on this case in one post.

As we have repeatedly stated, we suspect the player of using vulnerabilities in the game provider's software to win. Among other reasons, our suspicions are reinforced by the following factors:

- The player's use of only one slot for all gaming activity over an extended period of time.

- The absence of pauses in the game.

- Ignoring by the game provider Wazdan our specific questions about the gaming activity of this player, including the possibility of winning such amounts using low volatility and so on and so forth.

- A recent case where Felix Gaming provider also had a vulnerability that allowed players to dishonestly win hundreds of thousands of euros and the similarity of this case to the current one.

Our suspicions are also reinforced by the player's past activity on specific forums - you can find many complaints opened by the player against the most different casinos on several forums. Including, a regular practice for the player was the use of blackmail, which he, among other things, tried to do with our casino. The simple trick was that the player would make a deposit, use a British IP address and withdraw the money if he won. In the case of a loss the player began to blackmail the casino with complaints to the law enforcement authorities in the UK to get his deposit back.

Our conviction, based on years of experience, led us to contact for further investigation the higher authorities - White Label Provider (SoftSwiss), which operates our casino. For your understanding, we do not interact with the provider directly, we interact with the provider through SoftSwiss.

We trust SoftSwiss and are convinced that they will involve both experts and the licensing authorities to investigate. We are ready to fully trust SoftSwiss decision on this case and we will comply with it no matter what it is.

If it is found that the player acted honestly - we will pay out the winnings, as we have already repeatedly paid out much larger amounts of winnings to other players.

Dear ltc casino, thanks to at least acknowledged the case.

First i like to know why Andrey ttr the ceo of ltc casino and owner stated in a video published in TTR CASINO channel in telegram in Russian that softswiss has checked my gameplay and confirmed was 100% fraud? And now you are saying that soft Swiss expert are investigating.

As I stated previously i have not issues for third parties to check my gameplay because i did not cheat and even less used a software. You are saying that i made not pause but i did and the game play will show if softswiss is honest they will realize that and confirm it.  Casino guru and wadzan checked , ok you have your issues with wadzan but why casino guru would have to lie??
Regarding the bugs and vulnerabilities this i out of my hands i don't honestly even truly understand what that implies as i don't understand much of IT.

Regarding the fact i have made complaints in forums about some casinos that exploit players this is not being a scammer but a player that feel the casino has taken advantage. I asked your chat operator to close my account as i couldn't stop playing and you chat operator was rude and brutal and simply told me no, and to just don't play. That's why i put the first 3 accounts in time out. Haven't u checked?? Please check and you might realised you simply dealing with someone that asked for help and have his account close and your site refused. That's why out of frustration i made a formal complaint to your support site and told them if my account wouldn't be closed and my money refunded i would have reported you to the UKGC.  That happened only when you casino clearly exploit vulnerable  players and your ceo brags in forums that his casino respect problems gamblers.

Regarding me using one slot i have nothing to defend , this slot is actually really cool and the fact that i actually won a jackpot at the beginning made me play over and over in hope i would win again.  You can make as many assumptions as you like but you must consider that lots of players will come to site like yours from UK because they have banned themselves at gamstop , and unfortunately when we fail ourselves again we are left with unlicensed casino that exploit players like yours.
i am not here to look for pity as i have none for me, i failed myself once again after a very long period without playing. Unfortunately gambling is a  symptom  that hides bigger problems and i have used gambling as coping mechanism for many years.  In january somethig really bad happens to my mum and i gamble continuously to numb the pain. I have asked your casino to close my account as i couldn't stop. YOU REFUSED!!! You were happy to take my money , money made out of pain and tears. You knew i was a problem gambler, you refuse to block me even tough you received my formal complaint and though i was a scammer?

So you let me play and then planned to take my money if i ever was going to win? Is this honest? Does your casino who promotes fairness have any integrity at all?

By the way the volatility of the game was not at the lowest but i had two chilies when i won the jackpot which is not a progressive jackpot  and the reason i have won the biggest is because i was playing max bet.
Funnily enough i discovered in this forum that the chillies on the slot was not the speed of the spin. That's how big of an hacker i am !! ( sarcasm)

In closing , i truly hope once softwiss ends the investigation and not foul play will find on my side  if they are honest  they will see it as the other two party did. I am confident they won't because i didn't.

I have won honestly and i should be paid and i truly hope you keep your promise and pay the winnings at once since you have dragged this case to the max and caused me a proper breakdown. i am not sleeping anymore , not eating and I'm obsessed to find justice. If i was a scammer i would have moved on and use this amazing skills you think i have.



Here below the video made by Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev in TTR Channel in telegram. It is in Russian but someone translated this for me in another forum. Why would he lie and said that softswiss made the checks and im 100% fraud?  If thy did they can share and prove it tough , words are worth nothing without evidence.




I truly hope the matter will end soon and justice will be done.






Here is the  video and  the translation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGsL7jAt-qM&feature=emb_logo

He talks about a lot of things that are unrelated to OP's cases. The main points are as follows:

1. He would have had no problem paying out this amount if the win had been legitimate - this amount is peanuts.

2. The reason for no-payment is that a new player,  started playing at their casino using a bunch of VPNs and multiple accounts, around 7 or 8.

3. The player was playing only one slot game

4. He lost around 5-10K EUR from the first three registered accounts (he does not remember exactly how much)

5. Following this loss, the player began blackmailing them and threatening to sue them, claiming to be from the UKGC..

6. Following that, the player created more accounts, and from the last account, with a balance of 10 Litecoins, the player won three jackpots at 3000x each in a row from 13,000 spins.

7. The thing about this slot game is that it has a range of volatility levels ranging from low to super high.

8. According to the player's game history, he was only using the lowest volatility setting when he won the jackpot, however, the jackpot is only available when using the highest volatility setting.

9. They closed his account and forwarded it to the game provider (Wazdan) for verification.

10. After nearly a month of waiting, the provider responded that everything is OK, but without providing any proper piece of information.

11. They then created a straight to the point list of questions and sent it to Wazdan once more.

12. They ended up sending the same list to Wazdan, but they never replied fuck all... Yes exactly like that!

13. They had had enough and sent a request to the company from which they connect games (Softswiss).

14. Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside.

15. He then says that they discovered a similar case with Wazdan on AskGamblers, in which a player won a massive multiplier and Wazdan initially refused to admit that the game had a bug, but later admitted.

16. When he compared his situation to theirs, he realised that it was very similar because Wazdan was unable to answer some of their questions.

17. The player appears to be from the UK, and his standard practice is to register at unlicensed casinos and then file complaints and blackmail, among other things, after losing money.

18. After the player was informed that he would not be receiving the money, TTR began receiving messages from various gaming (fake) commissions as well as DDOS attacks.

19. He personally believes that Wazdan has a vulnerability in the game and that the entire situation is typical of crypto casino scammers, as there are many similar topics on Bitcointalk.

let me understand:

wazdan has already confirmed that the game has no issues. but you insisted that wazdan is lying, but you did not provide proof that they are lying. Now you've got another gambling company to look into the OP case? but this company you got is a competitor of wazdan, who guarantees that this new company will be impartial in the investigation? this new company can say that the OP game had a bug to destroy wazdan's reputation, you who got them, who guarantees you didn't tell them to put up false proof so that this whole case turns in your favor?

you disappeared for a long time, and then you come back with this new company?

Did u see what the ceo of ltc casino said in TTR CASINO telegram chat? Apparently accordingly to  Andrey “TTR” Nikolaev  : ". Softswiss specialists examined the player's gaming history and concluded that it is 100% fraud, and the player should be banned, and they will check Wazdan further. And asked them (the LTC casino) to stay aside"

This is a translation of part of the chat he made in Russian and translated for me in another forum. above i pu the video and the transslation.

Ltc  ceo brags in Russian that softswiss checked my game history and concluded i am  a fraud 100% , which unless is another lies of this andrey TTR, the fraud is softswiss if they say i am the fraud because first i didn't cheat and wadzan and casino guru checked my gameplay so it is clear softswiss lied, unless this is pure fabrication of LTC ceo Andrej.

Also if he makes such a statement where is the proves and softswiss statement?
LTC ceo states publicly in his video that he believes wadzan slot has vulnerabilities. Again he says he believes but not evidence given , yet is almost 3 months that they struggle to find a shred of evidenceand   that they took my money!!! after all this absence they haven't come back with any evidence , same story , accusations and not proves.

After all this time is impossible that they can't come back with one single evidence. Also what sort of relationship softswiss has with ltc casino? There is no way they will find the use of a software from me, zero chance and two parties confirmed that, if they want to throw mud to another provider is none of my business but they aren't going to lie about me.

I will try and contact softswiss if is true that they checked my game history and if is true they said i am a fraud. After ltc casino dealt with wadzan i take everything from a pinch of salt  from this people.

All  hear are excuses one after another just to justify the theft of my money, and yes this is theft as they took the money without real evidence but only a set of believes that casino holds and probably they do not believe players should get paid.
Shame on them!

I didn't see the video, I don't trust them. Anyway, if you have the video where the CEO shows his Face, if you have the CEO's full name and the CEO's nationality, then you can report your case to your country's police, I believe your country's police can get in touch with interpol to do more research on this casino and arrest the scammer or at least take him to court and make him pay you, do it while they are left with these pointless arguments, don't wait for their investigation, these guys are not trustworthy, trust the police and courts only, because they are the only ones who can solve your case

3 post ups with the translation from Russian to English.
He made his video in Russian probably for making believe  his Russian followers  that is not a liar.
There is plenty of infos of this guy on the net, again ltc casino says one thing but still not paying after almost 3 months so called investigations.


it's all unreal!!

Firstly, SoftSwiss is a “Game Aggregator” provider, offering white-label and other solutions to online casinos. Many online casinos are powered by SoftSwiss, including some reputable casino brands visible in this forum. (And some less reputable ones.)

Now, if it is true that the SoftSwiss representative commented on this case, it’s adding another dimension to this whole case, as they have Wazdan in their standard offer. Those two things contradict each other.

Will they pull out Wazdan provider from their portfolio of game selections, in the case, they “find out” that their slots are full of bugs? All online casinos powered by SoftSwiss will drop Wazdan games?

I would highly recommend you ask for the official statement from SoftSwiss as this whole case can damage their reputation as well.

Regarding this reply, I wouldn't even comment on those.

I have sent few emails to some softswiss email contact and ask them to pass my email to the ceo of softswiss  as this TTR ( LTC owner) stated in his video that an expert of softswiss checked my gameplay and thwy said i was 100% fraud, yet today ltc rep says that softSwiss are still investigating and did not mentioned that softswiss checked my gameplay an surely if they did ltc casino would have shared the statement as they did when they had the Felix case.

I am trying to get the contact email of Ivan Montik the ceo of softswiss as unfortunately i do not trust a word of ltc casino reps since they have lied about many things so far.

I also have casino guru statement who actually checked my gameplay and they checked it over and over and they confirmed i had breaks and use different bet sizes and volatilities and they comfirmed i had healthy breaks.
Wadzan checked it too, but i guess Ltc casino was not satisfied with two different third parties and decided to call scammer as well the game provider beside me.

LTC casino said i was playing with lowest volatilities but in my jackpot winning screenshot  I'm using the middle level , which funnily enough i thought was the speed.
They still using the excuse of me opening 4 accounts but they fail to admit is that they refuse to close my accounts when i asked them to close it as i couldn't stop it and i had to put my account in time out. Hint i open 4 accounts as the previous 3 were put in time out out of desperation.
 
ITt   was all happy days till i was making so many deposits, only after over well 15k and a massive win they decided  to block my account ( so they could close someone account if they wanted to)!!!

I know they will never pay me, it's almost 3 months now, they failed to provide evidence against me and to actually prove wadzan slots have bugs. Lots of accusations against everyone but not sign of taking accountability of their actions.

It will be interesting to know what softswiss has to say , if what ltc casino said is true and if they will be impartial. I did not cheat so if they lie about my game play ltc casino should share my gameplay publicly and get some impartial party to check it.

I am fearless as i know where i am standing , the problem i have been dealing with such shady people who still keep accusing me with not evidence after almost 3 months!!!
They disappear for almost a month and came back with the same story.. unbelievable.

If anyone has a contact of  Ivan Montik and could send it to me via private message i would really appreciate, i might not get paid at end but  i will make sure this horror story will be shared everywhere.


Regarding  the other accusations are laughable and at first they said the felix case made the casino lose 50000 and now is hundreds of thousands.  Next post will be millions. They can't even keep track of what they write in other posts.
Also they fail to say that accordingly to their own post the cheating player started with 300 dodge. I actually spent well over 15k of British pounds in litecoins.  They literally believe is impossible to win unless you cheat!!!
And this says it all!

You are wrong. Wazdan DID NOT provide any confirmations of fairness of the winnings excepting words. They STILL DID NOT answer our questions, they just said "possibility to win those jackpots is XXX, so nothing wrong".


They are not competitors. SoftSwiss is a big partner of Wazdan and they are interested in getting truth.


No. We work since 2017 and paid even much bigger ammounts many times. As I said before we will pay this winning either if it was fair. But now there is no any proof of it's fairness and we are going to wait for the investigation results.

What makes you trust SoftSwiss while you don't trust Wazdan? Is that because Wazdan didn't rule in your favour, and told you to pay the player?

That's not how any of this works. You're supposed to know up front that the games you offer are fair. You don't need to prove that. If anything, you'd need to prove it's not fair, but you can't prove that. So what you meant to say is: "But now there is no proof that it's not fair". In other words: pay the player.

That's OK. Liars are usually like that. They tell a lie, then they tell another lie and so on. And that's how you should be branded, as liars. You lied about making the data public and you didn't. After that you lied that you would send the data to an admin, have you done that? Of course not. LoyceV has already shown his interest in looking at the data of the player and he has plenty of experience with that. But you are not going to send it, are you?

Your suspicions don't matter. You haven't been able to prove any of it.

Prove it. I have asked you many times. Post the proof and show the world how the player has cheated. When we are talking about suspicions, I suspect you are lying piece of shit based on your conduct so far. My suspicions outweigh yours because you haven't been able to prove anything you have said in those monologues of yours.

Really? Show it!

What if your Belarusian brother company SoftSwiss doesn't rule in your favor, what's the next step? Maybe the casino owner's aunt and uncle can act as the neutral party.

Actually, they are trying to find someone who will say a single word in favour of them. But all of the middleman who involved themselves to resolve the issue has stand against their scam behaviour. As a result they don't trust anyone :D. SoftSwiss team won't support their scam too.

Wazdan has made partnership with SoftSwiss to grow their business quickly. SoftSwiss works as a medium to make the Wazdan game available at those casinos where the casino team purchase SoftSwiss services. Anyway, there is no reason to trust LTC Casino. SoftSwiss can only work as a middleman in this case to short out the issue. Perhaps, SoftSwiss won't be able to resolve the issue as LTC Casino team members are liar. Wazdan team has shared the truth here, they also shared it with the casino guru team who was working as a middleman to resolve the issue before. LTC Casino doesn't care about anyone and they are trying to make us believe on their statement without providing any proof.

SoftSwiss is a big operator. They will never support the scam behaviour of LTC Casino. LTC Casino team members are trying to make the process long to scam more people in the meantime.

Thank you for posting in this thread with a detailed response but sadly it does not clarify basic fundamentals.

I think the issue here is with the action and inaction on your part. Let us say for a moment the OP has been exploiting a vulnerability in the game... the question arises why did you not pull the game since there was already a well known exploit out there according to your own comments? By allowing members to play a game that you knew had vulnerabilities shows you enticed them to play therefore you have to honour any winnings.

If the member was not aware of any vulnerabilities and did not exploit any vulnerabilities and simply "won" then you have no case against him because just suspecting him of foul-play on a game that you yourself made available on your website even though you knew it could be exploited is a pointless case to make.

Do not wait for SoftSwiss to get back to you with results after an investigation because Wazdan have already given their views. I would advise you to try to find a mutually acceptable solution with the OP.

I cannot speak for others but I think the best course of action now would be to engage privately with the OP and agree terms of payout. If the OP accepts an amount of less than 1496 LTC or wants his full 1496 LTC on the basis he kindly requests those that left negative tags on your account to remove them and at the same time you do not accept liability but the payment details are kept hidden from the public chat - then that outcome could suit both yourself and the OP.

Today LTC is trading at just $81 (x1496 = $121,000) but at the time they incidents took place LTC was worth substantially more. I hope you can negotiate a way out of this with the victim to find a solution that both of you find acceptable.

I had never heard of your casino before therefore I took a look. There are no ownership LTD/LLC details are listed, terms and conditions are as vague as can be... no company or personal name or address, nothing... but having said that scam allegations have not been made against your casino to my knowledge. You still have plenty of time to regain lost reputation therefore I hope you engage with the OP as soon as possible to resolve this.

Thanks for your comment. To be frank I honestly believe this people will never pay and probably would accuse softswiss of conjuring against them if softswiss investigation will turn up to be impartial and honest.
I have been feeling like I have been screaming in deaf ears for almost 3 months, not matter how much evidence one provides the casino keeps take time and not providing any evidence.
Beside the obvious theft the mental damage this casino has caused me can't be valued.
It is extremely hard to fight emotions when you know you have not cheated and the truth is out there and they keep lying against all the evidences.

Ltc casino should share my gameplay with bitcoitalk casino admin as that would be a real impartial third party.  They said they would have and again lied and did not delivered the promises.

@ltccasino  why don't you share my gameplay if you are so sure i have cheated? You don't because you know i haven't !!

IF I was the scammer i would fear the sharing of my gameplay, but i don't because i know i had breaks and my gameplay pattern will straightway prove that the use of a software was just unfounded accusation to don't pay me.

I am not longer the accused but iam the accuser because i was a victim of theft.
It is your time to prove the evidence that you are not another unlicensed casino that scam players and exploit them.
Many accusation on the net feed the narrative against your predatory ways of exploiting players, but i am here to fight for the money i have won honestly, for your predatory ways there will be karma ,because life will punish all the evils.

I want not pity, i want my won money and will not rest till you pay me.

You are wrong. Of cource we have removed ALL games of this provider right after we got first suspicions.

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It is you that is wrong. Read the post I made in context as a response to what you actually wrote.


The questions arise:

1) At which specific date did you first get suspicious?

2) At which specific date did you remove all Felix games?

3) If the official letter from Felix is dated 26th January 2022 yet the OP first deposited and first won funds before that letter was even published, why are you mentioning the Felix vulnerability? At which specific date did you seize the funds owed to the OP?

Ltc casino kindly share my gameplay with the admin of bitcointalk as promised by you previously.

The truth is there, and people can see i took breaks and also when i have won i did not play at night both nights.
You make it sound like i played night and day without ever stopping and is not true.

hopefully softswiss will be impartial and can prove you wrong.
 

My advice to OP keep your messages short since it's same things you post nobody will read everything...
Post less with short messages. Or 1 message long better than 10 long messages.

I'm not blaming you as we talk about 100k$ plus
But people who follows the post I doubt they have time to read like 10 long messages a day.
I'm in your side btw.

I think you should wait for short while before asking them to share because they are waiting for a reply from Softswiss. LTC Casino have stated they will release the funds to you if Softswiss are unable to prove you cheated the game. They already dismissed what Wazdan had concluded but they said they will adhere to the Softswiss findings. Let that situation conclude before proceeding further.

What is the largest payout your casino has made? Was it made without issues where the winner was accused of fraud before being found innocent and having the funds returned?

How many other winners have had their funds seized and not returned to them as a result of your claims of cheating?

Do you know that Wazdan and Felix are different providers? Felix was returned to the casino after they confirmed their fault. Wazdan was removed right after OP won his jackpots.

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Not any. Not counting that proved Felix gaming cheater (here is a thread on the forum.

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Not sure about the largest but I remember at least several 100-150k euros winnings last year. No any problems, they were withdrawn according to the limits successfully.

That's not how it works.  The game isn't provably fair.   You pay unless there is proof the player somehow cheated.  There is no proof.  The provider investigated, they said there's no evidence of cheating.  It's been months.  Times up.  Look what you've done to your reputation.  Honestly I'm surprised you're still trying.  If you want any hope of fixing your mistakes, you need to pay the player immediately.  Even if there's a 95% chance the player cheated, you still need to pay them.  Otherwise you send the message this could happen to anyone, and think about how fucked up what you're doing is if you're wrong and the player is innocent.

By the way, Wazden is offered at several sites that offer instant cash outs.  As in, I could go hit the jackpot on the same game, for the same amount, and have the funds in my wallet in minutes.  Think about that.