Do you prefer lots of promotions over better RTP?

[yayayo]

Honestly it depends on the player whether he likes better RTP or good promotion but in reality both is important for casino and gambling site since with promotion it would let them attract new players and let the existing players to still play in their website while the RTP most of the casinos site have almost the same RTP so I think it is even in this category.

ya.ya.yo!

[ralle14]

The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.

Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.

It depends on the RTP of the platform but if you have a number of spins bonuses when deposit I guess there's a higher chance to get a profit like with the bonuses when you hit a good jackpot this is just my personal preference because I do not totally fan with the slot games and base on my experience RTP is just a small percentage but imagine having 30+ bonus spin that might get profitable if you have a good spins.

I agree those 20-30 free spin rewards you can earn from certain promotions are nice even though they're a hit or miss at times since you could get unlucky and get a bunch of dead spins but at the same time, you could get lucky and hit something decent. But on average i've been getting half of the total value of the free spins so it still provides a nice bump to my bankroll.

[rojan]

One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.  

The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.

Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?

Let's discuss...  

Of course there will always be a better RTP for the player than money on marketing. I get pissed off when a casino spends a lot of money on marketing, because I know some of my money is also going to that. I think it is logical that the more they spend on marketing, the more they have to increase the percentage for themselves. Fortunately, there are already so many casinos on the market that there is plenty to choose from.

What we're trying to convey here is that what we're aiming for is a business for casinos and what the business market has to spend here, and that our gamblers are endangering business costs for customers and a certain percentage of each budget to stay away from certain player sites.  They spend a lot of money, but from here they force their site

[mak013]

I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

[maydna]

The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.

Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.

You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

[dothebeats]

Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving. 

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

[arwin100]

The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.

Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.

You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.

[Peanutswar]

Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving. 

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

It is a good marketing strategy for the new website which makes it more attractive to the new gamblers to their platform so they can enjoy the RTP and other uses with the use of the bonuses which is ideal to use too those are both a marketing strategy that will gain profit but again it's all about the risk of the player to deal with it. Base in my experience I win mostly with the free spins bonuses than having with the RTP because its uses a large amount to become part of the leaderboard to gain the RTP.

[Kakmakr]

Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving. 

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

Well, the newbies just boost their game play time with the bonuses, but they are not the gamblers that are bringing in the real money. The profit for the casinos come with the highrollers and that is why most promotions and challenges are geared towards giving back to highrollers to keep them gambling.

The thing is... even the highrollers wants value for their money ....so a favorable RTP will also benefit them. A lot of the casinos are just greedy and they forget the basics, because they are too focused on aggressive marketing.  

[ultrloa]

Well, for me the point (essence) of promotions is for the casino to promote themselves to get more "new" gamblers to join the casino. Some of the promotions are there to get existing gamblers to gamble more. (Races/Championships/Tournaments/Challenges)

So, if the RTP is too high to pay for all of this, you will get new people to gamble and your existing gamblers will eventually get frustrated and they will leave. It turns into a cycle that will eventually "kill" the casino... because you will not keep the doors open, if "new blood" does not join the casino and the old gamblers leaving. 

Right. There needs to be an equal stress on the importance of promotion and RTP. But ultimately, RTP is what carries a platform's profits in the long run. If not for RTP, casino player base might see a steep drop as time progresses. Newbies are only there for the bonuses. Once that runs out, they also hop in to another casino for the bonuses. If you can give them an incentive to stay and play for long, they'll do that on themselves and they would need not the insistence of the platform.

Well, the newbies just boost their game play time with the bonuses, but they are not the gamblers that are bringing in the real money. The profit for the casinos come with the highrollers and that is why most promotions and challenges are geared towards giving back to highrollers to keep them gambling.

The thing is... even the highrollers wants value for their money ....so a favorable RTP will also benefit them. A lot of the casinos are just greedy and they forget the basics, because they are too focused on aggressive marketing.  

Because right now some people ask about more promotion than having this RTP and maybe those casinos are just following how their market dictate since if you notice once they launch their new business here the one following ask by some people is if there's promotion will run on their launch and other things which related on that matter. RTP will just set aside and newbie doesn't even recognize its importance maybe they are low baller and doesn't care about that but whales for sure enjoy to have this since this will give them better benefits upon playing.

[maydna]

The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.

Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.

You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.

With RTP, casinos can allow gamblers to try their luck, but I'm not sure if the promotion from the casino will end because promotion is a tool to develop the casino to be bigger. As long as the casino can provide the best service for its customers, users will not switch to another casino but will use the platform to continue playing gambling. Although users may try other gambling sites, in the end, those users will return to the original casino because he has found comfort in that casino.

[Eric.miller]

I honestly prefer lots of promos over rtp lol

[Lanatsa]

The promotions they do will also certainly be able to attract more people who will play on their site. It is hoped that with the right promotion, the profits of a site can increase.

Not only does it attract more people but it also encourages their existing players to continue playing. Even if it's only a classic wagering competition there's still a significant increase in wagering activity.

You are right. Therefore, these gambling sites continue to focus on promotions to attract more people, especially if they can provide promotions that attract people and big players. If they can get a lot of big players, that means the gambling site's profits can also be more than before. And providing lots of gambling games will make gambling players feel more comfortable playing on their site.

Because this is what people expect to see on casinos since many believe thay having a good promotion can make people stay on their platform or rather  make people stay on what they offer to their gamblers. But as @dothebeats say better RTP is more good to have since this will make the gambler stay since casino will became boring once those promotional stuff ends and for sure if gambler will not see anything like this exist they flee and go to other platform who offers again some nice promotions to them.

With RTP, casinos can allow gamblers to try their luck, but I'm not sure if the promotion from the casino will end because promotion is a tool to develop the casino to be bigger. As long as the casino can provide the best service for its customers, users will not switch to another casino but will use the platform to continue playing gambling. Although users may try other gambling sites, in the end, those users will return to the original casino because he has found comfort in that casino.

As a gambler then i do really have  this kind of behavior on which i do really search off on new gambling sites which i do hope that it would be having much better compared on the current/recent site that ive been playing

with and if i do see that it isnt really that much interesting or doesnt find something revolutionary then i would just simply switch back and continue to stay on where i do prefer to play and this is where
most people do really act out.We do stay on place which we do seem that give us some good experience and being comfortable despite of the high chance or risk of losing money.

[tabas]

I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

[DoublerHunter]

I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.

[tabas]

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.

Yes, that's for sure because they have to be known first before they focused on the RTP. When they've got that much customers and maybe have seen the loyal ones.
They're now going to get into a higher RTP so that those loyal customers to them will stay. But as starting, it's true that they need to get a lot of attention through promotions.

[Findingnemo]

If we talk about the majority of people we know that people care more about the promotions and money they can get for free than actual RTP even many people know there is such term exists in the casino which decides their favour of winning a bet. I prefer the better gambling experience overall and don't give much importance to the promotions at anyday but the fact is not many people has the same mindset as myself.

[mindrust]

One of the casinos where I gamble have gone totally overboard with their marketing campaigns. They are spending millions of dollars on marketing and to fund this, they introduced several projects to increase traffic to their site. Now, I am not going to say which site it is.... but I guess a lot of people play there.  

The site is great ....but the gambling experience has deteriorated... because the RTP has been nerf'ed to hell and gone to pay for these projects.

Now my question is this... do you prefer that a casino offer loads of promotions and campaigns and sponsorships and sacrifice RTP in favor of that.... or will you rather have a decent gambling experience with a better RTP?

Let's discuss...  

I think both are needed. Even those perfect casinos are going heavy on promotions and marketing campaigns. If you have a good product but nobody knows about its existence, what good is it? Good products may sell itself but promotions and marketing campaigns multiply those sells by 10 or 100. Marketing&Promotions usually are the most important thing when you are selling a service/product. Almost as important as the product itself. Sometimes even more important.

[maydna]

As a gambler then i do really have  this kind of behavior on which i do really search off on new gambling sites which i do hope that it would be having much better compared on the current/recent site that ive been playing

with and if i do see that it isnt really that much interesting or doesnt find something revolutionary then i would just simply switch back and continue to stay on where i do prefer to play and this is where
most people do really act out.We do stay on place which we do seem that give us some good experience and being comfortable despite of the high chance or risk of losing money.

It will be okay if you are looking for a new gambling site to compare their services, and I think it is also necessary to do so that we can get a gambling site that can make us comfortable while playing gambling. And usually, every gambling site will always provide good promotions every day or week, which can attract more gamblers to come to their site. I can only give advice not to spend too much money if it is to test the new site because we don't know how they will go through the process. We really need to know if their site is safe and can be our next gamble.

[mak013]

I think that high RTP decreases the quantity and quality of the promotions. The casino gets less money to spend it for promotion. Of course if this is an honest casino with truthful information. And what to choose everyone decide by himself. As for me - the promotions can be more useful to the ordinary gambler - the chances to win decreases, but it is possible that promotions will bring him more money. I`m choosing promotions.

Well, I'm in both of them. There's the beneficial part for the gamblers if there are more promotions and as well as RTP. But balancing it depends on the casino where you're playing and what they're looking at.
If they have become aggressive in their marketing and promotions then you have to understand what they're up to. As long as the gambling experience never changes, there's no need to jump elsewhere.

^ Probably a low-budget casino will for sure consider first the promotions especially for those gambling casinos that have been recently started or those did not yet have decent users. After they will benefit from their promotions it could be the RTP will follow and most usually we see it here, promotions first, and then when it is effective they will have a high RTP to maintain their user stay on the site.
However, there are gambling casino that most generous giving promotions and RTP, probably because this also have a high return to them when the more users have the more profit will come.

This is possible situation that some casinos increases the RTP after they attract gamblers attention, but mostly they don`t need to change anything i think. They have gamblers, who got promotion and don`t want to change casino for 1-2% of RTP. And the situation with high promotions and RTP the same time is possible for large casinos or new casinos with big money that the owners ready to spent in marketing. These casinos may get nice profit, but the first time they need money to start.