PRIMEDICE weak self-exclusion system

[bitterguy28]

The problem is not the PrimeDice, the problem is within you. If you really want to stop gambling you should help yourself not to play again or seek professional if you really can't control it and upon checking the PrimeDice policy about Self-exclusion here's what I found:

You should not attempt or proceed to open any new accounts during your self-exclusion period, or indefinitely if a permanent self-exclusion has been selected.

This is actually a personal kind of problem and not on Primedice.It is really very common for someone who do have addiction problems on pointing out their fingers into the house that they do have bad exclusion

system or other things which they could blame them off specially if they had lost big or huge amount of money.They had requested it, so it would really be just be part of yourself on having that control

on not to play even more or further because if you do then there's no other to be blamed off but only yourself and not the company or sites or platform.

You are both correct that the blame must be for OP in this because it is His obligation to control himself or never let to become addicted  but what OP is pointing is that the Feature of Self Exclusion in each gambling site in which I believe that the site will comply. as the players will not use this feature if he is still capable of stopping, in this matter it is that the player is completely powerless to stop and asking the site for help for at least block his IP address at all cost so he will never had any chance of playing in that specific site though he can use VPN but at least this is on his own risk.

[Chikito]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

what is working best for me now is to reduce or hinder access to my funds, at some point I will try to put together a post with tips to help others with the same problem

If you blocked your funds, not only casino but you can't also live. How can you eat and buy drinks if you can't access the funds?.
I'm not sure how you create tips and points when you can't keep the money from gambling itself?. for sure if you want to reduce gambling-addicted just try my suggestion before or try to get rehabilitation like an alcoholic.

Trying to create another account is also abuse and breaking the casino rules, I've believe it will make you more curious to try the casino again.

[michellee]

I wonder if @OP always plays with big money on that site or other gambling sites? If yes, then @OP needs to change his gambling habits because a site is not very responsible for what its members do in gambling. If their members play with big money, it is their responsibility and if their members lose, they can't ask anything from the casino, even for blocking their account. Casinos can block gambler's accounts who use big money, but if he still can't change the way he plays, it won't help him prevent bigger losses.

[davis196]

Asking a casino to improve it's self-exclusion system is the same as asking an alcohol/tobacco store to stop selling alcohol and tobacco to people,who are addicted to drinking and smoking.It simply doesn't work.
Even if the Primedice self-exclusion system is way better,what can stop you from betting on another crypto casino?There are hundreds of crypto casinos out there.Can you self-exclude yourself from all of them?
Have you ever tried to seek professional help about your gambling problem?
The forum members here can you give you advise about your problem,but it's up to you to find a way to control yourself and your behavior.

[dothebeats]

They should really enforce their self-exclusion rule, else more and more people like OP would be losing their sanity and money due to gambling addiction. The thing is, most platforms don't really enforce this rule seriously, because they will still profit if people lose money on their site. Also, there aren't any repercussions too, on their end, that's why they can run away with these things. They'll continue doing this over and over again until they can, so unless and until they are punished for continuously breaking this self-exclusion thing that should be active on all platforms.

[dimonstration]

They should really enforce their self-exclusion rule, else more and more people like OP would be losing their sanity and money due to gambling addiction. The thing is, most platforms don't really enforce this rule seriously, because they will still profit if people lose money on their site. Also, there aren't any repercussions too, on their end, that's why they can run away with these things. They'll continue doing this over and over again until they can, so unless and until they are punished for continuously breaking this self-exclusion thing that should be active on all platforms.

This is same scenario with cigarette and alcoholic beverages business. This products can make person health deteriorate overtime yet the government around the world keeps allowing manufacturer to produce and sell this product to the people no matter what is the condition of person buying it except for minors. Applying same logic with this case. This will still go back on square that we should be responsible to our self and don't blame the product or services that we are choosing because its personal choice. There's a lot of warnings when you read ToS and signing up means you agree on it. I agree to strongly reinforce on there self exclusion security but this problem will never end and there will be same case like this will arise in the future because we can't control someone else decision.

[btc78]

They should really enforce their self-exclusion rule, else more and more people like OP would be losing their sanity and money due to gambling addiction. The thing is, most platforms don't really enforce this rule seriously, because they will still profit if people lose money on their site. Also, there aren't any repercussions too, on their end, that's why they can run away with these things. They'll continue doing this over and over again until they can, so unless and until they are punished for continuously breaking this self-exclusion thing that should be active on all platforms.

and also? if they can really enforce the self inclusion then they must take it off from their feature because some gamblers relies in this as they Knew once they have big troubles in gambling then the site will take over and will help them out for a while.

But this act from both party should be a eye opener for every gambler to know your limits or will end up like what OP had now.

[xSkylarx]

I am new to the self-exclusion system, and I had no idea that we could use it to be forced to stop us from playing. However, with this system, it is extremely easy to circumvent if we are truly eager to play. I know some of us will say it is useful, but it isn't permanent because you will be unbanned later on, so the best and most permanent solution to this is within yourself; you must exercise self-control or seek assistance from others if this is having a negative impact on your life.

[kotajikikox]

Both are to be blamed here ,

OP because he is addicted and trying to Blame the casino for not excluding Him when the very thing is He must not play at all.

the Site because they did not implement their option of excluding their Player once they are being asked.

The lesson learn here? is not to gamble if you cannot control your self from betting .

[VanityWallets2015]

What are the things can the PrimeDice improve aside from banning IP that is related to the account? I think self-exclusion is not enough for OP if you can waste that much money for gambling why not use it to pay for professionals who can help you overcome your addiction to gambling?

[traderethereum]

Yes, Primedice allows you to create a new account and use it to gamble again but unfortunately, the result is lost.
But what if you win? Does Primedice allow you to withdraw your win money? They will check on your account first before they process your withdrawal because it can break their TOS by having multiple accounts.
I think Primedice can warn you about becoming a responsible gambler but all things will be back to you as a gambler.
If you are already betting for a long time, you should know that you need to limit yourself, prevent big losses, and not allow yourself to deposit more money or use the money you can afford.
You should have self-control while playing gambling.

[Reatim]

I wonder if @OP always plays with big money on that site or other gambling sites? If yes, then @OP needs to change his gambling habits because a site is not very responsible for what its members do in gambling. If their members play with big money, it is their responsibility and if their members lose, they can't ask anything from the casino, even for blocking their account. Casinos can block gambler's accounts who use big money, but if he still can't change the way he plays, it won't help him prevent bigger losses.

Mate , if you come to read the whole topic this is about OP is seeking for Self Exclusion meaning he has no capacity in stopping or controlling His gambling activities that is why this problem occurs and this is the reason why this post was created.
while We trust primedice as one of the oldest and trust worthy site(of course same as Stake.com) yet cases like this will always come because of the addiction and because of the casino site's behavior towards same incident .

[yayayo]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

[Crypto Library]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

I don't think he can self-exclusion by doing these, I think if he really wants to get rid of these then he should get out of this sector, he can invest in any other sector he can invest in trading, I think at least trading risks is less than gambling .However, there is a saying that you should invest as much as you are willing to lose.

[acroman08]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

I don't think he can self-exclusion by doing these, I think if he really wants to get rid of these then he should get out of this sector, he can invest in any other sector he can invest in trading, I think at least trading risks is less than gambling .However, there is a saying that you should invest as much as you are willing to lose.

this could lead to another addiction. the best thing the OP can do is rehabilitate. he knows and acknowledges that he has a problem, now what he needs is proper help

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@OP since you recognize that you have a problem, are you planning on acting upon it? I mean, getting professional help since doing it on your own didn't work quite well.

[Cling18]

of course the problem is with me, that's why it's called a gambling problem, in any case, the idea is not to accuse anyone, but to see the possibility of improving the self-exclusion system

maybe you can reduce your addiction by playing casinos using not real money like a demo or game from android. I'm not so sure you can either, but no harm to trying than your money runs out. it's just a matter of fun, If you continue and keep it fun, you will get used to it after a while.

I don't think he can self-exclusion by doing these, I think if he really wants to get rid of these then he should get out of this sector, he can invest in any other sector he can invest in trading, I think at least trading risks is less than gambling .However, there is a saying that you should invest as much as you are willing to lose.

If he really wants to be excluded permanently then he shouldn't change his mind later on. He must be firm in making decisions especially if a certain site is involved. Trading will always be risky so we should always be sure of what we want. If he was well decided on self exclusion then he shouldn't left his funds on Primedice.

[qwertyup23]

This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Greetings to everybody and thanks

Before I begin, I would like to express my deepest regrets from your very unfortunate situation. While I do understand the conflict and difficulty of addressing your addiction, what you did is the first step towards your recovery. Since you already did the first step, which is to acknowledge and do something about your addiction, relapses are nothing but normal situations for a person undergoing such recovery.

With regard your issue, unfortunately, I doubt that gambling websites would do such a move. While there may be gambling websites that advocate in battling against addiction, they would never create a system where they would IP block a certain ISP as this would cost them tons of money. Again remember that these are businesses which aim to earn as much profit as possible.

[traderethereum]

You should have self-control while playing gambling.

It's not easy to say and do it if ytu are addicted to gambling since you don't have self control seeking professional psychiatrist would be a big help in my opinion and I agree with the OP I think all gambling site not just Primedice should strengthen their self-exclusion system since if it is strong enough the OP wouldn't be able to create an account easily and play again in Primedice.

ya.ya.yo!

That's the problem. Without good self-control, someone will come back and create a new account if he can't log in to the site, deposit more money, and play again.
Maybe Primedice can block IP or anything related to @OP so @OP can't create a new account just to gamble.
It could be done but without @OP's self-control, it would be pointless.
@OP will try again and he will even try on other sites.
If this is the case, which is to blame?

[wxa7115]

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Unfortunately this is not really a good idea, many people are sharing an IP so if they were to ban you they will need to ban all the people that may use the same IP, also your IP changes so not only they will need to ban an IP but a range of them and this is even more unfeasible.

Personally I do not see anything wrong with primedice self-exclusion measures, if you tried to log into your original account and you were still self-excluded then everything is working as intended, also I can assure you that if you tried this in a fiat casino you would have run into the same problem, and even if you did not you could have used another casino to gamble, so look for help and stay away from gambling as much as you can as you obviously have some issues with it.

[Slow death]

Well, first I have to congratulate you because you admit your mistakes. the measures they could take in this situation I think they already do a lot, it would not be feasible or easy for them to be controlling all addicted customers, I agree that addicted customers need to block emails from casinos and also need to be strong and resist , do not give in and play and then come to complain here on the forum.

Hello, I have been betting for a long time, and a few months ago I realized that I have problems to stop doing it.

I decided that the best way to stop was to request self-exclusion from the sites I was betting on.

I got to self-exclude myself from primedice, the problem is that after a while, I relapsed and wanted to bet again, and primedice let me create a new account, and bet again. this time, i lost 21600 xrp and a bit of some other coins




This post is not to recover my coins, (although I would like that), but to see the possibility that the sites begin to block not only the accounts, but also the IPs from which those accounts were connected.

Unfortunately this is not really a good idea, many people are sharing an IP so if they were to ban you they will need to ban all the people that may use the same IP, also your IP changes so not only they will need to ban an IP but a range of them and this is even more unfeasible.

Personally I do not see anything wrong with primedice self-exclusion measures, if you tried to log into your original account and you were still self-excluded then everything is working as intended, also I can assure you that if you tried this in a fiat casino you would have run into the same problem, and even if you did not you could have used another casino to gamble, so look for help and stay away from gambling as much as you can as you obviously have some issues with it.

I was also going to comment that casinos cannot ban IP just because someone is addicted and that can be done. there is a complexity in this IP issue