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^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
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June 22, 2022, 02:11:57 AM |
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^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
Yeah, but does it really matter if he is listed as underdog or if his team knows about it? He might probably just smile if the odds is out by now or the day prior to the fight. What is important is that he come to fight and beat Vargas by whatever means. Of course we would like for him to score a knock out, but a decision win is acceptable as well.
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June 22, 2022, 11:24:16 AM |
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Probably, this will be the difficult fight of Mr. Mark Magsayo against Mr. Vargas, Though Magsayo was the underdog. But let see what's gonna happen in the actual fight in the ring. For now its just an speculations in the different people who are waiting for this fight scene for the coming of July 09. Just all I know for now both fighters are giving their best in the training to win in the battle.
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June 22, 2022, 11:50:07 AM |
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Probably, this will be the difficult fight of Mr. Mark Magsayo against Mr. Vargas, Though Magsayo was the underdog. But let see what's gonna happen in the actual fight in the ring. For now its just an speculations in the different people who are waiting for this fight scene for the coming of July 09. Just all I know for now both fighters are giving their best in the training to win in the battle. We cannot conclude that he is the underdog since the odds are not yet available. Let's wait until our favorite sportsbook will list this event and then we can tell who is the favorite and the underdog. if you will ask me, Magsayo should be the favorite here since he is the defending champion, that's pretty basic.
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June 22, 2022, 12:28:28 PM |
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Yes, being listed on either favorite or underdog won't matter to them as they aren't the ones who put some bet on these bookies. Magsayo being listed as an underdog will be an advantage to our sides as a bettor even if it is just a slight of odds as an underdog will always have the prettier odds than the listed favorite.
Being a champion won't be a basis to become a favorite, I think we already know about that part because we've seen enough champions listed as the underdog.
Just like how it is with Canelo and Bivol, and for those bettors who believes that Magsayo still got a good chance defending his belt that slight difference between the odds is good enough to enjoy if happened that Magsayo win this fight, though fans will always be there for him, underdog or not they will place their money on him. Let see how Magsayo will handle this upcoming fight. He needs to work harder to keep his belt.. It will add more hype to his career, very important to make more money from this sport.
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June 22, 2022, 12:30:57 PM |
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Probably, this will be the difficult fight of Mr. Mark Magsayo against Mr. Vargas, Though Magsayo was the underdog. But let see what's gonna happen in the actual fight in the ring. For now its just an speculations in the different people who are waiting for this fight scene for the coming of July 09. Just all I know for now both fighters are giving their best in the training to win in the battle.
Starting from Julio Ceja, every fight of Mark Magsayo were difficult ones and in that Russell fight he was the underdog on that one and many believe that if not for his injury of Russell, Magsayo could have lost that fight. So for me, this first defense against Rey Vargas is very important to show to all the fans that his win against Russell was not a fluke and he deserves the respect of the boxing community. Though there are no official odds for this fight yet I think Magsayo is the underdog for the reason that he is not tested yet in this kind of situation. Vargas has successfully defended his title in the Junior Featherweight so this might be the reason bookies will put the latter as the favorite because of experience.
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June 22, 2022, 12:44:21 PM |
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Though there are no official odds for this fight yet I think Magsayo is the underdog for the reason that he is not tested yet in this kind of situation. Vargas has successfully defended his title in the Junior Featherweight so this might be the reason bookies will put the latter as the favorite because of experience.
It's weird the bookies doesn't have listed this match, probably this is small fight for them and they didn't include it? Many upcoming events like trilogy GGG vs Canelo have been listed on all bookies while the fight will happen 3 months more, while this one around 2 weeks again. So for me, this first defense against Rey Vargas is very important to show to all the fans that his win against Russell was not a fluke and he deserves the respect of the boxing community. I'm not really convinced yet even Magsayo will beat Rey Vargas because Vargas isn't really in his prime condition, he only fought once time for the previous 2 years. The last 7 fights Vargas only won via decision, proving him doesn't have same power like when he was 20'.
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June 22, 2022, 01:11:14 PM |
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It's weird the bookies doesn't have listed this match, probably this is small fight for them and they didn't include it? Many upcoming events like trilogy GGG vs Canelo have been listed on all bookies while the fight will happen 3 months more, while this one around 2 weeks again.
They will list this fight for sure, but since it's not a popular fight, we cannot expect that bookies will have early odds. Most likely, the odds will be available a week before the fight, in some cases, it can be available a day before the fight, so be patient and we shall see the live odds soon.
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btc_angela
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June 22, 2022, 09:22:28 PM |
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It's weird the bookies doesn't have listed this match, probably this is small fight for them and they didn't include it? Many upcoming events like trilogy GGG vs Canelo have been listed on all bookies while the fight will happen 3 months more, while this one around 2 weeks again.
They will list this fight for sure, but since it's not a popular fight, we cannot expect that bookies will have early odds. Most likely, the odds will be available a week before the fight, in some cases, it can be available a day before the fight, so be patient and we shall see the live odds soon. That's how the case for divisions that aren't are well known as the others and specially champion like Mark who hasn't put his mark yet in the US market. So maybe 24 hours prior to the fight, we will see the odds listed and we will know who is the favorite because that has been also discussed previously and others say that Magsayo will be the underdog but there are members who doesn't understand Mark being the underdog since he is the champion.
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June 22, 2022, 09:31:00 PM |
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Though there are no official odds for this fight yet I think Magsayo is the underdog for the reason that he is not tested yet in this kind of situation. Vargas has successfully defended his title in the Junior Featherweight so this might be the reason bookies will put the latter as the favorite because of experience.
It's weird the bookies doesn't have listed this match, probably this is small fight for them and they didn't include it? Many upcoming events like trilogy GGG vs Canelo have been listed on all bookies while the fight will happen 3 months more, while this one around 2 weeks again. I think maybe they will wait for a few more days to list the bets for this fight, it would be very strange if it didn't list the current fight, especially the one who will fight is not a boxer who can be underestimated. Maybe the bookies right now still don't see the huge hype for this fight and I still feel that for the last week or at least a few days before the start of the fight this will be listed.
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June 22, 2022, 10:48:59 PM |
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Though there are no official odds for this fight yet I think Magsayo is the underdog for the reason that he is not tested yet in this kind of situation. Vargas has successfully defended his title in the Junior Featherweight so this might be the reason bookies will put the latter as the favorite because of experience.
It's weird the bookies doesn't have listed this match, probably this is small fight for them and they didn't include it? Many upcoming events like trilogy GGG vs Canelo have been listed on all bookies while the fight will happen 3 months more, while this one around 2 weeks again. I think maybe they will wait for a few more days to list the bets for this fight, it would be very strange if it didn't list the current fight, especially the one who will fight is not a boxer who can be underestimated. Maybe the bookies right now still don't see the huge hype for this fight and I still feel that for the last week or at least a few days before the start of the fight this will be listed. As per my experience with this non profile fights, usually a day before the fight itself. As compare to GGG or Canelo who have been listed already. Nevertheless, I don't think that sport bookies are going to missed this one. This is a huge fight for Mexican and Filipino fans and there are a lot of online bettors from those countries. Come back maybe July 8 and for sure this is going to be listed.
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Rey Vargas says that he knows Magsayo's power, so he is looking to counter him in their fight. “This is going to be exciting combat from start to finish. We know that he has great power, but we’ll be ready to counter that, and anything else he brings to the ring. This is going to be a magnificent fight and I can’t wait to step in there and compete.” https://www.boxingscene.com/rey-vargas-magsayo-great-power-well-ready-counter--167157Can he effectively counter a puncher? what if he was suddenly hits by that left hook that knock out a lot og great boxers? I'm pump for this fight already, watching Magsayo's highlights and with that raw power, I'm thinking that he will have a good chance to score a knock out.
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June 23, 2022, 02:12:14 AM Last edit: June 24, 2022, 12:28:44 AM by Kemarit |
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Rey Vargas says that he knows Magsayo's power, so he is looking to counter him in their fight. “This is going to be exciting combat from start to finish. We know that he has great power, but we’ll be ready to counter that, and anything else he brings to the ring. This is going to be a magnificent fight and I can’t wait to step in there and compete.” https://www.boxingscene.com/rey-vargas-magsayo-great-power-well-ready-counter--167157Can he effectively counter a puncher? what if he was suddenly hits by that left hook that knock out a lot og great boxers? I'm pump for this fight already, watching Magsayo's highlights and with that raw power, I'm thinking that he will have a good chance to score a knock out. Vargas has been knock down throughout his career, and you know what punch it is? Left hook. And that is Rey's favourite weapon. So just in case that land flush on Vargas, he will either knock out or will get up but not in steady legs and that is the time that Magsayo can finished him. Vargas is known to be a brawler, so not sure how can he suddenly become a counter puncher overnight.
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Rey Vargas says that he knows Magsayo's power, so he is looking to counter him in their fight. “This is going to be exciting combat from start to finish. We know that he has great power, but we’ll be ready to counter that, and anything else he brings to the ring. This is going to be a magnificent fight and I can’t wait to step in there and compete.” https://www.boxingscene.com/rey-vargas-magsayo-great-power-well-ready-counter--167157Can he effectively counter a puncher? what if he was suddenly hits by that left hook that knock out a lot og great boxers? I'm pump for this fight already, watching Magsayo's highlights and with that raw power, I'm thinking that he will have a good chance to score a knock out. Vargas has been knock out throughout his career, and you know what punch it is? Left hook. And that is Rey's favourite weapon. So just in case that land flush on Vargas, he will either knock out or will get up but not in steady legs and that is the time that Magsayo can finished him. Vargas is known to be a brawler, so not sure how can he suddenly become a counter puncher overnight. And if my memory serves me right, a Filipino gave Vargas his first knock down of his career, his name is Silverter Lopez in 2014. He might have a weak spot for left hookers, but Vargas has a good recuperating power that's why he was able to get back from the canvass and beat those who score a knock down from him. So Mark should not be satisfied if ever he score a knock down because Vargas will recover. So very important to make a follow up and then finished Rey.
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June 23, 2022, 10:48:39 AM |
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Rey Vargas says that he knows Magsayo's power, so he is looking to counter him in their fight. “This is going to be exciting combat from start to finish. We know that he has great power, but we’ll be ready to counter that, and anything else he brings to the ring. This is going to be a magnificent fight and I can’t wait to step in there and compete.” https://www.boxingscene.com/rey-vargas-magsayo-great-power-well-ready-counter--167157Can he effectively counter a puncher? what if he was suddenly hits by that left hook that knock out a lot og great boxers? I'm pump for this fight already, watching Magsayo's highlights and with that raw power, I'm thinking that he will have a good chance to score a knock out. Vargas has been knock out throughout his career, and you know what punch it is? Left hook. And that is Rey's favourite weapon. So just in case that land flush on Vargas, he will either knock out or will get up but not in steady legs and that is the time that Magsayo can finished him. Vargas is known to be a brawler, so not sure how can he suddenly become a counter puncher overnight. And if my memory serves me right, a Filipino gave Vargas his first knock down of his career, his name is Silverter Lopez in 2014. He might have a weak spot for left hookers, but Vargas has a good recuperating power that's why he was able to get back from the canvass and beat those who score a knock down from him. So Mark should not be satisfied if ever he score a knock down because Vargas will recover. So very important to make a follow up and then finished Rey. That was a long time ago, for sure lots have changed already on this boxer and I'm sure he will give Magsayo a tough challenge. I always believe on Magsayo, but on this fight, I have a feeling that everything is not going to be easy but as long as he continues to work and go for a KO, maybe he will get the right timing to hit Vargas and KO him.
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btc_angela
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June 23, 2022, 11:13:01 AM |
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^^ Chin doesn't change though, your styles will evolved, but your chin doesn't. Just look at Amir Khan, he has known to be have a china chin and it didn't improved even if he is trained by famed coach Roach back in the days. They say they did train his neck, but we've seen that he still have that chin that when anyone touches he will go down or knock out. So if Magsayo landed on his chin perfectly and with good power, he might go down for good.
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Natalim
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June 23, 2022, 11:15:46 AM |
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^^ Chin doesn't change though, your styles will evolved, but your chin doesn't. Just look at Amir Khan, he has known to be have a china chin and it didn't improved even if he is trained by famed coach Roach back in the days. They say they did train his neck, but we've seen that he still have that chin that when anyone touches he will go down or knock out. So if Magsayo landed on his chin perfectly and with good power, he might go down for good.
Amir Khan probably has the weakest chin among boxers who became champions. That was his weakness so his journey now has probably ended despite the fact that he has not announced his retirement yet. Well, Magsayo has to be quick and has a good strategy to set up Vargas well to see an open looks for a solid punch, I'm looking forward to that.
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Yaunfitda
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June 23, 2022, 12:26:00 PM |
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^^ Chin doesn't change though, your styles will evolved, but your chin doesn't. Just look at Amir Khan, he has known to be have a china chin and it didn't improved even if he is trained by famed coach Roach back in the days. They say they did train his neck, but we've seen that he still have that chin that when anyone touches he will go down or knock out. So if Magsayo landed on his chin perfectly and with good power, he might go down for good.
Amir Khan probably has the weakest chin among boxers who became champions. That was his weakness so his journey now has probably ended despite the fact that he has not announced his retirement yet. Well, Magsayo has to be quick and has a good strategy to set up Vargas well to see an open looks for a solid punch, I'm looking forward to that. Yes, an opening that he can take advantage and slip his left hook and let's see if Vargas chin can hold or not. And he admitted that Magsayo has the power so he might be looking for that. But Mark has a decent hand speed as well so it will be very hard to Vargas because he might be overwhelm by Magsayo's volume punching. And if Magsayo smells blood that he will go for it.
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June 23, 2022, 06:06:14 PM |
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^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
Yeah, but does it really matter if he is listed as underdog or if his team knows about it? He might probably just smile if the odds is out by now or the day prior to the fight. What is important is that he come to fight and beat Vargas by whatever means. Of course we would like for him to score a knock out, but a decision win is acceptable as well. Nah! That won't really matter and as if they care enough if they are listed as favorite or underdog. Their performance won't be based on that listing just like being listed as a favorite won't guarantee one's victory. Both boxers will fight for their own legacy as they are both undefeated but Magsayo should definitely try to win this fight as he's the one who can't afford to lose rather than the challenger.
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June 23, 2022, 08:35:41 PM |
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^ It's either someone will whisper to them that they are the underdog or his team are into social media (most likely) and they will find it out sooner or later. But it shouldn't matter though, Magsayo should focus on the fight itself and not what analyst or bettors are feeling. Just accept if he will be the underdog, he has the belt to proved that he is a champion anyways. The fight is like a couple of weeks from now and hopefully Magsayo should just peak in time and not overtrain in this fight. That's the only thing that might be a factor for him, maybe he will overtrain because he want to give us fans a good fight.
Yeah, but does it really matter if he is listed as underdog or if his team knows about it? He might probably just smile if the odds is out by now or the day prior to the fight. What is important is that he come to fight and beat Vargas by whatever means. Of course we would like for him to score a knock out, but a decision win is acceptable as well. Nah! That won't really matter and as if they care enough if they are listed as favorite or underdog. Their performance won't be based on that listing just like being listed as a favorite won't guarantee one's victory. Both boxers will fight for their own legacy as they are both undefeated but Magsayo should definitely try to win this fight as he's the one who can't afford to lose rather than the challenger. Two weeks to go the fight has come in July 9 The best of the ring in their division will still up and claim the belt. These two undefeated fighter challenging themselves to a great and big fight, Vargas has a 35-0 achievement which is that good. For a veteran while magsayo has a record of 24 win 0 losses which is good enough to fight the other undefeated, I still support for my fellow countrymen magsayo hope he will win.
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