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Mark Magsayo should just get used to it because there will be always some people who will doubt his skills especially now that he's still trying to make a legacy to his name in this industry. He should just focus himself with his trainings to defeat Vargas with an impressive ending and a knockout will definitely shut those who doubts at him, maybe not for good but at least he will show his talent once again.
I agree, getting used to it is the best thing but the good thing with boxing is that he can prove himself on the spot. Magsayo doesn't need to explain anything, he just needs to let his punches do the talking. Anyway, it looks like fans are pouring their money on Magsayo now. It isn't a surprise to see a change of odds favoritism. I think some people who doubted him before had changed of hearts. While the fight is nearing, we will expect for more available options, not just the actual odds between the two but additional ways of betting for this upcoming fight.
Definitely! Bookies will take any opportunity that will earn them extra money. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder what will the be odds for Magsayo winning by KO and vice versa.
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July 02, 2022, 06:37:24 AM |
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Definitely! Bookies will take any opportunity that will earn them extra money. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder what will the be odds for Magsayo winning by KO and vice versa. It's not yet listed mate, but it seems the odds have stabled a bit, Magsayo becoming the slight favorite now. I would assume that the odds for a KO win for him might be the same or slight higher than a ML. And it's up to the hands of Magsayo now, becoming the betting favorite equates to him bettors putting fate on his skills and power. So still have a week to go, and maybe at the weigh-in we will see how well train and prepared he is. A body shot might be a good strategy because Vargas is taller.
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July 02, 2022, 07:33:25 AM |
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Definitely! Bookies will take any opportunity that will earn them extra money. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder what will the be odds for Magsayo winning by KO and vice versa. It's not yet listed mate, but it seems the odds have stabled a bit, Magsayo becoming the slight favorite now. I would assume that the odds for a KO win for him might be the same or slight higher than a ML. And it's up to the hands of Magsayo now, becoming the betting favorite equates to him bettors putting fate on his skills and power. So still have a week to go, and maybe at the weigh-in we will see how well train and prepared he is. A body shot might be a good strategy because Vargas is taller. Yeah, I check the odds so there's no more movement, just interesting that once Magsayo becomes the favorite, there is little to no movement at all, but as I have said, I'm not surprised that Magsayo is now the favorite. Good point, we never discusses how he can work Vargas body to soften him up. So he shouldn't head hunt in the beginning, just target the body and see how Vargas will react in the middle of the rounds and if the knockout presents itself because Vargas has weaken because of those body shots then he can go for it.
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July 02, 2022, 03:04:15 PM |
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The bookmakers still have the odds in favor of Mark Magsayo, but among other things, he also has a huge incentive to take the top line of the rating, besides, recently he spent more fights in the ring than Rey Vargas, but at the same time he was in the ring for less time. But these are statistics, and we will soon see how the fight in Texas will turn out.
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July 02, 2022, 03:27:58 PM |
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The bookmakers still have the odds in favor of Mark Magsayo, but among other things, he also has a huge incentive to take the top line of the rating, besides, recently he spent more fights in the ring than Rey Vargas, but at the same time he was in the ring for less time.
He is a slight favorite but that doesn't mean he will easily win the fight. The opening give Vargas the favorite to win the fight, and there's a significant movement which make Magsayo the slight favorite nwo. In terms of experience, Vargas has more fights than Magsayo as Vargas has 35 fights with 22 KO and IMO it will be one of the toughest fight for Magsayo. But these are statistics, and we will soon see how the fight in Texas will turn out. It's very useful because it's our basis in making a decision on which fighter to back, unless we follow our emotion and we just bet on our favorite fighter to win.
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July 02, 2022, 09:57:11 PM |
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The odds now out, at least on Stake.com. I thought odds will be released 1-2 days before the fight but it's early as expected.
The odds is close. Not even a slight but really close. We can't say who's the Favorite or Underdog.
This is a rare moment where a Champion do have a close odds with his Challenger. It's like Magsayo is being put as an underrated here. I'm now aggressively hoping that Magsayo will pull a win here to recognized as one of the best.
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July 02, 2022, 10:30:48 PM |
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The bookmakers still have the odds in favor of Mark Magsayo, but among other things, he also has a huge incentive to take the top line of the rating, besides, recently he spent more fights in the ring than Rey Vargas, but at the same time he was in the ring for less time. But these are statistics, and we will soon see how the fight in Texas will turn out.
The last time I checked the odds, I think the other day,Magsayo is the slight favorite but the term "slight" shouldn't be used because it's really close. When I checked it first , around @1.8 by Magsayo and @1.9 by Vargas. Can we still called it as having a slight favorite or underdog? Like how Bookies considered this fight as close. It just tells us that we can expect a close fight which most fans like.
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July 02, 2022, 10:31:33 PM |
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The odds now out, at least on Stake.com. I thought odds will be released 1-2 days before the fight but it's early as expected.
Perhaps the bookies have listen to us that's why they released the odds this early. The odds is close. Not even a slight but really close. We can't say who's the Favorite or Underdog.
This is a rare moment where a Champion do have a close odds with his Challenger. It's like Magsayo is being put as an underrated here. I'm now aggressively hoping that Magsayo will pull a win here to recognized as one of the best.
That is good though, but it seems that there are a lot of supporters here for Mark Magsayo. Yes, I would say he is underrated, 0 defeat beat Russell Jr. (although injured), becomes a champion but then listed as the underdog in the beginning. If he wins by knockout, or put a clinic against a tall Vargas, for sure he will get the recognition he deserves.
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July 02, 2022, 11:18:03 PM |
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The odds now out, at least on Stake.com. I thought odds will be released 1-2 days before the fight but it's early as expected.
Perhaps the bookies have listen to us that's why they released the odds this early. The odds is close. Not even a slight but really close. We can't say who's the Favorite or Underdog.
This is a rare moment where a Champion do have a close odds with his Challenger. It's like Magsayo is being put as an underrated here. I'm now aggressively hoping that Magsayo will pull a win here to recognized as one of the best.
That is good though, but it seems that there are a lot of supporters here for Mark Magsayo. Yes, I would say he is underrated, 0 defeat beat Russell Jr. (although injured), becomes a champion but then listed as the underdog in the beginning. If he wins by knockout, or put a clinic against a tall Vargas, for sure he will get the recognition he deserves. they maybe underestimating magsayo here as his name is not yet very popular among boxing fans. this is good if you want to bet on him. at least you're not getting like 1.1 or 1.2x odds. 1.8-1.9x is already a good one if he will pull it off. magsayo has a lot of supporters here because of the filipino community. so let's see how he will perform inside the ring. can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
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July 02, 2022, 11:25:11 PM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks.
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July 03, 2022, 01:24:35 AM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks. I think Magsayo will go for a KO, he has the power to do that so yeah, if given the chance and if he see the perfect opportunity to might throw a power left that will level Vargas in the canvass for good. The odd is good for him because Vargas is not that far behind, so still a good bet at ML although the best time is when the odds went out early with Magsayo as underdog at 2.x. (and I thought that he will remain the underdog, but Vargas leads quickly evaporate).
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July 03, 2022, 03:46:58 AM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks. I think Magsayo will go for a KO, he has the power to do that so yeah, if given the chance and if he see the perfect opportunity to might throw a power left that will level Vargas in the canvass for good. The odd is good for him because Vargas is not that far behind, so still a good bet at ML although the best time is when the odds went out early with Magsayo as underdog at 2.x. (and I thought that he will remain the underdog, but Vargas leads quickly evaporate). Magsayo for KO, I think that's the best bet, or if we are not satisfied with Magsayo's performance in the past, then you can go for Vargas winning via decision as I don't see he could hurt Magsayo here. The odds are very competitive, so this fight might be a close fight, or if we see a KO, it should be in the later rounds.
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July 03, 2022, 10:42:13 AM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks. I think Magsayo will go for a KO, he has the power to do that so yeah, if given the chance and if he see the perfect opportunity to might throw a power left that will level Vargas in the canvass for good. The odd is good for him because Vargas is not that far behind, so still a good bet at ML although the best time is when the odds went out early with Magsayo as underdog at 2.x. (and I thought that he will remain the underdog, but Vargas leads quickly evaporate). Magsayo for KO, I think that's the best bet, or if we are not satisfied with Magsayo's performance in the past, then you can go for Vargas winning via decision as I don't see he could hurt Magsayo here. The odds are very competitive, so this fight might be a close fight, or if we see a KO, it should be in the later rounds. I'm okay with that already because Magsayo has a good KO rate so if he wins, it will likely be a KO. He has 24 wins and 16 of that from KO, which means his KO rate is 67% https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/653034He knows that an impressive win will bring him big fights in the future, so if he wants to be more successful in boxing, he has to win this one.
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July 03, 2022, 06:43:28 PM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks. I think Magsayo will go for a KO, he has the power to do that so yeah, if given the chance and if he see the perfect opportunity to might throw a power left that will level Vargas in the canvass for good. The odd is good for him because Vargas is not that far behind, so still a good bet at ML although the best time is when the odds went out early with Magsayo as underdog at 2.x. (and I thought that he will remain the underdog, but Vargas leads quickly evaporate). Magsayo for KO, I think that's the best bet, or if we are not satisfied with Magsayo's performance in the past, then you can go for Vargas winning via decision as I don't see he could hurt Magsayo here. The odds are very competitive, so this fight might be a close fight, or if we see a KO, it should be in the later rounds. Same here, his KO ratio is actually decent so a victory by KO is totally possible with Magsayo especially now that he's learning a thing or two from coach Freddie Roach, he just needs to find that right pace and timing to extend his power left to make it happen. I expect a close bout in the early rounds so yeah, KO will probably happen somwhere from 6th - 10th round.
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July 03, 2022, 10:49:22 PM |
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Same here, his KO ratio is actually decent so a victory by KO is totally possible with Magsayo especially now that he's learning a thing or two from coach Freddie Roach, he just needs to find that right pace and timing to extend his power left to make it happen. I expect a close bout in the early rounds so yeah, KO will probably happen somwhere from 6th - 10th round.
Yes, it's possible to happen. Magsayo is growing and improving while he progresses. He is learning from every of his win which makes his confidence boost more. Under Freddie Roach's assistance, he is turning Magsayo into a much better fighter as they continue to move forward. Although Vargas is a good challenger, Magsayo can surely outmatch him. A knockout win is what I'm looking forward to Magsayo to make his name become popular more.
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July 03, 2022, 11:06:24 PM |
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can he throw a ko punch on vargas?
He should and I'm looking forward to that. That KO win will give Magsayo an appreciation to the boxing community. I just found it unfair that even he is winning, people like a KO win to get the respect he get. Since PH community used to see KO win from Pacquiao, our other boxers are expected to do the same way. A good odds for a champion. Where can we see odds of an champion at over 1.8? Placing a bet for Magsayo is worth the risks. I think Magsayo will go for a KO, he has the power to do that so yeah, if given the chance and if he see the perfect opportunity to might throw a power left that will level Vargas in the canvass for good. The odd is good for him because Vargas is not that far behind, so still a good bet at ML although the best time is when the odds went out early with Magsayo as underdog at 2.x. (and I thought that he will remain the underdog, but Vargas leads quickly evaporate). Magsayo for KO, I think that's the best bet, or if we are not satisfied with Magsayo's performance in the past, then you can go for Vargas winning via decision as I don't see he could hurt Magsayo here. The odds are very competitive, so this fight might be a close fight, or if we see a KO, it should be in the later rounds. Yes, it will be really impressive if he goes and win by KO to silence all his doubters and critics specially them questioning on how he won against Gary. I'm one of those who says that Mark should win convincingly and then raise the flag of the Philippines again. Vargas has all the advantage over him because he is tall, but I will give Mark the power because he really has that in possession in his arsenal and that power landed on Vargas, he might proved that height doesn't matter in boxing again.
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July 03, 2022, 11:27:47 PM |
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he might proved that height doesn't matter in boxing again.
If that height didn't use properly, then it's useless. Still, weight and speed play a big role over height. There are lots of times when the taller ones struggle to keep up with the fight because their opponent is quick and versatile. I don't mean that Vargas will be like that but if Magsayo founds a way to box him at most rounds, the latter can score more points in each round while slowly crashing Vargas' defense. Regardless if Magsayo will win via KO or Decision, a win is a win and I will never say that I'm not satisfied with his performance. If Magsayo won via Decision especially if it's clear that he really won the match, that's a deserving win with no question.
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July 04, 2022, 07:33:06 AM |
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And then we have a shift of the odds again, very strange, I thought that Magsayo will remain the favorite, nevertheless this is where the Stake.com odds are:
Magsayo - 1.97 Vargas - 1.81
So somewhere, this is a huge money suddenly going into Vargas when they saw him being the underdog. So this is another great opportunity for Magsayo's supporters, because his odds went to 1.83 (still good), but the current odds is much better.
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July 04, 2022, 10:11:24 AM |
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And then we have a shift of the odds again, very strange, I thought that Magsayo will remain the favorite, nevertheless this is where the Stake.com odds are:
Magsayo - 1.97 Vargas - 1.81
So somewhere, this is a huge money suddenly going into Vargas when they saw him being the underdog. So this is another great opportunity for Magsayo's supporters, because his odds went to 1.83 (still good), but the current odds is much better.
I like it, it is now favored Magsayo because of the odds that is bigger than Vargas. I say it favors because as a bettor that likes to bet on Magsayo, that 1.96 ML is very attractive. With this lots of odds movement, it only tells that not much money are being wagered in this particular fight.
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July 04, 2022, 12:06:43 PM |
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And then we have a shift of the odds again, very strange, I thought that Magsayo will remain the favorite, nevertheless this is where the Stake.com odds are:
Magsayo - 1.97 Vargas - 1.81
So somewhere, this is a huge money suddenly going into Vargas when they saw him being the underdog. So this is another great opportunity for Magsayo's supporters, because his odds went to 1.83 (still good), but the current odds is much better.
I like it, it is now favored Magsayo because of the odds that is bigger than Vargas. I say it favors because as a bettor that likes to bet on Magsayo, that 1.96 ML is very attractive. With this lots of odds movement, it only tells that not much money are being wagered in this particular fight. I disagree with that, this is a world champion fight so I don't think people will not be interested in betting on this fight. Maybe there's a shark that bet big money on Vargas and that's the reason why Magsayo is the underdog again, but it does not really matter though because Magsayo will win and we will enjoy that 1.97 odds payout.
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