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May 14, 2022, 10:17:39 AM |
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It's pathetic to know this fact. But, in fact, Horse Racing has always become one of the most favorite bettings in the world, moreover many big gamblers from rich people love doing betting in this Horse racing. So, this may be very hard to stop or ban this betting. You know, big business is there and we may fight with many rich people with high powers in the world, or in each country. Those deaths are logical enough. The horse may be also treated as a human athlete who must also do some diet that will make their body healthy and fit in every race, high periods of training every day, and other pressures that of course got by the horses.
Cant agree more. Since this is sports of rich so there is nothing we can do to stop this cruel act. Animal abuse is not only limited to horse racing, we see similar sort of abuse in cattle racing, camel racing and more. No sincere effort has been made tll date to stop this, as you said its like by big gamblers. That's sad reality of this world. This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money. Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
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May 14, 2022, 10:22:51 AM |
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living.
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Jemzx00
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May 14, 2022, 11:19:42 AM |
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living. Well not all man are destroying the planet we live in. Most humans who hunts animals are mainly because of foods, money and survival. But, yes, you're right, the main reason why our planet are dying is also because of humans. Just imagine how much pollution we humans are making without even contributing any to control it such as cars, factories and many more. Anyway, as per the OP's topic about most of us humans are still continuing with these kind of activities where we bet or gamble to these poor animals. Just as AicecreaME mentioned above, we are living in a reality which we are mind conditioned that these are normal. Not only with horses but also with other animals such as cock fights, dog fights and much more. These activities has been happening way too long and might have become a norm to others but it's a good thing that animal right groups and community are contradicting it and now has a voice. We might still hope for this not to be continued and be ended on the near future as there are so much more alternative.
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May 14, 2022, 12:15:29 PM |
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living. At some point in the near future I hope humans will realise that everything they do has a consequence for their own selves. You pollute the air? Good luck trying to keep breathing. Pollute the water? Your next sushi meal might give you cancer. People need to finally wake up and realise that we are sitting on a rock with limited resources and life is in a very delicate balance. If we keep upsetting this balance, life will become impossible to sustain and the planet will lose its ability to regenerate the damage that we do. In fact, we are already doing permanent damage. We need to stop NOW.
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May 14, 2022, 01:01:45 PM |
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living. At some point in the near future I hope humans will realise that everything they do has a consequence for their own selves. You pollute the air? Good luck trying to keep breathing. Pollute the water? Your next sushi meal might give you cancer. There are already people who realize this and have started a campaign, but it is just a small group of people since none of us care about our environment or our world since they are still continuing deforestation and also throwing waste into our bodies of water. I think all people will realize this if something happens like a food shortage and no drinkable water. As of now, most who are knowledgeable about the environment are also scared for the next generation. What will they do if all of the resources are gone? This will continue unless all of us work together to stop climate change; we must unite as one to have an impact on our world so that our children's children can still appreciate the beauty of the earth.
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May 14, 2022, 01:06:55 PM |
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living. At some point in the near future I hope humans will realise that everything they do has a consequence for their own selves. You pollute the air? Good luck trying to keep breathing. Pollute the water? Your next sushi meal might give you cancer. People need to finally wake up and realise that we are sitting on a rock with limited resources and life is in a very delicate balance. If we keep upsetting this balance, life will become impossible to sustain and the planet will lose its ability to regenerate the damage that we do. In fact, we are already doing permanent damage. We need to stop NOW. Can we? This kind of gambling or hobby have been the subject of criticism for so long. Has it been abolished? No. It has been proven a number of times that the animals are made to go through trainings, diets, and overall condition that they don’t really enjoy. But why are they still allowed to operate? It is because the people who should create laws of animal welfare and implement them are the ones guilty of it. Dog racing and fighting are still done until today. Horse racing and fighting are still done until today. Shows showcasing animals like lions, elephants, tigers, dolphins, sea lions, etc are still done and enjoyed by a lot of people despite the violence until today.
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May 14, 2022, 01:27:41 PM |
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I couldn’t agree more with you. These kinds of activity continuous because they are permitted to, and unfortunately, tolerated by those who supposedly controlling the legality of any business venture in the society. And no wonder that this is being supported by the these officials because they really benefit from it. And of course, if people see that it is being permitted, then they will undoubtedly indulge it.
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Cryptock
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May 15, 2022, 05:36:25 AM |
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I couldn’t agree more with you. These kinds of activity continuous because they are permitted to, and unfortunately, tolerated by those who supposedly controlling the legality of any business venture in the society. And no wonder that this is being supported by the these officials because they really benefit from it. And of course, if people see that it is being permitted, then they will undoubtedly indulge it.
and all those who indulge themselves in animal cruelty be it bullfighting, horse racing or cock fighting. They have very strong heart I must say. They are those who can do anything for the money. I might not trust them those who put animals on stake for the sake of fun and money.
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May 15, 2022, 02:59:27 PM |
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and all those who indulge themselves in animal cruelty be it bullfighting, horse racing or cock fighting. They have very strong heart I must say. They are those who can do anything for the money. I might not trust them those who put animals on stake for the sake of fun and money.
Well, you could say that, given that they could bear pursuing and supporting something even if it would mean that a part of it is not that all good. I couldn’t blame you for doubting such people, after all you won’t know what they can risk and sacrifice for the sake of having money as a benefit of closing their eyes to the reality.
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Sirait
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May 15, 2022, 04:18:12 PM |
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I couldn’t agree more with you. These kinds of activity continuous because they are permitted to, and unfortunately, tolerated by those who supposedly controlling the legality of any business venture in the society. And no wonder that this is being supported by the these officials because they really benefit from it. And of course, if people see that it is being permitted, then they will undoubtedly indulge it.
every thing that is allowed by the state (not only gambling but also investment assets) surely citizens will really believe it and think it is a normal thing, it is difficult to change that perception when the government (the group that has control over anything in a country) legalize horse racing.
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May 15, 2022, 04:35:51 PM |
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every thing that is allowed by the state (not only gambling but also investment assets) surely citizens will really believe it and think it is a normal thing, it is difficult to change that perception when the government (the group that has control over anything in a country) legalize horse racing.
There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
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May 15, 2022, 04:59:23 PM |
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain.
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May 15, 2022, 05:12:29 PM |
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain. Not only on an "Ideal" society should the government represents it's people but rather it should be common sense. However, Governments rather act when the masses are against something which is the only time they act. Also, in this case, I don't think anyone will think that it's normal for horse in these activities to be hurt or mistreated. Yes, horse racing may a norm to some people as it has been a sport long before and I highly doubt that they'll ban it but they can do something for the people who mistreated the animal involve.
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May 16, 2022, 10:41:02 AM |
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain. anyone who has heard of the story of Children being smuggled for camel race because the kids make an ideal jokey for camel. I think this is more cruel than having a professional horse racing jokey. But what so ever different professions and different country have their own set pattern to deal with the stuff.
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May 16, 2022, 10:27:16 PM |
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain. They should but, there are those governments that would also look on their own terms and understand even if the people won't speak about it. Whether they see nothing wrong with it but based on the morals of what the government can see, they'll have to act on it. There's a legal and due process to everything and it's still the government that will tell whether a go or stop signal must be done by their initiatives.
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain. They should but, there are those governments that would also look on their own terms and understand even if the people won't speak about it. Whether they see nothing wrong with it but based on the morals of what the government can see, they'll have to act on it. There's a legal and due process to everything and it's still the government that will tell whether a go or stop signal must be done by their initiatives. If such petition would come into a certain extent where its already that rampant or just too big for it to get some concern then they might really be considering it out but it would only be just good on a certain county and it wont really be that global decision because each country does have its own juridictions on things when it comes on imposing laws and regulations. If there are places who do mind much about animal cruelty then its up to their government on what would be their taking into this scenario.
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every thing that is allowed by the state (not only gambling but also investment assets) surely citizens will really believe it and think it is a normal thing, it is difficult to change that perception when the government (the group that has control over anything in a country) legalize horse racing.
Exactly. So needless to say, as long as the government say yes to something, regardless if it is seen to be questionable by the majority, it will continue to pursued and nothing could really stop that unless legal intervention happens. But maybe, just like what was stated by @passwordnow, petition powered by the movement of the citizens could change this.
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This is the sad reality in the society we're living in. If the majority is siding with it, they perceive it to be good even though they know deep down that it's not. Perhaps it's conditioned in their mind that as long as they benefit from it, despite the consequences it has for others, it's all good. After all, they are not directly affected, only the animals. And this mindset is really upsetting. It's like humans have lost their empathy just for the sake of having fun and winning money.
Despite it existing so many years now, I do really hope it would be abolished together with other gambling activities and practices that hurts and put the welfare of the animals at risk. The technology and innovation is quickly advancing and we can do so many alternatives for it. Wishing they'll divert to those instead.
Ever since men stepped on this planet he is destroying the natives of this land be it animals on lands or fishes in ocean. There are many species who cease to exists just because human kill them for fun. I dont think there are many who are interested in horse racing but in gambling. Let these animals live there life just like we are living. At some point in the near future I hope humans will realise that everything they do has a consequence for their own selves. You pollute the air? Good luck trying to keep breathing. Pollute the water? Your next sushi meal might give you cancer. People need to finally wake up and realise that we are sitting on a rock with limited resources and life is in a very delicate balance. If we keep upsetting this balance, life will become impossible to sustain and the planet will lose its ability to regenerate the damage that we do. In fact, we are already doing permanent damage. We need to stop NOW. This is very well said and I appreciate seeing people who actually understand how much damage we are doing to this world and not just in regards to the environment but also in terms of animal welfare. I absolutely can’t believe that people are still defending horse racing. It’s fucking cruel and wrong and just because so many people /countries still allow it doesn’t make it right !
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There can also be times when the government changes their minds. It's because it's no longer healthy not just for their citizen but also for their country. When there's a petition like in horse racing, a movement or group files that because they're seeing the irregularities and it's no longer a normal thing to see such deaths of horses due to mistreatment.
In an ideal society, the government is the representatives of the people. If people don't like the idea of horse racing (with the associated cost of the death of racehorses) then they will give it up without any decrees or orders. But if some people consider this to be normal and others do not, then it probably cannot be banned, since the priority of human rights and not animals should still remain. They should but, there are those governments that would also look on their own terms and understand even if the people won't speak about it. Whether they see nothing wrong with it but based on the morals of what the government can see, they'll have to act on it. There's a legal and due process to everything and it's still the government that will tell whether a go or stop signal must be done by their initiatives. If such petition would come into a certain extent where its already that rampant or just too big for it to get some concern then they might really be considering it out but it would only be just good on a certain county and it wont really be that global decision because each country does have its own juridictions on things when it comes on imposing laws and regulations. If there are places who do mind much about animal cruelty then its up to their government on what would be their taking into this scenario. After all, the problem is that there are bets on horse racing, I'm sure if there is no form of betting in it then the horse racing tournament will still run. Because the problem is that they see a horse that dies because there is a bet that results in the horse dying, while basically the death of a horse that occurs may be purely because of the time the horse died or maybe tired from being trained too often and forced to keep running in the horse race itself. So for me personally, problems like this shouldn't be as big as death by betting, if they want to make rules then they can stop betting themselves without involving to stop the horse racing.
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They should but, there are those governments that would also look on their own terms and understand even if the people won't speak about it. Whether they see nothing wrong with it but based on the morals of what the government can see, they'll have to act on it. There's a legal and due process to everything and it's still the government that will tell whether a go or stop signal must be done by their initiatives.
If such petition would come into a certain extent where its already that rampant or just too big for it to get some concern then they might really be considering it out but it would only be just good on a certain county and it wont really be that global decision because each country does have its own juridictions on things when it comes on imposing laws and regulations. If there are places who do mind much about animal cruelty then its up to their government on what would be their taking into this scenario. Yeah, definitely not a global decision. It's just going to be country to country unless there's a world organization like ISO. They have to put it on a standard and most countries that are part of that organization should follow that. If there's an order of disallowing it because of the cruelty that it imposes. Everyone who's part of this international body will have to obey that order so that there's going to be peace and order or any mission and vision that they have as a motto and goal.
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