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May 06, 2022, 06:16:32 AM
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1:We all know it’s house edge :1%
2:This game you access any gambling website , its always auto run there .

How to change it ? Or could we change it different?

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience  i think its gone be ok!

2:How to make money as the casino owner?
First , you can control the game time!
you could choose to open a new game anytime,and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour, why do that? you could take the winner profits 1~5% as fee
its like, i join your game room ,play the crash,the game is 0 edge to me but just  in 30mins or 1hour,i don’t know i will win  or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

3: if as a player , you think its not fair about the hash , you could choose to different seeds game room

I just want know the  calculation of these new ways ,good or not?

thanks everyone‘s answers!


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May 06, 2022, 06:19:10 AM
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Are you really referring to crash game? as most crash games are running 24/7 and the owners cannot control the game time of the game and I think you are referring to something like a PVP game I am not sure why but I understand the concept of charging the winner a certain percentage as gambling site's profit.

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May 06, 2022, 07:37:38 AM
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Are you really referring to crash game? as most crash games are running 24/7 and the owners cannot control the game time of the game and I think you are referring to something like a PVP game I am not sure why but I understand the concept of charging the winner a certain percentage as gambling site's profit.

1: Yes it’s running 24/7, but only one choice , its not like living game, like baccarat,we can choose different room,
Why crash don’t do like that? As player , you don’t want more different room to choose?

2: if as casino, i know 1% profit from every bet is good, but its possible to reduce ,right?
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May 06, 2022, 07:44:11 AM
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Since it is a different type of game and unlike rooms where every room has its own limits in betting the crash game doesn't have and it is a community game where all people can place bet on the same round and about the 1% I am not sure only the gambling owners or game providers can answer that but I am sure that they will not as they will not earn profit for that.

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May 06, 2022, 07:59:41 AM
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Since it is a different type of game and unlike rooms where every room has its own limits in betting the crash game doesn't have and it is a community game where all people can place bet on the same round and about the 1% I am not sure only the gambling owners or game providers can answer that but I am sure that they will not as they will not earn profit for that.

we don’t need them to answer this question , if this way is available, players will change them!
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May 06, 2022, 08:08:14 AM
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Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

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May 06, 2022, 08:15:41 AM
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Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

I have said , the house-edge could change to zero!
To me, i would rather to play crash for 10 minutes everyday , whatever win or Lose.
So if i bet 100usd every time , its mean i pay 1usd to casino,
But i know i just want to play 10mins , could i play a real 0 edge fair game ?
If i win , i like to pay 1%-5% profits to casino as the service fee or just tips?
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May 06, 2022, 08:32:39 AM
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I don't think that's how casino works, usually it would works on their favor and not on the players so don't expect it to happen since it is business and they wouldn't risk that kind of thing for you so it is either you get used to it or don't play on those gambling sites at all.

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May 06, 2022, 08:47:20 AM
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Two things: casino will go bust or casino will die due to lack of players. Why take a share of the winnings of the players if you already have some house-edge setup? Your casino operators are not the government to tax players of their gains lol. They shouldn't be collecting a share of the players' wins just to make some profit. A very bad business model I should say. The casino will go bust very easily and the players will not be attracted to play at all.

I have said , the house-edge could change to zero!
To me, i would rather to play crash for 10 minutes everyday , whatever win or Lose.
So if i bet 100usd every time , its mean i pay 1usd to casino,
But i know i just want to play 10mins , could i play a real 0 edge fair game ?
If i win , i like to pay 1%-5% profits to casino as the service fee or just tips?

You are looking for a charity and not a Casino. House edge gives the casino a fixed profit for there operational cost and other expenses just to maintain the casino running. House edge percentage is very small that can affect your profitability. You are suggesting a more favorable terms for players as if casino doesn't any operational expenses for running there website. The idea is good for the players sake but it's not feasible for a business to operate just like that.

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May 06, 2022, 09:02:52 AM
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You are looking for a charity and not a Casino. House edge gives the casino a fixed profit for there operational cost and other expenses just to maintain the casino running. House edge percentage is very small that can affect your profitability. You are suggesting a more favorable terms for players as if casino doesn't any operational expenses for running there website. The idea is good for the players sake but it's not feasible for a business to operate just like that.
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May 06, 2022, 09:39:53 AM
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It is impossible for business minded companies. If you are going to create a gambling casino that is like that I am sure that your business won't take long and you will be either not taking any profit from it or will be in debt.

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May 06, 2022, 09:44:37 AM
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Everything is possible !
To casino , everybody knows the biggest problem is new players, why? Because they make too much money!

If i creat a new online gambling website , i will do it !
Thing is, that's your opinion, and you certainly ain't the owner of the various casinos out there. Businesses don't look at things in the short term, having a lack of players in the early stage certainly isn't a problem for them since the plans they've made take such situations into account. Given enough time, most casinos would grow to a level enough to actually pay back the losses (and probably more) that they lost early on when the player count was low.

 
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May 06, 2022, 12:43:18 PM
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Usually casinos always and always  got winning percentage over the customer.
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May 06, 2022, 01:10:46 PM
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Go for a 0% house edge and you'll eventually be going to adjust to a likelihood of 0.1%.

A casino is a business and as an owner, you'll have to take a share from the operation that you'll do unless you want to run a charity out of it. Taking a percentage from the winner's profit on top of the house edge, you'll just push customers away.

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May 06, 2022, 01:22:40 PM
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Go for a 0% house edge and you'll eventually be going to adjust to a likelihood of 0.1%.

A casino is a business and as an owner, you'll have to take a share from the operation that you'll do unless you want to run a charity out of it. Taking a percentage from the winner's profit on top of the house edge, you'll just push customers away.

So, you think 0%edge and take winner’s profit  is not good idea, even its more fair and cheap fees than 1%~2.5%edge
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May 06, 2022, 02:18:41 PM
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Casinos are made as a business, to earn money, not to financially adjust their rules just to attract players that can't afford 1% house edge. No offense but, gambling platforms never force anyone to play on their sites, so I don't think it is possible to make their house edge zero unless they are willing to be bankrupt. That's why wealthy people are the only one who are mostly seen in online casinos even in physical casinos because they can afford to lose money without blaming the casino for their addiction or losing of money.

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May 06, 2022, 02:44:48 PM
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Everything is possible !
To casino , everybody knows the biggest problem is new players, why? Because they make too much money!

If i creat a new online gambling website , i will do it !

If you manage to create a casino that doesn't charge house edge and has a rules in favor with players, Feel free to notify us so that we can support you and share us your money. I knew some project casino before that offer 0% house edge. I think it's edgeless, I don't know what happened to them since it's way back 2017 to 2018 but as you can see, They are not popular anymore and probably dead despite they offer what you suggest.

That’s bad news.
Maybe online casino could provider different way to make players money!
I just want discuss the idea with smart guys ,because I’m a stupid boy!
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May 06, 2022, 05:37:37 PM
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So, you think 0%edge and take winner’s profit  is not good idea, even its more fair and cheap fees than 1%~2.5%edge
If a casino or a gambling site have that kind of house edge then that site would surely go bust and die. House edge is what the site's profit will be and the amount that the gamblers lose will be keep safe by them and use it to pay those who want to withdraw their winnings and those who deposited less but won bigtime. Can you provide the funds yourself for your crew or staffs alone if you don't take 1% as a house edge?. 1% is low enough unlike other gambling sites where house edge is not %1 at all.

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May 06, 2022, 06:01:53 PM
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I am not sure I correctly understood your idea but isn't the fee you are going to charge on winnings exactly what the house edge means!

Let's suppose just for the sake of argument that there will be a lonely player and he will play two 10 minutes rounds and the game odds are 50/50 (this is what the numbers will tend towards anyway with more players and more rounds).
Let's also suppose he will bet a total of $100 on each round. Since the odds of winning are 50/50 then it's safe to assume he will lose it all on one round (-$100) and double it on the other round on which you will charge him a 5% fee (+$95).
By the end, the player ended up with - 5$ loss and the casino with +$5 profit on a total bet of $200. So, on the long run the casino profit is 2.5% from all rounds.

This is what your house edge is: fee/2

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May 06, 2022, 06:04:53 PM
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You cannot manually auto-change the house edge because it's set by the website by itself and it's different for a lot of other games. What you can do is manually cash out! Change your bet on a particular crash round and at the same time if you are not satisfied you can very easily check other sites as well whose gaming could be more profitable for you with a better RTP. For me I love crash games but there are few sites on where it would continually crash at 0 which is quite annoying but for some if you go slow and steady , you can make quite the profit. I don't really trust the game a lot now, seems like it's all hooked up to make us loose. That gets us to ur second point 'controlling the game' it must be actually 'fair'
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