Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..

[be.open]

The problem with democracy is that it quickly degenerates into idiocracy. Look at the USA and Western Europe - this is some kind of den of homosexuals and drug addicts. Okay, Biden is an idiot senile, but his advisers and assistants are not much better. Western politicians have been shredded and turned into clowns and political prostitutes who engage in populism and lobbying for the interests of large corporations (which is veiled corruption). Don't tell me this is a good role model because it isn't.

Yeah who needs freedom, it's overrated. Give peasants a five year plan and they'll steal everything that's not bolted down, drink it all away, and the TV will tell them that they live better than the rotten West.

In the homeland of democracy in ancient Greece, each democrat had several slaves. Modern Western democracy is not far from its progenitor. Winston Churchill once said that: “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried”. I do not idealize Putin, but you do not idealize Western democracy either, whose welfare is based on the robbery of former colonies.

Has Russia managed to manufacture anything more complex than a pair of socks yet (if that)? Seems like you're having trouble with everything from cars to basic food packaging.

Russia has eased safety standards for cars produced on its territory, such as dropping the requirement for airbags, after Western sanctions over the war in Ukraine caused a shortage of electronic components and car parts. In a decree signed on May 12, the Russian government announced a list of reduced requirements to certify some types of new vehicles produced in the country.

It includes the production of cars without Anti-Lock Braking System (ABS) sensors, airbags or Emergency Locking Retractors (ELR) for seatbelts. The decree is in effect until February 1, 2023.

Izvestia: milk and juice producers warned of a reduction in the range

Manufacturers of dairy products and juice in Russia warned of the possibility of a reduction in the range due to a lack of aseptic packaging. This was reported by the Izvestia newspaper, citing the largest company in this field.

In other news, China doesn't want Russian-registered Boeing/Airbus planes in its airspace (those are the stolen leased planes). So cheap crap from China will also get increasingly difficult to acquire.

https://www.rbc.ru/politics/27/05/2022/6290b53a9a7947300bc0fc87

Oh and before you say "railroads" - Siemens pulled train maintenance contracts so it's gonna be back to 1960s there too.

That's what Russia's "full force" looks like.

Well, then Russia will have to liberate, in addition to Donbass, Germany or Japan.

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[paxmao]

The problem with democracy is that it quickly degenerates into idiocracy. Look at the USA and Western Europe - this is some kind of den of homosexuals and drug addicts. Okay, Biden is an idiot senile, but his advisers and assistants are not much better. Western politicians have been shredded and turned into clowns and political prostitutes who engage in populism and lobbying for the interests of large corporations (which is veiled corruption). Don't tell me this is a good role model because it isn't.

Yeah who needs freedom, it's overrated. Give peasants a five year plan and they'll steal everything that's not bolted down, drink it all away, and the TV will tell them that they live better than the rotten West.

In the homeland of democracy in ancient Greece, each democrat had several slaves. Modern Western democracy is not far from its progenitor. Winston Churchill once said that: “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others that have been tried”. I do not idealize Putin, but you do not idealize Western democracy either, whose welfare is based on the robbery of former colonies.
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Well, then Russia will have to liberate, in addition to Donbass, Germany or Japan.

Curious that you mention about slavery and domination Russia did not abolish serfdom until 1906 (Yep, that is the XXth century). A long tradition of telling people where and how can they live seems to be part of the idiosyncrasy. Only Austria-Hungary keep it longer I see to recall.

Idiocracy is created when people forget that you do need to educate everyone to keep a healthy democracy and that it is not something you can take for granted. Despots occur naturally and have to be controlled by having healthy and powerful checks and balances to avoid things like eliminating free press or, for example, getting people to storm on the buildings when the outcome is not to your liking.

Nothing new really...

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/11/03/donald-trump-julius-caesar-433956

Two thousand years ago, the famous Republic had a chance to reject a dangerous populist. It failed, and the rest is history

[og kush420]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

Earlier when it was Covid - the world looked like a horrible place like in the move World War Z. The world was in chaos during COVID.
When that war of COVID ended - there came and other war Russia and Ukraine. There was another war of US and Afghan which ended abruptly after 20 years. And it also did so much damage - I live in a region which was not part of any war yet badly badly affected.

[BADecker]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..


Russia understands this fact, that they have already won.

[Sayeds56]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

Earlier when it was Covid - the world looked like a horrible place like in the move World War Z. The world was in chaos during COVID.
When that war of COVID ended - there came and other war Russia and Ukraine. There was another war of US and Afghan which ended abruptly after 20 years. And it also did so much damage - I live in a region which was not part of any war yet badly badly affected.

I really don't understand what did Allied forces gain from Afghan war, did it eliminate terrorism or restored democratic rule in Afghanistan. Unfortunately no targeted objective was achieved and same Taliban are ruling Afghanistan again who were ruling there before Allied forces came in. The economic situation in Afghanistan is getting worse, food shortage and collapsing health care system is an alarming situation which needs urgent attention of humanitarian organization. I am afraid prolonging war in Ukraine and economic sanctions on Russia can also disrupt food supply and create food shortage all over the world.

[philipma1957]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

Earlier when it was Covid - the world looked like a horrible place like in the move World War Z. The world was in chaos during COVID.
When that war of COVID ended - there came and other war Russia and Ukraine. There was another war of US and Afghan which ended abruptly after 20 years. And it also did so much damage - I live in a region which was not part of any war yet badly badly affected.

I really don't understand what did Allied forces gain from Afghan war, did it eliminate terrorism or restored democratic rule in Afghanistan. Unfortunately no targeted objective was achieved and same Taliban are ruling Afghanistan again who were ruling there before Allied forces came in. The economic situation in Afghanistan is getting worse, food shortage and collapsing health care system is an alarming situation which needs urgent attention of humanitarian organization. I am afraid prolonging war in Ukraine and economic sanctions on Russia can also disrupt food supply and create food shortage all over the world.

You look at this as east vs west or communism vs democracy.

It is not. This is the price of oil is mooned.

The players USA/Nato vs Russia/China the chip or tool Ukraine 🇺🇦

The goal is really high cost oil.

As Prez Bush once said mission accomplished.

[Sayeds56]

The average Russian may have started to notice some effects from sanctions - "the latest iPhone in Russia is... the one you have in your hand". But they are just not realising how bad this can get when extended for years.

Today, I spoke with an Iranian about the effect of the sanctions due to the failure to implement a nuclear deal with US - curiously linked to some of the requirement on regards to collaboration with Russia. The country has gone down economically like never before, people are really frustrated, afraid and struggling everyday.

All those "Z" supremacists that are supporting Adolf Putin's war of aggression have been so brainwashed into believing that nothing can touch them that reality is going to hit them like a precision GU bomb laser-guided into their anal orifices.

Earlier when it was Covid - the world looked like a horrible place like in the move World War Z. The world was in chaos during COVID.
When that war of COVID ended - there came and other war Russia and Ukraine. There was another war of US and Afghan which ended abruptly after 20 years. And it also did so much damage - I live in a region which was not part of any war yet badly badly affected.

I really don't understand what did Allied forces gain from Afghan war, did it eliminate terrorism or restored democratic rule in Afghanistan. Unfortunately no targeted objective was achieved and same Taliban are ruling Afghanistan again who were ruling there before Allied forces came in. The economic situation in Afghanistan is getting worse, food shortage and collapsing health care system is an alarming situation which needs urgent attention of humanitarian organization. I am afraid prolonging war in Ukraine and economic sanctions on Russia can also disrupt food supply and create food shortage all over the world.

You look at this as east vs west or communism vs democracy.

It is not. This is the price of oil is mooned.

The players USA/Nato vs Russia/China the chip or tool Ukraine 🇺🇦

The goal is really high cost oil.

As Prez Bush once said mission accomplished.

You are absolutely right, the true cause behind wars during the past 20 years has been vested interest of increasing oil prices or taking control of oil resources which is very unfortunate for developing countries. The economies of many developing countries are on the brink of collapse due to sky rocking price of oil which has massively disturbed their foreign exchange reserves. We have recently  witnessed fall out  Sri Lankan government due to economic crisis and it is likely to happen in many more countries if oil prices continue rising.

[Betwrong]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
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A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.

[og kush420]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
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A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.

Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

[suchmoon]

Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

These rumors have been going on for so long, that it's starting to sound like some sort of FSB fairy tale designed to make people think "hey, the guy is ill, it's not his fault that things are going bad", or "just wait a little bit more, he's gonna croak soon and everything will be fine".

I'll believe it when he's buried (or pickled next to Lenin).

[Sayeds56]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
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A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.

Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

 After invading Ukraine Putin has had shaky media appearances and has been described — with varying reliability — as suffering from everything from Parkinson's disease to dementia. These are speculation in main stream and social media (but not confirmed by any reliable source) that he is suffering from some type of cancer or Parkinson's disease but we know that truth is the first victim when war breaks out so hard to believe what is being reported.

https://www.businessinsider.com/timeline-putin-alleged-health-problems-2022-5

[og kush420]

 After invading Ukraine Putin has had shaky media appearances and has been described — with varying reliability — as suffering from everything from Parkinson's disease to dementia. These are speculation in main stream and social media (but not confirmed by any reliable source) that he is suffering from some type of cancer or Parkinson's disease but we know that truth is the first victim when war breaks out so hard to believe what is being reported.

https://www.businessinsider.com/timeline-putin-alleged-health-problems-2022-5

It was mentioned somewhere and they said Putin in not feeling well and he is unwell.
However Russia is using all its power to capture  the Eastern City. There are so many casualties  and they have been pushed back by Russian, let's take out sometime to pray for Ukraine.

[Betwrong]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
~

A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.

Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

I think that's the main problem: he wants to be in power always, till the end of days, this demented idiot. And people around him, I mean, the inner circle, they don't mind because they have billions of US dollars for their loyalty.

~ let's take out sometime to pray for Ukraine.

Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.

[og kush420]

Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.

I hope the world will restore peace once again. There is a dire need for the war lord and thing what they have done to the world. They have changed the face of map - It is now noticed that people don't die natural death, they die in war and attacks. This remind us of the days of the stone ages where the war lord use to build tower of skill, same thing is happening now

[BADecker]

Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.

I hope the world will restore peace once again. There is a dire need for the war lord and thing what they have done to the world. They have changed the face of map - It is now noticed that people don't die natural death, they die in war and attacks. This remind us of the days of the stone ages where the war lord use to build tower of skill, same thing is happening now

Back at the time of Genghis Khan, the Russian lands were ruled by the Tatars. The whole Northern Hemisphere was influenced by them, and the northern lands into Canada were ruled by them. Genghis Khan and his hordes broke them up and brought them under his rule. All they want is to get back to their former power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/who-are-the-tartar-people.html

[og kush420]

Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

These rumors have been going on for so long, that it's starting to sound like some sort of FSB fairy tale designed to make people think "hey, the guy is ill, it's not his fault that things are going bad", or "just wait a little bit more, he's gonna croak soon and everything will be fine".

I'll believe it when he's buried (or pickled next to Lenin).

Enough damage has been done to the Ukraine - and so much will happen in the coming days.
Lots and lots of damage has been done to the EU as well but Russia is still not convinced to do what the other countries want to do for them. Maybe USA thinks that Russia is Pakistan - which will do as directed.

[BADecker]

Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..


I suspect that Russia sees the weakness that is Ukraine, and is letting its new recruits practice on Ukrainian soil. I mean, these new kids need to get their feet wet a little before they can go on to full scale war.

[NotATether]

Russia has used it's full force against Ukraine, it is just completely incompetent and showed how its military is definitely not superpower status. The Russian air force only had success in places like Syria because they were fighting rebels, stuck in a civil war without an organized government. Russia has shown they are no match for even a semi competent military and that truly is pathetic. The military in Russia was run by corruption, just like every other part of the country, and they never thought that one day they might actually have to utilize the equipment where they skimmed that money. It is crazy how badly trained they are and there is a distinct lack of communication even between troops 20 meters apart.

Did you miss the part where they landed paratroops next to Kiev and had to retreat because they cannot control the air space? You seem oblivious to so much.

It's basically USSR vs Finland 2.0 (c.f. WWII)

No fighting morale (at that time, it was because most of the officers were purged by Stalin, I'm not sure if something similar happened in recent years inside Russia).

That basically means even if you fight numerically smaller amount of troops, your own troops can't efficiently co-ordinate their tactics and as a result get quashed individually by the highly alert and spirited Ukrainians.

Also:

Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.

[og kush420]

Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.

While EU stood up to support Ukraine. And Then the countries which stayed neutral. Sri lanka and Pakistan. You can see the political instability and the crisis going on there. The USA and EU wanted all the world to do what they wanted. Are they going to help these countries now which are going through economic instability? Because of Russia and Ukraine war.

[BADecker]

Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.

While EU stood up to support Ukraine. And Then the countries which stayed neutral. Sri lanka and Pakistan. You can see the political instability and the crisis going on there. The USA and EU wanted all the world to do what they wanted. Are they going to help these countries now which are going through economic instability? Because of Russia and Ukraine war.

Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.