Gambling addiction causing victim to scam his family

[judeafante]

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

It's a typical story of a compulsive gambler, they will do everything to keep on playing they are blinded by their own reasoning this is not new in our country compulsive gamblers are robbing their companies and their family just to continue playing.

And casinos are like that even if you want to stop they will keep sending you promotions so you can come back if you have a weak control you will fall into this, both have mistakes but the gambler has more liabilities than the casinos.

[1714646709]

1714646709

[1714646709]

1714646709

[Uang_kartal]

who doesn't care about a sweet offer? but promotions like this openly exaggerate, also the company has a slightly different term of service, maybe.
I believe that the man was carried away by an emotional mission that arose from his own impulses and desires. The casual gambler will probably see the value they get, not in the things that make the game fun.
and when he sees something different (this) from other gambling companies, and maybe the company politely declines.
as far as i know there is gambling which they facilitate well. From opening or closing an account, without being suspended or for any reason.if you say between right and who is wrong it can't be separated from offer and acceptance, if the man chooses the better one, the possibility will be minimized.
I personally prefer to research first on this forum any form of gambling before deciding to create an account at a particular gambling company.

[Poker Player]

As for the loss suffered, the one at fault is the casino for not respecting the player's self-exclusion, although the player is also at fault for having scammed money to a relative to gamble it away. There was also a case in the forum of someone who complained because he had self-excluded himself from a room and they kept contacting him. And many other cases as Hydrogen comments. Responsible gambling options are there for a reason and they have to be respected because there are people who are completely ruined by self-control problems.

[Lida93]

They've learned it from the best casinos with self exclusion services but kept sending emails. The power of email + the $50 free bet made Boyle Sports very successful.

Going through the story from the OP am not sure the man's conviction to stop gambling was a strong determined one. I guess it's one of these normal gamblers expression of stopping from playing gambling especially when they have had their worst loss only to see them back the next day.

On the other hand Boyle sport was just doing normal legit gambling business, by crediting his account with the said amount of dollars, every other casino does that as a way to promoting their company. So the man should be blame for not having a locus of control towards his gambling lifestyle.

And come to think of it, he's said to be an addicted alcoholic, so am not sure all the money went into gambling, alcohol must have taking a sum too. So should the alcohol (brewery) company be said to be blamed too? No!

[Wexnident]

It's two different instances here really, a scam attempt that was successful, and a gambler that can't leave gambling. Both of which are fully his fault imo. And it's nothing really complicated, he scammed his family member to gamble, that's it. Using the fact that the casino kept sending him free $50 to bet isn't really an excuse to scam someone really. The gambling part is another story though, and I'd have to admit the casino is the one at fault there, although the gambler themselves can't really be completely free of blame still. Kinda odd really how closing your account nets you a free $50, doesn't that mean it can be exploited a number of times?

[michellee]

They've learned it from the best casinos with self exclusion services but kept sending emails. The power of email + the $50 free bet made Boyle Sports very successful.

Its not enough to lose all his money but he scammed his relatives.  The addiction is really that strong to him that the crimes you think only in the movies will happen like impersonating someone seems easy for him.

when you're too deep with your addiction, i believe you will do things that are out of logic anymore. the reasoning is out of context as you want to fulfill your gambling desires. i guess, this situation is not by any means the first and definitely not the last. as long as gambling industry exists, there will be individuals that will go beyond their normal actions just to feed their impulses.

It will happen to a person who is addicted to something and will do anything to get what he wants. And related to gambling where one must have money to start gambling, it will make people who are addicted to gambling have to think hard about how they can have money to continue gambling. And cheating other family members to get money is not a new thing that happens in society because it has often been experienced by them. Every family must pay attention to this so that they always look after their family members and help them if they have problems with gambling addiction.

[noorman0]

-snip-
The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time,

If a person has a desire to get out of addiction, he should take serious steps as much as possible for some time to avoid gambling at all. This includes unsubscribing to notifications and disabling emails to a casino that could allow them to view gambling content and promotions (and possibly sports news on which he normally makes bets).

[davis196]

Man, I've heard more awful horror stories about gambling addiction.
In my country, a gambling addict killed his girlfriend, because she found out that he is stealing money from her, in order to gamble.
He cut her body into pieces and tried to deceive the police, but the police caught him. I understand that he was an addict, but what kind of sociopathic monster would kill own girlfriend, just because she found out that he was stealing money from her.
Many gambling and drug addicts had stolen money from their friends and families. I don't know who to blame in that case. The addicts? The gambling industry? Their friends and families, for not helping them fight their addiction? I guess that we have to put the blame on everyone.

[skarais]

Man, I've heard more awful horror stories about gambling addiction.
In my country, a gambling addict killed his girlfriend, because she found out that he is stealing money from her, in order to gamble.
He cut her body into pieces and tried to deceive the police, but the police caught him. I understand that he was an addict, but what kind of sociopathic monster would kill own girlfriend, just because she found out that he was stealing money from her.
Many gambling and drug addicts had stolen money from their friends and families. I don't know who to blame in that case. The addicts? The gambling industry? Their friends and families, for not helping them fight their addiction? I guess that we have to put the blame on everyone.

We can't blame a knife for slicing our hands while peeling an apple, it's our fault for not using it carefully. In my opinion, the casino strategy to get money from gamblers is one thing that cannot be blamed, everyone can ignore the invitation and can even easily block it. So I think it's the gambler's fault why he can't control his urge to gamble and spend all his money.

Be a responsible gambler, isn't that a warning that every gambler keeps reminding?

[acroman08]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

I agree both of them are in the wrong and both of them should be held accountable for what happened.

reading that the sportsbook sent him 50 euros every time the gambler tried to close his account only shows that they don't want him to stop gambling even if the guy is trying. sportsbooks/casinos that operate like that are scums and their license should be revoked and confiscated. as for the gambler who scammed his family, that is entirely his fault, he could have gotten the money from other means but he decided to scam his family.

[pakhitheboss]

I do not think the gambling website is in fault here. When you register you are asked to accept the terms and conditions, that is where they mention that by accepting the t&c you are okay to receive promotional mails. Some website display the same information seperately. I am sure the gambler in question has opted for it and that is why he was sent the $50 as a come back bonus. Some physical casinos also do the same by asking gamblers to fill a questionnaire.

If the gambler wanted to quit gambling he should have unsubscribed from the email list of the casino. This would have prevented them from sending promotional emails. Therefore blaming the email is not correct in this scenario.

[Oasisman]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

You're definitely correct. Though the most responsible for what happened is the man who got addicted to gambling. While fueling up his addiction was also wrong.
Gambling websites should've known better who gets addicted and whos not by looking at their gambling activities.
Gambling companies should have a team who will handle such cases. Though not required, but at least this could be an extra mile of service for any gambling companies instead og giving out free betting amount.

[Fundamentals Of]

Is there a policy which doesn't allow marketing emails like O’Connell received? I think it is unfair for any company to just use their clients' emails for their promotion spams. It would be understandable if O’Connell himself chose to allow Boyle Sports for any bonus offers, newsletter, and updates. But it would be a big question if O’Connell didn't have the option to shut off all communications coming from Boyle Sports. It might even be a violation of privacy if these emails continue to flood O’Connell even if he already deactivated his gambling account.

[swogerino]

I have to say that is still his fault and he should not blame the gambling company sending him emails with bonuses and other related things,he knows that there is the "unsubscribe" button to not receive such emails and if he was truly determined to quit he should have also blocked all emails from gambling related companies.I think deep down in him he was waiting for this type of email and he was thinking,this is it,now I am going to win and recover all the lost money which led to this situation.

[Rruchi man]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?

No one said that quiting an addiction will not come without a temptation to continue. I can't blame Boyle sports for wanting to keep their customer. When you make a decision to quit, it has to be a firm decision and as much as possible do away or block anything that can make you look back on your decision. A user with a real intention to quit gambling will go an extra mile to ensure that his goals are achieved, this involves- Blocking emails that could trigger the urge, avoiding friends that you gamble with or even staying away from watching the sport activity you gamble on for a while. You must do what you must to achieve your goal. It is immature to cast blame on someone for tempting you to do something when the you were not held at gunpoint. Accepting that you are in charge of your actions is a good start to overcoming an addiction.

[aioc]

I have to say that is still his fault and he should not blame the gambling company sending him emails with bonuses and other related things,he knows that there is the "unsubscribe" button to not receive such emails and if he was truly determined to quit he should have also blocked all emails from gambling related companies.I think deep down in him he was waiting for this type of email and he was thinking,this is it,now I am going to win and recover all the lost money which led to this situation.

Casinos know the physiology or the mindset of gamblers, those who are playing a huge amount of money are likely to say no to promotions, they will always go for the bait and every time big spenders in gambling get back to playing they will pay huge amount of money and that's a huge profit for casinos, not all casinos are like this but those who are doing this are casinos that get a lot of complaints because in the first place their exclusion or unsubscribe button should be updated.

[arwin100]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?

No one said that quiting an addiction will not come without a temptation to continue. I can't blame Boyle sports for wanting to keep their customer. When you make a decision to quit, it has to be a firm decision and as much as possible do away or block anything that can make you look back on your decision. A user with a real intention to quit gambling will go an extra mile to ensure that his goals are achieved, this involves- Blocking emails that could trigger the urge, avoiding friends that you gamble with or even staying away from watching the sport activity you gamble on for a while. You must do what you must to achieve your goal. It is immature to cast blame on someone for tempting you to do something when the you were not held at gunpoint. Accepting that you are in charge of your actions is a good start to overcoming an addiction.

Its hard to quit on gambling if you are in the peak of keeping on wanting it for sure those what he encounter will just be ignore and in the next day he will keep betting. He needs professional help to overcome this addiction also the family support is really needed because if he just do it for his self for sure nothing happens especially if he still have the app or the site bookmarked or installed on his desktop or he may still have an access to those sites.

[Cookdata]

What do you think who was in the wrong ?

Nothing went wrong, the problem is that the guy who defrauded his family is a serial gambler and has lost his sense for money, and Boyle Sports was using their marketing system to deceive him.
To be honest, gambling houses are in business to make a profit, no one wants to lose money, so when one of their players stops playing, they decide to give him a bonus to entice him back. This is a common practice among gambling platforms, but instead of quitting, he appears to prefer gambling to see his family happy.

Just like on my last birthday, several sportsbooks offered me a bonus only to enjoy my day because they noticed I didn't come and play like I used to, I didn't use the bonus, he should have declined the bonus offered.

[Boristhecat]

Here is the article: https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/courtandcrime/arid-40875731.html
Apparently Boyle Sports manipulated a man is a very sad way where he ended up loosing all the money he scammed from a family member. The man had probelms with Gambling and he tried to stop by closing the account on the website and at the end of the day they saw him stopping but kept sending him mails and at the same time, they apparently sent him a 50$ free betting which at the end ending up to be awful for him since he started it again and ended up loosing all the fortune. The whole things is extremely complex like Some Sherlock Holmes story. The person was not infact gullible since to fuel his gambling addiction he scammed his family member and then went to court and pleaded guilty as well blamed it all on the Boyle Sports.
What do you think who was in the wrong ?
I think both the bettor and the Boyle Sports were in the wrong.

I do not see anything complicated in this story. This man is a scammer and he is only trying to shift his blame to others. It will be funny if the court finds that Boyle Sports is also guilty - then I expect a wave of similar lawsuits from idiots who received "undesirable" advertising about how good a Porsche car is, went and robbed a bank, or after receiving an advertisement about how good it is to travel the world, they went robbed store.

[KTChampions]

Here the gambler is wrong. As a means of promotion gambling platforms used to give free betting bonuses. If this bonus have been given knowing that the user is gonna end gambling, then the gambling platform too is wrong. Myself too have similar experience playing with bonus when I was in long break from gambling, and from my experience it is always good to have self control.

It is interesting on the basis of what law the casino should think about the “worldview” of its client. If he did not want to receive any information from the casino, then he should have closed the opportunity to receive letters from them (black list, just do not read them, etc. - many possibilities), but blame someone for the fact that because of them he committed a crime extremely strange to me.